Comments on: Broncos done with major player moves, including at quarterback http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Sat, 25 May 2013 15:47:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: MichaelEdits http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1172930 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:48:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1172930 Tebow might be able to backup Vick and Young. He’s probably not so good at backing up a traditional passer, any more than a traditional passer could be his backup. Meanwhile I’d be looking at all the baggage the guy’s carrying, and just cut him and badmouth my predecessor.

]]> By: forevercorr http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1172104 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:53:40 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1172104 Let’s see…
Denver needed to improve on defense and special teams in the off-season and enable the offense to shift from a throw first, run never offense to a more balanced, run first offense… so…
1. We draft one of the three best defensive players in the draft, along with a high-ceiling safety duo, a promising MLB, an underrated DE, secure team leadership in Dawkins and Bailey, bring a healthy Dumervil back in, and pull in two DTs who may not have high recognition but improve the line, as well as a smattering of depth on the D-line. (Defense improved)
2. Draft TEs and safeties that may specifically work on special teams this year, as well as a new FA returner. (Special teams improved)
3. Bring in McGahee to compliment a physically more stout Moreno (The combo should be called M&Ms, because they’re sweet) and then bring in an UDFA to add depth and a pair of FA TEs that improve the line, not to mention a mauler at RT, all without damaging the ranks of the passing game (running game improved)

So, I’m not seeing how EFX hasn’t done their job this off season. Meanwhile, KC improved slightly (will probably win the division again this year) and San Diego and Oakland have got worse… umm… I’m not too sad.

]]> By: lilrob10201 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171904 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:55:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171904 The Broncos made a big move ?

]]> By: dmitchell624 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171848 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:37:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171848 Here is the problem with “sports journalism”

The headline is definitive “Broncos done with major player moves, including at quarterback”

The first line says the opposite: Denver likely wrapped up their big free agent acquisitions on Tuesday night when they signed Ty Warren.

They are done or is it “likely”?

]]> By: chobes68 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171767 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:20:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171767 “djteknision1200 says:
Aug 3, 2011 2:01 PM
Yeah…sure they are. They have 3 QB’s getting paid like first rounders and none of them are worthy.. Bad business!!”

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So Orton isn’t better than at half the starters in the league? He’s clearly proven he’s a starting qb, and had some good success. While he’s not at the level of a Brady, Brees, or Rodgers, he is certainly good enough to start and win games.

]]> By: chobes68 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171747 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:16:38 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171747 “Orton does not have the fire that you want in a QB. He seems to relaxed when it comes to crunch time. Tebow does not have the mechanics but has that fire. With that said, and with science not advanced enough to get the best out of the both of them and combine it into one, I was hoping for Ortoan trade, Tebow getting his shot to see what he has or doesn’t. If he couldn’t produce, Andrew Luck would be well within our grasp.

GO BRONCOS!!!”

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That’s what you base it on? Fire?

I don’t want an emotional guy at that position. I want a player who keeps their cool. Fire is good when its a physical position, but not one, at least IMO, where much of it is mental as it is physical.

If Fox wants to be competitive, he needs to hold onto Orton until they’re either overwhelmed with an offer, ie 1st rd pick, or Tebow clearly shows he can consistently throw the ball like a starting NFL qb. No one doubts the guys heart, but this isn’t college anymore. You aren’t going to run over linebackers, because you’re bigger, stronger, and faster than them, and you’re team is stacked that much more. Everything is flipped in the NFL.

]]> By: wright24 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171735 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:14:19 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171735 Andrew Luck?

]]> By: chobes68 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171722 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:11:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171722 “southbeachtalent says:
Aug 3, 2011 2:40 PM
305fan, you get it. These dolphin fans screaming for Orton are desperate and just down right ignorant. What the hell has Orton done his whole career? Nothing. Henne? Nothing, but he’s only started for 1.5 years with a horrible OC. Lets give this guy a chance with the new system before we trade our future for neckbeard.

As far as Denver, I can’t believe they were actually willing to let Tebow start! I’m sure they miss Cutler right about now.”

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Orton’s been pretty good, especially in Denver. Although I agree with you in that they should give Henne some more time. They’re primarily a running team anyways, and teams like that usually means one of two things:
1. They qb isn’t good enough to win games by himself,
and
2. They’re looking for a guy to manage the game for them, while they run the ball.

]]> By: chobes68 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171711 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:09:09 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171711 “I don’t understand why Bronco fans hate Orton so much.”

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The backup qb is usually the most popular player on the team, unless your qb is Brees, Rodgers, Brady, etc.

Orton was the fav in Chicago, but then again they had Grossman..who must have had pictures of Lovie with farm animals, allowing him to stay the starter.

]]> By: jebdamone http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171707 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:08:28 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171707 i have never gotten all the orton hate. the guy does not seem like a born winner or an mvp or anything, but he also is an above average starting QB in this league right now. ive never understood why teams have bent over backwards to not give him a chance. from what i have seen and read throughout his career with the bears and the broncos he has been nothing but a professional and has played well when given the shot.

]]> By: ampking101 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171654 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:50:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171654 jpmelon says: Aug 3, 2011 1:25 PM

“I don’t understand why Bronco fans hate Orton so much.”

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It’s because Tebow was picked up WAY too high in the draft. Even Colt McCoy was projected to go above him. So the Broncos fans see him as their savior as sorts. Tebow did very well in college but a lot of people forget that college football and the NFL are very different. Sometimes you see the best college player fail big in the NFL and sometimes you see a lot of nobodies turn out to be some of the biggest stars. Orton is a better QB all around. The reason he was sat was because as a first time starter he actually did really well, he just hasn’t had time to develop his reaction to big pressure and that is why after playing so well the entire season, he began to do badly the last couple games.

