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Shaun Ellis had an easy decision

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Rex Ryan wasn’t thrilled with Shaun Ellis’ move to New England, but it’s not hard to see why Ellis left.

The Patriots will reportedly pay Ellis between $4-5 million in 2011, depending on contract incentives, according to Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News.

The money shows how that Ellis is slated to play a big role next to Albert Haynesworth and Vince Wilfork.  The Patriots announced the Ellis move on Monday, in addition to adding Andre Carter.

New England was interested in Matt Roth, but Shalise Manza Young of the Boston Globe reports Roth upped his asking price after they started talking deal, which angered the team.  Roth remains unsigned.

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  1. bozosforall says: Aug 8, 2011 1:10 PM

    “Roth upped his asking price after they started talking deal, which angered the team.”

    ____
    Someone call the “Wahhmbulance” for those cheapskates.

  2. tunescribe says: Aug 8, 2011 1:15 PM

    It wasn’t just the money that sold Ellis. After a decade in the swamps it was his first inside look at a professionally run organization that emphasizes winning over selling PSLs.

  3. flagstaffphotos says: Aug 8, 2011 1:23 PM

    In other news, the Patriots have decided to open a Hooters, a Pizza Hut buffet line, and a 24-hour Taco Bell in the locker room. They are still looking for a vendor to provide the in-locker-room fresh donut shop that is required under the terms of Haynesworth’s contract.

    The NFL has also announced that it will no longer use the silly Roman numbers to signify their Super Bowls. Instead of Super Bowl XLVI, this year’s Super Bowl will be known as Super Bowl Cinnabon in honor of the Patriot’s new defensive line.

  4. curtsosexy says: Aug 8, 2011 1:25 PM

    Let’s face it, Ellis is a mediocre defensive tackle on his best day. It’s great that everyone is judging him on that Pats game. NE just grossly… GROSSLY!! over paid for a player that should have retired because he’s the slowest guy on the field at this point in his career. He had a couple of above average games in his Jets career. Thats it. Besides the NE game last year, this guy has has been invisible the past 6 years. Frankly, I’m shocked that he lasted in the NFL this long. The Jets have had a terrible pass rush for the longest time and this guy was the #1 reason. As far as I’m concerned, he never came close to living up to his first round draft pick hype.
    The media is basing everything on one miracle performance. Good riddance Shaun. Maybe the Pats can get the lead out of your ass! Doubt it. Ridiculous contract!! LOL!

  5. nfldaddy says: Aug 8, 2011 1:27 PM

    Shaun Ellis had an easy decision………

    Did he want to eat again, or did he want to suffer a slow and agnozing death from starvation because of the grasp of Foot Sex Rex’s appetite.

  6. rethinklogic says: Aug 8, 2011 1:27 PM

    It wasn’t just the money that sold Ellis. After a decade in the swamps it was his first inside look at a professionally run organization that emphasizes winning over selling PSLs.

    How many playoff wins do the pats have the last three years? Do you mean to tell me the mighty Bill Belichick is 0-2 the last two years at home?

    Oh, and why weren’t they the standard of professionalism until Tom Brady became the starter by default.

    Just asking

  7. nyjalleffingday says: Aug 8, 2011 1:28 PM

    LOL! That’s a lot of money for a washed up D-Lineman.

  8. afc22 says: Aug 8, 2011 1:31 PM

    it’s never an easy decision to join the Pats. that’s why it took so long for the deal to finalize even though they offered 4-5x the money the Jets did

    welcome to the machine Shaun, check your soul at the door…you will be missed in NY though

  9. thenyolive says: Aug 8, 2011 1:31 PM

    That’s a lot of incentive. Wonder what the base salary is? Veteran minimum?

  10. zombiepatriot says: Aug 8, 2011 1:31 PM

    @bozosforall

    Way to show your ignorance. Last article I viewed they were spending 95.8% to the salary cap. Just because Lawyer Milloy once called them cheap because they wouldn’t meet his asking price (and I think things turned out okay) it doesn’t mean you bafoons have to keep parroting a tired old line.

    New England has good management.

    Now I wait for the other tired old lines spouted by the bafoons… *

  11. austrianpanther says: Aug 8, 2011 1:32 PM

    Dare we say…..”New England Jets”?!?!?!?

