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Ray Edwards headed to Atlanta

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The Falcons reportedly went aggressively after Charles Johnson, but watched him return to the Panthers.

So they’ve just signed the next best pass rusher left on the market.

Jay Glazer of FOX reports that the Falcons have agreed to terms with Ray Edwards on a five-year deal.  There were earlier indications that Atlanta dropped out of the bidding for the former Vikings defensive end, but the market for him didn’t materialize as expected.

We’re guessing that his price had to come down, and ultimately Atlanta felt comfortable with the value.   The team cut Michael Jenkins and Jamaal Anderson Friday morning to help make room.

This is a move made out of necessity for Atlanta.  John Abraham isn’t getting any younger, and the team just didn’t feel it had enough of a pass rusher outside of Abraham.

UPDATE: Florio got the numbers.  Edwards will get $11.5 guaranteed, and $30 million over five years.  That’s pretty reasonable compared to other contracts this offseason.  (And less than half the money Johnson got.)

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  1. skoobyfl says: Jul 29, 2011 1:25 PM

    Ray is good man, congratulations buddy.

  2. drop703 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:27 PM

    Good grab…it’s gonna be a dogfight for 1st in the South

  3. AlanSaysYo says: Jul 29, 2011 1:27 PM

    Does Ray Edwards even register without the benefit of playing on the Vikings’ line?

  4. berniemadoffsides says: Jul 29, 2011 1:27 PM

    Waste ‘o money. I agree with the Julio Jones move back in April, but this is a terrible, terrible decision.

  5. carlgerbschmidt says: Jul 29, 2011 1:28 PM

    I guess it is time to reset the “Ray Edwards Sack Tracker” to zero….and then leave it there.

  6. dirtybirdsbchamps says: Jul 29, 2011 1:29 PM

    Oh yea…we just got way better. TD is the MAN. Go Dirty Birds

  7. roddytorock84 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:29 PM

    Better than what atl had.

  8. vikingdoode says: Jul 29, 2011 1:30 PM

    Over rated Ray Edwards….well see how well you do. Stuggled to get sacks when Jarred Allen was double teamed. Good player but not big FA money good.

  9. heyguru1969 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:30 PM

    Good move overall. Atlanta’s D doesn’t need to be great with the points they’re going to score. They just need to keep the opponents at 25 or under and they’ll have a big season. None of those 40+ blowups like in the playoffs.

  10. eaglesfootballfan says: Jul 29, 2011 1:31 PM

    Ray Edwards is okay. He is very inconsistent but an upgrade over what they had.

  11. vahawker says: Jul 29, 2011 1:31 PM

    Guess we’ll see how much of his play was his talent and how much was having Jared Allen and the Williams wall next to him.

  12. iamthorny says: Jul 29, 2011 1:31 PM

    Will he predict he’ll break the NFL sack record, before or after he steps off the plane in Atlanta?

  13. bakedkitten says: Jul 29, 2011 1:31 PM

    I think Edwards will be a good fit in Atlanta.

  14. steel6times says: Jul 29, 2011 1:33 PM

    Anyone that didn’t see this coming? Ok good. 6 going on 7

  15. scubasteve4930 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:33 PM

    oooohhh boy. Bad news for the rest of the NFC South. Im glad Josh Freeman can run like he does!

  16. whitetail28 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:34 PM

    Wow. Good move Atlanta. You guys will like Ray Edwards. A solid player

  17. eagleempire says: Jul 29, 2011 1:35 PM

    He will be a bust….all he cared about was getting paid. I am happy the Eagles didn’t sign him. The more and more he talked, the less & less I wanted him on the the Eagles.

  18. andyreidisfat says: Jul 29, 2011 1:35 PM

    This either great or horrible. If Edwards is on his way up and getting set to become 10-15 sack a year guy then atlanta just jumped to the top of the NFC south.

    If Edwards is a guy who only got to the 8-9 sacks because of who he played with in Minn. then Atlanta is in big trouble.

    I still think Atlanta needs some CB help as i think grimes and Robinson are both slightly overrated. And i also think they made a huge mistake with the draft day trade for the WR. Not that i think the guy can’t play I just don’t think he was worth the loss of the picks and players they could have had.

    That all being said I am a big Matt Ryan guy cu he is a local philly guy and would like to see him do well so i hope all works out except when they play the Eagles.

