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Roddy White: If media won’t put Moss in Canton, give the vote to players

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The members of the media who vote for the Pro Football Hall of Fame are divided on whether Randy Moss is worthy of induction in Canton. That makes one active player very unhappy.

As far as Falcons receiver Roddy White is concerned, Moss is a slam-dunk first-ballot Hall of Famer, and if the voters don’t realize that then they don’t deserve to be voters.

“Just walked in the door and the question on NFL network is randy moss a 1st ballot hall of famer,” White wrote on Twitter. “If he don’t get in on the first ballot than only football players should vote for the hall of fame cause than means u just hating on moss.”

White may have a point that players should have some say in the Hall of Fame selection process. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to include some former players on the Hall of Fame panel.

But there are also completely legitimate reasons to vote against Moss: He was a constant headache who eventually wore out his welcome with every team he played on, and he has fewer catches and yards than Tim Brown, who has been voted down by the Hall of Fame selection committee.

So if the voters think Moss is not a Hall of Famer, they’re not necessarily “just hating on” him. But White may be right that players should have a vote.

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64 Responses to “Roddy White: If media won’t put Moss in Canton, give the vote to players”
  1. inbillwetrust says: Aug 2, 2011 8:45 AM

    Moss burning Revis and snagging the ball with one hand in the endzone will forever be etched in my brain as one of the all-time greatest catches. Slouch made revis look like a fool and probably even made rex ryan wanna touch randy’s feet.

  2. meatloaf025 says: Aug 2, 2011 8:49 AM

    If the hall of FAME is about FAME is about Moss.

  3. thetooloftools says: Aug 2, 2011 8:50 AM

    Moss will be in on the first ballot.
    Canton doesn’t want the controversy, and besides… he’s coming back.

  4. datboy2022 says: Aug 2, 2011 8:51 AM

    Yes Moss was a headache but men lie women lie numbers don’t!!!!

  5. rdms says: Aug 2, 2011 8:54 AM

    Put the man’d in. Not many players can truly say that they gave 100% on every play. Jerry Rice, the late Walter Payton, anyone. You can’t convince me that every player goes 100% on every play. It is not human.

    Doubt the logic? Just consider the people you work with (incl. yourself). Is everyone giving 100% in the office on a daily basis? I doubt it.

    I’m not. That’s why I’m on PFT during the day. LOL.

    I keeps it real, and so should the HoF voters.

  6. thestrunzo says: Aug 2, 2011 8:54 AM

    It took Art Monk years to get into the Hall, and he had a much better career pound for pound than Moss. Of course Monk may be more proof that the Media doesn’t always get it right, but since he had to wait several years to finally get it, I think Moss should at least have to wait a few ballots before he’s voted in. He def doesn’t deserve to be a first ballot HOF’er.

  7. otistaylor89 says: Aug 2, 2011 8:54 AM

    As much as I like Tim Brown, he couldn’t hold Randy Moss’s jock.

  8. losunderdogs says: Aug 2, 2011 8:54 AM

    hes 100% right, he changed the way the position was played, double teamed sometimes triple teamed u had 2 have a game plan for him even up till his last year he wus still getting doubled, moss wus a game changer if u left him in single coverage he made you pay for it….Tim Brown?? really? he should have retired four years before he did all he cared about wus his stats and he wus NOT a game changer he DID NOT redefine the wr position never commanding double teams if Moss wanted to play another four years he could & put up stats to pass everyone but if he did that the media would come up with another problem with him

  9. georgeanderson2 says: Aug 2, 2011 8:57 AM

    What is his asking price this season? He would look good in a Ravens uniform catching balls from Joe.
    If he does stay retired, he should go in first ballot. You don’t try and teach somebody a lesson post career that they should have been nicer to the media during their playing days.

  10. Earl Westlake says: Aug 2, 2011 8:58 AM

    “…and his career numbers aren’t as good as the career numbers of Tim Brown, who has been voted down by the Hall of Fame selection committee.”

    This isn’t baseball…or else getting to Canton would be strictly about numbers. Moss is one of the most dominant WR EVER PERIOD. Should go in first year eligible.

  11. albertti71 says: Aug 2, 2011 8:58 AM

    Numbers alone are not the only reason to be considered for Canton. Moss forced NFL defenses to change the way they play. If you did not scheme against Moss, he WOULD burn you.

