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Kyle Shanahan says he wanted Texans to take John Beck with 10th pick in 2007

As Redskins coach Mike Shanahan tries to keep his cards close to the vest while pondering his none-of-the-above quarterback situation, an interesting anecdote has emerged from Peter King of SI.com regarding the extent to which Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan likes John Beck.

On Monday’s PFT Live (and in his latest Monday Morning Quarterback column), King shared an intereesting anecdote regarding Kyle Shanahan and the Houston Texans from the 2007 draft.  “That was the JaMarcus Russell year, with Brady Quinn, Trent Edwards, Kevin Kolb and Beck,” Kyle Shanahan told King during his ongoing, 24-team camp tour.  “So they asked me who I’d pick if I had the 10th pick in the draft.  I told them Beck.  They said he’s not worth the 10th pick in the draft.  I was standing on the table for him.  I’ve never seen a guy play that well in college.”

Beck ended up being the 40th overall pick, taken in round two by the Dolphins.  (He was cut after only two seasons.)

Coincidentally, Texans G.M. Rick Smith also joined PFT Live on Monday, and so we asked him about the notion that Kyle Shanahan wanted the Texans to take Beck with the 10th pick in the 2007 draft.  We’ll defer to Smith’s comments on the question of whether Kyle Shanahan was indeed “standing on the table” for Beck with the 10th overall pick.

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86 Responses to “Kyle Shanahan says he wanted Texans to take John Beck with 10th pick in 2007”
  1. shaunymac424 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:53 PM

    Wow. There were a lot of QB flops in that draft, but taking Beck at 10 might have been the single most idiotic thing any team could have done.

  2. themitchfootball.com says: Aug 8, 2011 2:53 PM

    “I’ve never seen a guy play that well in college.” IN COLLEGE being the key words. Ever heard of Jason White? Akili Smith? Andre Ware? A good college player isn’t guaranteed to be a good pro.

  3. doctorfootball says: Aug 8, 2011 2:53 PM

    What a great talent evaluator. Thank God Kyle Shanahan guy doesn’t work for my team.

  4. adogdc says: Aug 8, 2011 2:53 PM

    I can’t view from work. What did Smith say?

    Hail!

  5. ryanmallettsbluntwrap says: Aug 8, 2011 2:54 PM

    Shanahan family stays smokin fire , just puffin L’s and burning down the Redskins franchise one day at a time.

  6. mac3333 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:55 PM

    Thus proving to the world that Kyle Shanahan has zero credentials other than being someone’s son.

    Nepotism. The surefire way to advance in the NFL.

  7. melonwearseaglespanties says: Aug 8, 2011 2:55 PM

    I remember when shannahan when to the skins. A lot of eagle fans were crying about how the eagles were now last in the division. How shannahan was such a great coach and all that. Just curious how they feel now.

    How many playoff wins does Shanhan have without Elway?

  8. blitz87 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:56 PM

    It’s too bad Kids Say the Darndest Things went off the air because Kyle Shanahan would have been a perfect guest on that show.

  9. hobartbaker says: Aug 8, 2011 2:56 PM

    Beck was as old as Kyle Shanahan when he played college football. That may have had something to do with how “good” he looked.

  10. tylerdurden0 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:56 PM

    Slow NFL news day, eh?

  11. terrellochouno says: Aug 8, 2011 2:56 PM

    All I gotta say is, if we go through all this media hype just to see Bobblehands Grossman out there on opening day, I’m gonna return my new Tim Hightower jersey.

  12. Tyler Conway says: Aug 8, 2011 2:57 PM

    As a Redskins fan, that totally makes me comfortable with the future of this franchise. Little Shanahan sounds like a fantastic judge of talent. Just superb. Makes Belichick look like Matt Millen. Future Hall-of-Famer right there.

  13. metaldeth says: Aug 8, 2011 2:58 PM

    And this guy has a job in the NFL?