  19. ampking101 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:37 PM

    Finally we pick up a DE that can train with Abraham to fully flesh him out. This is an awesome day to be a Falcon. Now we just need to get a FS to step in for Decoud. I’m telling you I am happy with what the Falcons are doing.

  20. aschwartz2011 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:38 PM

    Can we get some details on the Koening signing from ATL to Tampa…Yahoo sports is reporting 19.5 million over 6 years…please tell me that is wrong, or an inflated contract…It doesn’t seem to fit the plan…

  21. chuckyd317 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:38 PM

    Solid?? He had J. Allen, Pat and Kevin Williams next to him for 2 years and managed to have ok seasons… He has no help in Atlanta…

  22. rusty81 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:38 PM

    average DE at the very best. problem with ray edwards is he thinks he is the very best.

  23. sterling7 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:39 PM

    As a lifelong Minnesota Viking diehard my only question is……..how much did Ray Edwards have to pay Atlanta to take him!!

  24. joshvitale says: Jul 29, 2011 1:39 PM

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/28/post-lockout-acquisitions/

  25. mercury2910 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:39 PM

    Great piece to the puzzle for Atlanta. But it’s up to Matt Ryan’s maturation process for how far they can go.

  26. purpleguy says: Jul 29, 2011 1:41 PM

    Edwards is better against the run than the pass, is good for one stupid penalty a game, and is guaranteed to say one stupid thing a month, as well as being the “unamed player source” trashing other players and the team behind their backs. Atlanta, he’s an okay NFL DE with the brain of a pea — as long as you didn’t pay too much and know that going into the season, you’ll be fine.

  27. chc4 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:41 PM

    5 yrs $30 mill with $11 mill guaranteed. Not a ton of money. Actually a pretty good deal for ATL given Charles Johnson got $30 mill guaranteed and he only started 1 season.

  28. ididntsaythat says: Jul 29, 2011 1:42 PM

    If this guy is so good, why didnt he have more sack than Jared Allen who was always double and triple teamed??

  29. fwippel says: Jul 29, 2011 1:43 PM

    Not really sure what to make of Edwards. He’s a good DE, but not great. With him not playing across from Jared Allen and next to Kevin Williams, one wonders just how he’ll play this year.

    Edwards has always had a bit of an attitude. Now that he’s gotten his big payday, it’ll be interesting to see if he stays motivated and keeps improving.

  30. hollerdog says: Jul 29, 2011 1:43 PM

    and all the saints fans said? EFF!…. including myself. Looks like the NO VS atl rivalry is going to be a little better this year again… Congrats atlanta fans, gonna make it even sweeter when we beat yall this yr lol

  31. crabboil says: Jul 29, 2011 1:47 PM

    The Saints offensive line just said, “meh…”

  32. ThatGuy says: Jul 29, 2011 1:47 PM

    Atlanta fans are going to be in for a surprise if they are expecting him to be a huge contributer. He hasn’t seen a double team in years and only produced average stats playing next to pro bowlers. Good luck to ya, but Atlanta will regret that sigining

  33. edsbay says: Jul 29, 2011 1:50 PM

    Funny thing is…with him as a pass rusher….he still cant’ stop Aaron Rodgers slicing and dicing both Minnesotas and Atlantas defense.

    GO PACK GO!

  34. sullybleedsgreen says: Jul 29, 2011 1:50 PM

    ESPN reporting a 5 year $30 mil deal. Not too bad. $6 mil a year. As an Eagles fan I’d rather have Ray Edwars than Jason Babin. Besides Charles Johnson there wasn’t much too choose from if a team needed a pass rusher this offseason. Ray Edwards atleast was consistent. Jason Babin on the other hand only had one season with more than 5 sacks.

  35. funkydunkleman says: Jul 29, 2011 1:51 PM

    Atlanta will regret this signing. When you have Williams, Williams, and Allen constantly getting doubled, you think he would be reaping the rewards, but his flashes of greatness were few and far between.

    When there would be games against a backup or mediocre LT, you’d think he was gonna have a huge day, and he’d end up with zero sacks. I think most of his big plays came when Allen had broken past the RT, and the QB ran right towards Edwards.

  36. paulitik74 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:52 PM

    TD got a great deal $3o million, $11 million guaranteed. I was worried he was going to be way overpriced after Carolina blew their wad on a one year wonder.

