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		<title>By: Topher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Topher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 00:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stranger, well said.  Water bridge and all that.  I must have had an extra sensitive day after being disappointed my beloved Colts thought Tommie Harris the best they can do in free agency.

The end of an era isn&#039;t nearly as fun as the beginning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stranger, well said.  Water bridge and all that.  I must have had an extra sensitive day after being disappointed my beloved Colts thought Tommie Harris the best they can do in free agency.</p>
<p>The end of an era isn&#8217;t nearly as fun as the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: brewdogg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewdogg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow....the softer side of super.  Cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;.the softer side of super.  Cool.</p>
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		<title>By: supersuckers3</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[favreblows says: 
Aug 2, 2011 8:29 PM 
They didn’t get a bargain. They got a horsesh!t left tackle. McKinnie is a dirt bag and deserved to be cut, but the Vikings are now worse off at LT. THAT is the reason he was so cheap. Hell…the Colts cut ties with the guy because they didn’t want to pay him as much as the Queens. What does that tell you? The usual idiots (Paul Hargis for sure) will hail this decision. But anybody that knows football knows that the Vikings OL just got worse. Favre got killed last year and AP never had holes. Look forward to more of the same Viking fans.
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God you are an embarrasment to Packer fans.  Shut up.   You write 1000 character rants about things that haven&#039;t occured??  Talk trash all you want but at least don&#039;t talk it like a 7 year old.  C&#039;mon...    Act as if.   If you even know what that means.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>favreblows says:<br />
Aug 2, 2011 8:29 PM<br />
They didn’t get a bargain. They got a horsesh!t left tackle. McKinnie is a dirt bag and deserved to be cut, but the Vikings are now worse off at LT. THAT is the reason he was so cheap. Hell…the Colts cut ties with the guy because they didn’t want to pay him as much as the Queens. What does that tell you? The usual idiots (Paul Hargis for sure) will hail this decision. But anybody that knows football knows that the Vikings OL just got worse. Favre got killed last year and AP never had holes. Look forward to more of the same Viking fans.<br />
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<p>God you are an embarrasment to Packer fans.  Shut up.   You write 1000 character rants about things that haven&#8217;t occured??  Talk trash all you want but at least don&#8217;t talk it like a 7 year old.  C&#8217;mon&#8230;    Act as if.   If you even know what that means.</p>
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		<title>By: paulharghis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paulharghis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or at least, you don&#039;t understand it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or at least, you don&#8217;t understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: paulharghis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paulharghis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom and Favre: I see sarcasm isn&#039;t either of yours strong suit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom and Favre: I see sarcasm isn&#8217;t either of yours strong suit.</p>
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		<title>By: thephantomstranger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thephantomstranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Tom, or should I say Carl? You two are so similar you ought to get a room together at the Weekapaug Inn. I am who I am (copyright Popeye). Pervy is enjoying retirement on his lakefront property and Gravy is working on improving his SAT scores.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tom, or should I say Carl? You two are so similar you ought to get a room together at the Weekapaug Inn. I am who I am (copyright Popeye). Pervy is enjoying retirement on his lakefront property and Gravy is working on improving his SAT scores.</p>
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		<title>By: gumberculez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gumberculez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@croghan1919

re-read your post yourself.

With your response I can see your context is different than what I originally thought, so we all agree there.  On first glance I imagine I&#039;m not the only one who took your post different than you intended it.  In fact colts609 did as well.

But all in all you&#039;re right that the Vikings will find out about Johnson soon enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@croghan1919</p>
<p>re-read your post yourself.</p>
<p>With your response I can see your context is different than what I originally thought, so we all agree there.  On first glance I imagine I&#8217;m not the only one who took your post different than you intended it.  In fact colts609 did as well.</p>
<p>But all in all you&#8217;re right that the Vikings will find out about Johnson soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: tombradysponytail</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tombradysponytail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Phantom, or should I say Pervy... or Gravy... how many times have you been banned from here for your &quot;negativity&quot; as you call it, of course some may call it assedness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Phantom, or should I say Pervy&#8230; or Gravy&#8230; how many times have you been banned from here for your &#8220;negativity&#8221; as you call it, of course some may call it assedness.</p>
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		<title>By: thephantomstranger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thephantomstranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topher says: 
Aug 3, 2011 8:34 AM 
Stranger, I stand corrected you were the picture of etiquette and not at all a tough guy or a troll. And when you called me an idiot I instinctively knew that you meant “dude, you are mistaken.”

