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Even more clarity that Kyle Orton is The Man in Denver

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We don’t know if the Broncos just wanted to get the word out or what, but it’s probably not a coincidence that ESPN and NFL Network both came out with declarative statements regarding Kyle Orton on Wednesday.

“[Orton] will be the starter in Denver. He will not be traded,” Mike Lombardi said Wednesday, echoing an item we mentioned from Adam Schefter earlier in the day.

NFL Network’s Twitter feed took the report at step further, saying the Broncos told Orton he’s not going anywhere.  (It’s unclear if they got more information from Lombardi, or whether they heard him wrong on air.)

So why do we need so much clarity on August 3? Isn’t it obvious enough Orton is the guy considering he’s getting all the first team reps?

We wonder if the Broncos brass is sending a message here to their fans and to their players.  They are addressing “The Tebow Thing.”  They are declaring a leader.

Lombardi doesn’t think Tebow will ultimately get a fair chance in Denver.

“He’s in limbo right now. I said all offseason I thought Tim Tebow wasn’t in their plans. . . I think ultimately he is not in their plans,” he said.

Actions speak louder than words and Tebow clearly isn’t in the team’s plans to start Week One. One thing that Lombardi has repeated resonates with us more than anything.

Tebow is a quarterback that you are either all in with or not. You can’t be half in. You build your offense around him or not.

Josh McDaniels was all in, but he was fired before he could ever do anything about it. It’s very early, but so far John Fox doesn’t look like he’s all in.

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  1. baned0n says: Aug 3, 2011 4:06 PM

    If Denver loves Orton so much, why all the talk about trading him?

  2. footballfanatic3431 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:06 PM

    What a huge mistake. Why would they tell Orton he is the starter and won’t be traded before they even get to see Tim in 1 pre season game.

  3. iamgoodkid says: Aug 3, 2011 4:06 PM

    yeah so orton could have been a falcon a backup QB in atlanta so what dolphins

  4. mpjets says: Aug 3, 2011 4:07 PM

    finally a wise choice from this organization. tebow should stick to the peace corps and stopping abortion. politics might be in this guys future but an nfl starting role is not

  5. touchdownroddywhite says: Aug 3, 2011 4:07 PM

    Tim Tebow’s career took the same turn as Brady Quinn’s the minute McD was fired.

    Sorry for those with Tebow-mania, but it’s game over…

  6. steel6times says: Aug 3, 2011 4:07 PM

    Tebow is not going to be a successful QB. He is too good at throwing lame ducks.

  7. fwippel says: Aug 3, 2011 4:09 PM

    I find it hard to believe that Tebow won’t get a fair chance in Denver. If he plays better at the QB position than Orton, he’ll win the starting job.

    It wouldn’t be the first time an established starter got beaten out by an up-and-coming youngster. But don’t beat up the Broncos for starting their best QB. It’s not like John Fox drafted Tebow.

  8. bhenryman says: Aug 3, 2011 4:09 PM

    If i was a denver fan i want to see what my first round pick at QB has now, orton is a good QB but hes not elite, not saying tebow is either but when you have luck coming out next year i want to know if tebow is the future give him a chance. worst case you have the worst record in the league and hit the lottery with luck lol

  9. hystoracle says: Aug 3, 2011 4:10 PM

    send Tebow to Jax. Will help them sell tix.

  10. thephantomstranger says: Aug 3, 2011 4:11 PM

    Last week they were trying like crazy to trade the guy, now this week he’s their starter and Tebow is done? I’m not sure it’s as clearcut as it seems.

  11. trollhammer20 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:11 PM

    So, in the end, McDaniels wasted two #1 draft picks in his brief tenure in Denver.

    First there was the pick that McDaniels traded to Seattle (who drafted Earl Thomas with it) to get that midget CB who was cut from the team last year, and picked up by the Lions.

    Then, there was the Tebow pick.

    As a Seahawks fan, I find myself hoping Spagnolo fails and they promote McDaniels to head coach / GM…

  12. offsideburns says: Aug 3, 2011 4:11 PM

    just wait til the whistle blows and the first pass is a pick 6

  13. profootballwalk says: Aug 3, 2011 4:11 PM

    So if you’re all in for Tebow and he gets hurt, then what do you do? You’d need a backup QB who was just like Tebow to run the offense. Not a plan.