    Ray is still young, he’s got a lot of great football ahead of him. I can’t wait to see him knock that turd off Drew Brees’ face.

  37. phillipian says: Jul 29, 2011 1:53 PM

    Falcons just signed a 26yr old who averaged 8 sacks/yr for last two years and plays the run well.

    They signed him for 5yrs and $30million with $11million guaranteed – very good price.

    Falcons can still go into marketplace next year and go for another top D-End since they got such a good deal on Edwards. He is a #2 DE in this league but one of the best #2’s out there.

    John Abraham is still a legit #1. Abraham/Edwards is a very good pass-rushing combo. Good Job Dimitroff

    Falcons not overpaying for anybody – he costs 1/2 of what the lowly Panthers paid for Charles Johnson – 1/2!!!!!

  38. sterling7 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:54 PM

    Mediocrity at it’s finest!

  39. dcviking says: Jul 29, 2011 1:55 PM

    It will be interesting to see how motivated he is now that he’s got his contract.

    I get the feeling the answer will be “not very”…

    Not really that sad to see him leave Minny, but by the same token, I have no confidence in B-Rob or Griffen.

  40. coleman121280 says: Jul 29, 2011 1:55 PM

    AWESOME!!!

    Now all we need to do is get the other unamed player source “Bernard Berrian” and the vikings can flush out the rest of the bad attitude players.

    My money say’s Brian Robison out play’s every year from here on out!!!

  41. popwarner says: Jul 29, 2011 1:59 PM

    It took longer then expected for this to be announced and the decision to be made.

    Perhaps because the Falcons had never had to write into a contract the demands from Ray:

    DEMAND #1
    – My line mates must be double-teamed on every play or there is no guarantee of a sack.

    DEMAND #2:
    – See Demand #1.

    Big Risk/Big Reward for Atl. Time will tell.

  42. rolltide510 says: Jul 29, 2011 2:00 PM

    I love people who feel that the left defensive end benefits from attention being paid to the right defensive end. Because the right tackle typically pulls to the other side or something? Are ya’ll literally retarded?

  43. oldbyrd says: Jul 29, 2011 2:00 PM

    Awesome, a Ray of hope for the Falcons

  44. ugaboogaloo says: Jul 29, 2011 2:02 PM

    Not a bad deal for the Falcons. Only $11 million guaranteed to this guy. He’s got every incentive to play up to the level of his mouth.

  45. drop703 says: Jul 29, 2011 2:03 PM

    He was the second best rusher in the class behind Charles Johnson. I think he has a better year than Babin with the Eagles. Regardless, this really helps the Falcons who needed this position filled.

  46. falconsfan says: Jul 29, 2011 2:06 PM

    With the rotation the the Falcons run on their D-Line Ray should have a great season. The Vikings have a nice line but so do the Falcons, they’re just a lot younger but I have a feeling that Ray will have a good time playing along side Abraham/ Jerry/Babineaux/Peters/Davis and Biermann.

    Brees, Freeman, Rodgers and Newton will have to think twice before moving around too much in the pocket this year.

  47. watermelon1 says: Jul 29, 2011 2:07 PM

    Really can’t understand how Baltimore didn’t sign this guy.

    Everyone says he only produced because he was playing with Jared Allen. Well… he’d get to play on the opposite side from Terrell Suggs. With Haloti Ngata in the middle of them…

    The Ravens are letting some really good players go to other teams, and they are going for pretty reasonable contracts.

    Are they saving up to pay Brett Favre midway through the season when Flacco hits his annual wall?

  48. tombradyswig says: Jul 29, 2011 2:16 PM

    sullybleedsgreen says: Jul 29, 2011 1:50 PM

    ESPN reporting a 5 year $30 mil deal. Not too bad. $6 mil a year. As an Eagles fan I’d rather have Ray Edwars than Jason Babin. Besides Charles Johnson there wasn’t much too choose from if a team needed a pass rusher this offseason. Ray Edwards atleast was consistent. Jason Babin on the other hand only had one season with more than 5 sacks.

    Yeah, one season with over 5 sacks, how about 12.5 last seas!!!!!!
    Babin will flourish under Washburn!!

    BELIEVE MAN, BELIEVE!!!!!!