See, there is an ever increasing number of posters, such as yourself, who are making this webpage, which we all have enjoyed for nearly a decade an uncomfortable place to visit. Calling people an idiot for being wrong makes this community hostile. You frequently do this and I assure you, it doesn’t make ME look bad when you call me an idiot.
_____________

Dude, you&#039;ve been reading these comments for 10 years and this is what offends you? It&#039;s much more tame than it used to be. Anyway, I apologize for the negativity. In my defense, the comment was so dumb that I assumed it was Carl Gerbschmidt who made it so my response was just a kneejerk reaction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topher says:<br />
Aug 3, 2011 8:34 AM<br />
Stranger, I stand corrected you were the picture of etiquette and not at all a tough guy or a troll. And when you called me an idiot I instinctively knew that you meant “dude, you are mistaken.”</p>
<p>See, there is an ever increasing number of posters, such as yourself, who are making this webpage, which we all have enjoyed for nearly a decade an uncomfortable place to visit. Calling people an idiot for being wrong makes this community hostile. You frequently do this and I assure you, it doesn’t make ME look bad when you call me an idiot.<br />
_____________</p>
<p>Dude, you&#8217;ve been reading these comments for 10 years and this is what offends you? It&#8217;s much more tame than it used to be. Anyway, I apologize for the negativity. In my defense, the comment was so dumb that I assumed it was Carl Gerbschmidt who made it so my response was just a kneejerk reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: purpwalk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purpwalk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[par for the course for a newly-minted head coach and it will serve him well, i’m sure. if fraz wants a long career as a HC, like his good friend tony dungy, he had no choice in this situation. bmac should’ve known this, but he’s too arrogant

it would’ve been better if bmac had come back in shape and contributed. instead, he came back close to 400 lbs., and then wouldn’t cut his pay, so he forced the vikes to make a move

rosenhaus could have monitored his client, bmac, during the off-season, and had a duty to do so, imo, especially considering bmac’s irresponsible and immature character and the fact that the coaches couldn’t perform the implementing and monitoring of bmac’s physical conditioning

rosengreedinhaus should’ve known all this, and counseled his player accordingly, but he’s too arrogant, too]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>par for the course for a newly-minted head coach and it will serve him well, i’m sure. if fraz wants a long career as a HC, like his good friend tony dungy, he had no choice in this situation. bmac should’ve known this, but he’s too arrogant</p>
<p>it would’ve been better if bmac had come back in shape and contributed. instead, he came back close to 400 lbs., and then wouldn’t cut his pay, so he forced the vikes to make a move</p>
<p>rosenhaus could have monitored his client, bmac, during the off-season, and had a duty to do so, imo, especially considering bmac’s irresponsible and immature character and the fact that the coaches couldn’t perform the implementing and monitoring of bmac’s physical conditioning</p>
<p>rosengreedinhaus should’ve known all this, and counseled his player accordingly, but he’s too arrogant, too</p>
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		<title>By: zn0rseman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zn0rseman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Vikings are using 2011 to win in 2012.  This move helps to accomplish that goal regardless of whether one thinks that this move makes them better or worse for 2011.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vikings are using 2011 to win in 2012.  This move helps to accomplish that goal regardless of whether one thinks that this move makes them better or worse for 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: tombradysponytail</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/02/vikings-get-a-bargain-in-charlie-johnson/#comment-1170899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tombradysponytail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha. 

You guys are so far gone, you turned Carl into the voice of reason!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha. </p>
<p>You guys are so far gone, you turned Carl into the voice of reason!</p>
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		<title>By: carlgerbschmidt</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys are like the freakin hyenas in the Lion King.

