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	<title>Comments on: Jake Scott calls HGH testing a &#8220;witch hunt&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: vikesfansteve</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1177842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vikesfansteve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We know 1 guy is on HGH for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know 1 guy is on HGH for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: ejmat2</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ejmat2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A witch hunt, huh Jake?  Try working in the real world.  A lot of different companies have random drug testing.  Most of which don&#039;t make the money you do.

How about asking yourself this?  If you weren&#039;t doing anything wrong then why should you have to worry?  By the way, the incentive is not to catch people as you say.  It is to DETER people.  Big difference.  My suggestion is if you don&#039;t like it then find another job that doesn&#039;t do drug testing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A witch hunt, huh Jake?  Try working in the real world.  A lot of different companies have random drug testing.  Most of which don&#8217;t make the money you do.</p>
<p>How about asking yourself this?  If you weren&#8217;t doing anything wrong then why should you have to worry?  By the way, the incentive is not to catch people as you say.  It is to DETER people.  Big difference.  My suggestion is if you don&#8217;t like it then find another job that doesn&#8217;t do drug testing.</p>
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		<title>By: NFLJunkie</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NFLJunkie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;/i&gt;There is a real simple way to solve BOTH parties issues. I can see Scott’s point about the HGH testing not being full proof. Here’s how they should handle it. First if a test comes back positive. Before they go public, they bring the player in and take a blood test. Both tests come up positive the player is suspended.&lt;/I&gt;

Except I think Scott&#039;s point was if there&#039;s only one company performing the only approved test, then that retesting process -- either automatically to confirm a positive result or as part of a player appeal --  is still suspect.  

Scott never said he was against testing.  Just that he questions the motives and neutrality of that sole test provider in proving the test is accurate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a real simple way to solve BOTH parties issues. I can see Scott’s point about the HGH testing not being full proof. Here’s how they should handle it. First if a test comes back positive. Before they go public, they bring the player in and take a blood test. Both tests come up positive the player is suspended.</p>
<p>Except I think Scott&#8217;s point was if there&#8217;s only one company performing the only approved test, then that retesting process &#8212; either automatically to confirm a positive result or as part of a player appeal &#8212;  is still suspect.  </p>
<p>Scott never said he was against testing.  Just that he questions the motives and neutrality of that sole test provider in proving the test is accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176671</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tomosbornesretirementcostjoepaatitle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If only Mr Scott would look outside his entitled NFL life.

The fact that we have for profit, private run prisons is a problem.  For profit drug companies and health insurance is not doing our countries citizens any favors either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only Mr Scott would look outside his entitled NFL life.</p>
<p>The fact that we have for profit, private run prisons is a problem.  For profit drug companies and health insurance is not doing our countries citizens any favors either.</p>
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		<title>By: realitypolice</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176655</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[realitypolice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HGH has no value as a performance enhancing drug in people in the age range of NFL players whose bodies are already producing all of the hormone naturally that their body can assimilate.

HGH is only effective in people who have a natural hormone deficiency, people who have aged to the point where hormone production in their body has slowed down (there is no one in the NFL at that age), or possibly in speeding injury recovery.

HGH is not in any way related to steriods.  There is no credible evidence that HGH has any side effects or long term health consequences.

HGH &quot;testing&quot; is extremely expensive and it&#039;s accuracy highly questionable.

Given the amount of people on here who rail against the league trying take player safety more seriously, I am astounded by the amount of people who seem to care so much about what a player is putting into his body.

If anything, HGH only give players an advantage in getting  jobs over other players  ( just about all current research would say it doesn&#039;t) , and why do you care about that?

And don&#039;t give me any nonsense about your kids.  If you&#039;re still using NFL players as role models for your children, they should be taken away from you.

And to all of you jackwagons who assume a player is doing drugs because he resists testing, maybe he is against it on general principles.

I never do illegal drugs of any type, but I will never, ever, work for a company that requires me to take a drug test.  