  49. tlippert says: Jul 29, 2011 2:24 PM

    Huge Viking fan here. Everyone keeps saying he should have put up monster numbers on the vikes playing across from JA, well, he put up good numbers. Jared Allen is not that great anyways, he feasts on the weaker tackles and makes a season’s worth of sacks (10-12) in 4 games, against the best, he gets overpowered way too often. And all anyone looks at in DE’s is sacks.

    The fact is Edwards is a very solid all-around end. He is far better against the run than Jared Allen and still manages to put up 8 sacks a year and get countless hurries. (Full disclosure: I’ll still take JA over Edwards anyday)

    I think he got exactly what he is worth. In fact i’d rather have him with the purple than Robison who we gave 3 yrs and 14 MM for an undersized backup end.

  50. etc4779 says: Jul 29, 2011 2:30 PM

    We have another big signing that will be announced tomorrow…stay tuned.

  51. fground says: Jul 29, 2011 2:30 PM

    I think the Vikings made a big mistake not locking this guy up. People forget how young Edwards is (26 next year). Here’s a list of the top
    ten sackers of all time plus Ray Edwards and the sacks they accumulated by
    25 years of age.

    Smith,B 44.5
    Dent,R 37.5
    White, R 31
    Edwards 29.5
    Oneil, L 29
    Taylor, L 28
    Randle 22
    Strahan 18
    Taylor, J 16.5
    Greene, K 13.5
    Doleman 3.5

  52. cowartsh says: Jul 29, 2011 2:34 PM

    To all the people talking about jared Allen being doubled which made edwards better do you think john abraham doesnt get doubled? Also babineaux is a very underated pass rusher from the tackle position. Is edwards elite? no but he’s an upgrade and at only 11.5 million guaranteed if he sucks we cut him and dont lose much

  53. brewdogg says: Jul 29, 2011 2:36 PM

    You’re welcome to him. He’s a good 3-down end, and will play both the run and pass adequately, and even give you flashes of dominance, but there has always just been something a little off about him, going back to college even. You’ll see what I mean. You will support him as long as he is with your team, and you will have good ground to stand on, but when he gets replaced, something inside of you will sigh with relief.

  54. vikesfan4life says: Jul 29, 2011 2:40 PM

    As a Vikings fan I’m glad that he’s gone. His pi$$ poor attitude and his lack of production got old around here. As mentioned earlier he couldn’t flourish in a line that constantly allowed for him to have 1-1 on the outside. Now he is going to the ATL where their D-Line doesn’t have near the talent that the Vikings line did/does. Good luck with that overrated SOB.

  55. 13xworldchamps says: Jul 29, 2011 2:45 PM

    If this guy is so good, why didnt he have more sack than Jared Allen who was always double and triple teamed??

    —————————————————–

    this great D line of the vikings is a myth, maybe two years ago, but not any more…..Allen is declining, Chad Clifton played him straight up almost every snap in the two games last year and Allen had zero sacks. Fat Williams is old and well fat, he is a non factor. Kevin Williams is going to miss 4 games and is on the decline.

    Your D is in for a long year………….

  56. woodyg says: Jul 29, 2011 2:46 PM

    edsbay says:
    Jul 29, 2011 1:50 PM
    Funny thing is…with him as a pass rusher….he still cant’ stop Aaron Rodgers slicing and dicing both Minnesotas and Atlantas defense.

    ____________

    Ain’t that the truth …….. It’s fun watching all these teams try to add players to bring them up to GB’s level …… GB put up 48 against Atlanta in the playoffs ….. Atlanta, now with Edwards, may be able to hold the Pack down to say …. 45 ….. LOL.

  57. tlippert says: Jul 29, 2011 2:47 PM

    @fground: ray edwards also got 5 years of stats in on those numbers. 30/5 = 6 sacks a year. just sayin…

  58. chc4 says: Jul 29, 2011 2:53 PM

    The Packers barely made the playoffs and caught fire at the right time. I didn’t realize GB fans were so arrogant and obnoxious. Thought that was mostly reserved for Cowboys, Eagles and Jets yahoos.

  59. frozengolf says: Jul 29, 2011 3:06 PM

    Ray Edwards is a JOKE!!! This is the guy who was singled teamed every play (because of pro bowler Allen and Williams) and who couldn’t break 10 sacks? If this guy were even an average DE, he would have gotten 12-14 sacks each of the last 2 yeras, but he didn’t even come close.

