Comments on: Report: Goodell will retain full control over conduct policy under new CBA

By: prior0knowledge

prior0knowledge — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:56:58 +0000

Goodall is the commissioner. He should have the ultimate and final authority to protect the game. That is what his job is. And that is as it should be. Done. Over. Fini.

By: depotnator

depotnator — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:44:06 +0000

It’s not important ‘why’ – so I can avoid the bait.

By: bunjy96

bunjy96 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:35:50 +0000

The only thing I see wrong is that the league uses a flat rate number.

It unfair to the players they make less money.

Example:
Player A makes $500k
Player B makes $250K.

The fine is $10K

Player B ends up paying a higher % of his gross income. 4% VS 2%

What not do it by percentage of the players salary? All would then be paying equally as a part of their income.

By: CKL

CKL — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:34:27 +0000

steelersmichele says:
Aug 4, 2011 11:41 AM
So the Steelers and their fans will be the only ones that have a problem with Goodell’s fines? Uh-huh. That’s what was said last season until players from other teams started getting fines. Then all of a sudden other coaches fans were upset.

No one cares about Goodell and his power and fines until it happens to their team. How do I know? John Harbaugh slammed the Steelers and Harrison last season for not hitting properly and getting fined for it. Then, when one of his own players got fined for an illegal hit, he said this:

Harbaugh on Jameel McClain: “There was nothing he can do. I can’t imagine why they fined him so much…He did everything humanly possible to hit the tight end low. You fine a guy $40,000 for trying to apply the rule. He tried to do something that’s against the rule of physics. I say you’re taking someone’s money unfairly.”

As with anything in life, as long as it doesn’t affect you, it’s not that important.
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Harbaugh isn’t a good example. Whining to the media and hypocrisy go hand in hand on the Ravens.

By: elwaysbrain

elwaysbrain — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:22:22 +0000

Something tells me he doesn’t want to give away all the control he has because that would mean he’d be useless. And therefore nobody would pay him 15 mil. dollars per year. I’d dig my in heels alright for that money.

By: dumbaseinstien

dumbaseinstien — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:08:03 +0000

“jessieboom says: Aug 4, 2011 10:14 AM
Good. I have no problem with Goodell punishing anyone acting a fool.”

Then, he should be fining you…

There is no debate as to whether people should be held accountable for their actions. The question is who holds that power, what actions should incur punishment & is there a 2nd body to review decisions to insure fairness. It appears to many that Goodell is more interesting in altering the outcome of games by applying the rules differently from player-to-player, team-to-team. This could be as simple as he likes or dislikes particular players &/or teams or it could be just his big ego-minded head applying punishments disproportionately. Either way, there should be a review process. Can you imagine what our nation would look like if just one person got to make the decisions? Sort of like China or Russia.

By: pahahaha

pahahaha — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:07:47 +0000

Allowing any Man absolute power will always be a detriment to the people.

By: billybats

billybats — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:05:38 +0000

I love the fact that these knucklehead players have a genuine fear of being sent to the principal’s office. That was not in place under Tagliabue. These gang-bangers had better watch out–the Commissioner is on the job.

By: hit2hurt

hit2hurt — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:53:16 +0000

Nice “tease”.. LOL

By: steelers4385

steelers4385 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:49:25 +0000

Dirtbag Obama should have visited the steelers when they won. And the packers. That guy deservs zero respect and im glad harrison wouldnt visit. By numbers….obama statistically is the worst president ever. And its gettn old with harrison jokes. Who cares if the guy hates the world… Ive said it before and ill say it again.. Its none of your buisness what the players do in their personal lives. Most of you work 9 to 5 lame jobs and have no idea what hard work is. Id like to see one of you chumps play a season with a back injury that makes urnlegs go numb and still get double digit sacks. Some of u disgust me and ur comments are repulsive. Id like to meet some of you face to face and smack ur saliva glands right out the side of your mouths. Get. Life scumbags.

By: geo1113

geo1113 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:47:15 +0000

rugdog100 says:
Aug 4, 2011 10:48 AM
In the leagal system, if you appeal, it doesn’t keep coming before the same judge time after time. . . that’s ridiculous
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The NFL is not the legal system.

By: steelersmichele

steelersmichele — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:41:13 +0000

So the Steelers and their fans will be the only ones that have a problem with Goodell’s fines? Uh-huh. That’s what was said last season until players from other teams started getting fines. Then all of a sudden other coaches fans were upset.

As with anything in life, as long as it doesn’t affect you, it’s not that important.

By: ibeshane

ibeshane — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:38:24 +0000

I relate this to fat people and seat belts. They have to fasten them, because it’s the law. However they are too tight, therefore they complain. Even though seat belts could save their lives….

By: GG Eden

GG Eden — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:34:40 +0000

2011 season is going to riddled with further problems: ridiculous new rules where QBs cant be hit in the act of throwing, receivers cant be hit in the act of catching, and a ton of fines and contradictory punishments/non-punishments metered out.

NFL is not going to be attractive to spectate and support, it’s turning more and more into Arena Football.