It&#039;s a choice I have the freedom to make and NFL players (and lots of other people) don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HGH has no value as a performance enhancing drug in people in the age range of NFL players whose bodies are already producing all of the hormone naturally that their body can assimilate.</p>
<p>HGH is only effective in people who have a natural hormone deficiency, people who have aged to the point where hormone production in their body has slowed down (there is no one in the NFL at that age), or possibly in speeding injury recovery.</p>
<p>HGH is not in any way related to steriods.  There is no credible evidence that HGH has any side effects or long term health consequences.</p>
<p>HGH &#8220;testing&#8221; is extremely expensive and it&#8217;s accuracy highly questionable.</p>
<p>Given the amount of people on here who rail against the league trying take player safety more seriously, I am astounded by the amount of people who seem to care so much about what a player is putting into his body.</p>
<p>If anything, HGH only give players an advantage in getting  jobs over other players  ( just about all current research would say it doesn&#8217;t) , and why do you care about that?</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t give me any nonsense about your kids.  If you&#8217;re still using NFL players as role models for your children, they should be taken away from you.</p>
<p>And to all of you jackwagons who assume a player is doing drugs because he resists testing, maybe he is against it on general principles.</p>
<p>I never do illegal drugs of any type, but I will never, ever, work for a company that requires me to take a drug test.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a choice I have the freedom to make and NFL players (and lots of other people) don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: tdk24</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tdk24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Says the guy who probably takes HGH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Says the guy who probably takes HGH.</p>
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		<title>By: conseannery</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176576</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[conseannery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“I would question the motives of any offensive lineman who is blocking for profit, that is playing as a for-profit player.  Their incentive is to block people,” Scott said. “That’s their incentive — is to block people, and if they don’t block anybody, nobody thinks they can block.  There’s a conflict of interest there.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I would question the motives of any offensive lineman who is blocking for profit, that is playing as a for-profit player.  Their incentive is to block people,” Scott said. “That’s their incentive — is to block people, and if they don’t block anybody, nobody thinks they can block.  There’s a conflict of interest there.”</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Super-Cool Awesome</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176568</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Super-Cool Awesome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand his argument. Its the same one that people use against red-light cameras. That company makes a profit by catching people. So they will do whatever they can to catch people.

Unfortunately, 95% of the followers of this site are colossal &#039;tards. So of course you&#039;ll get the thoughtless comments like &quot;derp, test him first.&quot; Or, &quot;derp what does he have to hide?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand his argument. Its the same one that people use against red-light cameras. That company makes a profit by catching people. So they will do whatever they can to catch people.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, 95% of the followers of this site are colossal &#8216;tards. So of course you&#8217;ll get the thoughtless comments like &#8220;derp, test him first.&#8221; Or, &#8220;derp what does he have to hide?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: billsfan1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176558</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[billsfan1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 11:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“That’s their incentive — is to catch people, and if they don’t catch anybody, nobody thinks their tests works.  There’s a conflict of interest there.”


and the problem is.......? if u catch somebody, say Brian Cushing, then u help take competitive advantage away, and if you cant catch anybody, then no harm, no foul. 
it just seems like the players keep needing to complain about something.... its the tough guy metality. Give it up, you make more money and have more opportunity then u would ever have without football. well deserved for sure, but give it up. you got a nice deal as did the owners... be glad football is back]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“That’s their incentive — is to catch people, and if they don’t catch anybody, nobody thinks their tests works.  There’s a conflict of interest there.”</p>
<p>and the problem is&#8230;&#8230;.? if u catch somebody, say Brian Cushing, then u help take competitive advantage away, and if you cant catch anybody, then no harm, no foul.<br />
it just seems like the players keep needing to complain about something&#8230;. its the tough guy metality. Give it up, you make more money and have more opportunity then u would ever have without football. well deserved for sure, but give it up. you got a nice deal as did the owners&#8230; be glad football is back</p>
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		<title>By: hoosierdude</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hoosierdude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Jake - If you don&#039;t use, Goodell won&#039;t burn you at the stake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jake &#8211; If you don&#8217;t use, Goodell won&#8217;t burn you at the stake.</p>
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		<title>By: 1ravensfan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1ravensfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[During the lockout the players push and push to get what they feel like they deserve. Now that the lockout is over it seems to me that the players are testing every limit with Goodell, HGH, and every other thing they feel is unfair. It is time these players start acting like million dollar adults and shut he hell up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the lockout the players push and push to get what they feel like they deserve. Now that the lockout is over it seems to me that the players are testing every limit with Goodell, HGH, and every other thing they feel is unfair. It is time these players start acting like million dollar adults and shut he hell up!</p>
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		<title>By: mempusa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mempusa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Jake]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jake</p>
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		<title>By: hscorpio</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176539</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hscorpio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once the testing is in place, it will be interesting to see which player&#039;s performance dramatically declines.  It won&#039;t be proof positive they were using HGH but it will sure be suspicious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once the testing is in place, it will be interesting to see which player&#8217;s performance dramatically declines.  It won&#8217;t be proof positive they were using HGH but it will sure be suspicious.</p>
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		<title>By: liltifer</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176537</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[liltifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not a witch-hunt. It&#039;s a hunt for people using illegal means to gain an unfair advantage. 

