Comments on: Source: Goodell refuses to yield authority over personal conduct policy

By: rmk001

rmk001 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:50:26 +0000

Let just hope he let’s these guys hit an stops fining for hits it’s football the players now what there getting into it’s a contact sport Ronnie lott would have been fined every week

By: CKL

CKL — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 06:16:08 +0000

rcali says:
Aug 3, 2011 10:05 PM
So they slammed a deal through that wasn’t finished so they wouldn’t miss out on their pathetic pre-season games which somehow people have to pay full price for. Nice Job Owners and Players!
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They couldn’t negotiate anything like the drug policy, discipline, etc until the NFLPA re-formed as a union.

By: mcarey032

mcarey032 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 04:49:00 +0000

In addition, the commissioner Got involved in the Brett Favre trade to the Jets? Since when is it the commissioner’s job to get involved in trades among teams? This guy wants to show players how big and bad he is by suspending players or getting involved. Take a note from Tagliabue, show up at the draft, show up at various games and show up at the Super Bowl. Let your deputies do all the fining instead of you legislating the game from your pulpit.

By: mcarey032

mcarey032 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 04:43:55 +0000

In a vacuum this policy works great, but inexplicably the commissioner acts without rhyme nor reason. He suspends pac man for a year and he was never convicted , but Roethlisberger got 4 games for his role in the georgia bathroom scandal after there was already a previous allegation on Roethlisberger? The commissioner has been inconsistent. The guy and his policy is a joke. The teams should discipline their own players, instead they hire some lackey to be their mouthpiece.

By: plundergrunge

plundergrunge — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:33:27 +0000

Goodell should try outlining the parameters of any future disciplinary actions.

This outline should detail different offenses, and any fines/suspension that may come along with said violations.

Right now, punishment is coming off the top of Goodell’s head. And it showed last season. He failed to show consistency in his punishments.

Get a plan in place, something the NFLPA can agree with, and let’s finally put this CBA bs to bed.

By: pigskin28

pigskin28 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:27:49 +0000

Dear mr. Goodell.

Stick to your guns, stick to your guns, STICK TO YOUR GUNS.

Dear players,

STOP BREAKING THE LAW A$$HOLES!!!

By: doe22us

doe22us — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:23:36 +0000

Damn players want to go scott free like Leonard Little.. Put the clamps on them Roger. Its very simple stay in line and you wouldnt have to hear from the commish freaking turds.

By: goldsteel

goldsteel — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:14:02 +0000

There are two parts to this issue. Behavior off the field and behavior on the field. If Roger Goodell wants to retain his power for off field issues then so be it. It’s the on field issues that I don’t like.

Officiating is now over regulated. There are the officials of course but now there are the “I never played football” types in New York looking for style points. Did that hit look too hard? And they are all marching to Goodell’s orders. Defenses need to react which means one doesn’t have time to figure out the most humane way to tackle someone. If the defenses can’t do their jobs then there is no real competition on the field. The scoring is meaningless and so is the game. I won’t be watching any Goodell Ball this year.

GO STEELERS!

By: tiffpats4eva

tiffpats4eva — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:05:36 +0000

I can’t stomach GODell.

By: rcali

rcali — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:05:19 +0000

So they slammed a deal through that wasn’t finished so they wouldn’t miss out on their pathetic pre-season games which somehow people have to pay full price for. Nice Job Owners and Players!

By: hobartbaker

hobartbaker — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:01:32 +0000

Egregious Harrison feels compelled to carry all that hardware to protect himself in case he runs into Roger Goodell on the street.

By: panther17

panther17 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:45:18 +0000

Stop breaking the F’n law then. Stupid players.

By: muckhappy

muckhappy — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:39:48 +0000

Here is an idea take some responsibility for yourselves. The NFL is not a court of law nor is it required to follow the judiciary process. It is a business, and the league has every right to discipline its employees. If you are out causing a scene at a strip club or are in the newspaper for driving drunk, then guess what… you gotta pay the piper because it negatively affects the league. Whether the players like it or not they are constantly in the public eye and are subject to increased scrutiny.

By: drbob117

drbob117 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:34:20 +0000

I guess the union wants guys like Aqib Talib to just get a free pass for the fun Mom/Son activity he invented during the lockout ” Shoot at your sister’s boyfriend!”

By: depotnator

depotnator — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:32:02 +0000

The issue may be that the NFL said ” no problem” when this issue was raised prior to recertification. The NFLPA was concerned about what would happen if they could’t reach agreement after recertification: they would be forced to work under 2010 rules. The owners must have given their promise that will not happen, so they will force Goodell to compromise.