    After the 1998 season and torching the Packers twice, the Packers spent a number of their top draft picks in 1999 on defensive backs to try and stop Moss.

    Cris Carter and Tim Brown are great WRs and both had great careers and deserve to be in the HOF. However, neither dominated the way Moss did and could break a game open the way he could. Defenses did not come into a game and say we have to shut down Tim Brown or we lose, they did say that about Moss.

  12. chc4 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:00 AM

    Um, didn’t he just retire yesterday? Typical media blather. Wake me in 5 years or whatever the waiting period is.

  13. riverhorsey says: Aug 2, 2011 9:00 AM

    I wouldn’t feed this F___ing sh_t to my dog.

  14. sicklife1 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:01 AM

    I’m not a Moss fan, but he should def be a hall of famer. The dude was a freak on the field….

  15. tooz72 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:03 AM

    LT did a lot more bad things than Moss ever did and LT was a first ballot HOFer..Moss deserves to be a first ballot HOFer

  16. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Aug 2, 2011 9:05 AM

    Yeh, but Moss DID score 53 more TD’s than Brown in four less years. That’s 153 for Moss to Brown’s 100. 53% more TD’s in 13 years vs. 17 years. That’s a big difference.

  17. mills1556 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:06 AM

    You’re going to compare Moss being behind 76 yards and 140 receptions (meaning Moss yds/catch is way higher that Brown’s), to Brown being behing 53 freaking TD’s to Moss, with Moss playing 2 less years than Brown… It isn’t even a debate… If the writers don’t vote him in 1st ballot because he was a “headache” then White is right, revoke their ability to vote…

  18. suit0n says: Aug 2, 2011 9:08 AM

    The man created a word for his domination. Moss’d. HOF First Ballot, no doubt about it.

    A shame he played on 15-1 and 16-0 teams and no ring.

  19. FinFan68 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:08 AM

    The only players that should be voting on HoF prospects are HoF players. Moss has great stats but he was a locker room issue many times. My main issue was his on-field play at times. Taking plays off (admittedly) and not even trying to catch the game winning TD that fell 3 feet away while playing his former team should have a huge impact. He is a HoF player but the first ballot guys should not have so much controversy. The HoF recognizes individual achievement within a team sport; the players that make it immediately ought to have some concept of “team”

  20. imasturbate says: Aug 2, 2011 9:10 AM

    We saw how great that worked out when they voted for the top 100 players.

  21. lionsrawr says: Aug 2, 2011 9:11 AM

    tim brown played what 4 more years than moss? of course he has better numbers…

  22. melonnhead says: Aug 2, 2011 9:12 AM

    There are a lot of guys that didn’t quit on every team they ever played for that deserve to be in but aren’t. Moss ain’t that special.

  23. rabidbillsfan says: Aug 2, 2011 9:13 AM

    Moss’s numbers do not compare to Brown’s because Randy only played 13 seasons, and not 17. Both receivers compiled some pretty decent records, but Moss has some of the bigger ones. Moss wasn’t just a deep-threat, he was the ultimate offensive weapon. Constantly drawing double teams, yet still making amazing catches. The one handed grab on Revis, the Cowboys game, the Denver lateral game, the list goes on for amazing catches and games. He changed the game, not just impacted it. I would even go as far as to say that Moss had a bigger impact on the game than Jerry Rice, does that mean he’s better? No, but the game is diffrent now that he has played it. Either way, he should get in for his preformance on the field, because god knows the journalists that will be voting could never have done what he did.

  24. ejbpound4pound says: Aug 2, 2011 9:14 AM

    ” and his career numbers aren’t as good as the career numbers of Tim Brown”

    Tim Brown: 1094 receptions 14934 yards 105 total tds

    Randy Moss: 954 receptions 14585 yards 154 total tds

    I wouldnt say Tim Browns numbers are better being that he nearly had 50 more touchdowns. Both should make the hall of fame.

  25. kingjoe1 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:16 AM

    I am pretty sure 95% of the media and fans know Moss is 1st Ballot HOFer. Is Roddy White having an argument with himself?

