After all, that pretty much excuses past rapes AND preculdes future rapes.

Steeler IQ

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whackman says:
Aug 5, 2011 11:37 PM
chowface86 … get over it and move on…

Ben’s married…

Pure comic gold here.

Pure gold.

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I’m not a homer when it comes to rape. When it comes to rape, I’m a person who was victimized. My bias is always with the accuser, as it was when I heard the Nevada accusation

feel free to talk about our football team but dont make it about our city. whatever hole in the wall town you live in. Doubt youve ever been here and that warrants you ignorant. And if you think we dont deserve to get repped in a “sweet movie” you should contact the directors of the 138 films that have been shot here in the past 50 years… not all of us see the world through black and gold glasses therefore dont judge us if you lack the experience or credible opinion. haters are lame and you, my sassycat nemesis, happen to be a hater…

I’m not a homer when it comes to rape. When it comes to rape, I’m a person who was victimized. My bias is always with the accuser, as it was when I heard the Nevada accusation. The first thing I did was download her complaint, containing her detailed account of the incident, which I don’t think is still available online. Then I meticulously went through every official document presented and went over it with my brother, a successful criminal defense attorney. He’s worked on many of these cases, from both perspectives. And I’ve dealt with many victims, with trauma therapists, and other professionals in the field. I’ve also covered trials and written for medical research organizations. Never, in either case, did I rely on media reports for information.

Andrea McNulty’s personal story is quite complex, but there are time-stamped text messages from her to another individual sent within two days of the event stating that she couldn’t wait to see Ben again. There are time-stamped messages sent that night after the alleged assault to her “boyfriend” telling him he looks like Ben. She waited a year to file the suit for $3 million, after she was heavily in debt. She never filed any police complaint. I’m not going to take the time to go into the ethical breaches by her attorney in trying to use this situation to set up Harrah’s Casino–which has much deeper pockets than Ben. But the text messages alone are conclusive that their sexual encounter was consensual. And there are many, many other issue with her story.

Rather than thinking “where there’s smoke there’s fire,” if you accept that the evidence in Nevada exonerates Ben–and it does–then it’s ridiculous to think a man innocent of one alleged assault would go out and commit another while that one is pending. Again, I have read all the official files in this case–and have done a tremendous amount of research on those medical results. Those results were conclusive. So was the fact that her friend was ragging him about Nevada, was ejected from the party, then instigated the accusation. And she made up the story about the bodyguard, which was refuted by the other witnesses and the accuser’s own statement. This really isn’t a difficult case to follow.

It doesn’t matter if anyone believes me, but I also have a close friend who was an intricate member of the investigation. As a result of that, I rest easy knowing the authorities do not believe a sexual assault occurred and did not believe the women were credible.

You are right that Ben’s behavior was beyond idiotic, and I resent more than you know him putting Steelers fans in the position of having to deal with this nonsense. I hope he matures into a better man, but you’re right, he’ll carry the label forever. And stupid as he is, he doesn’t deserve that. I just hope karma catches up to the women.

@sassycat11teen …

The medical evidence shows no rape occurred in Georgia, and the Nevada woman texted after their one-night stand that she couldn’t wait to see him again.

But it’s great that one PFT commenter on this subject actually admits being a junior high kid.

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You really should stop misstating this if your interest is in accuracy.

The medical evidence does not show “no rape occurred”. There was just not enough evidence to show a rape did occur beyond a reasonable doubt. There’s a difference.

And in Nevada you are jumping to conclusions assuming the texts mentioned are the last word. Give the lady’s attorney a chance to scrutinize this yet to be substantiated evidence from biased sources before you pronounce the case closed please.

As I say, whatever mistakes Ben has made are in the past and if he proceeds on with better behavior, I’m glad of that.

But acting like it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that nothing happened is simply denial and exceedingly unfair to the accusers for what seems the sake of nothing more than being a homer.

Let’s just say that Ben has done some stupid things. But his stupidest was probably going out and being a party animal in Georgia after he was already behind the 8 ball in Nevada, whether he did anything or not.

Right or wrong, he is labeled forever by many.

Wish I could detach myself from it, but women making false allegations and these guys playing like it’s real make me ill. Used to believe there was no such thing as a false allegation because no woman would make that up. My brother practically had to hit me in the head with real evidence from his cases before I realized false allegations do happen … regularly. Sure, it’s easy for them to sit in court and tell these stories; it’s not traumatic to relate fictional stories. And it’s ridiculous that you can’t even read about a Batman film without having to wade through all that garbage. It’s like there are 10 serious football fans posting here and 10,000 12-year-olds. Wish they’d go back to scribbling with chalk on sidewalks where they belong.

Thank God you weren’t hurt. Can only imagine how frustrating it must have been to have your case handled that way. My brother’s had cases where the prosecutor brought him a plea deal without ever talking to the victim. It’s not supposed to work like that. The prosecutor is supposed to be your voice in the courtroom. It is a big deal, and I could throttle Hines. But I see a difference between a one-time idiot and chronic offenders. One-time idiots should get their licenses suspended even if they don’t hit anyone. Chronic offenders should lose their licenses and go to jail even if they don’t hit anyone. If you hit someone, you should get an automatic go-to-jail card.

I don’t have your experience and I am very sorry you did have that experience so perhaps that’s why that part is just more dumb smack talk I just put all in the same category.

Maybe it’s similar to the fact that I have a special loathing for drunk drivers because a drunk without a license or a job or insurance ran a stop sign and totaled my car and I had to pay for all of it and I was lucky I wasn’t severely hurt. The “prosecutor” plea bargained all charges away though she was a many time loser on OUI and I was not even allowed to present my side. It’s more personal to me so I get more emotional. People say things when players drive drunk like “oh no biggie, everyone does it, etc.” and I see red. Your situation was a billion times worse, so I can understand your feelings.

“One of the worst teams every other year”

What the hell are you talking about? The Steelers haven’t had a losing season in 8 years.

The fact that you don’t believe he’s a rapist should outweigh your outrage over a poorly worded defense. As a woman, I’d think you would be more outraged that the site keeps allowing all these rape jokes. Maybe if they had some firsthand experience they’d block the degrading comments instead of the factual ones.

The medical evidence shows no rape occurred in Georgia, and the Nevada woman texted after their one-night stand that she couldn’t wait to see him again.

But it’s great that one PFT commenter on this subject actually admits being a junior high kid.

Is it true Casey Anthony’s lawyers suggested she hide out in Pittsburgh because it was a proven haven for criminals???

Classic.

Oh….and ten bucks says that “Twinkle Toes” Ward asks for the lead in the dance scene.

jealous haters gonna hate.

Don’t be surprised if, when all the filming is done, they get back to Hollywood and the footage with the players ends up on the editing room floor. Thomas Tull will ask what happened, and he will be told that it “interrupted the films continuity”, which will be a nice way of saying “The movie is about Batman, not Pittsburgh.”

This outcome would happen regardless of the city or the team involved.

chowface86 … get over it and move on…

Ben’s married…
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Who knew that married men don’t rape people???
I don’t think he’s a rapist, but that’s a spurious defense for him.

“Yeah just tell the girl he raped to get over it”

You mean the girl with the DTF tag walking around telling anyone in the bar who cared to know that night that it stood for “Down to F$#K”?

Yea she was raped alright and the evidence was so convincing that charges were never even filed.

Gotta admit “Rape Crusader” is pretty funny though.