By the way, if I were you I&#039;d be a little less worried about how much my OL are paid and a little more worried about how my new starting QB (and mentor to your future QB) can&#039;t pass up the opportunity to rip his two prior teams in the press - instead of focusing on his new team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are like the freakin hyenas in the Lion King.</p>
<p>By the way, if I were you I&#8217;d be a little less worried about how much my OL are paid and a little more worried about how my new starting QB (and mentor to your future QB) can&#8217;t pass up the opportunity to rip his two prior teams in the press &#8211; instead of focusing on his new team.</p>
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		<title>By: favreblows</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[favreblows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Paul Hargis---Apology noted.  No thanks on the offer to become friends.  I am quite satisfied with my personal life outside of PFT, and am not really interested in using this blog as a method to gain buddies.  Sorry.

I think we are all clear on the fact that the Vikings have downgraded at LT and are in huge trouble with their OL.  Check out Jim Souhan&#039;s column in the Strib this morning:

&quot;Myth No. 2:  The Vikings, two years after playing in the NFC Championship Game and in the midst of groveling for a new stadium, would do everything within their power to win this year.  The release of McKinnie destroys those notions.&quot;

&quot;Despite his many flaws, McKinnie was a good player at a vital position.  Without him, the Vikings offensive line, already a source of concern, could be quite mediocre.  On this team, one dependent on running back Adrian Peterson and forced to break in two new quarterbacks, it could be fatal.&quot;

&quot;He (Frasier) will be willing to sacrifice victories to instill his culture.&quot;

&quot;By making such a drastic decision, Frasier diminished his chances of winning this season.&quot;

&quot;The decision might have been more difficult if the Vikings were on the verge of a run to the Super Bowl.  They are not.  They are trying to rebuild on the fly, while remaining competitive, which is the most difficult trick in pro sports.&quot;

***I have been saying for weeks that the Vikings need to blow up this team and rebuild.  Frasier gets that.  He has the job security to start over and that is what he is doing.  If he really had guts, he would convince Spielman and Wilf to trade AP.  It is a waste to have the best RB in the league on a team that will have trouble finding six wins this year.  Trade him for a couple of first round draft picks and start thinking about 2013-2015.  That&#039;s essentially what Thompson did and look how that turned out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Paul Hargis&#8212;Apology noted.  No thanks on the offer to become friends.  I am quite satisfied with my personal life outside of PFT, and am not really interested in using this blog as a method to gain buddies.  Sorry.</p>
<p>I think we are all clear on the fact that the Vikings have downgraded at LT and are in huge trouble with their OL.  Check out Jim Souhan&#8217;s column in the Strib this morning:</p>
<p>&#8220;Myth No. 2:  The Vikings, two years after playing in the NFC Championship Game and in the midst of groveling for a new stadium, would do everything within their power to win this year.  The release of McKinnie destroys those notions.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Despite his many flaws, McKinnie was a good player at a vital position.  Without him, the Vikings offensive line, already a source of concern, could be quite mediocre.  On this team, one dependent on running back Adrian Peterson and forced to break in two new quarterbacks, it could be fatal.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;He (Frasier) will be willing to sacrifice victories to instill his culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;By making such a drastic decision, Frasier diminished his chances of winning this season.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The decision might have been more difficult if the Vikings were on the verge of a run to the Super Bowl.  They are not.  They are trying to rebuild on the fly, while remaining competitive, which is the most difficult trick in pro sports.&#8221;</p>
<p>***I have been saying for weeks that the Vikings need to blow up this team and rebuild.  Frasier gets that.  He has the job security to start over and that is what he is doing.  If he really had guts, he would convince Spielman and Wilf to trade AP.  It is a waste to have the best RB in the league on a team that will have trouble finding six wins this year.  Trade him for a couple of first round draft picks and start thinking about 2013-2015.  That&#8217;s essentially what Thompson did and look how that turned out.</p>
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		<title>By: tombradysponytail</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thephantomstranger says: 
Aug 2, 2011 11:47 PM 

Pardon me for trying to help you understand something you obviously have a hard time understanding. You went two days thinking the Vikings gave a mediocre offensive lineman $72 million, and you were the only one on Earth who thought that for even one second. All I did was point out the obvious, which you seem to have some trouble grasping.