  26. redrew says: Aug 2, 2011 9:19 AM

    Which of the 150+ TDs caused headaches for teams? People too often forget these players are professionals….which means independent businessmen getting paid for their services….and the business side often pours over on to the field. The man was great…must see TV. Name one WR during his era that you would rather watch. Everytime he stepped on the field, there was an opportunity to see something special

  27. xxflydjxx18 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:20 AM

    If Randy Moss doesn’t make the hall of fame on the first ballot it really shows how ignorant the voters are. He basically invented taking the top off the defense with his speed and ability to make the jump ball look simple. And he should comeback you mean to tell me that he can’t play for a contender this year? He torched Darrelle Revis for a one handed catch just last year, who else has done that!

  28. hystoracle says: Aug 2, 2011 9:27 AM

    Assuming they all remained retired, He would be eligible the same year as Favre and T.O. Moss and T.O. have very comparable numbers. Do all 3 of those guys go in at same time? For all the great talent of Moss had he still has empty fingers (no rings). His biggest legacy during his career is when the going got tough, he quit. When his team struggled he’d go sulk on the bench and quit on them.

  29. macjacmccoy says: Aug 2, 2011 9:30 AM

    I thought the players should have a say in the Hall Fame process until a couple of monthes ago when I seen their top 100 players of 2011 list. That made me realize that most players really dont have a clue about whats going on in the NFL unless it pertains to their self or their friends.

  30. billygoat says: Aug 2, 2011 9:32 AM

    The player can’t even pick all pro’s right. They always pick on name recognition and not how they played that year.
    Why would you want to give them a say in the Hall of Fame voting.

  31. truthserum4u says: Aug 2, 2011 9:33 AM

    ” and his career numbers aren’t as good as the career numbers of Tim Brown”

    Tim Brown: 1094 receptions 14934 yards 105 total tds

    Randy Moss: 954 receptions 14585 yards 154 total tds

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    And it took Brown 53 more games to accomplish his totals.

  32. arbiterflick says: Aug 2, 2011 9:37 AM

    After seeing how the players voted in the NFL Top 100, I want to keep them as far away as possible from voting in the HOF.

  33. hatesycophants says: Aug 2, 2011 9:39 AM

    @Earl Westlake,

    I assume you’re talking about this article. Tim freaking Brown? Finding one receiver, in one statistical category to make a specious comparison? Sounds like Smiff has a crush.

  34. TheDPR says: Aug 2, 2011 9:44 AM

    The discussion isn’t about whether he gets in the Hall. It is about whether he deserves to get in on the first ballot.

    I think the way he would take entire seasons (not just the random play) off and mail them in justifiably hurts his case. He had a lot of great seasons, statistically speaking, but he had a lot of flaws both as a player and as a teammate, and zero Super Bowl rings.

  35. gregjennings85 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:49 AM

    Why is this even up for discussion?

    People act like Moss isn’t a top-10 WR all-time, and one of the top 50 players in NFL history.

    As a Packers fan who was admitably insulted by his actions in Lambeau a few years back, I can say without hesitation, that Moss was the best deep ball WR in NFL history.

    Sure, the guy was a bit on the immature side, but that takes nothing away from his obvious skills on the field.

  36. gregjennings85 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:51 AM

    Admittedly. Yikes. Someone needs a coffee.

  37. vikingdoode says: Aug 2, 2011 9:51 AM

    Moss will be in the HOF but he might not get in on the first time. He was an a-whole to the media members. Right or wrong about it that plays apart. Rudy White needs to shut up and play football lol another diva Bitch.

  38. mr4thand1 says: Aug 2, 2011 9:58 AM

    Tim Brown, Chris Carter, and Andre Reed in the Hall of Fame BEFORE Randy Moss……..and I don’t care what ANYBODY says!

  39. str8up12 says: Aug 2, 2011 10:09 AM

    Finally we know gregjennings85’s real identity. He can be none other than Joe Buck. Seriously?? You were offended by someone pretending to moon you? Do you get offended when the fans beside you is mooning the opposing players?

  40. melonnhead says: Aug 2, 2011 10:13 AM

    I can say without hesitation, that Moss was the best deep ball WR in NFL history.

    ——————————————————————

    I’ll take Bob Hayes, the man for whom the zone and bump and run defense was created because nobody could cover him. 20 yards per catch on average for his entire career. That’s like 4.5 more yards per catch than Moss.

  41. smokehouse56 says: Aug 2, 2011 10:14 AM

    Hey, they put Rodman in the basketball HOF. There isn’t a lick of difference between the two.

