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Nevada lawsuit against Roethlisberger finally will move forward

Ben Roethlisberger AP

The honeymoon is over, in more ways that one.

After the lawsuit against recently-married Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger languished for months in Nevada over a threshold procedural issue based on whether the case should stay in the county where it was filed or whether it should be moved to the county where the alleged incident occurred, the Nevada Supreme Court has ruled that the case should stay put.

It means that the case will finally proceed, and that it will do so in the county in which the plaintiff’s lawyer chose to file the case.

Fights over forum selection are common in civil suits.  The lawyer representing the plaintiff, when faced with a choice of possible venues, picks the one that the lawyer believes will be the kindest to the plaintiff.  If the lawyer for the defendant(s) believes that another possible forum exists that would be less favorable to the plaintiff, the lawyer for the defendant(s) sometimes tries to move the case there.

“We’re delighted with the court’s ruling and look forward to proceeding with the case in 2nd Judicial District Court,” the plaintiff’s lawyer, Cal Dunlap, told the Associated Press.

In some cases, the choice of a forum can be the difference between winning and losing.  In this case, Roethlisberger lawyer David Cornwell doesn’t think so.  Cornwell told the AP that the ruling “does not affect the likely outcome of this case,” and that “the jury will conclude that Ben has been falsely accused.”

The most important aspect of the development is that, more than two years after it was filed, the case will move off square one.

Despite any actual or apparent weaknesses in the plaintiff’s case, the best move for Ben could be to peel off some of that lump sum he receives when restructuring his contract to put this one behind him, once and for all.

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  1. ravensfan4life52 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:04 PM

    wait a minute all the Steelers fans tried to tell me that this case was dismissed along with the other one. I guess they just didn’t know what they were talking about, which, now I that I think about it, I should’ve just assumed that was the case in the first place.

  2. redguy12588 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:04 PM

    The first thing we do, we kill all the lawyers.

  3. tombradysponytail says: Aug 4, 2011 6:06 PM

    Time for Ben to get out his checkbook.

    And, time for Deb to explain how he’s being wronged…

  4. waccoforflacco says: Aug 4, 2011 6:07 PM

    Rapists should get what’s coming to them.

  5. FinFan68 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:08 PM

    No way should he pay that woman. Her own admissions (verbal, e-mail, etc.) should prove to objective people that this is nothing but a money grab by a jilted groupie. Ben is not the most ethical of NFL players but this case should have no chance to succeed.

  6. kevo126 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:08 PM

    ben roethlisberger has consistently made good decisions…

    the classy off-season for the steelers continues.

  7. jetswin5straightsuperbowls says: Aug 4, 2011 6:08 PM

    Steelers may have landed Plax if Roethlisberger didn’t try to rape him

  8. waccoforflacco says: Aug 4, 2011 6:08 PM

    Why did Burgerhead ask the girl if there were any cameras in the room? One reason…we know what it is.

  9. everydayimfumbilin says: Aug 4, 2011 6:09 PM

    i thought the steelers where classy… oh wait

  10. vahawker says: Aug 4, 2011 6:10 PM

    So he should not adamantly defend his innocence by paying her off? Wonder what Mrs. Ben thinks of that?

  11. holeinone09 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:10 PM

    Mike, while your suggestion is one that many many innocent parties use to eliminate a nuisance legal situation/reduce cost/reduce time spent, etc, and I personally don’t much disagree with it, you can imagine the things that would be said about Ben if he took your advice. “He was guilty!”, “He made a payoff! See I told you so!”, etc.

    Meanwhile, this probably just means there will be another year or 2 of delays while motions are made, discovery takes place, etc, etc.

    From what has been made public about that woman’s actions (in subsequent texts, discussions, etc) it seems she is nothing more than a low life gold digger. She was of age, Ben was not married, and she seems to be trying a mere money grab.

    If she continues this matter, I hope the jury hears what all we have heard so far on facts, and she is crushed in court with the facts, since if there was a smoking gun it sure would have come out after 2 years.

  12. cup1981 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:14 PM

    Good, it’s about time he can get through this thing and prove for a SECOND time that he did not do anything illegal, unless having consensual sex is illegal.

    I don’t see Ben giving the lady any money just to get out of this whole thing. He wants to clear his name AGAIN, since one court saying he’s innocent isn’t enough.

  13. waccoforflacco says: Aug 4, 2011 6:14 PM

    O.J. thought a Las Vegas jury would let him walk…maybe OJ and Ben can get to be cell mates

  14. karlsummers says: Aug 4, 2011 6:16 PM

    No settlement! Don’t pay her a dime!

  15. siggy00 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:18 PM

    He’s not paying her off. You keep preaching it, and two years later he hasn’t given her a dime.

    As soon as this nut can’t answer how she knew Ben’s TV was broken 24 hours before Ben “told” her” it was, this case ends.

    Period.

  16. ndgarretjax says: Aug 4, 2011 6:23 PM

    He turned into an OL?

  17. footballisfun says: Aug 4, 2011 6:24 PM

    I predict this thread is going to be gold for this site.