  14. boneyardbuc says: Aug 8, 2011 2:58 PM

    Kyle,

    You know you have a spare ankle for that “JB” tattoo you always wanted…

  15. zilla1126 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:58 PM

    I think McNabb was standing on a table looking for a way out of Washington.

  16. 6ringnationsparksjealousy says: Aug 8, 2011 2:59 PM

    The Redskins are a mess. That franchise is truly as bad as it gets. Laughing stock of the NFL? Yes, laughing stock of the NFL. Pathetic. I wouldn’t any of those players or coaches on this team. That would never happen. We don’t bring losers over here.

  17. tombradyswig says: Aug 8, 2011 3:00 PM

    Good then, at least we can say ALL the Shanahans are CRAZY!!

    I wonder how wonkers the mother/wife is?!?!

  18. blastfurnaceknows says: Aug 8, 2011 3:00 PM

    Kyle Shanahan is a nimrod. If you need any more proof, here’s this – his imbecility (and maybe only his) made Rick Smith look smart for once. On a good note, Andrew Luck may be on his way to Washington next year (just hopefully they’ll have a better coach waiting for him there than baby boy Shanahan).

  19. ravensfan4life52 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:00 PM

    The Shanahans are the biggest clowns in the NFL.

  20. powderedme says: Aug 8, 2011 3:01 PM

    anyone else smell something?

  21. eaglesfan290 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:04 PM

    Mike Shanahan should have never hired his son!

    Point blank the guy just doesn’t know what he is doing!

  22. orakpownd says: Aug 8, 2011 3:04 PM

    @melonwearseaglepanties

    Hes been there one season. How many rings do you have ……ever?

  23. skinsdiehard says: Aug 8, 2011 3:07 PM

    Those of you saying Beck sucks, what is it based on? Have you seen him play? He was a 2nd round pick. It’s not like he was undrafted (Romo). I just hope he plays well to shut you all up.

    Kiss the rings…HAIL!

  24. jessieboom says: Aug 8, 2011 3:09 PM

    He said that out loud?

  25. trbowman says: Aug 8, 2011 3:09 PM

    L
    O
    L

  26. qdog112 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:10 PM

    Any sane person who ever believed in Kyle Shanahan, should not walk, but RUN AWAY from this guy ASAP.

  27. gulaid26 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:10 PM

    @skinsdiehard

    Do you not remember the epic Dolphis 1-15 campaign?

  28. southridge23 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:11 PM

    @melonwear and every other brainless who has ever asked what mike shannahan has won without elway…

    You my friends are sheep swayed by espn and other idiots!

    I’m not a fan of shannahan but if we used the same formula for determining effectiveness of head coaches, well then bellichik hasn’t won one without Brady…dungy without manning…Cowher without roethlesberger…

    Do you have no idea how idiotic this sounds??? Man how dumb can you be???

  29. melonwearseaglespanties says: Aug 8, 2011 3:12 PM

    orakpownd says:
    Aug 8, 2011 3:04 PM
    @melonwearseaglepanties

    Hes been there one season. How many rings do you have ……ever?

    ==================================

    i will answer ur question as soon as u answer mine?

    how many playoff wins for shanny without elway?

  30. realfootballfan says: Aug 8, 2011 3:12 PM

    We’ve seen all kinds of ways that Hall of Fame HC careers come to a sad end, but seeing Shanahan fall due to trying to prop up his spoiled son will be the newest.

  31. melonwearseaglespanties says: Aug 8, 2011 3:12 PM

    orakpownd says:
    Aug 8, 2011 3:04 PM
    @melonwearseaglepanties

    Hes been there one season. How many rings do you have ……ever?

    =================================

    and that was one miserable season

  32. 6ringofsteel says: Aug 8, 2011 3:13 PM

    He wishes he was a steeler so he wouldn’t have to be on the nfl’s most pathetic franchise and he would feel greatness and see real rings. 6.

