Comments on: Conflicting reports emerge on whether Orton-to-Miami deal is dead

By: jason0707

jason0707 — Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:14:52 +0000

All I know is that in the 3 games I saw Tebow start, he was more exciting to watch, more efficient in the 4th quarter when it mattered most, and gave us the best chance of winning…even if Orton was healthy and played. Orton is a hall of fame practice QB…but when it comes to a real pass rush and its crunch time, he chokes…period.

By: macjacmccoy

macjacmccoy — Sun, 31 Jul 2011 00:59:29 +0000

I think skylark just crapped himself.

By: macjacmccoy

macjacmccoy — Sun, 31 Jul 2011 00:44:50 +0000

I makes no sense for him to want to leave. Usually you expect a guy whos on a bad whos in trade talks to want to jump at the offer. And when they dont people say they dont want to win. But its actually the opposite in this case. The Broncos have a better chance at winning then the dolphins do. They are both a mess but the AFC West is almost as bad as the NFC version while the AFC East is pretty good. The Broncos could actually win that division. Thats sad to say with the Chargers apart of it but you never know with them aslong as Turner is the Head Coach.

So why would he want to leave. The Dolphins arent giving him more money or a better chance at making the playoffs. And its not like hes loyal to the Broncos so hes not going to take the trade just to help them out. He actually has a chance to raise his value in Denver by making the playoffs the Dolphins cant offer him that.

By: kyleortonsarm

kyleortonsarm — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:46:23 +0000

You the man Kyle. If Denver had a defense then they would have had a 29-3 regular season record and two super bowls since you came on board!

By: skylark70455

skylark70455 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:50:24 +0000

Orton is crap… even with a cake AFC West schedule.

Chad Henne is crap… although with a much more difficult AFC East schedule.

Why would Miami pay anything for CRAP… when they already have it?

Good job Ireland… no need to help a crap team by trading anything valuable for their crap QB.

By: patsandsox

patsandsox — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:09:54 +0000

“The Moore Card” I assume that is sarcasm. Having Moore as your starting QB is about as good as having one of the cheerleaders. If they want to just tank the season, Chad can already do that.

I thought they were going to go for a wild card with Orton and Bush. Too bad for the Phin fans.

By: cavefan74

cavefan74 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:01:29 +0000

The Dolphins are simply setting themselves up for next years #1 pick (Andrew Luck)…

By: banditxx

banditxx — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:54:01 +0000

Kyle Orton is a 4-12 loser with a noodle arm.

By: merc13

merc13 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:53:06 +0000

Dear Miami owners (all 8 of you),

Thank you for signing Matt Moore. Miami should be able to .250 this year. Thanks once again.

From, jets fan in nj

By: xstaticonradio

xstaticonradio — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:41:41 +0000

It’s like Darrent Williams

By: denverdonkeylover

denverdonkeylover — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:26:12 +0000

I really wish this site would stop using Mike Klis as a source. The guys reporting is suspect to say the least. His analysis of the orton-tebow matchup, day 1 training camp was nothing more than klis being a sensationalist. 80% of the plays ran were running plays. Not a good way to gauge your quarterback play. In denver, all the analysts on the radio are making fun of the guy since his entire time spent at training camp was in a tent smoozing with all “reporters”.

Take his words with a grain of salt.

By: Spencer

Spencer — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:20:50 +0000

Interesting that in this quarterback DESPERATE league, no one wants to pay Orton, a solid veteran starter. That his own team would rather have gone with Tebow, Arizona would rather go with Kolb and Miami would rather go with nothing at QB says a lot.

Orton is the loser in the long-term, because he will never, ever get the Kolb money he thinks he deserves. Ever.

By: philahitman

philahitman — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:15:38 +0000

God forbid they just say “Noone really knows whether the deal is dead or not”.

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:43:10 +0000

Henne has his issues but they are not as bad as some are saying. Orton is an older, wiser version of Henne with a weaker arm. Why give up a pick or two and pay him more than he should get? Staying with Henne (at least for this year) is better for the future of the team. The OC is gone and with it go those drive-killing head-scratching play calls. Henne had a bunch of picks but he was not lucky at all. Every one of the balls that could have been picked, was. No other QB had bad luck like that. Many of the picks were on tips that chould have been completions. Henne may not be an elite QB but he is far from the garbage he is being portrayed as. The sky is not falling in Miami. Stick with Henne and drop the Orton trade.