By: pappysarcasm

pappysarcasm — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:29:07 +0000

Remember Kenesaw Mountain Landis? Remember MLB before him? There are consequences for your actions! The commish should stick to his guns on this one!

By: mack1212

mack1212 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:23:58 +0000

I believe anyone who has experience in dealing with a union from a management perspective would want to retain the power to discipline at their discretion rather than go through and compromise with a union. Too often unions (in general) are looking to soften the blow when an employee gets into trouble and the unique exception here being that these players are public figures getting huge media exposure when they run afoul and a strong message must continually be be sent to ensure both the player community and the fan community know that the actions aren’t tolerated and that consequences are not bargained.

On a seperate note, having this done by the teams individually I agree is a conflict of interest as the teams will be reluctant to suspend if the player is a big contributor (like a QB).

Goodell should keep it, I don’t personally believe any of the punishments levied to this point have been unfair or unreasonable.

By: nemesisf96

nemesisf96 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:14:28 +0000

Krazy

By: gfan8611

gfan8611 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:11:10 +0000

If it’s true they would rather handle their players indiscretions in house, let them. The owners simply need to call Roger Goodell and ask him if he likes his job. He gets ten million a year by the way. I think he probably does.

By: mikeypanic

mikeypanic — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:10:27 +0000

smart move fidel.

i’m sure nothing will go wrong.

By: vahawker

vahawker — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:08:53 +0000

No way a player should have appeal his fine/suspension to the very person who determined they should be fined/suspended and then determined the penalty for the infraction. At the very least, an impartial committee or third person should hear all appeals.

Owners need to step up and tell him to stand down.

By: andrewfbrowne

andrewfbrowne — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:08:35 +0000

No two a days, no pad practices, no letting there be 18 games and still forcing fans to pay full price for two preseason games, work for a company for an average of four years and get a lifetime of health benefits and now they do not want their boss to be able to discipline them when they get arrested.

WOW.

I cannot for the life of me figure out why I spent all my time in the library studying, I should have been lifting weights. Whoever called them dumb jocks was waaaaaaaay off the mark.

By: patpatriotagain

patpatriotagain — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:04:00 +0000

welzy says:
I don’t have a problem with Goodell hammering the drunk drivers, wife beaters, and drug dealers.
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what about arbitrary penalties when a player makes a hit that he deems too hard – even when it is a legal hit?

By: bleedblue18

bleedblue18 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:03:38 +0000

They need a more set guidelines to go off of for penalty’s. It seems Goodell just makes t up as he goes, some players do the exact same infraction but get different penalty’s.

Plus Goodell gives the penalty a handels the appeal, how dumb is that.

By: tominma

tominma — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:02:46 +0000

Hang in there Roger. As Commissioner, you have the obligation to keep the players in line. If players dont like this, too bad. If you dont want to be suspended or fined, dont DO anything that will GET you suspended or fined!

By: bradentonbuc

bradentonbuc — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:58:35 +0000

“I am sick of this judge,jury and exacutioner idiot….no checks and balances so he has to go asap-just a tool for the owners”

Uhhh….he does work for the owners

By: Chris Guest

Chris Guest — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:56:44 +0000

the issue with the players is the lack of uniformity in enforcement of the rules. They are not arguing there shouldn’t be a punishment but that it is unknown quantity of the punishment.

Further, Goodell is essentially the prosecutor, the judge, jury and executioner in case. Anyone would have an issue with that circumstance.

By: goforthanddie

goforthanddie — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:53:16 +0000

Goodell gets his rocks off by calling people into his office, like your grade-school principal.

By: ffootballontwitter

ffootballontwitter — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:46:19 +0000

Why should the commissioner have the authority? Follow the money.

Any organization that goes to a third party for sponsorship or media dollars needs a clear chain of command. No one likes negotiating in earnest with someone and then discovering that person has no decisionmaking authority.

The league negotiates on behalf of all of its teams for a specific length of time in specific media markets. In order for everyone to get paid the dollars they deserve under those contracts, the TV companies have something called standards and practices. TV and its advertisers need a single responsible person they can call on whenever there’s a domestic situation, a bar fight or anything that could cause bad PR and potentially lead to financial harm.

If the players have a person that should be held accountable other than the Commissioner of the league, it has yet to be shared. As they ponder their options, I suspect Goodell is going to win this issue. After all, being a disciplinarian is always going to be a thankless job.

By: hobartbaker

hobartbaker — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 00:44:16 +0000

Accused by the media and the NFLPA of acting as “judge, jury, and executioner”, Mr. Goodell has decided to relinquish some of his power.

He will contract out any future executions to an independant third party.