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Report: Goodell will retain full control over conduct policy under new CBA

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Commissioner Roger Goodell dug in his heels regarding his ability to have full control over all discipline imposed, or not imposed, under the personal conduct policy.

He’ll reportedly get what he wants.

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, Goodell will keep that power under the new CBA.

It’s not yet known why the NFLPA caved on the reasonable and fair position that some outside entity should have the ability to review Goodell’s decisions.  The fact that the policy actually impacts only a handful of players every year probably influenced the outcome.  If the NFLPA could trade a concession from the league that helps all players for a provision that impacts not many at all, maybe that was a good deal.

That said, I think I’ve finally figured out why Goodell wants to maintain exclusive control over the policy.  And I’ll share it during the opening segment of today’s PFT Live.

There’s a name for that device in the broadcasting industry.  I’ll tell you what that name is in segment three of today’s PFT Live.

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46 Responses to “Report: Goodell will retain full control over conduct policy under new CBA”
  1. hendawg21 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:07 AM

    I don’t really care so no you’re not going to hold me hostage to hear what it is you could’ve just put in this article…

  2. tomsd1 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:09 AM

    Appreciate you in depth coverage but this was a no-brainer – and hey – where’s my 50 beans? :)

  3. axespray says: Aug 4, 2011 10:09 AM

    What a softy, he should just let Brandon Merriweather headbutt tha’ soft Todd Heaps of tha’ world….
    It’s tha’ way the game is suppose’t to be played…

    (gets in a bar fight, aborts a baby, gets fined)
    …Goodell is a devil!

  4. tomsd1 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:11 AM

    Oh – you don’t think the owners like having Goodell as their spear carrier? Somebody has to look after the various miscerants,which in the NFL are becoming more common as the inmates keep making the big denaro.

  5. skoobyfl says: Aug 4, 2011 10:11 AM

    Just like a Sith Lord needing unlimited power.

  6. daburgher says: Aug 4, 2011 10:11 AM

    if Goodell ran for president, it would be for the communist party. Goodell is the biggest hypocrite. “I care about safety, but I could care less about what helmets you use. Helmet to helmet pssh I dont mind if a RB uses his head as a battering ram, but if you play defense you better play soft”
    I wish the owners were smart enough to appoint someone who actually has played the game before.. this clown probably doesnt even know how to put shoulder pads on.

  7. 3octaveFart says: Aug 4, 2011 10:12 AM

    Time to dust off the punishment dartboard Roger…

  8. mommydrank says: Aug 4, 2011 10:13 AM

    I don’t care about the personal conduct policy. Was there any change to the ridiculous policy that allows the league to fine defensive players just for making hard, legal hits on the football field?

  9. jessieboom says: Aug 4, 2011 10:14 AM

    Good. I have no problem with Goodell punishing anyone acting a fool.

  10. mac3333 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:15 AM

    NFLPA caved. I would have held the hardline. The owners then would have had to tell ole Rog to back down.

    NFLPA must be getting advice from the Spineless one named Barack.

  11. philtvc65 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:18 AM

    At least we should now return to full football without a hitch, fingers crossed.

  12. rsh1023 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:20 AM

    so i guess that Ryan Clark comment yesterday was bupkis?

    the only ones who have a problem with Goodell handing out proper discipline is the Steelers anyway so who cares

  13. billygoat says: Aug 4, 2011 10:20 AM

    I don’t mind him being in charge but if you appeal it should be somebody else’s decision.

  14. zoxitic says: Aug 4, 2011 10:21 AM

    It’s good to be the king.

  15. raven410 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:23 AM

    Shocker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. philtvc65 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:23 AM

    I was an OL and there is helmet to helmet on every single down, just look a linemans helmet crown !! It’s very hard as a tackler not to hit with the helmet at times, as the ball carrier rarely runs in straight predictable lines and both are moving at full speed.

  17. 3octaveFart says: Aug 4, 2011 10:23 AM

    jessieboom says: Aug 4, 2011 10:14 AM

    “Good. I have no problem with Goodell punishing anyone acting a fool.”

    Neither do I.
    What I have a problem with is, sometimes he does, and sometimes he doesn’t.

  18. rugdog100 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:30 AM

    An arbitrator would be a good thing in the StapCaps case. League rule said that banned substances that are contained in a product is punishable, which it should be. But the StarCaps weight loss product, that contained a banned ingredient, did not list it on the package labeling. Also, the StarCaps product was not listed by the NFL as a banned product. So the players using the product took the banned substance unwittingly. The manufacturer AND the NFL screwed up and instead of acknowledging the screw-up, they suspended the players for 4 games… that would be bulls**t and the reason that an abritrator is necessary in SOME cases.

  19. rpiotr01 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:31 AM

    I agree with what Goodell is trying to do, but I wish he’d use a more prudent hand when it comes to hits that are clearly incidental.