  33. kiskins says: Aug 8, 2011 3:15 PM

    A. This is old news. Kyle said this much of Beck when they picked him up mid-season last year.

    B. So what that he rated Beck high in the draft. Aren’t most QB’s in the draft a gamble? How many actually pan out? How’s Brady Quinn and Trent Edwards doing? Kolb? Verdict is still out on him. I’ll reserve judgement on Beck…the kid has 4 career starts.

  34. skinsdiehard says: Aug 8, 2011 3:19 PM

    eaglesfan290 says:
    Aug 8, 2011 3:04 PM
    Mike Shanahan should have never hired his son!

    Point blank the guy just doesn’t know what he is doing!
    ——————————————-
    Again, ignorance abounds! The Skins key offensive statistics show that Kyle Shanahan and Mike Shanahan can coach, even with a subpar roster. The results were better than Zorn had.

    Total Passing Yards – 8th in 2010; 16th in 2009
    Total Rushing Per Carry – 4.2 (16th) in 2010; 3.9 (29th) in 2009

    They have improved the RB’s this year, WR’s with Hankerson, Gaffney, Paul and Stallworth and O-Line with G Chester. They WILL BE better in 2011.

    Kiss the rings….HAIL!

  35. neagle64 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:23 PM

    skinsdiehard says:
    Aug 8, 2011 3:07 PM
    Those of you saying Beck sucks, what is it based on? Have you seen him play?

    The reason we haven’t seen him play is because he was buried under QB stalwarts Cleo Lemon, Josh McCowan and Troy Smith – not to mention Rex Grossman…

  36. citizenstrange says: Aug 8, 2011 3:23 PM

    Tattoo or it didn’t happen.

  37. dolphan13 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:29 PM

    He never saw a guy play that well in college? Ive never seen a guy play so poorly in the pros. He plays small, timid, nervous and weak. As soon as the ball is snapped he’s in a full fledged panic attack.

  38. rc33 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:30 PM

    They took Amobe Okoye instead with that 10th pick.
    In hindsight, all Shanahan was saying was that he preferred a different complete and thorough flop.

    Congratulations to all.

  39. orthodoxdj says: Aug 8, 2011 3:32 PM

    Daniel Snyder=Al Davis-football knowledge

  40. treymen says: Aug 8, 2011 3:33 PM

    Answer me this… How many Super Bowls has Bill Belichick won without Tom Brady? Where was Brady drafted?

    For anyone who doesn’t like Beck… How’s his foot work? How’s his release? What kind of pocket presence does he have??? Come on.. give me something besides him taking over for an 0-9 team as a rookie.

  41. drop703 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:35 PM

    I didn’t follow Beck in college but thank god that Kyle Shanahan doesn’t scout players for real. Nobody has really given Beck a true opportunity to start. This will be his only chance. We’ll see what happens.

    In the NFC East, with the exception of Mike Vick last year, the Cowboys and the Giants have QB’s that turn the football over more than anyone in the league. If Beck can be a good game manager and not turn it over, the Redskins will continue to improve.

    It’s been done before:

    Dilfer
    Brad Johnson
    Cassel
    Flacco
    Even Big Ben started off as a game manager and he developed.

    We know what to expect from Rex…but no one has real film on Beck…except for when he played on one of the worst teams in NFL history.

    If he stinks it up then it’s what we expected, but I guarantee if he plays well you guys will still figure out another way to bash the Skins.

  42. 0sakpo says: Aug 8, 2011 3:36 PM

    we tried to stay low, under the radar or non drama as much as possible, and wat we see, too many haters out there, they can’t just leave us 1 week without headline, from those nonsense reporters to those non related fans not even in our division, why r u guys hating us so much? is it because our fan base loyalty, our team past success, our owner who also a fan wanted to spend money for the team or our coaching staffs that u guys wanted to coach for ur team but refused ? u guys r a bunch of losers from fail teams with no life, care about ur own problem suckers, suck it up if we r getting better

  43. britishraven says: Aug 8, 2011 3:40 PM

    This is the most idiotic thing i’ve ever heard anyone say

  44. suckleague says: Aug 8, 2011 3:43 PM

    The genius that took John Beck in the 2nd round, took Ted Ginn in the 1st, so there’s that…

  45. kscogg says: Aug 8, 2011 3:44 PM

    i just wanna focus on the part where he says he has never seen a guy play that well in college……..wow, the redskins are so very lucky to have him. scoreboard!