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C&#039;mon phantom, we&#039;re talking about the vikes, I&#039;m sure there are lots of people who would believe they would pay such a sum for Charlie Johnson. They like to overpay for untalented players, for some reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thephantomstranger says:<br />
Aug 2, 2011 11:47 PM </p>
<p>Pardon me for trying to help you understand something you obviously have a hard time understanding. You went two days thinking the Vikings gave a mediocre offensive lineman $72 million, and you were the only one on Earth who thought that for even one second. All I did was point out the obvious, which you seem to have some trouble grasping.</p>
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<p>C&#8217;mon phantom, we&#8217;re talking about the vikes, I&#8217;m sure there are lots of people who would believe they would pay such a sum for Charlie Johnson. They like to overpay for untalented players, for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: tombradysponytail</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[paulharghis says: 
Aug 3, 2011 7:26 AM 

Maybe if I didn’t make you look dumb so may times and hurt your feelings, we could be freinds.

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You frequently refer to your &quot;freinds&quot; [SIC] on here - either in the context of freindships that were damaged beyond repair (e.g., supersuckers) or something that could be seen as a blossoming freindship, if only the individual in question weren&#039;t &quot;so dumb.&quot; 

I find it a little puzzling. I do hope you have freinds in the real world, and not just freindships on pft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paulharghis says:<br />
Aug 3, 2011 7:26 AM </p>
<p>Maybe if I didn’t make you look dumb so may times and hurt your feelings, we could be freinds.</p>
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<p>You frequently refer to your &#8220;freinds&#8221; [SIC] on here &#8211; either in the context of freindships that were damaged beyond repair (e.g., supersuckers) or something that could be seen as a blossoming freindship, if only the individual in question weren&#8217;t &#8220;so dumb.&#8221; </p>
<p>I find it a little puzzling. I do hope you have freinds in the real world, and not just freindships on pft.</p>
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		<title>By: Topher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Topher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 12:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[db1141, you have some points. Ryan Lilja was cut last year and had a great year.

Hayden hasn&#039;t played yet since being cut, hasn&#039;t even signed yet.

Your list of players is heavy on players that were cut 4 or more years ago.  8 or so years ago in the case of Washington and Peterson.

I guess &quot;play&quot; is a relative term, I wouldn&#039;t call Raheem Brock a player.  9 sacks is good, but he is more of a role guy than a starting guy.  Nor would I call David Thornton or Nick Harper players.  All of those guys (and I would put Johnson in this category) are guys that are good enough to hold the position down until something better comes along.

I would want something a little better than that from a free agent signing (and $3m a year IS cheap for a LT but its about correct for a G, which Johnson truly is... and I&#039;m a little bitter the Colts wouldn&#039;t fork over a fair contract for Johnson... it makes me feel better thinking he must not be as good as I hoped he would be)

Still, you made a good point that there are guys out there but I still stand by my larger point that players let go by the Colts (and the other upper echelon teams as well) tend to not play as well (or at all) for other teams.

Stranger, I stand corrected you were the picture of etiquette and not at all a tough guy or a troll.  And when you called me an idiot I instinctively knew that you meant &quot;dude, you are mistaken.&quot;

See, there is an ever increasing number of posters, such as yourself, who are making this webpage, which we all have enjoyed for nearly a decade an uncomfortable place to visit.  Calling people an idiot for being wrong makes this community hostile.  You frequently do this and I assure you, it doesn&#039;t make ME look bad when you call me an idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>db1141, you have some points. Ryan Lilja was cut last year and had a great year.</p>
<p>Hayden hasn&#8217;t played yet since being cut, hasn&#8217;t even signed yet.</p>
<p>Your list of players is heavy on players that were cut 4 or more years ago.  8 or so years ago in the case of Washington and Peterson.</p>
<p>I guess &#8220;play&#8221; is a relative term, I wouldn&#8217;t call Raheem Brock a player.  9 sacks is good, but he is more of a role guy than a starting guy.  Nor would I call David Thornton or Nick Harper players.  All of those guys (and I would put Johnson in this category) are guys that are good enough to hold the position down until something better comes along.</p>
<p>I would want something a little better than that from a free agent signing (and $3m a year IS cheap for a LT but its about correct for a G, which Johnson truly is&#8230; and I&#8217;m a little bitter the Colts wouldn&#8217;t fork over a fair contract for Johnson&#8230; it makes me feel better thinking he must not be as good as I hoped he would be)</p>
<p>Still, you made a good point that there are guys out there but I still stand by my larger point that players let go by the Colts (and the other upper echelon teams as well) tend to not play as well (or at all) for other teams.</p>
<p>Stranger, I stand corrected you were the picture of etiquette and not at all a tough guy or a troll.  And when you called me an idiot I instinctively knew that you meant &#8220;dude, you are mistaken.&#8221;</p>
<p>See, there is an ever increasing number of posters, such as yourself, who are making this webpage, which we all have enjoyed for nearly a decade an uncomfortable place to visit.  Calling people an idiot for being wrong makes this community hostile.  You frequently do this and I assure you, it doesn&#8217;t make ME look bad when you call me an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: paulharghis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YIKES.
I never said they didn&#039;t downgrade you imbecile.
I said it was a move a long time in coming and necessary for the team to move on. It betters the team in th long run.
Your point that I responded to, was that I would think it was a great move. Do you follow? Get lost? need a navigator?
Your talent &quot;evaluation&quot; aside,  Minnesota will be just fine at that position.