    Launching head first at the ball carrier is one thing. If the defensive player is making the tackle with his head up and shoulder and arms first and the ball carrier’s head pops up into the defensive player’s helmet, that should not be a fine, but I think a few players were fined over similar such hits last year.

  20. broncobeta says: Aug 4, 2011 10:33 AM

    Is it wrong to be excited about this just because it pisses the players off?

  21. geo1113 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:38 AM

    billygoat says:
    Aug 4, 2011 10:20 AM
    I don’t mind him being in charge but if you appeal it should be somebody else’s decision.
    ______________

    Who?

  22. nolanorth says: Aug 4, 2011 10:39 AM

    for the entire time of the lockout:

    -all the polls
    -the thumbs up and down
    -our perception of the players vs owners

    it always seems to swing 2:1 in favour of the NFL and it’s owners vs the players..

    Educated vs un-educated

  23. marvsleezy says: Aug 4, 2011 10:39 AM

    I know this isnt a big deal to most people but I think it would have been great if the players could have negotiated for the right to be able to do whatever they want in the endzone as far as dancing goes. No props like cell phones, but if you want to do a group celebration I think it should be legal.

    Its Sad that the players couldnt even pull that off, but they got paid, so I guess they are happy.

  24. rugdog100 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:48 AM

    In the leagal system, if you appeal, it doesn’t keep coming before the same judge time after time. . . that’s ridiculous.

  25. FinFan68 says: Aug 4, 2011 10:53 AM

    Don’t all major sports commissioners handle discipline? I think Goodell should be more active in addressing the discipline issues throughout the league but he does need to be more consistent with what is addressed and what isn’t. If an infraction is worth addressing for one player, it should be addressed for all players. The players status or jersey sales should never have an influence. No more perceived prejudice. The punishment will be different because each player’s history will have an impact but the act itself should be the sole determining factor for league involvement.

  26. naygerkid says: Aug 4, 2011 10:54 AM

    Who cares who has the power. Players just shouldn’t get in trouble. As long as nobody is getting raped (Roethlisberger) and nobody does anything illegal with drugs (Travis henry) then there wouldn’t be any suspensions to hand down.

  27. andrewfbrowne says: Aug 4, 2011 10:54 AM

    For everyone who wants to criticize the NFL personal conduct policy should look at Mick Vick and realize that what he is doing is working. What Vick has done is a story of personal transformation that the commissioner was heavily involved in and did everything he could to save MV and engender the process of him returning to greatness.

    Then on the other side you have,

    People should not take James Harrison seriously at all, he is guy who will not go to the White House, because and I quote, “The president should go to the Pittsburgh Steelers and not the other way around.” I am sorry but I like Vicks story a little better than the undrafted guy who is pissed at the world and thinks it should reside at his feet.

  28. hobartbaker says: Aug 4, 2011 10:56 AM

    Raj continues to stare down De Smith. Even though the NFLPA exec has blinked, closed his eyes, squeezed them shut, tried a blindfold, and finally gouged them both out and thrown them away in despair.

  29. tom35mt says: Aug 4, 2011 11:02 AM

    Better keep it in your pants Ben !!

  30. dexterismyhero says: Aug 4, 2011 11:17 AM

    Play by the rules kids!!!!

  31. scubasteve4930 says: Aug 4, 2011 11:18 AM

    soooo when will i hear if Talib will be suspended or not???

  32. aquanorange says: Aug 4, 2011 11:25 AM

    Objective observers don’t have a problem with the Commish meting out punishment. Further, he works FOR the owners, so it follows that he’s got the owners’ imprimatur.

    The anti-Goodell camp seem to fall into one of two camps:
    a) those who believe the game is becoming “soft”.
    b)those who believe their particular team is being targeted.

    A compelling case may be made that the elimination of dangerous hits will benefit the players as well as the NFL brand, without the game becoming touch football. A case may also be made that fans of certain teams feel that eliminating dirty play may deprive their team of what they see as a “comparative advantage”. Dick Butkus had no problem tackling, and didn’t need to spear anyone in the process. Was the game “soft” in his era?

  33. GG Eden says: Aug 4, 2011 11:34 AM

    2011 season is going to riddled with further problems: ridiculous new rules where QBs cant be hit in the act of throwing, receivers cant be hit in the act of catching, and a ton of fines and contradictory punishments/non-punishments metered out.

    NFL is not going to be attractive to spectate and support, it’s turning more and more into Arena Football.

    There needs to be a balance kept between the old ‘three yards and a cloud of dust’ era and the new era of touch football.

  34. ibeshane says: Aug 4, 2011 11:38 AM

    I relate this to fat people and seat belts. They have to fasten them, because it’s the law. However they are too tight, therefore they complain. Even though seat belts could save their lives….

  35. steelersmichele says: Aug 4, 2011 11:41 AM

    So the Steelers and their fans will be the only ones that have a problem with Goodell’s fines? Uh-huh. That’s what was said last season until players from other teams started getting fines. Then all of a sudden other coaches fans were upset.