  60. mediasloppy says: Jul 29, 2011 3:07 PM

    Big Play Ray will fit in just fine. Although he doesn’t live up to his own hype, he’ll get the job done…

  61. kennyrogerschicken says: Jul 29, 2011 3:09 PM

    chc4 –

    The Packers lost their division by a game and made the playoffs – they didn’t go 7-9 and barely get in. I’m surprised by the arrogance of fans of other teams in trying to diminish the Packers’ Super Bowl season. Then again, jealousy breeds contempt. And I’m sure fans of other teams, besides the ones you listed, would never ever think of being arrogant or obnoxious, right?

    It’s the NFL – every team has moron fans. If it hurts your feelings, maybe you should watch golf instead.

  62. simplesimon1 says: Jul 29, 2011 3:12 PM

    Funny….All the Vikings fans couldn’t fight hard enough to support the guy when he was still a Viking and I and others said he was over rated at the end of last year. Now, those same people are in here saying just that. Let me guess….You all thought Donovan McNabb sucked too until about 2 days ago….LOL

    Whether you like it or not, you’re losing your team. You better sign some big time free agents or you might be the next 0-16 team in about 5 months from now.

  63. bri55mn says: Jul 29, 2011 3:17 PM

    Ray Edwards is the best DE in the NFL. Just ask him, he’ll tell ya! Sorry ATL but that’s gonna be a bust….

  64. coleman121280 says: Jul 29, 2011 3:26 PM

    Abraham/ Jerry/Babineaux/Peters/Davis and Biermann.

    Who???

  65. chc4 says: Jul 29, 2011 3:27 PM

    kennyrogerschicken — the way Packers fans have beat their chests you would think they were 15-1 last year. They aren’t invincible though they seem to think so. They were so good last year that they lost 6 games…. including one to Atlanta. Obviously they stepped up big in January which is great. But let’s not make them out to be the 49ers of the ’80s. It’s called arrogance.

  66. wtfru2 says: Jul 29, 2011 3:28 PM

    Now Brian Robison gets his chance to shine!

  67. coleman121280 says: Jul 29, 2011 3:32 PM

    Whether you like it or not, you’re losing your team. You better sign some big time free agents or you might be the next 0-16 team in about 5 months from now.

    ======================================

    Where do you people come from???

  68. stellarperformance says: Jul 29, 2011 3:32 PM

    The whole back-and-forth GB vs MN attacks are getting tiresome. The fact is, historically speaking, regardless of whether one team or the other had a spectacular prior season, these two teams bust nuts against each other every time they play. And even though I bleed green and gold, I also know that the possibility of a SuperBowl hangover is very real, not unprecedented, and always possible. Combine that with the fact that every year there are teams that are given premature burials before the season begins and they end up surprising everybody. I am not taking the Vikings lightly and nobody else should either. Let’s get this season started and prove it on the field. Once the first ball is kicked in the first game, last year becomes last year. Good luck to both teams. I’m out.

  69. shadowgm1 says: Jul 29, 2011 3:34 PM

    @ vikingdoode –

    “Over rated Ray Edwards….well see how well you do. Stuggled to get sacks when Jarred Allen was double teamed. Good player but not big FA money good.”

    I always love to hear some of the Nordic faithful talk about Allen as if he is a threat. To me, the guy is easy: wheel around and keep him outside (which ironically is his only move) and if even necessary use a back to chip or stay in the pocket and keep him outside. Dominating below average RT’s by beating them around the edge isn’t show-stopping. Now, if you refer to the Williams boys (especially Kevin), then I will grant that as being a double team worthy of note. He consistently gets a C-G double team, and in some cases a G-T double team which frees Allen for a straight line sack and pads his stats. Edwards faces solid LT’s weekly and gets his job done. He was a main reason Minnesota was able to have some semblance of a run defense, he was strong and solid with the ability to make a rush now and again. I wouldn’t be so quick to say it’s not a big deal, and Vikes fans will see that rather quickly this season. Good move by the Falcons, and another message that Minnesota is becoming somewhere no one wants to be.

  70. starderup says: Jul 29, 2011 3:46 PM

    I still have a soft spot in my heart for the Packers going back to the Bart Starr days, and they destroyed my team in the first round of the playoffs in an away game, but when they beat the Squealers in the SB, they made up for it.
    Still, we now have a DE that is very familiar with the cheeseheads. I’m happy with the upgrade from Jamal Anderson, and especially at the bargain price.