  14. realnflmaster says: Aug 3, 2011 4:12 PM

    Silly eagirls. Championships are for Gods team, the Dallas Cowboys.

  15. djp519 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:12 PM

    I’m a big fan/supporter or Orton. Boiler Up!

    That said… can we please stop over-using the “all-in” phrase so much?!?

  16. biggerballz says: Aug 3, 2011 4:12 PM

    typical denver fans, spoiled by elway, don’t see how good orton is. i wish orton goes somewhere else besides the dolphins and you can enjoy tebowmania.

  17. packersareandwillalwaysbebetterthanthebears says: Aug 3, 2011 4:13 PM

    He is underrated, probably a good move.

  18. whoknowsnothing says: Aug 3, 2011 4:13 PM

    Soooooooooo your saying that Miami has a chance of getting him.

  19. iflounder says: Aug 3, 2011 4:13 PM

    i guess tebow did pick the correct time to write that book.

  20. asarabi says: Aug 3, 2011 4:14 PM

    No offense to the kid but Tebow should not be in any NFL’s teams plan. I know he loves Jesus and he’ll get your cat out of the tree for you but that doesn’t make him or entitle him to be considered a top 32 QB.

  21. captainslapnuts says: Aug 3, 2011 4:18 PM

    bhenryman says:
    Aug 3, 2011 4:09 PM
    If i was a denver fan i want to see what my first round pick at QB has now, orton is a good QB but hes not elite, not saying tebow is either but when you have luck coming out next year i want to know if tebow is the future give him a chance. worst case you have the worst record in the league and hit the lottery with luck lol

    ____

    Or best case, Orton takes you to the playoffs and then you can “see what you have with Tebow” in 2012.

  22. seahawksfan37 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:19 PM

    Denver wants to win. So Orton gives them the best opportunity right now.

  23. phillyisinvading says: Aug 3, 2011 4:19 PM

    andy reid said the same thing about kevin kolb last year.

    until he got hurt and vick stepped in and showed how it’s done.

  24. broncotis3000 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:20 PM

    Good move…..Let Orton play out his contract this season(whos knows what he can do with a real ground game)Let Tebow watch and contribute in different packages like last season..I think the lockout really ruined whatever chance Tebow had to be the starter this season….

  25. atlien698 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:20 PM

    The way Tebow skips his passes on the ground, perhaps he should play cricket…

  26. hobartbaker says: Aug 3, 2011 4:20 PM

    Tebow was the most productive offensive player in the league the last 3 games of the season, from a FF perspective. Which pretty much means he WAS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE OFFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE. In the only three games he has started in the NFL. On the second worst team in the entire league. Playing under a lame duck interim head coach who was sent right back into obscurity once the season ended. On a team that was deliberately trying to TANK THE SEASON. On the recommendation of their current head honcho for football operations.

    That is who Tim Tebow is. All three Bronco QBs are better than whoever ends up starting in Arizona, Carolina, Washington, and a few other places. Hopefully Tim T finds a better spot to live and work. Broncos are crap since Elway stuck his muzzle in the door.

  27. manderson367 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:21 PM

    Being a Broncos fan, I welcome the news. Orton is the better QB at this time. Another year of grooming should help Tebow. Although Tebow might not beat out Quinn for the #2 spot. If things go well, maybe they resign Orton, if not, he walks at the end of the season as a FA and it will be either Tebow or Quinn next year.

  28. jaredstill says: Aug 3, 2011 4:21 PM

    If this QB situation were anywhere else but Denver, you would consider it a really good situation: 3-yr starter, strong grasp of a complex offense, having improved every year, with 2 1st rounders competing behind him (total of only 17 NFL starts combined).

    If BQ shows the improvement he’s said to have shown so far in camp, you can trade him & continue to develop Tebow. If not, you’ve got a unique red-zone package type of QB and a servicable #3. Worse things have happened to 1st rd QB’s than to sit for a few years on an irrelevant team.

    It’s that nearly everything about the Denver QB position has been a circus since 2006, when Cutler was selected, and hung over Plummer until game 11. Magnify that by Tebow giant attraction (and polarization) and this is a circus combined with a dumpster fire…

    Personally, I think Tebow will benefit greatly from the Romo/Rogers/McNair experience of learning from the pine for a few years…and who knows, by that point maybe the circus will have left town.

