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		<title>By: dlr4skins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dlr4skins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 04:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See the look on that ugly mug?

I would sign him tomorrow and I bet he doesn&#039;t &quot;tweet&quot;.  Today&#039;s players are so soft its pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the look on that ugly mug?</p>
<p>I would sign him tomorrow and I bet he doesn&#8217;t &#8220;tweet&#8221;.  Today&#8217;s players are so soft its pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: joe6606</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why do we constantly expect pro athletes to treat their profession differently than any of us do ours.

If you were in a union that was negotiating with your boss on a new contract, and they came to you and said, “now that our company is huge and thriving, we think it’s only right to take some of your money away and give it to people who worked here when the company was smaller and less profitable”, what would your reaction be?&quot;
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Exactly.

It&#039;s unfortunate that many former players are in bad shape both financially and medically, but they simply have no legal right to extract better retirement benefits. 

From a moral standpoint, the owners, many of whom are the sons/relatives of the owners who screwed these ex-players out of decent retirement packages, owe them compensation IMO. But the current players???? 

Give me a break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why do we constantly expect pro athletes to treat their profession differently than any of us do ours.</p>
<p>If you were in a union that was negotiating with your boss on a new contract, and they came to you and said, “now that our company is huge and thriving, we think it’s only right to take some of your money away and give it to people who worked here when the company was smaller and less profitable”, what would your reaction be?&#8221;<br />
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Exactly.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that many former players are in bad shape both financially and medically, but they simply have no legal right to extract better retirement benefits. </p>
<p>From a moral standpoint, the owners, many of whom are the sons/relatives of the owners who screwed these ex-players out of decent retirement packages, owe them compensation IMO. But the current players???? </p>
<p>Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: illiniftw</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to laugh if a new CBA is signed in like 30-40 years that increases salaries enough that today&#039;s players come back crying that they &quot;only made 3-4 mil a year&quot; when they played.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to laugh if a new CBA is signed in like 30-40 years that increases salaries enough that today&#8217;s players come back crying that they &#8220;only made 3-4 mil a year&#8221; when they played.</p>
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		<title>By: realitypolice</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rugdog100 says:
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Mike, I’m not interested in their “legal rights”, but rather ‘doing what’s right’ for the retired players. You write about them doing something when they were active players… lol. When most of these guys were active players, the NFL was in its infancy, financially. The owners were not bringing in 9 Billion Dollars per year. To suggest that they could have done the same thing the current NFLPA just did, is ludicrous… totally apple and oranges.
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Why do we constantly expect pro athletes to treat their profession differently than any of us do ours.

If you were in a union that was negotiating with your boss on a new contract, and they came to you and said, &quot;now that our company is huge and thriving, we think it&#039;s only right to take some of your money away and  give it to people who worked here when the company was smaller and less profitable&quot;, what would your reaction be?

People are always most charitable with other people&#039;s money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rugdog100 says:<br />
Aug 1, 2011 11:29 AM<br />
Mike, I’m not interested in their “legal rights”, but rather ‘doing what’s right’ for the retired players. You write about them doing something when they were active players… lol. When most of these guys were active players, the NFL was in its infancy, financially. The owners were not bringing in 9 Billion Dollars per year. To suggest that they could have done the same thing the current NFLPA just did, is ludicrous… totally apple and oranges.<br />
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<p>Why do we constantly expect pro athletes to treat their profession differently than any of us do ours.</p>
<p>If you were in a union that was negotiating with your boss on a new contract, and they came to you and said, &#8220;now that our company is huge and thriving, we think it&#8217;s only right to take some of your money away and  give it to people who worked here when the company was smaller and less profitable&#8221;, what would your reaction be?</p>
<p>People are always most charitable with other people&#8217;s money.</p>
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		<title>By: vikingdoode</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think todays player realize the risk about playing football. I would think its pretty obvious that the players from pre-mid 90&#039;s on down really don&#039;t know the casualties of playing for a long time. I think there&#039;s a obligation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think todays player realize the risk about playing football. I would think its pretty obvious that the players from pre-mid 90&#8242;s on down really don&#8217;t know the casualties of playing for a long time. I think there&#8217;s a obligation.</p>
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		<title>By: southcakpanther</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just retire guys.  I&#039;m not happy with my retiement package either.  Vegas, TV network coverage, the internet, and fantasy football have done a hell of a lot more for today&#039;s game than you old timers did 40 years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just retire guys.  I&#8217;m not happy with my retiement package either.  Vegas, TV network coverage, the internet, and fantasy football have done a hell of a lot more for today&#8217;s game than you old timers did 40 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: lilrob10201</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does this mean ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does this mean ?</p>
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		<title>By: hobartbaker</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eller should take that evil scowling gargoyle dressed by the blind haberdasher directly to the dump.