Uff, your attemt at humor is lamer than your knowledge of football.

In your rush to &quot;try&quot; to make me look bad, you show your lack of reading comprhension.

Maybe if I didn&#039;t make you look dumb so may times and hurt your feelings, we could be freinds.

I&#039;m sorry moron. That better?

By the way, your words and phrasing give you away completely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YIKES.<br />
I never said they didn&#8217;t downgrade you imbecile.<br />
I said it was a move a long time in coming and necessary for the team to move on. It betters the team in th long run.<br />
Your point that I responded to, was that I would think it was a great move. Do you follow? Get lost? need a navigator?<br />
Your talent &#8220;evaluation&#8221; aside,  Minnesota will be just fine at that position.</p>
<p>Uff, your attemt at humor is lamer than your knowledge of football.</p>
<p>In your rush to &#8220;try&#8221; to make me look bad, you show your lack of reading comprhension.</p>
<p>Maybe if I didn&#8217;t make you look dumb so may times and hurt your feelings, we could be freinds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry moron. That better?</p>
<p>By the way, your words and phrasing give you away completely.</p>
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		<title>By: brewdogg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewdogg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love all the Packer fans bashing Johnson.  I think they&#039;re just glad to see McKinnie go.  For all their gum-flapping about how terrible McKinnie was (before Johnson was signed and he was cut, of course...), I&#039;m sure they know that their golden boy Matthews has 1 sack in 4 games against McKinnie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all the Packer fans bashing Johnson.  I think they&#8217;re just glad to see McKinnie go.  For all their gum-flapping about how terrible McKinnie was (before Johnson was signed and he was cut, of course&#8230;), I&#8217;m sure they know that their golden boy Matthews has 1 sack in 4 games against McKinnie.</p>
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		<title>By: croghan1919</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 05:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@gumberculez
&quot;Sorry, croghan1919 but Manning didn’t take so few sacks because of his OL. He was constantly under pressure all season. His quick release and pocket presence kept him from getting sacked for the most part. Charlie Johnson has versatility, but LT is the wrong spot for him. If he is not playing G or RT then he is a very subpar starter, otherwise just average.
Sorry,
Read my post again.
I don&#039;t/didn&#039;t disagree with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gumberculez<br />
&#8220;Sorry, croghan1919 but Manning didn’t take so few sacks because of his OL. He was constantly under pressure all season. His quick release and pocket presence kept him from getting sacked for the most part. Charlie Johnson has versatility, but LT is the wrong spot for him. If he is not playing G or RT then he is a very subpar starter, otherwise just average.<br />
Sorry,<br />
Read my post again.<br />
I don&#8217;t/didn&#8217;t disagree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: favreblows</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/02/vikings-get-a-bargain-in-charlie-johnson/#comment-1169990</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 04:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[db1141 says:Aug 2, 2011 10:41 PM 

favreblows correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t they just draft a tackle in the 1st rd.? Wouldn’t that be a pretty good replacement and give the colts a reason not to pay millions to a potential backup?