  29. tyelee says: Aug 3, 2011 4:21 PM

    If Miami is so concerned with exciting their fan base they should try and trade to get Tebow….. Many in that state already love the guy and would love to see him back there!

    The fans most likely wouldn’t be so hostile against the team’s QB during their practices…

  30. jackfnburton says: Aug 3, 2011 4:22 PM

    Tebow IS getting a chance. And he’s not getting it done.

    This is why fans are fans and coaches are coaches, because fans think they have all the answers sitting up in the stands, but would have no clue what to do if you actually let them on the field.

    You don’t make a guy the starter to “see what he can do”. You make a guy the starter because he’s EARNED it in camp. Tebow is trying, but he’s not earning it right now.

  31. RussianBreadMaker says: Aug 3, 2011 4:23 PM

    Plus, isn’t it against Tebow’s religion to work on Sundays?

  32. rethinklogic says: Aug 3, 2011 4:23 PM

    i’d rather someone punch me in the face than have to read more about Orton/Tebow QB battle.

  33. buckybadger says: Aug 3, 2011 4:24 PM

    Trade Tebow now while he still can get you some value. Take anything. He isn’t a QB. The faster Denver moves on the better.

  34. buryyourduke says: Aug 3, 2011 4:25 PM

    Tebow should ask for a trade.

  35. atwatercrushesokoye says: Aug 3, 2011 4:28 PM

    Last week John Fox said that he wanted a “gamer” at QB, and that the preseason games would have a big role in it.

    In Orton they have a game manager a guy who can look good at times and put up good numbers but is nowhere to be found in the clutch situations, red zone, third downs and 4th quarter.

    In Tebow who knows what the Broncos have? But it’s probably best they find out this year. One of two things is going to happen, either you find out he can play QB and your set you go on rebuilding other parts of the team. Or you find out he can’t play and the Broncos end up with a high draft pick to draft their franchise QB in 2012.

    I’m wondering if the Broncos are just going to extremes here to try and leverage the Dolphins into making a deal or at least that’s what I’m hoping.

  36. andyreidisfat says: Aug 3, 2011 4:31 PM

    Has there ever been a QB with as much pressure and hype to be good in the NFL as Luck. The guy has had that lable for 2 years now and still has a full season left to go in college. I almost feel bad for the kid. He is the most hyped college football player since another stanford tree Elway.

    As far as Tebow goes. I don’t think Tebow will ever EVER win a MVP award but at the same time i have feeling that the guy will win atleast one title as a starter. I really do hate his whole goodie goodie god loving persona but at the same time there really is something bout the kid. When he plays the players around him just play better. But not in the typical Manning/ Brady way of making players better Tebow i guess inspires them more than his skill makes them look better.

    If i were the broncos i would have traded Orton for a 3rd and gave Tebow the shot. Like previous posters said worst comes to worst and you get Luck next year. I think what the Broncos are really afraid of is that Tebow will do nothing but win . And the fans will want to keep him in even though he really limits what you can do.

    If you put this kid on a team with a greta running game and defense and play almost a full time wildcat with him at QB or maybe even a option variation type deal i think he could be a real throw back and win lots of games. He such a big tough kid that seems to be made of rubber for the most, he just doesn’t get hurt and he runs over linemen.

    But if the broncos arn’t going to use I would ask him to atleast try to switch positions and become an H-back and see whats its like. Hes to good a person and player to not be on the field somewhere. If nothing else the Broncos have the number goalline QB in the nfl and should have no problem with short yardage with the ability to bring the kid in.

  37. dynast77 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:32 PM

    Is it me or do the Broncos seem committed to not winning?

  38. jacksaysfu says: Aug 3, 2011 4:34 PM

    Its not over for Tebow yet. Rodgers sat for 3 years before getting a shot, hell so did Kolb. He won’t ever be as good as AR but if he learns for another year or two he just might get a chance like Kolbs getting.

  39. scudbot says: Aug 3, 2011 4:35 PM

    Some rookie QBs are way better off sitting for a couple or three seasons. If Denver’s decided to develop Tebow, it’s not a bad idea. If Denver’s decided that Tebow will never be the guy, they ought to trade him but the timing is about as bad as it could right now. Plus they already have an expensive clipboard holder.

  40. 8drinkminimum says: Aug 3, 2011 4:37 PM

    Well Denver you just helped Miami in the long term.

    Either Henne plays above average or he is done at the end of this year which is also the end of his contract.