Mo sold out the children and the old folks to put more fat on the prime hogs. Bald, blustery, little bastard that he is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eller should take that evil scowling gargoyle dressed by the blind haberdasher directly to the dump.</p>
<p>Mo sold out the children and the old folks to put more fat on the prime hogs. Bald, blustery, little bastard that he is.</p>
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		<title>By: duanethomas</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You would think since DeMaurice Smith and Eller shop for hats at the sameplace they could come to some accord on this issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think since DeMaurice Smith and Eller shop for hats at the sameplace they could come to some accord on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: rugdog100</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,  I&#039;m not interested in their &quot;legal rights&quot;, but rather &#039;doing what&#039;s right&#039; for the retired players.  You write about them doing something when they were active players... lol.  When most of these guys were active players, the NFL was in its infancy, financially.  The owners were not bringing in 9 Billion Dollars per year.  To suggest that they could have done the same thing the current NFLPA just did, is ludicrous... totally apple and oranges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,  I&#8217;m not interested in their &#8220;legal rights&#8221;, but rather &#8216;doing what&#8217;s right&#8217; for the retired players.  You write about them doing something when they were active players&#8230; lol.  When most of these guys were active players, the NFL was in its infancy, financially.  The owners were not bringing in 9 Billion Dollars per year.  To suggest that they could have done the same thing the current NFLPA just did, is ludicrous&#8230; totally apple and oranges.</p>
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		<title>By: daudi88</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daudi88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Football is back! This is a tree falling in the woods...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Football is back! This is a tree falling in the woods&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: evrybdyhas1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I feel the retired players deserve something additional the real world screws retirees. Economic reality has destroyed pension and retirement benefits for many Americans. 

The retirees of the NFL will be better served to negotiate rather then litigate otherwise they may lose the big battle forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I feel the retired players deserve something additional the real world screws retirees. Economic reality has destroyed pension and retirement benefits for many Americans. </p>
<p>The retirees of the NFL will be better served to negotiate rather then litigate otherwise they may lose the big battle forever.</p>
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		<title>By: realitypolice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realitypolice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as Hausfeld is billing by the hour, this will never go away.

He will keep finding ways to spin it and keep finding new baseless motions and suits to file until whoever hired him fires him.

Looking at you, hall of famer with the snappy hat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as Hausfeld is billing by the hour, this will never go away.</p>
<p>He will keep finding ways to spin it and keep finding new baseless motions and suits to file until whoever hired him fires him.</p>
<p>Looking at you, hall of famer with the snappy hat.</p>
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		<title>By: broncosaddict</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; They need to be careful, or the fans may ultimately decide that they want Eller and the retired players to just go away.&quot;

Too late, made that decision a long time ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; They need to be careful, or the fans may ultimately decide that they want Eller and the retired players to just go away.&#8221;</p>
<p>Too late, made that decision a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: andrewfbrowne</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turnabout is fair play, NFLPA sues NFL in court for lockout insurance and now retired players are walking down that same path on the NFLPA.  When money is involved no one is clean.

I wonder if they went to court as opposed to going through the NLRB if Doty would give the reitired players the same type of treatment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turnabout is fair play, NFLPA sues NFL in court for lockout insurance and now retired players are walking down that same path on the NFLPA.  When money is involved no one is clean.</p>
<p>I wonder if they went to court as opposed to going through the NLRB if Doty would give the reitired players the same type of treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: vbe2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what? We have football back. Who cares anymore?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what? We have football back. Who cares anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: captainwisdom8888</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m officially over any court-related football articles...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m officially over any court-related football articles&#8230;</p>
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