    Pass the popcorn!

  18. tombradysbaby says: Aug 4, 2011 6:24 PM

    You did the deed Ben, so now it’s time to pay for it. Better to cut this chick a check then drag your sorry ass through the mud.

  19. ravenator says: Aug 4, 2011 6:26 PM

    Ben is a creep. Guilty or not, I will enjoy reading more. Drink it in Ben, drink it in!

  20. stairwayto7 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:26 PM

    I say their are over 170 post about this and no will say Ray Lewis is a murderer, Raphel Septien like little boys, Mark Chumura likes 14 year old girls, Leonard Little is a drunk driver who killed a person nor Brett Favre is a pain killer addice who text his junk to other women while being married! Oh wait, I just did that!

  21. jnbnet says: Aug 4, 2011 6:29 PM

    There you go……just buy your way out of it.

  22. cheezysmegma says: Aug 4, 2011 6:32 PM

    I smell a…distraction!

  23. waitingguilty says: Aug 4, 2011 6:33 PM

    Hey…She was 17!

    -Mark Chmura

  24. ravenator says: Aug 4, 2011 6:35 PM

    Got my popcorn ready, bring on the rapist comments!

  25. steelcurtainn says: Aug 4, 2011 6:35 PM

    She’s the one who should have the lawsuit pending against her not Big Ben. Just another golddigger.

  26. henrykissingerisgod says: Aug 4, 2011 6:36 PM

    who cares what he does…football is entertainment and the steelers are my team so i hope they win because that entertains me more when they win…i dont cheer for individual players…when ben throws a touchdown i cheer because that means the steelers scored…

    excuse me now, i am going to watch a mel gibson movie, a robert downey jr movie and listen to R. kelly and snoop dogg while watching mike tyson highlights

  27. tk1966 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:37 PM

    ravensfan4life52 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:04 PM

    wait a minute all the Steelers fans tried to tell me that this case was dismissed along with the other one. I guess they just didn’t know what they were talking about, which, now I that I think about it, I should’ve just assumed that was the case in the first place.

    ____________________________________

    No charges brought against him, in this or the other accusation = dismissed (by the authorities). This case is a civil case / money grab. Looks like you are the one who is wrong. Sorry Professor Kingsfield.

  28. dixon29 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:39 PM

    Anything that distracts the Steelers works for me!

  29. firstroyal says: Aug 4, 2011 6:39 PM

    Steelers are classy- oh wait the other thing- morally bankrupt

  30. rectumnearlykilledem says: Aug 4, 2011 6:39 PM

    Dirtbag rapist. Plain and simple. I love how the naive, ignorant Steeler fans try to make excuses for this criminal. Wake up.

  31. 3octaveFart says: Aug 4, 2011 6:43 PM

    No, there’s absolutely nothing to the timing here…
    Another act of desperation.

  32. ctiggs says: Aug 4, 2011 6:44 PM

    in other news ben just locked his wife in the bathroom

  33. steelergold says: Aug 4, 2011 6:45 PM

    This woman is a complete head case. Read the complaint for yourself. This is a golddigger aiming at Both the casino and Ben.

  34. 3octaveFart says: Aug 4, 2011 6:45 PM

    ravenator says:
    Aug 4, 2011 6:26 PM
    Ben is a division rival. Guilty or not, I will enjoy reading more

    / fixed it for ya…

  35. ravensfan4life52 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:48 PM

    @tk1966

    yeah I was talking about this civil case not any other case. next time you wanna be a smart a$$ try harder.

  36. tiffpats4eva says: Aug 4, 2011 6:49 PM

    jetswin5straightsuperbowls says:
    Aug 4, 2011 6:08 PM
    Steelers may have landed Plax if Roethlisberger didn’t try to rape him
    ********************

    I hate the Jets, but that is darn funny.

    Thumbs up.

  37. scudbot says: Aug 4, 2011 6:50 PM

    stairwayto7: Chmura was acquitted in February 2001 of assaulting a then 17-year-old girl during a post-prom party at a friend’s home in April 2000. He admitted that his behavior at the party wasn’t appropriate for a married man. He has worked as a legal assistant on high-profile court cases with his former attorney, Gerald Boyle. He is a partner in a real estate business, The Bando Chmura Group, which owns two downtown historic buildings and just completed a renovation project at Cardinal Stritch University.

    He hosts his own local talk radio show Sunday mornings on 540 ESPN Milwaukee and otherwise spends a great deal of time with his sons, Dylan, 15, and Dyson, 12.

    The Massachusetts native and his wife, Lynda, and sons live on a five-acre property in Genesee and never considered leaving this community after the trial.

  38. tyler200829 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:53 PM

    @tk1966, too bad you dont know what you are talking about. She wants money from him for being negatively portrayed by bens distgusting choice. Dont you think if it was a money grab they would have dropped the case? idiot

  39. axespray says: Aug 4, 2011 6:55 PM

    “the jury will conclude that Ben has been falsely accused.”