  71. dcviking says: Jul 29, 2011 3:49 PM

    shadowgm1 says: Jul 29, 2011 3:34 PM

    @ vikingdoode –

    “Over rated Ray Edwards….well see how well you do. Stuggled to get sacks when Jarred Allen was double teamed. Good player but not big FA money good.”

    I always love to hear some of the Nordic faithful talk about Allen as if he is a threat. To me, the guy is easy: wheel around and keep him outside (which ironically is his only move) and if even necessary use a back to chip or stay in the pocket and keep him outside. Dominating below average RT’s by beating them around the edge isn’t show-stopping. Now, if you refer to the Williams boys (especially Kevin), then I will grant that as being a double team worthy of note. He consistently gets a C-G double team, and in some cases a G-T double team which frees Allen for a straight line sack and pads his stats. Edwards faces solid LT’s weekly and gets his job done. He was a main reason Minnesota was able to have some semblance of a run defense, he was strong and solid with the ability to make a rush now and again. I wouldn’t be so quick to say it’s not a big deal, and Vikes fans will see that rather quickly this season. Good move by the Falcons, and another message that Minnesota is becoming somewhere no one wants to be.

    ————————————

    Stellar breakdown genius, except for the following:

    Allen is the RDE so he’s going against Left Tackles not Right tackles, and Edwards is (was) the LDE so he was going against (you guessed it) Right tackles.

    Yes, Allen did next to nothing last year — I do agree with that.

    Also, in the past fews years, Minnesota has done outstanding against the run (as opposed to having ‘some semblance’ of a run defense). This was primarily due to Pat and Kevin — whose effectiveness (as others have noted) is also in decline.

    Edwards is a decent player in flashes, but he’s a got a bad attitude and going to the Falcons has strictly to do with cash.

    BTW – do you even know who will be taking Edwards spot and what he did last year (without going to Google)?

    Next time, ask your mom or dad to read your post before you hit submit.

  72. coleman121280 says: Jul 29, 2011 3:50 PM

    shadowgm1 says:

    Edwards faces solid LT’s weekly and gets his job done.

    ====================================

    dude, Lazy Ed played the other side. Jared Allen was the one Dominating LT’s Gabroni…

    If my purple and Gold won a super bowl the last thing I’d be doing right now is posting of PFT B/c i’d be watching all my games that I DVR’d instead of giving it to anyone.

    It makes me wonder what you guys are really mad at as Pack Fans…

  73. woodyg says: Jul 29, 2011 4:06 PM

    Many pundits & NFL people ‘in the know’ believe the Pack may very well be the most improved team in the NFL in 2011 …….

    The Pack were due to dominate in 2011 no matter what happened in 2010 ……. The SB ‘V’ in 2010 was a gift because the rest of the NFL were sitting on their thumbs ……

    Face it & accept it ….. The Pack has yet to peak ….. It all starts on 9/8 with the initial thrashing of the Saints …….

    How sweet it is to be a PackFan in the 21st century …….

  74. icelovinbrotha215 says: Jul 29, 2011 4:08 PM

    And the Eagles couldn’t agree to that deal? Oh well…

  75. mediasloppy says: Jul 29, 2011 4:31 PM

    i don’t understand why the packers are even commenting on this thread…

  76. theoriginalcaptainmarvel says: Jul 29, 2011 4:36 PM

    Ray Edwards is an average DE, no better, no worse. Anyway…notice how Packer fans go onto any thread involving the Vikings and run-their-mouths about stuff that has nothing to do with the topic? Always bragging about how great they are…but they won’t even for a second acknowledge that they were lucky to even be in the playoffs last year. They lucked into a 3-way tiebreaker. And they lost the first game to the Vikings, except for 2 ADMITTED blown TD calls by the refs. And of course the Vikings beat them twice last year, both by blowout. Yet Packer fans rant and rant about how they are unbeatable.

  77. theoriginalcaptainmarvel says: Jul 29, 2011 4:38 PM

    …..I mean beat them twice ‘the year-before-last’…..