***Yes they did, but they likely have serious concerns about him coming in and being an effective starter this year.  Afterall, he is a rookie, and due to the lockout, they have no idea what to expect of him.  Second, the contract Johnson signed with the Queens was pretty cheap and the guy can play more than one position.  So, the Colts clearly did not make their decision based on dollars so much as the fact that the guy just isn&#039;t any good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>db1141 says:Aug 2, 2011 10:41 PM </p>
<p>favreblows correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t they just draft a tackle in the 1st rd.? Wouldn’t that be a pretty good replacement and give the colts a reason not to pay millions to a potential backup?</p>
<p>***Yes they did, but they likely have serious concerns about him coming in and being an effective starter this year.  Afterall, he is a rookie, and due to the lockout, they have no idea what to expect of him.  Second, the contract Johnson signed with the Queens was pretty cheap and the guy can play more than one position.  So, the Colts clearly did not make their decision based on dollars so much as the fact that the guy just isn&#8217;t any good.</p>
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		<title>By: thephantomstranger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/02/vikings-get-a-bargain-in-charlie-johnson/#comment-1169954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thephantomstranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 04:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@favreblower -

I&#039;m not sure how a guy who has started 54 games at LT for one of the best teams in the league and is still only 27 is a downgrade from a 32-year-old, 400 lb., troublemaker who doesn&#039;t care about anything but rap music and tennis players with big butts. This is a transition year for the Vikes. They&#039;ll play Johnson at LT this year while they have to, draft a LT in the first round next year, and move Johnson to guard, which he&#039;s better suited to. Plus they save a ton of cash under the salary cap, allowing them to make other moves or give Adrian a nice new contract.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@favreblower -</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how a guy who has started 54 games at LT for one of the best teams in the league and is still only 27 is a downgrade from a 32-year-old, 400 lb., troublemaker who doesn&#8217;t care about anything but rap music and tennis players with big butts. This is a transition year for the Vikes. They&#8217;ll play Johnson at LT this year while they have to, draft a LT in the first round next year, and move Johnson to guard, which he&#8217;s better suited to. Plus they save a ton of cash under the salary cap, allowing them to make other moves or give Adrian a nice new contract.</p>
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		<title>By: favreblows</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/02/vikings-get-a-bargain-in-charlie-johnson/#comment-1169943</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[favreblows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Idiot--that&#039;s code for Paul Hargis--

Your explanation of your ridiculous point just further establishes that the Queens have downgraded at LT.  THAT was my point numbnuts.  Johnson could be a choir boy who never swears.....and if he allows McNabb to get killed.....it won&#039;t matter.  This is a league based on talent son.....and the Vikes have zero talent at left tackle right now.  Again, why would the Colts allow him to sign with Minnesota for a cheap contract if he had any ability whatsoever?  Why?  Because he sucks.....plain and simple.

Your mother must have dropped you on  your head when  you were a small child.......multiple times........on purpose........probably because you&#039;re so ugly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiot&#8211;that&#8217;s code for Paul Hargis&#8211;</p>
<p>Your explanation of your ridiculous point just further establishes that the Queens have downgraded at LT.  THAT was my point numbnuts.  Johnson could be a choir boy who never swears&#8230;..and if he allows McNabb to get killed&#8230;..it won&#8217;t matter.  This is a league based on talent son&#8230;..and the Vikes have zero talent at left tackle right now.  Again, why would the Colts allow him to sign with Minnesota for a cheap contract if he had any ability whatsoever?  Why?  Because he sucks&#8230;..plain and simple.</p>
<p>Your mother must have dropped you on  your head when  you were a small child&#8230;&#8230;.multiple times&#8230;&#8230;..on purpose&#8230;&#8230;..probably because you&#8217;re so ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: thephantomstranger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/02/vikings-get-a-bargain-in-charlie-johnson/#comment-1169935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thephantomstranger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Topher says: 
Aug 2, 2011 9:28 PM 
It’s been brought to my attention that the 72m reported was from the other Charles Johnson. My bad.