    ^ Wouldn’t doubt it, after the Casey Anthony ruling, we may aswell be on a roll of letting guilty folks go free….

  40. ilovefoolsball says: Aug 4, 2011 6:57 PM

    Which rape was this one? I’ve lost track.

  41. flakazoid says: Aug 4, 2011 7:02 PM

    tk1966
    Thanks for the paper chase reference.

    Go Steelers!

  42. tatum064 says: Aug 4, 2011 7:05 PM

    New wife; “Honey anything wrong?”
    Rothlisberger; No, just need my check book

  43. ravenspit says: Aug 4, 2011 7:18 PM

    Sorry stairway, trying to change the subject doesn’t work-Ben is a clod who had 2 cops help him force himself on a girl. Quit trying to use pittsburgh logic-nevermind, that’s an oxymoron.

  44. dogsweat1 says: Aug 4, 2011 7:23 PM

    Browns Fans approve of this!

  45. billionsvsmillions says: Aug 4, 2011 7:26 PM

    Your ALL on the Steelers nut sack. Anytime anything Steelers is posted you dim bulbs ( including me to make you happy), chime in with your verbal diarrhea. Thats what happens when the only team in the league with 6 gets in the news. Jealousy and bigotry show their faces. IM willing to bet most if not ALL of you asshats have nailed a drunk chick,…. but not lucky enough to hammer a lowlife that works at a hotel. I hope you all thumbs down my comment just so you have that bleak nano second of pleasure. Click it now loser, what are you waiting for? Still interested in what I have to say huh? IN that case… the only thing Ben rapes is the Ravens in the playoffs. Choke Masters, the little rat birds hit that windshield and wish the nfl would never sch the purple people eaters to play the Steelers away at nite. WHAT a BUNCH of PANSIES! Gotta answer my door, Ray Lewis wants to hit up a nite club in Atlanta, IM just hoping I can get across my driveway without Stallworth taking me out. Anyway, now back to that nano second of pleasure…

  46. laxer37 says: Aug 4, 2011 7:49 PM

    Looks like Raven fans are enjoying a thread that isn’t reporting another one of their key players has bolted or was cut.

    Keep playing the role of the jealous little brother to the Steelers, it’s hilarious.

  47. iownyou2 says: Aug 4, 2011 8:02 PM

    everydayimfumbilin says: Aug 4, 2011 6:09 PM

    i thought the steelers where classy… oh wait
    ——————————————————

    I thought you Ravens fans could spell….oh wait

  48. CKL says: Aug 4, 2011 8:09 PM

    This is the exact type of lawsuit that should never happen. If ONLY we could have a law that said if you bring a suit and lose YOU pay all the costs associated with it, none of these dopey lawsuits would happen where defendants are likely to settle for some kind of money just to make it go away because it cost more to fight them. The bar ass’n/lobbyists will never ever ever ever allow any type of law like that to pass though, I know.

    I know of scumbag people who actually make their LIVING bringing frivolous lawsuits like this. They suck and are wastes of sperm and eggs.

  49. jacksaysfu says: Aug 4, 2011 8:24 PM

    Big Ben is NOT a rapist and shame on you for thinking otherwise! .Also OJ was innocent and Lawerence Taylor would never sleep with an underage girl forced into prostitution.

  50. trickbunny says: Aug 4, 2011 8:25 PM

    stairwayto7 isn’t actually whining about people making fun of Ben, is he? All this guy does is write troll posts trashing everyone else’s teams. Now he’s complaining? Is this Bizarroworld?

  51. democratsarestupid says: Aug 4, 2011 8:41 PM

    -”Name your crimes”

    -”Rape, Murder, Arson and Rape”

    -”You said rape twice?”

    -”I like rape!”

  52. 3octaveFart says: Aug 4, 2011 8:50 PM

    I never get tired of reading the posts from all the intellectual midgets with their cutesy potty jokes.

    Most, if not all of you are only posting because the Steelers are a division rival, or a team your sorry-ass team couldn’t beat in your lifetime. Sad that some people’s moral compass is guided by sports.

    Truth is, most of the clowns posting here are actually hoping that it is true, that some chick got raped.

    That says a lot more about you than it ever will about Ben…

  53. drgfri says: Aug 4, 2011 9:07 PM

    @TK1966

    Where there is smoke there if fire. Roethlisberger is clearly guilty of forcing himself on women, if not outright assault. Why are you defending this pig?

  54. tk1966 says: Aug 4, 2011 9:19 PM

    waccoforflacco says: Aug 4, 2011 6:08 PM

    Why did Burgerhead ask the girl if there were any cameras in the room? One reason…we know what it is.

    Yes, we do know the reason – she needed to make here story sound better. (Burgerhead? Really? Did you come up with that all by yourself, or did you get help from your 2nd grade classmates?)

    And then…

    waccoforflacco says: Aug 4, 2011 6:14 PM

    O.J. thought a Las Vegas jury would let him walk…maybe OJ and Ben can get to be cell mates

    Do you really think that Ben would do any time if he was found guilty of a civil lawsuit? Way to make yourself look even more incompetent.