  46. blastfurnaceknows says: Aug 8, 2011 3:46 PM

    Others Kyle Shanahan reportedly lobbied for with the 10th pick in the 2007 draft include Paul Crewe, Bobby Boucher Jr. & Rod Tidwell. He said, as he was reviewing the videotapes, “I’ve never seen anyone play as well as these guys.”

  47. mpayne12 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:46 PM

    Kyle Shannahan must have read “How to build a football team” an epic novel by Vinny Cerrato.

  48. scutzi128 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:48 PM

    I’m tired of hearing about the Shanahans…. Most overrated football family in football.

  49. mswravens says: Aug 8, 2011 3:49 PM

    @skinsdiehard – funny you accuse others of ignorance while relying on Beck’s 2nd round status as proof that he’s a quality QB. Why don’t you go back and look at EVERY QB picked in the 2nd round over the last 15 years. You know what you’ll find? No Super Bowls, no Pro Bowls, and like a 1-6 record in playoff games (I don’t recall the actual numbers, but they were atrocious).

    But your “kiss the rings” comment simply proves that you are a typical Skins fan…and probably a typical Washingtonian who thinks the world revolves around DC while the rest of us actual laugh at how that incompetent town & its denizens are destroying the country…you think your team is a “storied franchise” and one of the foundational franchises in the NFL…but you are NOT. Outside of the Joe Gibbs era (which was what, 25-30 years ago?) you have won NOTHING in the last 70 years.

    You won’t be better with our Raven cast-offs. Stallworth caught 2 balls last year…which means 2 balls in the last 2 years. Chris Chester is simply soft. He sucks. He had ample opportunity to crack the starting OL in Bmore & just doesn’t offer anything. Keep dreaming & enjoy another losing season with little reason to believe anything will ever change for that woebegotten team!!!

  50. hendawg21 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:50 PM

    Everyone seems to know it all and have the answers… well how many so called experts thought highly of these QB’s before they got a real chance???

    Steve Young-Tampa Bay
    Kurt Warner-St Louis
    Warren Moon-wasn’t even drafted
    Tom Brady-6th round pick passed on by 32 teams for 5 plus rounds…

    Just remember not all that’s hyped is good there is a reason for the word (sleeper)

  51. firerosenthalthebastard says: Aug 8, 2011 3:52 PM

    Helluva endorsement!

  52. thefiesty1 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:53 PM

    The Texans have proven year in and year out that they don’t have a clue.

  53. green41563 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:55 PM

    It’s always sad when a coach becomes so angry at the media response to a bad personnel move by doubling down on his stupidity and saying/doing something even dumber than what got him in trouble in the first place.

  54. maddog111 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:58 PM

    I would think the Redskins could fire him with cause simply for admitting that.

  55. gdeli says: Aug 8, 2011 4:02 PM

    I wanna see washington get smoked this year. what a joke they are. Change the damn rascist name too. fools.

  56. trigzter says: Aug 8, 2011 4:06 PM

    Please stop pointing to Tom Brady being picked in the 6th round, and somehow relating that to Beck. Tom Brady actually played well when he started his first game, Beck is yet to have a good game. Have fun in the basement again this year.

  57. droog12 says: Aug 8, 2011 4:12 PM

    “That was the JaMarcus Russell year, with Brady Quinn, Trent Edwards, Kevin Kolb and Beck”

    If the question is phrased in terms of which quarterback to pick, there really isn’t a good answer. Russell: washout.
    Quinn: absolutely terrible.
    Edwards: mediocre concussion-case.
    Kolb: Looks like he could be decent.

