If Dalton get’s hurt, the year is toast.

Best Case Scenario: Dalton is the next Montana, Green is the next Jerry Rice.
Improbable? Yes. Impossible? No.

Under normal circumstances, I’d agree. But this was not normal. All of those coaches who had rookie QBs worked closely with veiled, second party QB coach proxies, who worked out their rookie QBs with their playbooks. This happened right after the court lifted the lockout. Brett Favre even worked out Cam Newton for Carolina. And team coaches were in close contact with those proxies. While they didn’t have direct contact. I bet they did a lot of film analysis and third hand instruction. I bet that’s why some of those rookies look so promising early in camp.
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Sorry, I don’t see Favre working with Newton or Chris Weinke working with Christian Ponder as being equivalent to going through OTAs and spending time with the coaches. Rookie quarterbacks almost always struggle, especially those taken in the second round, so I don’t think this year’s process is going to help them.

Under normal circumstances, I’d agree. But this was not normal. All of those coaches who had rookie QBs worked closely with veiled, second party QB coach proxies, who worked out their rookie QBs with their playbooks. This happened right after the court lifted the lockout. Brett Favre even worked out Cam Newton for Carolina. And team coaches were in close contact with those proxies. While they didn’t have direct contact. I bet they did a lot of film analysis and third hand instruction. I bet that’s why some of those rookies look so promising early in camp.

AJ Green – Let me introduce you to Jimmy Smith and Ed Reed.

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aj owned jimmy smith last year in the georgia vs colorado game. he had 7 catches, 119 yards, and 2 tds. Best catch in college football last year was made by AJ right in Jimmy Smith’s face for a score…. get used to it.

Sure you can retire at any time you want, but just because you dont get your way is why you would do it??? Who wants a guy like that on their team. The Bengals planned on Carson being there for that amount of time and built their tam around that, so when Carson hits them with the trade me or I retire act and puts them in a position to sign a free agent or draft a rookie why would you give him what he wants.

Found this bit interesting as a Bengals fan “and the tight end that we have” – singular. Chase Coffman definitely should be renting, not buying, it sounds like.

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I think this kid and his entusiasm is exactly wht the Bengals need. If he can just manage the game and use Benson as a workorse again. They could emerge as a shocker team this year. They have a legit potential Superstar in A.G. Green. A potential possession star in Shipley. A legit star already in Tight End Gresham. A superb O Line. And a real stud in Benson (who is the key). They have the potential to be a nightmare spoiler for those perrenial playoff teams if Dalton plays just half as good as Bradford, Stafford or the Josh ??? kid in Tampa.

Dalton is in the best situation of all the drafted QB rookies. Because he will be forced to be a game manager with a great arsenal of weapons to manage. That will make him and his team better. If he stays healthy, his light switch will go on by game 6-8. And look out if they are 500 or better. If he and their defense are up to the task, the Bengals will be a surprise playoff contender IMO.

So if you sign a contract saying you will work for a company for x amount of years and sometime in the middle you decide you dont like it their anymore, you have the right to tell them you want out or your taking your ball and going home????Come on man… What kinda of door would that open to a team if you start letting people do that? Should have thought long and hard before HE negotiated the long term deal.. And yes A.J will be know throught the league very very soon…Gurauntee it
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What are you talking about? Are you telling me that players shouldn’t be allowed to retire before their contracts run out?

Because that’s all Palmer did. I’m pretty sure if I signed a contract for X amount of years, I could retire pretty much anytime I want, right?

Sorry you misunderstood my point so horribly.

bigbeav82 says: Aug 8, 2011 9:56 AM

“I do agree with Mike on the not trading Carson…You sign a contract you should honor it.”

Do you agree with Mike when he cuts a player that still has time left on his contract?

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ownerships’ right to void the contract and release the player is part of the contract which was negotiated and signed by the player… it may be a double standard, but it’s part of the contract that the players agree to.

So if you sign a contract saying you will work for a company for x amount of years and sometime in the middle you decide you dont like it their anymore, you have the right to tell them you want out or your taking your ball and going home????Come on man… What kinda of door would that open to a team if you start letting people do that? Should have thought long and hard before HE negotiated the long term deal.. And yes A.J will be know throught the league very very soon…Gurauntee it

Dalton seems like a nice kid, and a less than terrible quarterback, but this doesn’t seem like maaaaybe a little premature to say before he’s even taken 1 pre-season game snap?

“I do agree with Mike on the not trading Carson…You sign a contract you should honor it.”

Do you agree with Mike when he cuts a player that still has time left on his contract?

I do agree with Mike on the not trading Carson…You sign a contract you should honor it.
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You mean like the owners do when they routinely dump guys with multiple years left on their contracts?

Or when they strong arm guys to take less money or get cut?

Or when the Dolphins bench Ronnie Brown in the 4th quarter of the last game of the season last year so he won’t get the 30 yards he needs to earn a bonus?

Is that what you mean by “honoring” contracts?

I’m sure you’ll all come back at me with “the contracts give the owners the right to do those things”.

Fair enough. The contract also gives Carson Palmer the right to walk away and forfeit his money.

So Carson Palmer is in fact “honoring” the terms of his contract.

I think the offense and defense are strong enough, and the schedule weak enough, to see this kid through the season without suffering permanent damage.