  55. jeepin08 says: Aug 4, 2011 9:27 PM

    Pass the popcorn. I just love how all of these stealer fans try to justify this bozo. He has a problem with noteriety, money, raping women.
    Or, shall we say forcing himself when not wanted by the opposite sex.
    With all that money they have wasted on paying this bozo, he should obtain some professional help before his new wife gets tied to the bed.

  56. cup1981 says: Aug 4, 2011 9:32 PM

    FYI folks, this is a CIVIL trial, not a criminal trial. Ben cannot “go to jail” from the verdict. The lady never pressed charges, as she knew it is more likely she will go to jail for false accusations in a criminal case than a civil case.

    Just the act of not pressing criminal charges and deciding to go after him civilly is a sign that she’s all for the money. She’s likely hoping for a quick payday, but Ben will likely win this, clear his name and receive punitive damages for slander and liable.

  57. bensstinkyfingers says: Aug 4, 2011 9:41 PM

    Just another case of Ben putting his dirty little wood to a skank. Some get mad if he doesn’t call back the day after (probably the case with this one) Others enjoy the 5 minutes fame with little Ben (stairwayto7 turd on here) and move on still sniffing his jock. Either way Bloated Ben is a scuzzbag and a mediocre QB. THe Steelers glory days are far behind them at this point. The Steelers fans on here will not see another championship in their lifetime, so enjoy your sweet memories Inbreds.

  58. goawayeverybody says: Aug 4, 2011 9:47 PM

    I hope the rape victim gets everything she wants. Roethlisberger is a monster.

  59. ravensfan4life52 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:39 PM

    @laxer37

    It looks like Steelers fans enjoy threads of Ravens players getting cut so they can forget that all the posts about the Steelers are about players getting fined, suspended, arrested, or taken to court.

  60. thephantomstranger says: Aug 4, 2011 10:55 PM

    3octaveFart says:
    Aug 4, 2011 8:50 PM
    I never get tired of reading the posts from all the intellectual midgets with their cutesy potty jokes.
    ___________

    I just couldn’t help pointing out the irony of a guy who calls himself 3octaveFart complaining about people making cutesy potty jokes.

  61. rollerino1 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:56 PM

    Hope she puts a dent in his new nest egg.

  62. thephantomstranger says: Aug 4, 2011 10:59 PM

    tombradysponytail says:
    Aug 4, 2011 6:06 PM
    Time for Ben to get out his checkbook.

    And, time for Deb to explain how he’s being wronged…
    ____________

    Nothing from Deb yet. She must be out tonight. Hope Ben isn’t in the vicinity.

    Just kidding. She’s done a great job of explaining in well-researched detail why this is a case of a nutjob skank trying to get her payday. I find it amazing that so many people want to ignore the facts of the case because they don’t like the Steelers.

    Now if it were A-Rodg being set up, I’d say throw the book at him.

  63. richm2256 says: Aug 4, 2011 11:09 PM

    cup1981 says:
    He wants to clear his name AGAIN, since one court saying he’s innocent isn’t enough.

    —————————————————————-

    I’m sorry, did I miss something?

    When did one single court find Ben Roethlisberger “innocent” of anything? Did he stand trial and get an acquittal that I missed?

  64. tyler200829 says: Aug 4, 2011 11:19 PM

    Nobody is jealous of the steelers, and certainly not the ravens. Pretty sure the ravens won a super bowl in the first 5 years of existence, did the steelers?…….crickets. Just to set the record straight, the steelers last two super bowl wins have come against two teams from the NFC West if that tells you anything, so consider them very lucky at the same time. When they had to play a good, battle tested team, they got torched. Hopefully Ben is ready because this year your little hearts are gonna get broken by the ravens. But im sure we’ll still hear about six and whatever. Crybabies

  65. Deb says: Aug 4, 2011 11:33 PM

    @ravensfan4life52 …

    Steelers fans told you this case had been dismissed with the other one? No. Two cases, two jurisdictions. One has nothing to do with the other. You might be referring to my comment that police in both jurisdictions have said no criminal action will be taken on either case. True.

    Evidence in Georgia showed no crime occurred, so there was never a case to drop. The DA said the matter will not be revisited.

    Police in Nevada have said no one ever reported a sexual assault to them, they have no reason to believe a sexual assault occurred, and they will not open a criminal investigation.

    The Nevada woman waited a year after a one-night stand and filed a $3 million lawsuit against Ben and her coworkers. Most people just settle these nuisance suits; Ben countersued. Since they have text messages she sent to friends saying she couldn’t wait to see him again, obviously there was no assault. After all he’s been through, I wouldn’t blame him for settling, but hope he fights it.

    @goawayeverybody …

    What’s monstrous is that an idiot would call a woman a “victim” who texted friends she couldn’t wait to see this guy again. At the time she claims in her statement to have been crying in her truck, she was actually goo-gooing in baby talk to her boyfriend and telling him he looked like Ben! You may hate the Steelers, but helping this gold-digger play victim makes you a party to degrading and dishonoring real rape victims. You should be ashamed of yourself.