By: mackie66

mackie66 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:29:56 +0000

Wake up people. Does anyone but an idiot believe Miami is going to pay Orton, a good QB yes, but is he worth Kevin Kolb money? Dont think so. Kolb isnt worth Kolb money and Orton believes he’s worth that kind of payday.
Dont think so. If he’s so damned good how come Denver was (is) wanting to trade him??? Why is no other NFL team envolved in this trade for Orton if he’s worth Kolb money??? I persoanlly believe Miami signed Moore to compete with Henne. Moore had a rough season last yr, but u cant blame him for the Carolina train wreck last yr. John Fox can take some it,,,,,, just say’en

By: phinfan

phinfan — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:24:26 +0000

Doucheshey… Ireland’s strategy by grabbing Matt Moore from John Fox is a good one. We’ll see what happens.

By: jetsetfred

jetsetfred — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:20:50 +0000

It’s like trying to find a way to kick out your roommate who hasn’t paid you rent in a month!

By: jmbresky

jmbresky — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:17:34 +0000

Not to say that the Dolphins are going to be a bad team this year, but I’d rather stake the future of the team on a top QB in the draft next year like Andrew Luck rather than an aging QB that isn’t exactly elite, in Kyle Orton.

By: pfrak

pfrak — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:08:38 +0000

Yeah, go get ‘em Kyle. Oh, by the way, in your obsession to put Tebow in his place you’re just tanking your own career. Denver has a bad O Line and no running game. You are totally immobile and not much at improvising when the protectiion (inevitably) breaks down. Miami had a much better line, a much better running game, and you old buddy Brandon Marshall just itching to have every ball you chuck thrown at him. So go get ‘em Kyle, when Denver is 1-7 and your stats are putrid because (ahem) John Fox is convinced he can run more behind the crappy offensive line he’s got, you’ll be sitting pretty next year. I bet there will be a whole lot of teams lining up to make you a starter.

By: whatever82

whatever82 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:06:34 +0000

Please, Miami is stupid to take Orton. Play your hand with Henne and be in a position to draft a QB next year. Orton is not anyone’s answer as he will find out in 2012. Broncos will draft a QB and Orton will continue to be what he is a stop gap measure for someone else.

Arizona Republic has reported that the Cards didn’t think too highly of Orton. Why? Red zone. Passing stats mean nothing if you can’t make it happen in the red zone.

By: hobartbaker

hobartbaker — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:02:39 +0000

Kyle Orton does not ask for respect. He commands respect.

By: raven540

raven540 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:02:27 +0000

Orton is a better QB than Kolb and I hope he finally gets paid.

By: hobartbaker

hobartbaker — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:48:50 +0000

The fat kid turns on the schoolyard bullies. Go get ‘em Kyle! Awesome.

By: polegojim

polegojim — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:47:43 +0000

This deal needs to get done, but mostly for Denver.

End the drama already – give Tebow his shot.

Orton will keep you .500, but never go out and grab a win for you. He’s actually an excellent back up.

By: oriolesvsravens

oriolesvsravens — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:45:10 +0000

If Tebow is the future it doesn’t make sense to continue to pay Orton. The guy already cashed in on a roster bonus this year. But I think Denver needs a veteran backup behind Tebow. Quinn’s okay but he’s not a solid backup.

By: steelernfl

steelernfl — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:43:05 +0000

“The dolphins are doing everything they can”
Signed Mike Brown
CEO Cinncinati Bungels

By: packers291

packers291 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:40:02 +0000

Best player plays. Tebow will ride the pine.

By: dwnhillwhaler

dwnhillwhaler — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:35:55 +0000

wake me up when ross sells the team and the new owner fires Ireland and sparano. thats when change begins. henne or orton? really? fight of the mediocre QBs. these guys are both garbage. noone trades a good qb. not when his replacement is the gator messiah.

By: andyreidisfat

andyreidisfat — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:35:40 +0000

I think Seattle would be wise to cut one of their three back ups and trade a third for Orton. Seattle was one bad quater from a NFC championship last year and then decided QB wasn’t important this year. The Seahawks could easily nab, have a good QB for the next 4-5 years and have a real shot at winning that division this season. Orton would be the best QB in that division the day he got there. and with Rice to stretch the field and Mike Williams one of the best possession receivers in the league and a decent running game Seattle could have a real shot at losing to the Eagles or Packers as those two teams head twords their epic Rematch in the NFC championship this season. Which would be a lot better than going 3-13 and just missing out on Luck because the Bengals or washington only win one game this year.

By: dolphins4

dolphins4 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:33:29 +0000

If Orton don’t want to leave Denver then trade Tebow to the Dolphins.