Or did you think people are built like that naturally?  I&#039;m sure at some point, Takeo Spikes actually had a neck...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a witch-hunt. It&#8217;s a hunt for people using illegal means to gain an unfair advantage. </p>
<p>Or did you think people are built like that naturally?  I&#8217;m sure at some point, Takeo Spikes actually had a neck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sdelmonte</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sdelmonte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would have to be offered something in exchange to allow anyone to routinely take blood samples from me for any reason.  I don&#039;t know why the union agreed to this without a real fight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to be offered something in exchange to allow anyone to routinely take blood samples from me for any reason.  I don&#8217;t know why the union agreed to this without a real fight.</p>
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		<title>By: jagmania65</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jagmania65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@devrocks247:

What&#039;s in it for the owners is that Congress&#039; givng the NFL exemption from Anti-Trust Law is the most important thing to the operation of the league.

Congress didn&#039;t hold hearings on PED use in football because the league could tell Congress that they test for steroids.  Baseball couldn&#039;t say the same thing, and so a bunch of juicers got hauled before Congress to testify.  That created a PR nightmare that still hasn&#039;t gone away.  The NFL doesn&#039;t want that headache, or a Congress inclined to re-examine the NFL&#039;s Anti-Trust Law exemption...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@devrocks247:</p>
<p>What&#8217;s in it for the owners is that Congress&#8217; givng the NFL exemption from Anti-Trust Law is the most important thing to the operation of the league.</p>
<p>Congress didn&#8217;t hold hearings on PED use in football because the league could tell Congress that they test for steroids.  Baseball couldn&#8217;t say the same thing, and so a bunch of juicers got hauled before Congress to testify.  That created a PR nightmare that still hasn&#8217;t gone away.  The NFL doesn&#8217;t want that headache, or a Congress inclined to re-examine the NFL&#8217;s Anti-Trust Law exemption&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scudbot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scudbot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The incentive for the owners is contained in the title of the next post, &quot;Conduct policy more about P.R. than fairness.&quot;  That, and their lawyers want it for CYA purposes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The incentive for the owners is contained in the title of the next post, &#8220;Conduct policy more about P.R. than fairness.&#8221;  That, and their lawyers want it for CYA purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: savannahrose44</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176522</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[savannahrose44]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A witch hunt?  I think not.   Maybe you should familiarize yourself with what exactly constitutes a witch hunt.  Last I checked they are not burning witches in the NFL, they are simply wanting to test players to make sure they are not using DANGEROUS steroids.  You have nothing to fear...IF you have nothing to hide.  I can&#039;t imagine any player protesting this who is not guilty of using.  If you are stupid enough to use steroids I hope you enjoy the nice after effects for the rest of your life...however long that ends up being.  Pull your head outta your butt Jake Scott that is unless you really do have something to hide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A witch hunt?  I think not.   Maybe you should familiarize yourself with what exactly constitutes a witch hunt.  Last I checked they are not burning witches in the NFL, they are simply wanting to test players to make sure they are not using DANGEROUS steroids.  You have nothing to fear&#8230;IF you have nothing to hide.  I can&#8217;t imagine any player protesting this who is not guilty of using.  If you are stupid enough to use steroids I hope you enjoy the nice after effects for the rest of your life&#8230;however long that ends up being.  Pull your head outta your butt Jake Scott that is unless you really do have something to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 07:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Devrocks-could also be public opinion related. Look at the mess basebore has had with PEDS. Not good publicity for the league or the game. Poor public opinion=less ad &amp; tv $$$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devrocks-could also be public opinion related. Look at the mess basebore has had with PEDS. Not good publicity for the league or the game. Poor public opinion=less ad &amp; tv $$$.</p>
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		<title>By: jcdavey2011</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jcdavey2011]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[memo to nfl testing dept.