  66. Deb says: Aug 4, 2011 11:38 PM

    @bensstinkyfingers …

    Well … that was an improvement … of sorts LOL

    You know, when I was battling cancer over and over, I didn’t think I’d live to see the Steelers win another championship. But I did … twice :D

  67. Deb says: Aug 4, 2011 11:41 PM

    @jacksaysfu …

    Yeah … because we all know that when one person commits a crime, it means every other accused person is guilty :roll:

  68. tk1966 says: Aug 5, 2011 12:07 AM

    tyler200829 says: Aug 4, 2011 11:19 PM

    Nobody is jealous of the steelers, and certainly not the ravens. Pretty sure the ravens won a super bowl in the first 5 years of existence, did the steelers?…….crickets.

    ____________________________________

    Are you overlooking the history of your team when it was in Cleveland? Yes, they won a championship w/in 5 years, after they moved. Not as a new team from scratch, so your point is moot. Next.

  69. ravensfan4life52 says: Aug 5, 2011 12:41 AM

    @Deb

    no the Steelers fans i have talked too were talking about this case. I specifically asked about the civil suit. i know the police didn’t charge him with anything.

  70. ravensfan4life52 says: Aug 5, 2011 12:45 AM

    @Deb

    my comment wasn’t based on anything you’ve said on here or any specific Steeler fan has said on here. it’s from people i know who are Steelers fans, from people i’ve talked to on many different sites that are Steelers fans, and from some people on here that are Steelers fans.

  71. steelcurtainn says: Aug 5, 2011 12:55 AM

    “two superbowls wins have come against the nfc west teams and consider them very lucky”.

    The steelers won those 2 superbowls against seattle and arizona and there was no luck involved just like they lost last year. If thats the case you could say Green Bay was lucky. Green Bay upset the steelers last year and could of easily lost that game but they didnt. Just like the steelers coulld have lost to Arizona but they did not. The steelers are right where they should be. Just be thankful for you and other anti-steeler fans that they didnt win all 3 superbowls. It has nothing to do with going against a battle tested team. Remember Arizona had Kurt Warner and I am sure he was more then battle tested. I will agree the steelers secondary got torched but that doesnt mean they couldnt win the game even with Polamalu not being helathy. Sorry, but your post is irrelevant.

  72. bensstinkyfingers says: Aug 5, 2011 1:06 AM

    @Deb
    Well I am glad you got to see some championships, now it’s time to be a good rival and share! Lol As for my comments towards steeler fans, I didn’t mean to lump you in with the rest. I actually believe you are one of the few Steeler fans with class and intelligence. Fight the good fight! Go Browns!

  73. truthserum4u says: Aug 5, 2011 6:26 AM

    stairwayto7 says:
    Aug 4, 2011 6:26 PM

    I say their are over 170 post about this and no will say Ray Lewis is a murderer

    Hey, I never committed murder; I simply helped out those who did.

    - Ray Lewis

  74. truthserum4u says: Aug 5, 2011 6:35 AM

    scudbot -

    No one cares about all that garbage about Chmura! He was drinking in a hot tub with under age girls. Can’t make that look pretty by simply putting a bow on it. Chmura’s main witness in that case was a teenage dude who looked up to him and saw him as a god. No surprise in the dirction is testimony went.

  75. truthserum4u says: Aug 5, 2011 7:36 AM

    Deb says:
    Aug 4, 2011 11:33 PM

    Evidence in Georgia showed no crime occurred, so there was never a case to drop. The DA said the matter will not be revisited.

    ——————————-

    Deb -

    That’s not accurate. The DA didn’t feel there was enough evidence to secure a conviction, so the case was dropped. That’s not the same as the evidence showing no crime occurred.

    “I don’t have enough evidence to convince 12 jurors beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Roethlisberger would be guilty of a crime of rape.”

    - Ocmulgee Judicial Circuit DA Fredric D. Bright

    The woman was taken to Oconee Regional Medical Center in Milledgeville, where she was examined by an emergency room doctor and two nurses. Their medical evaluation of her reported superficial laceration, bruising and slight bleeding in the genital area, but the doctor could not say whether the injuries were from any kind of trauma or sexual assault.

    “A standard collection of evidence was conducted, but there was no evidence of semen,” Mr. Bright said.

    The GBI Crime Lab in Atlanta found human male DNA present, but because the sample was so minute, it would not yield a profile.

    - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    With all the drinking that went on who knows what really happened in GA. Now this Neveda case, with all of the girl’s correspondence, sure looks like the evidence will clear him.

  76. walkinginthewasteland says: Aug 5, 2011 9:22 AM

    tyler200829 says: Aug 4, 2011 6:53 PM

    @tk1966, too bad you dont know what you are talking about. She wants money from him for being negatively portrayed by bens distgusting choice. Dont you think if it was a money grab they would have dropped the case? idiot
    _______________

    Wrong, but that wont stop you. She cant drop it. She isn’t paying anything. If she drops it, she has to pay for her lawyers time. As it is, the lawyer has been hoping for the nuisance payoff. It hasn’t happen and wont. It will go to court, and her case will get shredded by testimony about her own behavior.