    If he is the same qb as in 2010 then the shakeup begins and the Fins use their first pick on a qb in 2012.

    Personally even if Henne plays well I go after Luck full go. The cost is now cheaper for a first pick salary and the fish have to get someone in to adapt in year one while so many of their players are getting into or will be in their prime years.

  41. kriswd40 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:40 PM

    If they aren’t going to use him, they should trade him ASAP while his value is higher. It’s only going to get lower if he spends the next seasons with the 2nd and 3rd team offenses and continues to be unable to beat out Orton.

  42. ttebow15 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:40 PM

    Here is the problem with this plan, the fans and ticket holders. Orton struggles on opening night against the Raiders and right there before the end of week 1 you could have Bronco country turn on the qb and new coach. If they struggle for much of the season you will have empty seats, mine included, if they are not willing to show us the product of a ransom of draft picks. We will want to see Tebow develope if he can. The fans will force this move eventually but it will do more damage. The only way this works is if they win with Orton now, that was a gamble our last coach made.

  43. dcrams20 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:41 PM

    All the reports indicate that Orton is far and away much better than Tebow in the throwing drills, etc – thus he gets the first team reps. Tebow and Quinn will get the majority of playing time in the first two or three preseason games, and that will be their chance to show what they can do (or can’t do).

  44. beeroncos says: Aug 3, 2011 4:42 PM

    If I had a vote for the Practice Hall of Fame, Orton would be on the first ballot.

  45. Gronckle says: Aug 3, 2011 4:44 PM

    I guess this means the Broncos can continue their “high yardage/anemic points” offensive philosophy this year? *sigh*

  46. mogogo1 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:46 PM

    footballfanatic3431 says:

    What a huge mistake. Why would they tell Orton he is the starter and won’t be traded before they even get to see Tim in 1 pre season game.
    ____________________________

    This wasn’t a legally binding decision to go with Orton…they can change their mind if Tebow catches fire. But, given that every report thus far out of their camp has Tebow looking worse than both Orton and Quinn, it shouldn’t be a huge surprise that they haven’t handed the ball to Tebow.

  47. cmj2010 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:46 PM

    When the Broncos told Orton he wasn’t going anywhere, they were probably talking about his career path.

  48. seabreezes51 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:47 PM

    Future CYO coach

  49. eustus says: Aug 3, 2011 4:48 PM

    Can we all agree to stop saying all-in, please? Poker is so 2005.

  50. sportswannabe says: Aug 3, 2011 4:50 PM

    This is just dumb. Orton is what he is. If you’re cool with 9 wins being your absolute ceiling, congrats. Tebow could be an out and out bust, but his ceiling is higher right now, and he looked pretty good last year in the three starts he got.

  51. cgarsmoker says: Aug 3, 2011 4:52 PM

    Remember, John Fox literally cried at the press conference when Jake Delhomme was cut by the Panthers. He has no clue how to evaluate or develop a QB.

    Run, run, pass, punt – get used to that Denver because that’s the Fox philosophy. Orton will be a good fit for Fox because he doesn’t expect the QB to win the game – just not to lose it.

  52. heynowhank says: Aug 3, 2011 4:54 PM

    By the time he learns how to pass at an NFL level, assuming that he ever will, how much of his athleticism will he have left? You put in years of coaching, effectively handicapped by starting off with a flawed project, and what do you end up with? A QB with basic passing skills but great desire to win and the question “what was the point again?”.

  53. tinopuno says: Aug 3, 2011 5:01 PM

    sportswannabe says: Aug 3, 2011 4:50 PM

    Tebow could be an out and out bust, but his ceiling is higher right now, and “he looked pretty good last year in the three starts he got.”

    —————————————————————

    Classic example of delusional thinking.

    “He looked pretty good” compared to what/who…Brady Quinn?

  54. ilovefootball25 says: Aug 3, 2011 5:11 PM

    I’m a Tebow fan, but more than anything I just want this situation settled. It’s not helping anyone to continue to have to hash this out. Figure it out and let’s play some football!!!