    Really guys, which of these “studs” would you take over Beck? As much as I hate the Skins (and anything Shanahan related), it wasn’t as stupid as it seems in the context of the QBs in that draft.

  58. deenice810 says: Aug 8, 2011 4:13 PM

    Does the NFL drug test coaches because little Shanahan must be smoking something. Once again the Redskins will reside in the basement of the NFC east.

  59. fillyfan9988 says: Aug 8, 2011 4:15 PM

    Kyle attended a seminar by Matt Millen.”How to become n NFL General Manager”,

  60. capslockkey says: Aug 8, 2011 4:15 PM

    John Beck. PFTs new Kevin Kolb.

    Can we go back to talking about GOOD players again?

  61. stackraider95 says: Aug 8, 2011 4:27 PM

    john beck would be an up grade from the #1 pick that year

  62. johnnycamparm says: Aug 8, 2011 4:31 PM

    I never knew anything about Beck, other than he was a good College QB who hasn’t had success or legitimate chances in the NFL. I just finally looked him up on YouTube, and I gotta say the kid looks like a leader and a baller. Now that’s just going off his “career highlight” video, but watching this has certainly got me curious about, if not rooting for the guy.

  63. ravensfan4life52 says: Aug 8, 2011 4:31 PM

    @mwsravens

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha tell ‘em! that post made my day!

  64. eaglesfan290 says: Aug 8, 2011 4:31 PM

    skinsdiehard says:Aug 8, 2011 3:19 PM

    eaglesfan290 says:
    Aug 8, 2011 3:04 PM
    Mike Shanahan should have never hired his son!

    Point blank the guy just doesn’t know what he is doing!
    ——————————————-
    Again, ignorance abounds! The Skins key offensive statistics show that Kyle Shanahan and Mike Shanahan can coach, even with a subpar roster. The results were better than Zorn had.

    Total Passing Yards – 8th in 2010; 16th in 2009
    Total Rushing Per Carry – 4.2 (16th) in 2010; 3.9 (29th) in 2009

    They have improved the RB’s this year, WR’s with Hankerson, Gaffney, Paul and Stallworth and O-Line with G Chester. They WILL BE better in 2011.

    Kiss the rings….HAIL!

    Mike Shanahan has no rings in 13 years

    Kyle Shanahan has no rings period

    I notice you didn’t mention they improved the QB……… hmmmm pretty important part of any football team. If you think Stallworth is an addition you must be fantastic in your fantasy league!!!!!!!!! Ryan Torian just had surgery, Hightower fumbles everything, Gaffney is what 31 -32 years old, Moss is 32-33, Cooley had Knee surgery in Jan, Fletcher is like 36 years old, LaRon Landry has a bad Achillies, behind O.J. Atogwe you have nothing at FS and he is 30, Sav Rocca is 37 years old great pick-up!!!!!! We should know we got rid of him. Macho Harris is absolutely horrible we should know we got rid of him!!!!! Plus you go out and get Barry Cofield who is actually not bad in a 4-3 and you are going to use him at NT………….are you kidding me? The guy is 300lbs and not a 2 gap player on the inside.

    In short can’t wait to play you guys and good luck PS Tell Mike this is the NFL not the CFL.

  65. omegalh says: Aug 8, 2011 4:32 PM

    terrellochouno says:
    Aug 8, 2011 2:56 PM
    All I gotta say is, if we go through all this media hype just to see Bobblehands Grossman out there on opening day, I’m gonna return my new Tim Hightower jersey.

    Hightower jersey? do you store it next to your Stacey Mack and Kareem Adul-Jabbar (miami) jerseys?