  77. dmobey says: Aug 5, 2011 9:39 AM

    Deb says:
    Aug 4, 2011 11:33 PM

    Evidence in Georgia showed no crime occurred, so there was never a case to drop. The DA said the matter will not be revisited.

    **********************************

    Uhhh, no.

    What the DA decided (despite your self proclaimed inside information) was that there was not enough evidence to likely be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that fat Ben is a rapist.

    Period.

  78. dmobey says: Aug 5, 2011 9:48 AM

    BTW, what happened to this case being dropped as evidence that no crime occurred?

    Oh wait, maybe those proclaiming intimate knowledge really just want to be intimate with PigBen.

  79. bunkmcnulty says: Aug 5, 2011 9:55 AM

    Ravens fan here. No real story. He probably was not a good boy with this girl, but I now think this is just a money ploy by this girl.

    Do I think Ben is dumb and stupid for putting himself in this position? Yes. Was he extremely stupid in the Georgia thing? Yes. Has he done a lot of stupid things, even in the Pittsburgh community? Yes. Were Pittsburgh people pretty ticked at him (for a while)? Yes. Does he rip the hearts out of Ravens fans every year? Unfortunately Yes!

    Real question is, why is he wearing #78 in the photo above?

    (Hoping we can beat #78, or #7, whatever the hell it is, this year).

  80. Deb says: Aug 5, 2011 11:55 AM

    @ravensfan4life52 …

    Okay. To quote Harry Nilsson, usually “everybody’s talkin’ at me,” and I just try to make sure my posts are accurate. Can’t account for every Steelers fan.

    @bensstinkyfingers …

    Thanks! The Browns will rise again :)

  81. Deb says: Aug 5, 2011 12:16 PM

    @truthserum4u & dmobey …

    Yes, Fred Bright made the obligatory announcement that there wasn’t enough evidence to charge. That’s the common announcement in these cases. But dmobey, because I do know someone who worked the case, I know they felt they had less than nothing and were convinced the women fabricated the accusation. If you privately ask anyone who worked the case–in the GBI or Bright’s office–that’s what they’ll tell you.

    truthserum4u, if you’d done further research on those medical findings, as I did, you’d have learned it was slight vaginal bruising and a small bleeding scratch. That’s also consistent with consensual sex, and the scratch could have occurred while wiping–especially in her condition. Not only did they not find semen, they didn’t find chemicals from a condom, pubic hair, or any of the bodily fluids left behind from intercourse.

    The one speck of DNA found on her person was so small and degraded it could not be tested for identification using the PCR method, which is currently the most advanced method for testing in these circumstances. Based on this, the supposition would be that sample was left after she showered following a much earlier sexual encounter. When asked at the press conference if she’d had sex with anyone else that day, Fred Bright said he could not violate her privacy.

    No one knows what happened in the less than 10 minutes they were in the bathroom. I’m quite sure they went back there for some consensual sexual purpose and she later complained in a written statement that he just dumped her there without a word. She wasn’t too happy about that–and hell hath no fury… But given the lack of hair and semen, it’s evident her allegation was false. Multiple witnesses also ruled out the story about the bodyguard at the door. Her own written statement ruled out that tall tale as well.

    And dmobey … I make these posts because it irks me to see liars portrayed as victims and innocent men called rapists. But I think Ben is an idiot and resent that he’s put Steelers fans in this position. Just because I’m female doesn’t mean I want to jump the QB. I’d rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than date Roethlisberger.

  82. Deb says: Aug 5, 2011 12:18 PM

    @bunkmcnulty …

    My favorite post on the board. That about sums it up for me … except I don’t mind that he rips your hearts out ;)

  83. ravenator says: Aug 5, 2011 2:22 PM

    @Deb

    I laugh at how much time you waste on this individual. Get a life.

  84. bunkmcnulty says: Aug 5, 2011 3:08 PM

    @Deb,

    How do you time to write as much as you do?

    Also, no one answered why that jersey number?

  85. Deb says: Aug 5, 2011 3:55 PM

    @ravenator …

    Glad to lend some humor to the empty world of a guy who spends his days trolling rival fans’ threads to bad-mouth their players. I’m too busy for that kind of nonsense.

    @bunkmcnulty …

    I write for a living, buck. It comes naturally … and I’m fast.

    Maybe he’s paying tribute to Mad Dog White.

  86. dmobey says: Aug 5, 2011 7:38 PM

    “A standard collection of evidence was conducted, but there was no evidence of semen,” Mr. Bright said.

    *****************************

    What are you, 1930′s?

    Do you have any idea what constitutes rape?

    Semen is not a requirement.

    You’re pathetic.

  87. Deb says: Aug 5, 2011 9:57 PM

    @dmobey …

    Yes, I know what constitutes rape because I’ve been held down by someone who sneaked into my room in the middle of the night and forced to have sex against my will while I fought like hell. How about you? No, you’re just a troll who’s been making vicious and vulgar comments to me on this Web site for months because you hate a football team.