No matter what though, Orton’s talent is worth it’s weight as a starter in the NFL. Tebow on the other hand hasn’t had the same pressure especially as a starter (can you say Kevin Kob, 400 yards passing his first game as a back-up now look at him) Tebow may prove me wrong but I still think he is a RB/FB that has the ability to make a throw here or there.

]]> By: southbeachtalent http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171618 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:40:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171618 305fan, you get it. These dolphin fans screaming for Orton are desperate and just down right ignorant. What the hell has Orton done his whole career? Nothing. Henne? Nothing, but he’s only started for 1.5 years with a horrible OC. Lets give this guy a chance with the new system before we trade our future for neckbeard.

As far as Denver, I can’t believe they were actually willing to let Tebow start! I’m sure they miss Cutler right about now.

]]> By: elwaybradyandy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171573 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:30:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171573 Orton does not have the fire that you want in a QB. He seems to relaxed when it comes to crunch time. Tebow does not have the mechanics but has that fire. With that said, and with science not advanced enough to get the best out of the both of them and combine it into one, I was hoping for Ortoan trade, Tebow getting his shot to see what he has or doesn’t. If he couldn’t produce, Andrew Luck would be well within our grasp.

GO BRONCOS!!!

]]> By: 305fan http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171554 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:23:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171554 Thank you Denver. As a Miami fan I feel Henne is just as good or bad. I’m just tired of trading picks for QB’s only to end up mediocre.

]]> By: scoops1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171546 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:19:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171546 is it too late to give Jake Plummber a call???

]]> By: nahcouldntbethat http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171542 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:18:14 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171542 Really glad to see Ty Warren signed outside the AFC East. I was worried the Pats would get him back on a cheap contract if nobody else bid on him.

]]> By: mmmpieyummy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171511 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:10:33 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171511 Damn it…trade Orton already! I so want to see Teblow fail and then hear all his supporters cry like little girls…please make it happen!

]]> By: ezmoover http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171506 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:08:52 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171506 Signing a bunch of former draft busts and almost washed up veterans is always a formula for success.

]]> By: AlanSaysYo http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171503 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:08:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171503 So who’s going to coach the Dolphins next year?

]]> By: southcakpanther http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171485 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:02:19 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171485 Get ready for “It is what it is” Denver. He had some decent years here and I will always appreciate him for those times, but I’m glad Fox is gone.

]]> By: djteknision1200 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171484 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:01:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171484 Yeah…sure they are. They have 3 QB’s getting paid like first rounders and none of them are worthy.. Bad business!!

]]> By: ccraig232 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171474 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 18:00:03 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171474 I am a big Tebow fan and I can even admit that Orton gives the Broncos a better shot to win this year. I do believe Tebow has a bright future in the NFL and will be a starting qb. Sitting behind Orton for another year or even 2 is only going to benefit him in the long term. Tebow has already shown he can make the big play in the 4th quarter but he needs to improve on what he does in the first 3. He can’t do that by being thrown out into live action. He is still raw and still needs practice to improve his passing game. Only time will tell if he improves it enough to be a starting qb in the league but there is no doubt he is going to bust his tail to try and accomplish that.

]]> By: davikes http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171445 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:52:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171445 I think Bronco’s fans hate Orton because he’s not Elway. Given the team last year, with a beat up line, non-existant running game, basically unknown receivers, poor defense, coaching changes, etc. Orton had an amazing year. This season I hope they will be more competent on D. With a new offensive system, Thomas still nursing a sore foot, losing a starting o-lineman, the offense will struggle. Everyone else in their division has much more momentum, so the Bronco’s will finish last again. They might split with the Raiders, but who wouldn’t pick the Chargers and Chiefs to sweep?

]]> By: foradenverbroncotouchdown http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171435 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:49:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171435 pacash80 says:

“Orton > Tebow

That being said, Denver will still have a losing season. Quote me on that. Let the hate begin.”

of course they’ll have a losing season, shortened off-season with a new head coach after 4-12 and the worst defense in the league. They’re on their way though, they weren’t going to attract any major FA’s after last year. Another year of rebuilding and hopefully some continuity defensive coordinator will do them well.

It’s just a game of hurry up and wait now, with Miller/Doom together for a year and some new blood on D.

]]> By: locuno1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171430 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:48:43 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171430 Orton is way better then that scrub Tebow but it’s hard to showcase your talents when your offensive line gives up 34 sacks and you have no running game. Not to mention the defense didn’t help win any games either.

]]> By: wright24 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171426 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:47:14 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171426 I’ve been a Denver fan my whole life, granted I’m only twenty I know football, played it throughout my life and am excited Orton will be with us. I was furious when we traded in to get Tebow, and I will not praise him like everyone else until he actually does something. Orton isn’t the reason we lost so many games, our defense was awful. Get that situated and have a run game and Orton will put up bigger numbers than he already has.

]]> By: bigbeefyd http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171423 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:46:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171423 We won’t be trading anybody. Orton’s contract is up after this year. We either re-sign him as our long-term guy, or he walks and we get nothing.

]]> By: BroncoNick http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171418 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:44:39 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171418 Great…. Thanks EFX! Orton should have never come to camp….
Would’ve been nice to get a DT that’s actually good in FA…. But instead I see we’re vested in mediocrity with Orton.
Perfect!
Very disappointing….

]]> By: nav711 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171414 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:43:05 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171414 Miami had a chance to get Orton. Now they’re screwed.

]]> By: jaypace http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/broncos-done-with-major-player-moves-including-at-quarterback/#comment-1171412 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:42:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=144857#comment-1171412 Tebow will be playing when this team is 2-7

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