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	<title>Comments on: NFLPA paid $50 million for lockout insurance</title>
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		<title>By: jetsetfred</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1186552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jetsetfred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 03:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s like gambling!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like gambling!</p>
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		<title>By: getitdoneplz</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1182640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[getitdoneplz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who received the $7M commission.... De&#039;s brother?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who received the $7M commission&#8230;. De&#8217;s brother?</p>
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		<title>By: contract</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1181874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[contract]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spending $50m just to agree to a worse deal than you had? Nice job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spending $50m just to agree to a worse deal than you had? Nice job.</p>
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		<title>By: tomsd1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1181019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tomsd1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 18:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am still very dubious that such a policy was truly obtained, but even if not - I think the sabre rattling did help move the negotiatons along.

And if the NFLPA did spend the $50 million - it was chicken feed compared to how much the players would have caved in half way through no season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still very dubious that such a policy was truly obtained, but even if not &#8211; I think the sabre rattling did help move the negotiatons along.</p>
<p>And if the NFLPA did spend the $50 million &#8211; it was chicken feed compared to how much the players would have caved in half way through no season.</p>
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		<title>By: blchaney69</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1181013</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blchaney69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 17:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotcha, LOL... But lets not get Carried away, the &quot;PLAYERS&quot; were not smarter than the Owners..The NFLPA&#039;s Lawyers were smarter than the Owners Lawyers!!  I think the players confirm on a daily basis that they are not that sharp!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha, LOL&#8230; But lets not get Carried away, the &#8220;PLAYERS&#8221; were not smarter than the Owners..The NFLPA&#8217;s Lawyers were smarter than the Owners Lawyers!!  I think the players confirm on a daily basis that they are not that sharp!!</p>
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		<title>By: zinn22</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zinn22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 16:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[blchaney69 says: Aug 7, 2011 12:42 PM

How is this any different than what the Owners did with the Television contract to make sure they got paid in the event of the Lockout? I’m asking because I dont know..But it seems to be basically the same thing..Both sides covering their own butts!! But the Owners caught a ton of grief for it!!

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It is slightly different than TV case.  In the TV case the owners per their agreement with the players had  to maximize their revenue on the TV deal as the players were entitled to a % of the revenue.  The owners took less money from the networks in exchange for being paid with no revenue.  The players were sued for breach of contract and won.  The court had not issued a damage amount before the two sides settled but the players would have been entitled to a very large sum.

The two are slightly different in that the players paid for their lockout insurance with their own money while the owners bought the TV revenue with both sides money and if the lockout continued they were going to have to share some of that money with the players.  

But your right the original intention of the TV deal made by the owners was a form of lockout insurance.  It just backfired on them as the players were a bit smarter than the owners thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blchaney69 says: Aug 7, 2011 12:42 PM</p>
<p>How is this any different than what the Owners did with the Television contract to make sure they got paid in the event of the Lockout? I’m asking because I dont know..But it seems to be basically the same thing..Both sides covering their own butts!! But the Owners caught a ton of grief for it!!</p>
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<p>It is slightly different than TV case.  In the TV case the owners per their agreement with the players had  to maximize their revenue on the TV deal as the players were entitled to a % of the revenue.  The owners took less money from the networks in exchange for being paid with no revenue.  The players were sued for breach of contract and won.  The court had not issued a damage amount before the two sides settled but the players would have been entitled to a very large sum.</p>
<p>The two are slightly different in that the players paid for their lockout insurance with their own money while the owners bought the TV revenue with both sides money and if the lockout continued they were going to have to share some of that money with the players.  </p>
<p>But your right the original intention of the TV deal made by the owners was a form of lockout insurance.  It just backfired on them as the players were a bit smarter than the owners thought.</p>
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		<title>By: blchaney69</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180925</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blchaney69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is this any different than what the Owners did with the Television contract to make sure they got paid in the event of the Lockout?  I&#039;m asking because I dont know..But it seems to be basically the same thing..Both sides covering their own butts!!  But the Owners caught a ton of grief for it!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this any different than what the Owners did with the Television contract to make sure they got paid in the event of the Lockout?  I&#8217;m asking because I dont know..But it seems to be basically the same thing..Both sides covering their own butts!!  But the Owners caught a ton of grief for it!!</p>
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		<title>By: jaxjoe</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaxjoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 16:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off, with all the tough talk from the NFLPA, no company would even consider the $50M risk of shelling out $380M.  Maybe it was for two years and the risk would have been $760M?  So, it&#039;s highly plausible that the NFLPA made some assurances to Swiss RE that they would negotiate before the season started, or somewhere near the $50M payoff point which equates very coincidentally to two games lost (16 games ÷ $200,000 per player per year = $12,500 per game per player.  Now, $12.5K x 1,900 players = $23.75M per game.  $50M ÷ $23.75M ~ 2 games). 