I figure I would say something before the Internet tough guys jack themselves into a fever over my mistake. I’m looking at you “stranger”
___________

Pardon me for trying to help you understand something you obviously have a hard time understanding. You went two days thinking the Vikings gave a mediocre offensive lineman $72 million, and you were the only one on Earth who thought that for even one second. All I did was point out the obvious, which you seem to have some trouble grasping.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topher says:<br />
Aug 2, 2011 9:28 PM<br />
It’s been brought to my attention that the 72m reported was from the other Charles Johnson. My bad.</p>
<p>I figure I would say something before the Internet tough guys jack themselves into a fever over my mistake. I’m looking at you “stranger”<br />
___________</p>
<p>Pardon me for trying to help you understand something you obviously have a hard time understanding. You went two days thinking the Vikings gave a mediocre offensive lineman $72 million, and you were the only one on Earth who thought that for even one second. All I did was point out the obvious, which you seem to have some trouble grasping.</p>
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		<title>By: colts609</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[colts609]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[croghan1919, Johnson allowed 6 of those 16....here&#039;s to hoping your QB has the same field awareness as Peyton]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>croghan1919, Johnson allowed 6 of those 16&#8230;.here&#8217;s to hoping your QB has the same field awareness as Peyton</p>
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		<title>By: colts609</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/02/vikings-get-a-bargain-in-charlie-johnson/#comment-1169903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[colts609]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ryan Diem is still a Colt and has been recently resigned..Jake Scott and Ryan Lilja may be better examples]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Diem is still a Colt and has been recently resigned..Jake Scott and Ryan Lilja may be better examples</p>
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		<title>By: gumberculez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gumberculez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;How many sacks did Manning take last year?
16…..tied for 2nd best in the league.
Vikes fans will find out about CJ soon enough…..dammit!!&quot;

Sorry, croghan1919 but Manning didn&#039;t take so few sacks because of his OL.  He was constantly under pressure all season.  His quick release and pocket presence kept him from getting sacked for the most part.  Charlie Johnson has versatility, but LT is the wrong spot for him.  If he is not playing G or RT then he is a very subpar starter, otherwise just average.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How many sacks did Manning take last year?<br />
16…..tied for 2nd best in the league.<br />
Vikes fans will find out about CJ soon enough…..dammit!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, croghan1919 but Manning didn&#8217;t take so few sacks because of his OL.  He was constantly under pressure all season.  His quick release and pocket presence kept him from getting sacked for the most part.  Charlie Johnson has versatility, but LT is the wrong spot for him.  If he is not playing G or RT then he is a very subpar starter, otherwise just average.</p>
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		<title>By: sevensixtwonato</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sevensixtwonato]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[favreblows says: 
Aug 2, 2011 8:29 PM 
They didn’t get a bargain. They got a horsesh!t left tackle. McKinnie is a dirt bag and deserved to be cut, but the Vikings are now worse off at LT. THAT is the reason he was so cheap. Hell…the Colts cut ties with the guy because they didn’t want to pay him as much as the Queens. What does that tell you? The usual idiots (Paul Hargis for sure) will hail this decision. But anybody that knows football knows that the Vikings OL just got worse. Favre got killed last year and AP never had holes. Look forward to more of the same Viking fans.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>favreblows says:<br />
Aug 2, 2011 8:29 PM<br />
They didn’t get a bargain. They got a horsesh!t left tackle. McKinnie is a dirt bag and deserved to be cut, but the Vikings are now worse off at LT. THAT is the reason he was so cheap. Hell…the Colts cut ties with the guy because they didn’t want to pay him as much as the Queens. What does that tell you? The usual idiots (Paul Hargis for sure) will hail this decision. But anybody that knows football knows that the Vikings OL just got worse. Favre got killed last year and AP never had holes. Look forward to more of the same Viking fans.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Wow&#8230;.you&#8217;re an idiot</p>
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		<title>By: db1141</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[db1141]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[favreblows correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but didn&#039;t they just draft a tackle in the 1st rd.?  Wouldn&#039;t that be a pretty good replacement and give the colts a reason not to pay millions to a potential backup?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>favreblows correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but didn&#8217;t they just draft a tackle in the 1st rd.?  Wouldn&#8217;t that be a pretty good replacement and give the colts a reason not to pay millions to a potential backup?</p>
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		<title>By: db1141</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[db1141]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 02:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[topher you asked when was the last time te colts let someone go that could still play............how about marcus wahington,nick harper, mike peterson, ryan diem, raheem brock,kelvin hayden, david thornton, and the list can go on!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>topher you asked when was the last time te colts let someone go that could still play&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;how about marcus wahington,nick harper, mike peterson, ryan diem, raheem brock,kelvin hayden, david thornton, and the list can go on!!!</p>
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