    The woman alleged vaginal rape–that means penetration. No, it doesn’t have to mean completion. But it is impossible for a normal male to penetrate a woman without leaving any trace of semen, pubic hair, condom lubricant, seminal fluid, or any other sign of his presence. Yet no sign of any recent sexual encounter was found. In addition, she changed her story repeatedly, she contradicted her friend who claimed a bodyguard was at the door–and so did every other witness.

    The DA said in explaining why he did not press charges that he hoped these sorority women had learned their less. He made it clear in his statement that the authorities believed they were dealing with a false allegation. You choose to dishonor real rape victims and to harass me in particular with your vulgarities over something as petty as a football rivalry. I guess that makes you feel puffed up with pride as you sit at your computer. But you are the one who’s pathetic and you will answer to your maker one day for the oilspot where your soul should be.

  88. dmobey says: Aug 5, 2011 10:25 PM

    Blah, blah, blah

    Of course, you know it all.

    Yet you’re consistently wrong.

    Again, since you’re “THE EXPERT” it’s weird you think vaginal penetration is necessary for rape.

    Question – do you get cramps from twisting yourself so many ways to excuse your infatuation?

  89. dmobey says: Aug 5, 2011 10:26 PM

    BTW – and let me guess – you got turned down for all the sororities, right?

    I’m sure it was all them.

  90. Deb says: Aug 5, 2011 11:56 PM

    moderators … you let dmobey continue to make piggish comments to a rape survivor but you won’t let me respond in a civilized way to him? Let me guess … you’re male. He’s made some horrific comments to me and I honestly have no idea why he’s still allowed to post on this site. Oh wait … yes, I do … you’re male. Sometimes when you block my comments, I understand your reasoning–and agree with it. This is not one of those times. If you’d ever been through what I have, you wouldn’t find rape so funny … and you wouldn’t enable this cretin.

  91. Deb says: Aug 5, 2011 11:58 PM

    @dmobey …

    No, I think vaginal penetration is required for vaginal rape, which is what the Milledgeville accuser alleged. She didn’t allege any other sex act, so there’s no reason to discuss any other sex act. That should be obvious.

    My comments have followed the evidence since this situation began and have never deviated from that path, so no twisting has been required. I have also defended Ray Lewis and many other players; infactuation has nothing to do with it. You might be 12, but I’m a grown woman, and my only interest in this is legal. And no, I’ve never been turned down by a sorority. You and I clearly have different principles and priorities in life. Please stop judging me by yours.

  92. truthserum4u says: Aug 6, 2011 12:42 AM

    Deb –

    Still – a lack of evidence doesn’t mean it’s proof a crime wasn’t committed. History is filled with such cases.

    You continue to make assumptions and interpretations that aren’t neccessarily accurate.

    “The DA said in explaining why he did not press charges that he hoped these sorority women had learned their less. He made it clear in his statement that the authorities believed they were dealing with a false allegation.”

    I read the DA’s statement and I must have missed the part where he said he hoped the girls learned a lesson – it’s possible though. I did see where he told Ben to “grow up” and “you’re better than that”. His statement implied he thought something happened although it probably wasn’t rape. He never gave an indication that he thought her allegation was false, but rather her recollection of that night was unclear due to her intoxication.

    You on the otherhand called the girl a liar just because her account of that night was inconsistant. She was drunk Deb! Most people can’t recall what exactly happened while they were intoxicated; it doesn’t mean they’re being deceitful. Drunken memories change all the time.

    It’s entirely possible (and I believe probable) that Ben was doing less than intercourse but more than kissing and she didn’t consent to it. And in her condition it seemd like more. After all, Roethlisberger later told a friend who was with him that night that he was “in the back with a girl and they were ‘messing around.” Seems more likely than the classic, albeit stereotypical ,”woman scorned” take.

  93. truthserum4u says: Aug 6, 2011 12:54 AM

    Deb,

    I too have had many of my comments blocked or removed when responding to someone else’s posts. I used a common sense approach, no nasty language or comments; not even insults. Never could figure out why they blocked them.

    You just got to ignore the immature rants, attacks and insults. I know you know that!

    I personally like to debate, give props where they’re due and call out the trolls.

    By the way, you and I had a couple of debates, taking opposite sides on the lockout awhile back. I cannot tell you how refreshing it was to finally see the sides sit down and discuss the the issues and work it out. Something I think you and I could have done in about a week. LOL! (I still side with the players on Goodell being judge, jury and arbitration judge though) In any case, it was great to see them work together – that’s another reason we love this sport!

  94. ravenator says: Aug 6, 2011 1:00 AM

    @Deb

    Um, regardless of what may have happened to you, I wouldn’t post it to the world to read on PFT of all forums…just a thought.

    Cheers!