So, if the legal battle was still ongoing and the NFL caught wind of this, the contract subpoenaed, and language in the contract stated a &#039;missed-games&#039; or &#039;pay-off&#039; clause (typically found in the &#039;termination&#039; or &#039;exceptions and deviations&#039; area of a contract), the NFLPA tent would have collapsed immediately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, with all the tough talk from the NFLPA, no company would even consider the $50M risk of shelling out $380M.  Maybe it was for two years and the risk would have been $760M?  So, it&#8217;s highly plausible that the NFLPA made some assurances to Swiss RE that they would negotiate before the season started, or somewhere near the $50M payoff point which equates very coincidentally to two games lost (16 games ÷ $200,000 per player per year = $12,500 per game per player.  Now, $12.5K x 1,900 players = $23.75M per game.  $50M ÷ $23.75M ~ 2 games). </p>
<p>So, if the legal battle was still ongoing and the NFL caught wind of this, the contract subpoenaed, and language in the contract stated a &#8216;missed-games&#8217; or &#8216;pay-off&#8217; clause (typically found in the &#8216;termination&#8217; or &#8216;exceptions and deviations&#8217; area of a contract), the NFLPA tent would have collapsed immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: gitlin1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180886</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gitlin1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 16:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Camden yard. When you purchase car insurance for your 30k car it doesn&#039;t cost 30k. It costs more like 1k a year. Hence the whole concept of insurance!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camden yard. When you purchase car insurance for your 30k car it doesn&#8217;t cost 30k. It costs more like 1k a year. Hence the whole concept of insurance!!</p>
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		<title>By: a1gd1ramsfan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180836</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a1gd1ramsfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think they should make 200k as regular season pay for all pro sports]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they should make 200k as regular season pay for all pro sports</p>
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		<title>By: thefiesty1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thefiesty1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They could have saved lots of money if DeMo hadn&#039;t walked out back in March.  Dumb ass!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could have saved lots of money if DeMo hadn&#8217;t walked out back in March.  Dumb ass!</p>
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		<title>By: voiceofrealism</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180802</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[voiceofrealism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[camdenyard says: Aug 7, 2011 10:01 AM

I don’t understand. A $50 million policy that would have paid 1,900 players $200K each. That’s a $38 million payout.
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You&#039;re right, you don&#039;t understand.
5 players would be 1mil
50 players would be 10 mil
500 players would be 100 mil
1900 players would be 380 mil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>camdenyard says: Aug 7, 2011 10:01 AM</p>
<p>I don’t understand. A $50 million policy that would have paid 1,900 players $200K each. That’s a $38 million payout.<br />
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You&#8217;re right, you don&#8217;t understand.<br />
5 players would be 1mil<br />
50 players would be 10 mil<br />
500 players would be 100 mil<br />
1900 players would be 380 mil</p>
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		<title>By: qdog112</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180763</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[qdog112]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very smart move for the NFLPA. Money well spent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very smart move for the NFLPA. Money well spent.</p>
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		<title>By: skoobyfl</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180734</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skoobyfl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The money was well spent, it made the owners realize that they did not have the financial leverage needed to force the players / employees hand. 