test that guy first

follow up memo, test all players who have ever failed a drug test, 2nd.


i don&#039;t see the problem with testing, and i don&#039;t understand how any player can &#039;openly&#039; disagree with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>memo to nfl testing dept.</p>
<p>test that guy first</p>
<p>follow up memo, test all players who have ever failed a drug test, 2nd.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t see the problem with testing, and i don&#8217;t understand how any player can &#8216;openly&#8217; disagree with it.</p>
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		<title>By: tigerphins</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Witch hunt?  

This is preposterous!!!  Everyone knows women don&#039;t play in the NFL.    


On a real note--- It&#039;s only a witch hunt if innocent people are being punished.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Witch hunt?  </p>
<p>This is preposterous!!!  Everyone knows women don&#8217;t play in the NFL.    </p>
<p>On a real note&#8212; It&#8217;s only a witch hunt if innocent people are being punished.</p>
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		<title>By: timegambit</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Start testing in New England! 

There are alot of very pissed off witches in that area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start testing in New England! </p>
<p>There are alot of very pissed off witches in that area.</p>
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		<title>By: pfank11</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176482</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a real simple way to solve BOTH parties issues.  I can see Scott&#039;s point about the HGH testing not being full proof.  Here&#039;s how they should handle it.  First if a test comes back positive. Before they go public, they bring the player in and take a blood test.  Both tests come up positive the player is suspended.

Since the owners are paying for their health insurance, I thin they have a right to know they aren&#039;t harming themselves.  The blood test becomes less intrusive, because it will only be used if the urine tests is positive, so it would only happen about 10 times a year.

Asking trhe membership to take around 10 blood tests out of 1899 member  to show the public that their sport is clean.  Protects the integrity of the league and protects the players from being penalized because of a false positive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a real simple way to solve BOTH parties issues.  I can see Scott&#8217;s point about the HGH testing not being full proof.  Here&#8217;s how they should handle it.  First if a test comes back positive. Before they go public, they bring the player in and take a blood test.  Both tests come up positive the player is suspended.</p>
<p>Since the owners are paying for their health insurance, I thin they have a right to know they aren&#8217;t harming themselves.  The blood test becomes less intrusive, because it will only be used if the urine tests is positive, so it would only happen about 10 times a year.</p>
<p>Asking trhe membership to take around 10 blood tests out of 1899 member  to show the public that their sport is clean.  Protects the integrity of the league and protects the players from being penalized because of a false positive.</p>
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		<title>By: buzzbissinger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176475</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This stuff just cracks me up. MLB, NBA, NFL have a laughable testing system and catch no one, therefore are considered &quot;clean&quot; sports. Meanwhile, Olympic sports (cycling, track) actively persue dopers and weed them out, yet are considered &quot;dirty&quot; sports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This stuff just cracks me up. MLB, NBA, NFL have a laughable testing system and catch no one, therefore are considered &#8220;clean&#8221; sports. Meanwhile, Olympic sports (cycling, track) actively persue dopers and weed them out, yet are considered &#8220;dirty&#8221; sports.</p>
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		<title>By: olsonm4</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176470</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[olsonm4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While i&#039;m not a big fan of jake scott, do your research on this. There aren&#039;t any&quot;trully&quot;accurate HGH testing methods. Too many false positives. I&#039;m really surprised it made it in the CBA. That&#039;s why other sports aren&#039;t testing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i&#8217;m not a big fan of jake scott, do your research on this. There aren&#8217;t any&#8221;trully&#8221;accurate HGH testing methods. Too many false positives. I&#8217;m really surprised it made it in the CBA. That&#8217;s why other sports aren&#8217;t testing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: getreal3128</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176465</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[getreal3128]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cabbage ... since the NFL has never tested for HGH, this would be a new test.  