  95. dmobey says: Aug 6, 2011 10:54 AM

    Deb says:
    Aug 5, 2011 11:56 PM
    moderators … you let dmobey continue to make piggish comments to a rape survivor but you won’t let me respond in a civilized way to him? Let me guess … you’re male. He’s made some horrific comments to me and I honestly have no idea why he’s still allowed to post on this site. Oh wait … yes, I do … you’re male. Sometimes when you block my comments, I understand your reasoning–and agree with it. This is not one of those times. If you’d ever been through what I have, you wouldn’t find rape so funny … and you wouldn’t enable this cretin.

    ***************************

    And now the plea from the self proclaimed victim to get whomever disagrees banned.

    Very mature Deb.

    The fact remains that you have, since the Pig incident, tried to proclaim superior knowledge, but really are just making excuses for your crush. It’s sad that you are so willing to denigrate a woman who was molested if not flat out raped just because of an infatuation with your QB.

    Many of my posts aren’t posted either so quit whining.

    If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

  96. Deb says: Aug 6, 2011 12:30 PM

    @ravenator …

    I blurted it out last year in a knee-jerk reaction to a woman ranting at me for defending rapists. Have regretted it a thousand times since, but what’s done is done. It can’t hurt me anymore, and this has been cathartic in a weird way.

    @truthserum4u …

    The transcripts aren’t complete, which is pretty annoying. Bright talked for 71 minutes, then answered questions, then yielded the floor to local police, then came back and made additional comments. Whether or not people believe me, I do have a close friend who worked the investigation. The investigators did not find the women and her friends credible, and there was no evidence of an assault. I’m not jumping to conclusions. Have done enormous research on the medical findings and testing methods. I used to write for a medical research group, so I’m accustomed to reviewing that kind of data.

    Although I try to be objective, my bias always swings toward accusers … as it did when the Nevada accusation was made. At that time, the complaint–including her detailed account of the incident–was available for download. I researched everything in that case thoroughly. Just speaking as someone who’s dealt with a lot of victims, her statement of events is odd. It’s about 37 pages. Her details of the “assault” are minimal but she spends pages ranting about her coworkers. With her text messages, etc.–plus the fact that she was heavily in debt–it’s pretty clear she was just trying to make $$$. Most people believed Ben was innocent of that accusation.

    With Georgia, a lot of people started thinking “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.” What they should have been thinking was: “Why would a guy wrongly accused of assault in Nevada suddenly go out and assault someone else while that case was pending?”

    You are a logical thinker. Ponder that. And while you’re pondering it, remember that the accuser’s friend in Georgia was ragging Ben about the Nevada lawsuit and he personally ejected her from the party. She was the one who instigated the accusation and invented the story about the bodyguard at the door. We know that story was invented because it was refuted by multiple witnesses and it even conflicted with the accuser’s written statement.

    People also talk about another situation when Ben got drunk at the golf course and an employee drove him home. He dropped his pants and told her, “Do with me as you will.” She left. People want to cite that as a pattern of behavior. It is … a pattern of drunken boorishness. But it’s not a pattern of being a sexual predator. He’s 6’5″, 240 or better. He was drunk and frisky. They were alone in his house. No witnesses. But she left unmolested. I’ve always said the guy has been a jackass. But there’s a difference between a jackass and a rapist.

    I could kick Ben for creating all this drama, though I hold out hope he’ll mature. But it’s like fingernails on a blackboard hearing these women portrayed as victims when they’re not. I try not to respond, but …. sigh. :(

  97. Deb says: Aug 6, 2011 12:35 PM

    @truthserum4u …

    Oh … btw … sometimes the moderators block posts for reasons only their mothers could understand :) But sometimes I’ve been glad later that they curbed my worst impulses. Usually when they block me, I can figure out why and rewrite.

    @dmobey …

    I’ve handled more heat in my life and on these threads than you could imagine. But writers have said they want intelligent discourse and your repeated personal attacks on me are not attempts at intelligent discourse. In fact, I’ve never seen you attempt intelligent discourse on any football topic.

    Incidentally, it seems you are the one whining because I complained about your vulgar behavior. If you can’t take it …

  98. Deb says: Aug 6, 2011 2:18 PM

    @truthserum4u …

    Oh … that was an erroneous report about what Roethlisberger told his friend. Not true. Yeah, I believe they went back there for some consensual sexual purpose. And I’m calling her a liar because she initially said they didn’t even have sex–which is what the exam showed–but changed her story to match her friend’s. She was drunk, but she was on her feet and talking. That means she was lucid enough to know whether they had intercourse.

    She had followed him to three clubs and propositioned him all evening in front of multiple witnesses. In a later investigative report, SI quoted her friends as saying she was obsessed with Roethlisberger and went searching for him as soon as she heard he was in town. I don’t believe she suddenly got back there and changed her mind. She complained in her written statement that he just dumped her there and left. He was also extremely intoxicated … perhaps too intoxicated to follow through. Hell hath no fury like a revved up woman left disappointed in a dirty bathroom by the object of her obsession and nightlong pursuit.

  99. dmobey says: Aug 8, 2011 9:35 PM

    Someone on here should write a fiction book.

    Oh wait, they already have.

    Over and over and over.

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