$50 Million for ace in a $100 Billion card game, is worth every dime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money was well spent, it made the owners realize that they did not have the financial leverage needed to force the players / employees hand. </p>
<p>$50 Million for ace in a $100 Billion card game, is worth every dime.</p>
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		<title>By: zinn22</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zinn22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NLPA made money on the lockout insurance.  Before it was unveiled the players offered, in March, the same deal to the owners that was eventually accepted in July.  

In march the players starter offer was 50% of total revenue.  The owners laughed at the offer, calling it ridiculous, and walked out of the mediation.  In June after the players revealed they had lockout insurance the owners started negotiating in good faith and eventually accepted the offer they had laughed at in March.

On its face it may appear the players got nothing for the $50 million.  But that $50 million paid for itself plus it helped make an agreement that otherwise may not have been made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NLPA made money on the lockout insurance.  Before it was unveiled the players offered, in March, the same deal to the owners that was eventually accepted in July.  </p>
<p>In march the players starter offer was 50% of total revenue.  The owners laughed at the offer, calling it ridiculous, and walked out of the mediation.  In June after the players revealed they had lockout insurance the owners started negotiating in good faith and eventually accepted the offer they had laughed at in March.</p>
<p>On its face it may appear the players got nothing for the $50 million.  But that $50 million paid for itself plus it helped make an agreement that otherwise may not have been made.</p>
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		<title>By: camdenyard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[camdenyard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand.  A $50 million policy that would have paid 1,900 players $200K each.  That&#039;s a $38 million payout.

I&#039;m sure there is more to it than this, because insuring $38 Million with $50 million makes no sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand.  A $50 million policy that would have paid 1,900 players $200K each.  That&#8217;s a $38 million payout.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there is more to it than this, because insuring $38 Million with $50 million makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: jw731</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jw731]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 13:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[200 g&#039;s per player is not nearly enough to make it rain for a year.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>200 g&#8217;s per player is not nearly enough to make it rain for a year&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: nceaglesfan</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180663</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nceaglesfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 13:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know about anyone else, but if I can bypass the opportunity of seeing the letters NFLPA (or NFLPA*) for the next 10 years, if happy for that.

Let&#039;s move on to Football.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know about anyone else, but if I can bypass the opportunity of seeing the letters NFLPA (or NFLPA*) for the next 10 years, if happy for that.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s move on to Football&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: lawyermalloy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lawyermalloy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an easy 50 mill for the company; i never believed for a min. the entire season would be lost!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an easy 50 mill for the company; i never believed for a min. the entire season would be lost!</p>
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		<title>By: whatsafairway</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whatsafairway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe the government should take the hint and buy 14 trillion of balanced budget insurance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the government should take the hint and buy 14 trillion of balanced budget insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboysfan18</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cowboysfan18]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Other than rookies, if players couldn&#039;t manage their money when they make 300,000 plus, the 200,000 wouldn&#039;t have lasted them too long. Players who can&#039;t manage their money should find out what its like to suffer a little. If you aren&#039;t Manning, Brady etc. then you should be smart enough to know you will not make enough in your football career to sustain a high level lifestyle without some other form of income or investing what you have. The idiots that make a million a year and go buy million dollar houses plus a Ferrari and/or a Maybach for each day of the week will probably run out of funds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other than rookies, if players couldn&#8217;t manage their money when they make 300,000 plus, the 200,000 wouldn&#8217;t have lasted them too long. Players who can&#8217;t manage their money should find out what its like to suffer a little. If you aren&#8217;t Manning, Brady etc. then you should be smart enough to know you will not make enough in your football career to sustain a high level lifestyle without some other form of income or investing what you have. The idiots that make a million a year and go buy million dollar houses plus a Ferrari and/or a Maybach for each day of the week will probably run out of funds.</p>
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		<title>By: traevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[traevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still seems pricy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still seems pricy.</p>
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		<title>By: flyerscup2010</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/07/nflpa-paid-50-million-for-lockout-insurance/#comment-1180622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flyerscup2010]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hate the game, not the player. insurance = legal ponzi scheme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hate the game, not the player. insurance = legal ponzi scheme.</p>
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