  55. edukator4 says: Aug 3, 2011 5:18 PM

    hobartbaker says:
    Aug 3, 2011 4:20 PM
    Tebow was the most productive offensive player in the league the last 3 games of the season, from a FF perspective. Which pretty much means he WAS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE OFFENSIVE PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE. In the only three games he has started in the NFL
    _______________________________

    i feel as though some perspective needs to be put in here. first, his passing stats were marginal. 217 yds per game over that stretch isnt that impressive considering he played houston and sd. 66 rushing yds per game is good for a qb but not good for your leading rusher. which he was. i know putting those together plus his total tds; 7 and only 3 ints will provide fantasy owners with a stud at one position. however that does not make him a similarly valuable player on his real life team.

    it actually takes away from the team. the broncos cant afford to have their leading rusher put only 66 yards on the ground. the game agains the raiders, the next best was 20 yards, agains the texans the next best was 42, and against the chargers the next best was 41 (35 on one run). i understand he may keep defenses guessing but no team is getting to the playofss with 217 passing yards per game and 66 on the ground from your leading rusher. not to mention he went 1-2 against those 3 non playoff teams.

  56. whoknowsnothing says: Aug 3, 2011 5:21 PM

    Denver is lucky to have Orton, Tebow is the one thats going to get traded………to Miami.

  57. joey415 says: Aug 3, 2011 5:30 PM

    can we all agree they both suck?

  58. sportswannabe says: Aug 3, 2011 5:31 PM

    tinopuno says: Aug 3, 2011 5:01 PM

    sportswannabe says: Aug 3, 2011 4:50 PM

    Tebow could be an out and out bust, but his ceiling is higher right now, and “he looked pretty good last year in the three starts he got.”

    —————————————————————

    Classic example of delusional thinking.

    “He looked pretty good” compared to what/who…Brady Quinn?
    ——————————–
    ——————————–

    He looked pretty good compared to what Kyle Orton had done. He went 1-2, but he also nearly beat San Diego. Orton went 3-10.

  59. thebraso says: Aug 3, 2011 5:33 PM

    My question is this.

    Is there a reason Fox or Elway hasnt stated this directly yet?

    The last actual quote from the head coach was,

    “we are looking for a gamer not a practice player”

    But my position is this, I dont care if the QB is mickey mouse and the head coach is donald duck, either win or get the hell out of town!

  60. mdnittlion says: Aug 3, 2011 5:34 PM

    You know who wins in all of this Brady Quinn again. Two high profile guys duke it out for leader of the team and he gets to set back and collect his million dollar check for holding a clip board. And from time to time show just a little bit of pro talent, if he were on an NFC West team he’d probably be a starter.

  61. tinopuno says: Aug 3, 2011 5:41 PM

    broncotis3000 says: Aug 3, 2011 4:20 PM

    Good move…..Let Orton play out his contract this season(whos knows what he can do with a real ground game)Let Tebow watch and contribute in different packages that utilize his strengths.

    ———————————————————-
    Like the pre-game prayer, the half time inspirational song, the post-game prayer.

  62. promickey says: Aug 3, 2011 5:49 PM

    Wow, now that we know that Kyle Orton is the chosen number one in Denver. What was the Dolphins’ back up plan to upgrade the quarterback position? I guess the Dolphins GM Ireland did not look past Orton. Now the Dolphins are stuck with Henne who is not an NFL level starting quarterback. He is Bill Parcells mistake………and so it goes with the Dolphins.

  63. jjbadd says: Aug 3, 2011 5:53 PM

    I keep saying this. I’m sorry but one more time. Its 100% certain that Orton isn’t the long term solution. Why prolong the inevitable? Even if Tebow isn’t an NFL qb as everyone seems to think. (Except me, I believe he will be a winner.) So he plays & don’t succeed. You have your answer as to what to do next year, since you dont have it on your roster now. I have a bad feeling the Broncos are going to screw this up, and noone on this planet respects John Elway as much as I do, he is the reason I have been a Denver fan for over 20 yrs. I live in SC, & my 2nd team is Carolina Panthers, & Fox isn’t an offensive minded coach to begin with. I feel like they are making a mistake with this”Tebow thing”, but at the same time i respect Elway’s opinion of the Qb position, he was the greatest!

  64. steelerfanforlife says: Aug 3, 2011 6:03 PM

    Denver’s 3rd Down Conversion Percentage was almost dead last, last year. Wasn’t the knock on Orton that he put up great stats on 1st and 2nd down but in crunch time he didn’t do much?

  65. rollerino1 says: Aug 3, 2011 6:20 PM

    I was looking forward to seeing what Tebow could do as the starter. Kyle Orton is definitely more polished right now, but as soon as the pressure is on late in the season, he starts looking like a human accordion on 3rd down conversions.