  78. shadowgm1 says: Jul 29, 2011 5:04 PM

    Oops, you guys called me on it. I was too caught up in my rant that Allen is not a threat that I switched their positions, I hope they don’t take my press credentials away for that. In any event, in my opinion the points I was making about Allen being a one move blowhard is spot on, as is the assessment that Kevin Williams provides openings for both rather than Allen. I have yet to see him try and go inside with any success. He’s overrated and an anchor at the team’s neck when it comes to retaining these players with any sort of compensation. I feel that Edwards was not flashy but got the job done. I’d like to see Robison do that.

    I actually am not mad at anything the Vikes have ever done, just that I am amused at the decisions they are making and the talent they are leaking, then proclaiming they will be big players in the free agent pool. Every year they let their solid depth escape while whiffing on big contract FA’s (Berrian, Allen come to mind ASAP). I really don’t care if anyone disagrees with that assessment, it should play itself out in the next couple of seasons.

  79. fallcoon says: Jul 29, 2011 5:11 PM

    I am glad Ray is outa Minny. Now he’s Atlanta’s problem with no sacks.

  80. Tom Melton says: Jul 29, 2011 5:17 PM

    Everyone saying that Ray Edwards isn’t going to get a sack, is John Abraham really that much worse than Jared Allen? He commands similar attention from offenses. And is Jonathan Babineaux vastly worse than Kevin Williams? He’s not on the same level, but he’s still good.

    My point is, it’s not like Edwards is coming here to be “the man” for us, at least not with Abe still here. With Babs, Jerry and Peters in the middle, plus Biermann and Sidbury in our DE rotation… we have a lot of talent up front. Just time to see if they all mesh together in their current roles. No reason Edwards can’t live up to this contract, it’s very affordable and reasonable. He got $10-20 million less than I expected him to overall. This was a great signing for the Falcons, especially at that price.

  81. fallcoon says: Jul 29, 2011 5:20 PM

    Edwards is a No Sack Machine with a big mouth. Good luck! I hope you get more out of him than we did.

  82. coleman121280 says: Jul 29, 2011 5:29 PM

    I once heard Lazy Ray say he was gonna get that sack record.

    He only wishes he could be a DOLEMAN#56

  83. bobnelsonjr says: Jul 29, 2011 6:11 PM

    The guy has been caught with steroids already.
    Hates authority figures especially if they are white.

    Can be counted on to say very inappropriate things at the worst time with alarming frequency.

    The Atlanta press/talk radio will have plenty of fun with his utterances and teammates will have to “explain” his remarks.

    Importing trouble is not the way to become a contender.

  84. brewdogg says: Jul 29, 2011 11:43 PM

    @shadowgm

    2 questions:

    1) Who was creating openings for Allen to collect the 43 sacks he got in his 4 years in KC?

    2) What “solid depth” has the team bled in the last few years? Taylor and Hicks? Wanted to start…. Birk? Yeah, you got that one. Udeze and James? Who have they lost the last few years that you want back?

  85. brewdogg says: Jul 30, 2011 12:28 AM

    woodyg says:
    Jul 29, 2011 4:06 PM
    Many pundits & NFL people ‘in the know’ believe the Pack may very well be the most improved team in the NFL in 2011 …….

    The Pack were due to dominate in 2011 no matter what happened in 2010 ……. The SB ‘V’ in 2010 was a gift because the rest of the NFL were sitting on their thumbs ……

    Face it & accept it ….. The Pack has yet to peak ….. It all starts on 9/8 with the initial thrashing of the Saints …….

    How sweet it is to be a PackFan in the 21st century …….
    —————————————-

    Where do I start……

    To begin with, 2 years from now, Woodson, Driver, and Clifton will be retired, and 3/4 of the core will be over 30. Yet to peak? Wishful thinking….

    How are they improved? The return of injured players? Tauscher and Barnett are already gone, and Jenkins is leaving too. I’ve read a lot of Packer fans saying that Starks should start over Grant anyway, so you can’t be talking about him….. Is Jones a signifigant upgrade over Zombo/Walden? Funny how much crowing we’ve heard over them….

    So what does that leave? Finley, and a bunch of players who have yet to play a down. So basically you are assuming great things from this year’s rookies and Neal and Burnett, and that is your argument? Have I got that right?

    So the improvement will come from whatever late-round pick steps into the LG job, Cobb replacing Jones, Burnett over Peprah, Neal over Jenkins, and Finley staying healthy. Of yeah, and the belief that certain players will get better, like Nelson (because most WRs make a big jump in their 4th season) and Shields (lots of players who couldn’t dedicate themselves to their craft enough to turn their natural abilities into a good WR manage to become good CBs).