  42. bigtroy19 says: Aug 2, 2011 10:16 AM

    funny, I just checked don Maynard stats, and if he’s in, how in the HELL does randy not go?

  43. gregjennings85 says: Aug 2, 2011 10:26 AM

    str8up12:

    “Finally we know gregjennings85′s real identity. He can be none other than Joe Buck. Seriously?? You were offended by someone pretending to moon you? Do you get offended when the fans beside you is mooning the opposing players?”

    _________________________________

    A.) Take it back – Joe Buck is the absolute worst. I detest him.

    B.) Lambeau Field is a sacred ground for Packers fans, and for NFL fans that have even a shred of an idea where the game has come from. To have a player mock-whipe-himself on that field sent me through the roof, not for the player or the action but because of the great players that have bled on that field. For a player as good as Moss, that was far below him. As I said above, I will always hold that Moss is a top-50 NFL talent all-time, but that act was as low class as it gets. I even liked Randy as a person prior to that, with his “straight cash, homey” interview, etc.

  44. lionsrawr says: Aug 2, 2011 10:29 AM

    has there ever been a receiver in the game besides moss that completely caused teams to change their gameplans? seriously, jerry was amazing, to is incredibly, but i never felt teams gameplanned to stop them, like teams gameplanned to stop moss.

  45. gregjennings85 says: Aug 2, 2011 10:30 AM

    melonhead:

    Hayes was probably number 2 in my book, man was he great, and I hate the Cowboys. Hayes, I believe, is the only person to ever win a Super Bowl and an Olympic Gold Medal.

    Still, I think Hayes was 6′. I will take the 6’4″ Moss over him when it comes to a deep ball situation.

    Imagine what Moss would have done had he played in the NFL in the 70’s at his height…assuming he wasn’t decapitated first by an illegal hit.

  46. touchdownroddywhite says: Aug 2, 2011 10:31 AM

    First ballot or bust!

    The man holds 3 out of the top 10 Season TD records and a ton of others for goodness sake.

  47. nhbt says: Aug 2, 2011 10:33 AM

    Yards and catches… Ok. How many career tds? Also, it’s the pro “football” hall of fame, not the pro “this guy was not a headache” hall of fame. So funny to see how defensive media guys get when a player calls them out.

  48. lionsrawr says: Aug 2, 2011 10:34 AM

    Tim Brown, Chris Carter, and Andre Reed in the Hall of Fame BEFORE Randy Moss……..and I don’t care what ANYBODY says!

    —–

    i’ll give you carter, but reed couldn’t hold moss’ jock, and tim brown is a borderline “before moss” guy. his catches and yards are slightly better than moss’, but he’s way behind in td’s and he played 50+ more games than moss.

    moss has 5 all pro team’s to brown’s 0. moss was roy, brown wasn’t.

  49. j0esixpack says: Aug 2, 2011 10:42 AM

    Dude has the all time record for most TD receptions in a year.

    He’s in. No debate.

    The fact remains that the football world will always question what Moss could have accomplished if he always gave his best and kept his ego in check.

  50. 3octaveFart says: Aug 2, 2011 10:49 AM

    One solution that might placate everybody.
    Go ahead and put Moss in the HOF, just put his bust in a men’s room urinal.

  51. Scott Hevel says: Aug 2, 2011 11:06 AM

    I have a thought on the HOF, in general. If over a period of a few years, you can say the person was the best at that position, he deserves to be in. Also, if the other team has to completely change their strategy to handle said person, that’s someone who deserves to be in.

    Tim Brown was a great return man and a really good over the middle person. I think he’s a borderline HOF guy even though there was never a year he was the best receiver in the league. As a receiver alone, he wouldn’t sniff the HOF. Because of his other skills, though, he probably deserves to be in.

    Moss was the best WR in the league for at least 5-6 years. Madden coined the “Moss rule” for his elite skills. Moss always required 2 or 3 players to cover him and it often didn’t matter. At his prime when he finally had an elite QB, he had 23 TD’s in a season. With all of the negatives the media throws out, he was a game changer to the extreme. If he doesn’t get into the HOF in his first or second season, the HOF would truly be a joke. Then again, considering how the Art Monk situation went down, I still kind of feel that way about it.

    Moss has to be in. Period

  52. lilrob10201 says: Aug 2, 2011 11:27 AM

    Anybody in my book is a Hall of fame WR if they make Daunte Culpepper look good.