    No one cares about Goodell and his power and fines until it happens to their team. How do I know? John Harbaugh slammed the Steelers and Harrison last season for not hitting properly and getting fined for it. Then, when one of his own players got fined for an illegal hit, he said this:

    Harbaugh on Jameel McClain: “There was nothing he can do. I can’t imagine why they fined him so much…He did everything humanly possible to hit the tight end low. You fine a guy $40,000 for trying to apply the rule. He tried to do something that’s against the rule of physics. I say you’re taking someone’s money unfairly.”

    As with anything in life, as long as it doesn’t affect you, it’s not that important.

  36. geo1113 says: Aug 4, 2011 11:47 AM

    rugdog100 says:
    Aug 4, 2011 10:48 AM
    In the leagal system, if you appeal, it doesn’t keep coming before the same judge time after time. . . that’s ridiculous
    ___________________

    The NFL is not the legal system.

  37. steelers4385 says: Aug 4, 2011 11:49 AM

    Dirtbag Obama should have visited the steelers when they won. And the packers. That guy deservs zero respect and im glad harrison wouldnt visit. By numbers….obama statistically is the worst president ever. And its gettn old with harrison jokes. Who cares if the guy hates the world… Ive said it before and ill say it again.. Its none of your buisness what the players do in their personal lives. Most of you work 9 to 5 lame jobs and have no idea what hard work is. Id like to see one of you chumps play a season with a back injury that makes urnlegs go numb and still get double digit sacks. Some of u disgust me and ur comments are repulsive. Id like to meet some of you face to face and smack ur saliva glands right out the side of your mouths. Get. Life scumbags.

  38. hit2hurt says: Aug 4, 2011 11:53 AM

    Nice “tease”.. LOL

  39. billybats says: Aug 4, 2011 12:05 PM

    I love the fact that these knucklehead players have a genuine fear of being sent to the principal’s office. That was not in place under Tagliabue. These gang-bangers had better watch out–the Commissioner is on the job.

  40. pahahaha says: Aug 4, 2011 12:07 PM

    Allowing any Man absolute power will always be a detriment to the people.

  41. dumbaseinstien says: Aug 4, 2011 12:08 PM

    “jessieboom says: Aug 4, 2011 10:14 AM
    Good. I have no problem with Goodell punishing anyone acting a fool.”

    Then, he should be fining you…

    There is no debate as to whether people should be held accountable for their actions. The question is who holds that power, what actions should incur punishment & is there a 2nd body to review decisions to insure fairness. It appears to many that Goodell is more interesting in altering the outcome of games by applying the rules differently from player-to-player, team-to-team. This could be as simple as he likes or dislikes particular players &/or teams or it could be just his big ego-minded head applying punishments disproportionately. Either way, there should be a review process. Can you imagine what our nation would look like if just one person got to make the decisions? Sort of like China or Russia.

  42. elwaysbrain says: Aug 4, 2011 12:22 PM

    Something tells me he doesn’t want to give away all the control he has because that would mean he’d be useless. And therefore nobody would pay him 15 mil. dollars per year. I’d dig my in heels alright for that money.

  43. CKL says: Aug 4, 2011 12:34 PM

    steelersmichele says:
    Aug 4, 2011 11:41 AM
    So the Steelers and their fans will be the only ones that have a problem with Goodell’s fines? Uh-huh. That’s what was said last season until players from other teams started getting fines. Then all of a sudden other coaches fans were upset.

    No one cares about Goodell and his power and fines until it happens to their team. How do I know? John Harbaugh slammed the Steelers and Harrison last season for not hitting properly and getting fined for it. Then, when one of his own players got fined for an illegal hit, he said this:

    Harbaugh on Jameel McClain: “There was nothing he can do. I can’t imagine why they fined him so much…He did everything humanly possible to hit the tight end low. You fine a guy $40,000 for trying to apply the rule. He tried to do something that’s against the rule of physics. I say you’re taking someone’s money unfairly.”

    As with anything in life, as long as it doesn’t affect you, it’s not that important.
    __________________________________
    Harbaugh isn’t a good example. Whining to the media and hypocrisy go hand in hand on the Ravens. :P

  44. bunjy96 says: Aug 4, 2011 12:35 PM

    The only thing I see wrong is that the league uses a flat rate number.

    It unfair to the players they make less money.

    Example:
    Player A makes $500k
    Player B makes $250K.

    The fine is $10K

    Player B ends up paying a higher % of his gross income. 4% VS 2%

    What not do it by percentage of the players salary? All would then be paying equally as a part of their income.

  45. depotnator says: Aug 4, 2011 12:44 PM

    It’s not important ‘why’ – so I can avoid the bait.

  46. prior0knowledge says: Aug 4, 2011 12:56 PM

    Goodall is the commissioner. He should have the ultimate and final authority to protect the game. That is what his job is. And that is as it should be. Done. Over. Fini.

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