Third party testers are not out to bust anyone.  There are many variables involved in the NFL&#039;s drug testing program.  Any attempt at a &quot;witch hunt&quot; ... quota system, etc is not going to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cabbage &#8230; since the NFL has never tested for HGH, this would be a new test.  </p>
<p>Third party testers are not out to bust anyone.  There are many variables involved in the NFL&#8217;s drug testing program.  Any attempt at a &#8220;witch hunt&#8221; &#8230; quota system, etc is not going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: bullcharger</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176457</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bullcharger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If 10 more reps of bench press and a faster 40 time is the difference between not making the NFL and millions of dollars of guaranteed money, players will do what ever they have to do.

Testing won&#039;t fix the problem unless the results are truly reliable and the punishment is such that it is no longer worth it for players to take the risk.

A multi million dollar contract vs a 3 game suspension if you actually get caught is a no brainer.

What happend to Manny Ramirez is more like it.  Miss a season... make players ineligable for the HOF, etc.

Players will surely stop if they are risking their career.

Prevention also needs to start much earlier in their sporting lives.  High school players are already doing this stuff... hard for them to stop later.

If a kid gains 20lbs of muscle in a summer the coach should be questioning him, not congratulating him.

HGH testing will just remove the biggest offenders and give the illusion that the league is responsible, but it won&#039;t fix the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If 10 more reps of bench press and a faster 40 time is the difference between not making the NFL and millions of dollars of guaranteed money, players will do what ever they have to do.</p>
<p>Testing won&#8217;t fix the problem unless the results are truly reliable and the punishment is such that it is no longer worth it for players to take the risk.</p>
<p>A multi million dollar contract vs a 3 game suspension if you actually get caught is a no brainer.</p>
<p>What happend to Manny Ramirez is more like it.  Miss a season&#8230; make players ineligable for the HOF, etc.</p>
<p>Players will surely stop if they are risking their career.</p>
<p>Prevention also needs to start much earlier in their sporting lives.  High school players are already doing this stuff&#8230; hard for them to stop later.</p>
<p>If a kid gains 20lbs of muscle in a summer the coach should be questioning him, not congratulating him.</p>
<p>HGH testing will just remove the biggest offenders and give the illusion that the league is responsible, but it won&#8217;t fix the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: coreydemoss</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176453</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If he weighs the same as a duck, he&#039;s made of wood. And therefore...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he weighs the same as a duck, he&#8217;s made of wood. And therefore&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thetooloftools</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176452</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetooloftools]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say don&#039;t test for any drugs. Let these guys catch on fire running down the field for all I care. 
I KNEW baseball players were using steroids for years and my circle of sports friends laughed at me. Bigger, stronger, faster... I&#039;m all for it. Hell if they flame out, they flame out. I want to see dudes crushing each other and blowing each other up. Like they say &quot;it&#039;s business&quot;. Well if it&#039;s business then I won&#039;t make it personal like I give a rip if they die young or their brains melt.
Google &quot;Steelers and steroids&quot; sometime. 
Rocky Blier nailed it. 
Nothing personal.
It&#039;s business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say don&#8217;t test for any drugs. Let these guys catch on fire running down the field for all I care.<br />
I KNEW baseball players were using steroids for years and my circle of sports friends laughed at me. Bigger, stronger, faster&#8230; I&#8217;m all for it. Hell if they flame out, they flame out. I want to see dudes crushing each other and blowing each other up. Like they say &#8220;it&#8217;s business&#8221;. Well if it&#8217;s business then I won&#8217;t make it personal like I give a rip if they die young or their brains melt.<br />
Google &#8220;Steelers and steroids&#8221; sometime.<br />
Rocky Blier nailed it.<br />
Nothing personal.<br />
It&#8217;s business.</p>
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		<title>By: t16rich</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/04/jake-scott-calls-hgh-testing-a-witch-hunt/#comment-1176447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[t16rich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Suspicious. HE&#039;S A WITCH!!!]]></description>
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