  53. expatpatfan says: Aug 2, 2011 11:28 AM

    ” and his career numbers aren’t as good as the career numbers of Tim Brown”
    ================================
    Does this guy think Jim Brown is the 12th-best RB of all time because he’s 12th on the yardage list?

  54. threedeep1998 says: Aug 2, 2011 11:31 AM

    Cris Carter deserves to be in the HOF first. Then Moss…

  55. arnoldziffel says: Aug 2, 2011 11:55 AM

    Moss a Hall of Famer? Nope – not on the first ballot, that’s for sure.

    If all you did was watch a highlight reel of his top plays then yes, probably you’d think so.

    But, after watching him for years in the NFC Central, and then North Division … on television as well as in person, the guy just left you scratching your head.

    Moss had true superstar talent, but he was a Ferrari with a 4-cylinder engine. Had he actually played up to his ability whenever he was on the field, the guy would have SHATTERED every record Jerry Rice ever owned – he could have been the greatest of all time. But he didn’t have the fire inside … he coasted – and that’s not first ballot HOF credentials.

    Randy Moss is the poster child for one-year contracts with incentive clauses and no guarantees. I hope the voters do put Randy in the Hall … but it would be very appropriate if they took their own sweet time about it.

  56. conewalker says: Aug 2, 2011 12:20 PM

    The Tim Brown has better stats comment should force Michael Smith to re-sign. He has him by what, 300 yards?!?! Really, you have to say they are essentially tied. Put it this way, if Moss plays one more year, he has Yards on Brown and two years and he has TD’s on Brown.

    Conversely Tim Brown would have had to of played 7 more years at his TD rate (at least) to catch Moss at 153.

    Thing about receivers is they need to not reward these Quant players like Harrison and Tim Brown. Having a million years of 80 catches 900 yards is not as dynamic as having 70 catch 1200 yards 13+ TD’s.

    Like someone said, Tim Brown has also never been a 1st team All Pro. He wasn’t the key cog in two record-breaking years in terms of points scored.

    So give me a break with this Tim Brown garbage. Great player but not even in the same conversation as Randy Moss.

    Oh and to ArnoldZiffer above, Randy was STILL on pace to shatter Jerry’s records. Certainly TD’s and probably Yards too. Assuming he played until he was 42 like Rice. Moss also didn’t spend 90% of his career with Montana and Young, not to mention the twilight of his career with an MVP candidate in Rich Gannon.

  57. blchaney69 says: Aug 2, 2011 12:36 PM

    Sorry RODDY, I dont think the fans want to Leave ANYTHING up to the players after the way they handled the CBS process..No thanks.. Moss will get in the HOF.. But lets not pretend that Moss had a Jerry Rice type career… As someone else on this site or another (cant remember) stated, He quit on Minnesota, He quit for two years in Oakland, and then he Quit on the Patriots when things were not going the way he liked them too.. Its actually hard to remember the last time Moss was consistantly Hall of Fame material!!

  58. theytukrjobs says: Aug 2, 2011 1:09 PM

    I hate when people get on their moral high horses like this. Most players liked Moss through his career because of his motivation and work ethic. The media perpetuated most of the slander against him and really it all is rooted in the fact that Moss was a receiver that conserved his energy in game for the plays that mattered most.

    2nd best WR of all time, and people question how he played the game saying he dogged it. As if it would be better for him to block on a sweep to the left and then not have the extra step to haul in a 60 yard bomb on the next play.

    This is exactly why you don’t vote purely on “whether you like the guy”. You vote on stats primarily because those are not subjective. The guy was a difference maker and probably has the best highlight reel of a WR ever.

  59. conewalker says: Aug 2, 2011 1:22 PM

    When exactly did he quit on the Vikes? He was ushered out by Childress during a power struggle, even though almost all the players wanted Childress’ head, not Moss’. That was Wilf’s own fault, then the idiot goes and fires Childress a few weeks later anyway.

    And before that for us in Minnesota, all he did was average 80 catches 1400 yards 14 TD’s a season. Those first 6 years he was on pace to rip Rice’s records apart, before WE sold him out for peanuts to a hopeless situation in Oakland. How was that quitting on us? Seems to me he was propping us up for years, despite having a defense that was ranked 30th or worse.