  66. shadowgm1 says: Aug 3, 2011 6:25 PM

    Awww. Gimmicks always get what is coming to them. Finally the Broncos are beginning to wise up.

  67. bhenryman says: Aug 3, 2011 6:26 PM

    bhenryman says:
    Aug 3, 2011 4:09 PM
    If i was a denver fan i want to see what my first round pick at QB has now, orton is a good QB but hes not elite, not saying tebow is either but when you have luck coming out next year i want to know if tebow is the future give him a chance. worst case you have the worst record in the league and hit the lottery with luck lol

    ____

    Or best case, Orton takes you to the playoffs and then you can “see what you have with Tebow” in 2012.

    ——-
    i guess u forgot denver tried that last year…

  68. superfuzz1000 says: Aug 3, 2011 6:43 PM

    Okay… So Orton’s 11-17 record over the past two seasons in a Denver Bronco uniform mean nothing? Suddenly because there is a new coach in town, even though the Broncos failed to adequately upgrade their running game (i.e. Willis McGahee and his whole three thousand yard seasons in nine years in the NFL is not the answer) and their offensive line, Orton is finally going to figure out how to execute in the red zone and not choke in the last two minutes of the game. Give me a break. Orton is not the answer for the Broncos now, and he never will be the answer. Hell, I don’t care who we put in at quarterback at this point, as long as we don’t have to endure another year of great quarterback stats and no wins.

  69. bonniebengal says: Aug 3, 2011 7:09 PM

    Send Tebow to Miami or Seattle.

  70. jaypace says: Aug 3, 2011 7:16 PM

    This is a 5 win team no matter who the qb is

  71. 305fan says: Aug 3, 2011 7:19 PM

    Teblow belongs in Jacksonville. That’s the only town in America that loves him.

  72. catchhester23 says: Aug 3, 2011 7:22 PM

    Of course it will be orton. For one he is far better than tebow. Second of all cutler and the bears are coming to town this year denver has to show they got the better trade. Goodluck!!!

  73. souldogdave says: Aug 3, 2011 7:22 PM

    The clods that blindly holler “Tebow” are bible-thumping teabaggers. I hoped and prayed they would start him, since I am a Raider fan. Suffice it to say I am not a bible-thumping idiot, I mean, tea-bagger.The Broncos are in such disarray, they hired Elway so they could get away with “de-emphasizing” Tebow, and dumping him somehow.They are even talking Quinn up to soften the blow to the “believers”.What a bunch of maroons, in the immortal words of Bugs Bunny.Orton is the only qb they have that can play.The other two will get destroyed.I salivate for the first game against the Raiders, yeah!!

  74. mecheng04 says: Aug 3, 2011 8:06 PM

    Tim Tebow will be traded to the New England Patriots for a third or fourth round pick and will see limited time as a situational player. Ultimately, he will be groomed to replace Tom Brady when he retires.

    Bill B. likes him (he and Urban Meyer are good friends) and will know how to use his unique skill set.

    Let’s see if I turn out to be right.

  75. MichaelEdits says: Aug 3, 2011 9:45 PM

    Rascal 98

  76. kevpft says: Aug 3, 2011 11:31 PM

    They’ve had plenty of time to look at Tebow. They obviously want to win now, and obviously have little loyalty to Orton, so with all those factors in place, the only reason not to start Tebow is because they don’t think Tebow is good enough.

    Maybe there’s some kind of mysterious ploy to make Orton more tradeable here. But at this point I don’t see it. They could have moved him already, easily, if they wanted to.

    It all comes down to them not wanting to move Orton, and not wanting to start Tebow. Sorry Tebow fans, that’s the picture. I look for a clean sweep and all-new QB lineup in Denver next season.

  77. gilgafresh says: Aug 4, 2011 12:25 AM

    It’s funny that none of those guys were echoing what Fox was saying today after practice. It would’ve been pretty hard since they were flapping their lips BEFORE Fox said what he’s been saying all along. I wonder if PFT will run a story on that. Plus, Schefter doesn’t have the inside scoop in Denver like he used to… obviously.

  78. bonniebengal says: Aug 5, 2011 6:43 AM

    Brady Quinn is HORRIBLE. There’s no way he gets the #2 spot.

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