  66. buffalowned says: Aug 8, 2011 4:36 PM

    wait…so this guy is actually admitting that he wanted to take the soon to be 30 year old who has thrown one career touchdown at 10 overall? HAHAHA should have just kept that one to himself. It’s ok skins fans only 8 more months until you are awarded andrew luck

  67. tinbender2000 says: Aug 8, 2011 4:50 PM

    orthodoxdj says:
    Aug 8, 2011 3:32 PM
    Daniel Snyder=Al Davis-football

    Damn dude, were you born yesterday? Snyder doesn’t know jack about football.. Al Davis has forgotten way more about football then everyone posting here put together knows, and STILL knows way more than most anyone on the planet.

  68. 1bigtex says: Aug 8, 2011 4:53 PM

    @ drop703

    Any particular reason why you’re bagging on Romo and Manning and not Michael Vick?

    Vick: 93 TDs 58 INTs 66 Fumbles
    Romo: 118 TDs 62 INTs 38 Fumbles
    Manning: 156 TDs 113 INTs 59 Fumbles

    Appears to me as if Vick is quite the turnover machine for his career.

    BTW, why don’t you list all of the Hall of Fame QBs from the modern era who have a better TD to INT ratio than Romo. I’ll start your list; Montana and Young. I’ll let you continue, but don’t expect to add anybody.

  69. wallacejay says: Aug 8, 2011 5:16 PM

    Hey Kyle…here’s your sign.

  70. jpk6044 says: Aug 8, 2011 5:17 PM

    If the Shanahans were this high on Beck, why did they bother trading a 2nd and 4th for Mcnabb a year ago when they could have taken Beck off the street? He is full of crap.

  71. kingjoe1 says: Aug 8, 2011 5:33 PM

    Kyle should keep his thoughts to himself…what good could come of this statement?

    Who would have thought that the only guy who has legit shot at being a true NFL starter teams can feel confident in would be Kevin Kolb.

  72. 2ndaryinsanity says: Aug 8, 2011 5:36 PM

    As a Texans fan, I can’t say I’m sorry we “lost” Baby Shany to the Redskins. The fact our wonderful G.M. chose not to listen to Kyle is a SMALL comfort! Rick Smith needs to go…David Carr (biggest bust of the draft class- along with Joey Harrington), Ahman Green (Packers let him walk for a reason), Okoye,Brian Cushing (taken despite PED rumors in college), & overall failure to properly address our crappy 2ndary (prior to this season) all are part of a pattern. Texans won’t ever be more than an average team if our G.M. can’t evaluate talent better. Yes, he drafted Andre Johnson and DeMeco Ryan. Yes, he brought in Matt Schaub. But even a broke clock is right twice a day.

  73. cleanslaton says: Aug 8, 2011 5:37 PM

    This is exactly why I’m celebrating Kyle Shanahan being gone from the Texans organization. Freaking nepotism……Shanahan and his Iso-leads up the middle on 3rd & long. What an awful coach.

  74. 1bigtex says: Aug 8, 2011 5:57 PM

    @ 2ndaryinsanity

    I tend to give David Carr just a bit of a pass. Don’t know that I’ve ever seen a QB get the snot kicked out of him as consistently as Carr did unless it was Patrick Ramsey playing under Spurrier’s “My offense is so advanced that we don’t need to block” scheme.

    I can’t imagine that Carr can close his eyes at night without having visions of the DL in his face.

  75. saturn1111 says: Aug 8, 2011 6:01 PM

    Wow…Kyle Shanahan inadvertently admitting how frigging stupid he is. What a shocker.

    And speaking of “the extent to which..Kyle…likes” a guy…isn’t he the one walking around with Chris Simms’s initials tattooed on his ankle?

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that….

  76. scoob766 says: Aug 8, 2011 6:15 PM

    @1bigtex – Not an Eagles fan, but Vick has gone farther then Romo by miles in the postseason. Romo is all hype and never comes through, although Vick did heinous actions, he still can lead a team further and more consistently.

  77. pthompson1187 says: Aug 8, 2011 6:23 PM

    haha thats an embarrasing confession by shanahan. c’mon, seriously? 10th overall? i thought it was a reach picking him in the second round. He flopped in miami and he will flop in washington. he doesnt seem to be comfortable on the field. Maybe because of inexperience but ive seen third string qb’s play better than beck. if he proves me wrong, then so be it. until then i dont see him doing anything good.