  60. blchaney69 says: Aug 2, 2011 1:32 PM

    How about when it mattered in a Playoff game against the Giants.. He half assed routes across the middle…short arming balls so he wouldnt get popped..Dont tell me he didnt cause i watched the damn game. And Sorry, but there are plenty of receivers who give it their ALL to block on a sweep and still give it their all on the next pass play..Its CALLED PLAYING FOOTBALL… Sorry, but you giving it everything on a run play could mean that the RB scores instead of you and then you dont have to run down the field for the “60 yard bomb” But why would a guy like Moss want them to score on a run..that just takes away his receiving TD opportunity.. You can defend the guy all you want.. you know him just as well as i do personally, so that means nothing..
    Like I said, he will get in the Hall of fame. Most likely first ballot!! So my point was, Roddy should just zip it cause no one wants to hear players talk.. Just play the game!!

  61. bittersweettruth says: Aug 2, 2011 1:41 PM

    “But there are also completely legitimate reasons to vote against Moss: He was a constant headache who eventually wore out his welcome with every team he played on,”
    ============================

    Wearing out your welcome with different teams has nothing to do with what he did on the field. NOTHING AT ALL. Brett Favre wore out his welcome everywhere he went and the only punishments that he ever got were record setting contracts offered to him to come back one more year behave like a bigger self-centered distraction jerk than he did the year before. Moss never took pictures of his crotch and showed it off to woman. Favre threw Childress and Mike McCarthy under the bus ever chance he got. He crapped on the Jets. Moss may have disagreed with Belichek but he never criticized him publically. Randy Moss had too much respect for himself to have to beg teams for a respectable contract. He would let these dumb GM’s pitch pennies at his feet to pick up.This man changed the game the same way Bob Hayes did over 30 years ago. No one could match up with him. The Jets beat the Pats last year in the play-offs because Wes Welker turned back into clark Kent without the real’ Superman’ lined up on the other side of the field. Simply said, Randy Moss is the Greatest of All time. Jerry Rice had John Taylor and JOE MONTANA for an entire career.I DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT.

    Randy Moss deserves to be in the HOF as much as any other player that has ever played on Sunday.

  62. bittersweettruth says: Aug 2, 2011 1:44 PM

    “But there are also completely legitimate reasons to vote against Moss: He was a constant headache who eventually wore out his welcome with every team he played on,”
    ============================

    Wearing out your welcome with different teams has nothing to do with what he did on the field. NOTHING AT ALL. Brett Favre wore out his welcome everywhere he went and the only punishments that he ever got were record setting contracts offered to him to come back one more year behave like a bigger self-centered distraction jerk than he did the year before. Moss never took pictures of his crotch and showed it off to woman. Favre threw Childress and Mike McCarthy under the bus ever chance he got. He crapped on the Jets. Moss may have disagreed with Belichek but he never criticized him publically. Randy Moss had too much respect for himself to have to beg teams for a respectable contract. He would not let these dumb GM’s pitch pennies at his feet to pick up.This man changed the game the same way Bob Hayes did over 30 years ago. No one could match up with him. The Jets beat the Pats last year in the play-offs because Wes Welker turned back into clark Kent without the real’ Superman’ lined up on the other side of the field. Simply said, Randy Moss is the Greatest of All time. Jerry Rice had John Taylor and JOE MONTANA for an entire career.I DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT.

    Randy Moss deserves to be in the HOF as much as any other player that has ever played on Sunday.

  63. billsjetsfan says: Aug 2, 2011 5:37 PM

    omg lol. Moss clearly belongs in the hof. Who cares how annoying he may have been, it takes nothing away from the fact that he was a great receiver and belongs easily!!!

  64. sieg1234 says: Aug 2, 2011 6:28 PM

    Tim Brown is a certain HoF candidate, but you are discrediting Moss completely by pretending that Brown was in Moss’ league. Not a chance. Numbers are great, yeah of course Brown had more receptions and yards – makes sense considering Brown played in 53 more games than Moss. Moss blew him away in terms of his prime years, his efficiency stats, and especially touchdowns. Being a “great” person shouldn’t earn you extra honors into the HoF, and being a “bad” person shouldn’t keep you from the HoF. The Hall should ONLY be about what that player does on the field, that’s all! And in that regard, Randy Moss was the 2nd greatest receiver the game has ever seen to this point. Which is amazing considering how bad of a route runner he was.

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