    I think it’s safe to say we’ll see pretty much the same team we saw last year. But, of course, I’m not “in the know”……

  86. 22deuce says: Jul 30, 2011 12:37 AM

    not worth the money he thinks he is

    is only really good against the run

    only gets sacks vs TE’s when playing with 3 pro bowlers

    should be seen and not heard

  87. Canadianwetbasementsolutions.com says: Jul 30, 2011 2:23 AM

    Silly kids, leave the football talk to grown ups.

    John Abraham had more sacks then Allen 2 out of the last 3 years…WITHOUT two of the top 10 DT in the league… WITHOUT a pass rushing end to compliment him. Abraham had more sacks last year than any othe DE. The most sacks the DE opposite JA55 has had? Jamaal The Bust Anderson – 2, Kroy Biermann – 5 (the year JA55 was hurt, only 3 last year), Chauncey Davis – 4 (that was 3 years ago he has gotten one sack the last two years). So, our second best pass rusher got 3 sacks.

    Now, are you telling me that with a DE who is a better pass rusher than Allen and DT who are pretty good (but not as good as the Williams) that Edwards isn’t going to be able to get us at least 4 sacks?

    Yeah, I think so too. He is a huge leap above what ATL has had the last 5 years. Atlanta’s line is not as weak as the media would have you believe. They aren’t the Vikings line from 2-4 years ago, but they just got a whole lot better. This was the best fit for Edwards because he will benefit from having 3 very good players beside him…we aren’t asking him to be the man… we are just asking him to do exactly what he did in MN which was offer a small deterant for teams who double our JA.

  88. brewdogg says: Jul 30, 2011 3:27 AM

    @canadianwet-whatever…..

    I’m confused…. Are you saying that Edwards will be successful with Atlanta because they have more talent on the DL? Or was it less talent? Or was it that since Abraham got more sacks two of the last three years that Edwards will get more sacks? I really don’t know what you are trying to say here by comparing the two teams…..

    Look, I don’t think anyone is going to argue that Edwards is an upgrade over what you have had the last few years, both against the run and pass.
    His ability isn’t in question. His head is what slows him down. Like I said before, you’ll see what I mean….. For six million a year, I hope he can turn out 6-8 sacks at least. But with Abraham entering his 12th season….

  89. Canadianwetbasementsolutions.com says: Jul 30, 2011 5:56 AM

    Yes Abraham is entering his 12th season, but 2 out of the last 3 seasons have been his best in his career. The one in the middle he had a groin injury the whole year, but he returned to form last year. He hasn’t lost a step yet. The media is ready to put him in a retirement home, but he is one of, if not the top pass rushing DE in the league. He just doesn’t have a very good PR department.

    My point was to all the people on this blog saying that Edwards will be a bust because he was only successful because of MN line. Edwards will also benefit from Atlanta’s line. They don’t get a lot of press, but 3/4ths of them have been very good. People are saying Edwards benefited from Allen, but Abraham is just as good of a pass rusher as Allen (though I think Allen is a more well rounded player). They say Edwards benefited from the Williams wall. While ATL doesn’t exactly have the wall, they do have one of the deepest rotations of good DT in the league. It makes no sense to say Edwards benefited from the MN line, but will not benefit nearly equally from the ATL line which is very similar in quality.

    Now, I hear what you are saying about his attitude and mental stability. The only thing I can say to that is that Blank learned his lesson with the Petrino/Vick situation and went out and hired the wonder boy from the organization he admired most which was the Patriots. Dimitroff and Smith know what they are getting in Edwards. That is why he is only getting 11 mil guaranteed out of a 30 mil contract. We actually have a net gain in the cap by cutting Anderson and Jenkins and signing Edwards. I believe Dimitroff has sent a clear message to Edwards that it will be very easy to let him go if he doesn’t fall in line. We will see.

    My point is that he is being asked to do the exact same thing he was asked to do in MN. We aren’t asking him to be the man. He isn’t the best player on our line. He is in the exact same position everyone is saying he benefited from in MN.

  90. brewdogg says: Jul 30, 2011 10:36 AM

    And in this I agree with you. He should be fine….or as fine as he will allow himself to be anyway. Keep his head on straight and his mouth shut and you have a very good investment. Good luck with him.

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