  78. 1bigtex says: Aug 8, 2011 6:39 PM

    @scoob766

    The isssue raised by drop703 was regarding turnovers. The numbers illustrate the turnovers of the three QBs in question. The point is “Don’t accuse one QB of being a turnover machine and then exclude another one who has many more turnovers”. Clear enough?

  79. txnfan87 says: Aug 8, 2011 6:42 PM

    @ 2ndaryinsanity

    Charlie Casserly drafted both David Carr and Andre Johnson… Rick Smith became the GM after the 2006 draft.

  80. scoob766 says: Aug 8, 2011 8:20 PM

    @1bigtex- I got the point, but I still wouldn’t put Romo near Vick. I wouldn’t even mention them together, one can win a game, one can’t win anything.

    Is Romo even starting? Didn’t some WR want a QB competition in Dallas? I guess they’ll have to wait until next year…

  81. mulehead70 says: Aug 8, 2011 8:47 PM

    mswravens says:

    Why don’t you go back and look at EVERY QB picked in the 2nd round over the last 15 years. You know what you’ll find? No Super Bowls, no Pro Bowls, and like a 1-6 record in playoff games (I don’t recall the actual numbers, but they were atrocious).
    —————————————————-

    You DO realize that Drew Brees was a 2nd round pick, right? Not mention he has some Pro Bowls and a Super Bowl under his belt.

    I do, however, agree with the rest of your post.

  82. 1bigtex says: Aug 8, 2011 10:22 PM

    @scoob766

    “one can win a game, one can’t win anything”

    Okay, let’s examine that statement, shall we.
    Vick has started 79 games in the league. He is 15 games over .500. Romo has started 61 games in the league. Despite a bad year last year, he’s 17 games over .500. Vick has won exactly ONE more playoff game than Romo. Romo is almost 10 percentage points ahead of Vick in completions. He’s almost 30 yards ahead in yards per game. Vick’s best year ever in passing is 3018 yards. Romo has three seasons better than that with one of those almost 1500 yards more. Despite being more than a season behind Vick in games played, Romo is more than 2,000 yards ahead in passing with a better TD to INT ratio. The main reason Vick got a chance last year was because the Eagles’ OL got Kolb knocked out of the second game.

    You really appear to be hanging your hat on one playoff win. Personally, I don’t see a big difference between 2-3 and 1-3. Not when neither QB has a Super Bowl. And certainly not when EVERY other stat points in the opposite direction.

  83. psps23 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:47 PM

    Wow, it’s amazing to me that even after building a fanbase and winning a Super Bowl of their own, Ravens fans are still jealous of the Redskins and their popularity everywhere outside of the blip Baltimore provides on a map.

  84. dikshuttle says: Aug 9, 2011 8:05 AM

    This is news? I thought this was common knowledge already. Then again, I thought it was obvious why & how McNugget was benched but everyone floundered over that one for a year anyway…. I was right, btw.

  85. eaglesfan290 says: Aug 9, 2011 10:39 AM

    mswravens says:

    Why don’t you go back and look at EVERY QB picked in the 2nd round over the last 15 years. You know what you’ll find? No Super Bowls, no Pro Bowls, and like a 1-6 record in playoff games (I don’t recall the actual numbers, but they were atrocious).

    Ok, to be blunt you are an idiot what round was Tom Brady taken in? Think about it !!!!!!

    Then shut up

  86. 1bigtex says: Aug 9, 2011 1:52 PM

    @ eaglesfan290

    Uh, dude, he said every QB picked “IN” the 2nd round, not “AFTER” the 2nd round. Now admittedly, he missed Drew Brees who was the first pick in the second round when he was drafted, but you might want to sharpen up those reading comprehension skills before you go calling somebody an idiot.

    Think about it!!!!!!

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