There needs to be a balance kept between the old ‘three yards and a cloud of dust’ era and the new era of touch football.

By: aquanorange

aquanorange — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:25:53 +0000

Objective observers don’t have a problem with the Commish meting out punishment. Further, he works FOR the owners, so it follows that he’s got the owners’ imprimatur.

The anti-Goodell camp seem to fall into one of two camps:
a) those who believe the game is becoming “soft”.
b)those who believe their particular team is being targeted.

A compelling case may be made that the elimination of dangerous hits will benefit the players as well as the NFL brand, without the game becoming touch football. A case may also be made that fans of certain teams feel that eliminating dirty play may deprive their team of what they see as a “comparative advantage”. Dick Butkus had no problem tackling, and didn’t need to spear anyone in the process. Was the game “soft” in his era?

By: scubasteve4930

scubasteve4930 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:18:14 +0000

soooo when will i hear if Talib will be suspended or not???

By: dexterismyhero

dexterismyhero — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:17:39 +0000

Play by the rules kids!!!!

By: tom35mt

tom35mt — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:02:09 +0000

Better keep it in your pants Ben !!

By: hobartbaker

hobartbaker — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:56:04 +0000

Raj continues to stare down De Smith. Even though the NFLPA exec has blinked, closed his eyes, squeezed them shut, tried a blindfold, and finally gouged them both out and thrown them away in despair.

By: andrewfbrowne

andrewfbrowne — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:54:35 +0000

For everyone who wants to criticize the NFL personal conduct policy should look at Mick Vick and realize that what he is doing is working. What Vick has done is a story of personal transformation that the commissioner was heavily involved in and did everything he could to save MV and engender the process of him returning to greatness.

Then on the other side you have,

People should not take James Harrison seriously at all, he is guy who will not go to the White House, because and I quote, “The president should go to the Pittsburgh Steelers and not the other way around.” I am sorry but I like Vicks story a little better than the undrafted guy who is pissed at the world and thinks it should reside at his feet.

By: naygerkid

naygerkid — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:54:18 +0000

Who cares who has the power. Players just shouldn’t get in trouble. As long as nobody is getting raped (Roethlisberger) and nobody does anything illegal with drugs (Travis henry) then there wouldn’t be any suspensions to hand down.

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:53:24 +0000

Don’t all major sports commissioners handle discipline? I think Goodell should be more active in addressing the discipline issues throughout the league but he does need to be more consistent with what is addressed and what isn’t. If an infraction is worth addressing for one player, it should be addressed for all players. The players status or jersey sales should never have an influence. No more perceived prejudice. The punishment will be different because each player’s history will have an impact but the act itself should be the sole determining factor for league involvement.

By: rugdog100

rugdog100 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:48:01 +0000

In the leagal system, if you appeal, it doesn’t keep coming before the same judge time after time. . . that’s ridiculous.

By: marvsleezy

marvsleezy — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:39:59 +0000

I know this isnt a big deal to most people but I think it would have been great if the players could have negotiated for the right to be able to do whatever they want in the endzone as far as dancing goes. No props like cell phones, but if you want to do a group celebration I think it should be legal.

Its Sad that the players couldnt even pull that off, but they got paid, so I guess they are happy.

By: nolanorth

nolanorth — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:39:26 +0000

for the entire time of the lockout:

-all the polls
-the thumbs up and down
-our perception of the players vs owners

it always seems to swing 2:1 in favour of the NFL and it’s owners vs the players..

Educated vs un-educated

By: geo1113

geo1113 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:38:08 +0000

billygoat says:
Aug 4, 2011 10:20 AM
I don’t mind him being in charge but if you appeal it should be somebody else’s decision.
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Who?

By: broncobeta

broncobeta — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:33:46 +0000

Is it wrong to be excited about this just because it pisses the players off?

By: rpiotr01

rpiotr01 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:31:30 +0000

I agree with what Goodell is trying to do, but I wish he’d use a more prudent hand when it comes to hits that are clearly incidental.

Launching head first at the ball carrier is one thing. If the defensive player is making the tackle with his head up and shoulder and arms first and the ball carrier’s head pops up into the defensive player’s helmet, that should not be a fine, but I think a few players were fined over similar such hits last year.

By: rugdog100

rugdog100 — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:30:18 +0000

An arbitrator would be a good thing in the StapCaps case. League rule said that banned substances that are contained in a product is punishable, which it should be. But the StarCaps weight loss product, that contained a banned ingredient, did not list it on the package labeling. Also, the StarCaps product was not listed by the NFL as a banned product. So the players using the product took the banned substance unwittingly. The manufacturer AND the NFL screwed up and instead of acknowledging the screw-up, they suspended the players for 4 games… that would be bulls**t and the reason that an abritrator is necessary in SOME cases.

By: 3octaveFart

3octaveFart — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:23:18 +0000

jessieboom says: Aug 4, 2011 10:14 AM

“Good. I have no problem with Goodell punishing anyone acting a fool.”

Neither do I.
What I have a problem with is, sometimes he does, and sometimes he doesn’t.