  12. nxsteven says: Aug 8, 2011 1:42 PM

    haha So Jason Babin signs with the Eagles for 5-6m/yr and Patriots “steal” Ellis away from the Jets for $4-5m year?

  13. austrianpanther says: Aug 8, 2011 1:42 PM

    Hey Bozo!

    The only “good” thing about New England is their clam chowder….Manhattan STYLE!!

  14. ampats says: Aug 8, 2011 1:48 PM

    The Pats just resigned Warren. It is becoming obvious that BB has rebuilt his DL based on subpackages and probably alot of nickel. He values experience in his schemes.

    rethinklogic,

    Maybe because the Patriots had new ownership in 1994. The Kraft’s ownership have made this into the gold standard of a franchise in the NFL.

    Maybe the jets will get a chance after Woody sells the team.

  15. dmc1542 says: Aug 8, 2011 1:50 PM

    What makes Roth toss around whatever clout he has earned in the past couple yrs to the Pats? I don’t blame them for saying no thanks to a guy who has played for 2 perrenial losers, to come into a negotiation with Bill Belichick and up his asking price after the fact.

    You’d think a guy who has lost his whole career would want to play for a winner

  16. CKL says: Aug 8, 2011 1:52 PM

    Pats re-signed Gerard Warren too.
    They’re up to about 19 DL now. They’re gonna run the 7-2-2 defense. :D

    @ zombie, just ignore the bozoman. He’s the Borges of PFT posters. Not happy unless he’s miserable and crapping on BB. Color me unimpressed by his imitation of a plagiarizer.

  17. toddlvin says: Aug 8, 2011 1:57 PM

    Alot is made of the great day the Ellis had against NE in the playoffs last year…however, the reason that Ellis got those sacks was the result of great coverage down field…Brady had plenty of time to throw but could find no one open..eventuall the pocket collapsed and he was sacked…not one of the sacks was the result of a great move / penetration by Ellis! He was grossly overpaid by NE!

  18. crunchyclam says: Aug 8, 2011 1:59 PM

    A reminder of Ellis’ production last year:

    –First 5 games: …..3.5 sacks
    –Final 11 games: …..1 sack

    –First 5 games: …..18 tackles
    –Final 11 games: ..17 tackles.

    …and the Pats are paying him slightly less than what Jason Babin got from the Eagles. Can someone say panic move?

  19. all4patriots says: Aug 8, 2011 2:05 PM

    Hey nyjalleffingday and curtsosexy,

    Show me ANY ANALYSIS AT ALL that shows me that anyone other that Ellis has been the most productive D lineman for the swamp/trash heap team over the past 3 years. You can’t.

    He’s missed 6 games in 10 years? You can’t even claim he is always hurt.

    Just sour grapes by pathetic fans of a sorry-ass team with a loudmouth coach who looks like Jabba the Hut.

  20. tunescribe says: Aug 8, 2011 2:07 PM

    @rethinklogic: I’ll answer your question with a question: How many Super Bowls have the New Jersey Green Beans even appeared in, let alone won in the last 42 years? ;)

  21. pone27 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:07 PM

    Jets fans really disgust me…

    You guys come in here and bash the D-Line man you all loved and somehow try to act like he was terrible for the Jets. The only reason why you Jets fans are hating is for two reasons: 1, he is on the Pats 2 he left the Jets

    Had he re-signed, you would have all said how we needed him, he fits Ryan’s system, blah blah blah.

    Good Luck Sanchez, you are going to get slaughtered against them Pats!!!

  22. mrzazz41387 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:08 PM

    HAHA, good job Pats. Rex must be in your heads if you think overpaying for a fossil will make you better.

    Are the Pats going for the always vaunted 9-2 defense.

    Ellis’ last sack for the Jets will be the one against the Pats cap.

  23. jolink653 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:09 PM

    the reason ellis never produced as much as he should have was because the jets lacked a dominant lineman who could command a double-team…we have two now who will have to be double-teamed at all times leaving a mismatch on the outsides for ellis and jermaine cunningham as well as a lot of openings for rushing linebackers…worse comes to worse and he doesn’t produce he gets cut and i think it’s hilarious how every jets fan wouldn’t shut up about shaun ellis all last year and now that he signs with the patriots he’s “terrible” and “washed-up”…for the record babin took less from the eagles because he wanted to be back with his former line coach not because that’s all he could get

  24. ryanmallettsbluntwrap says: Aug 8, 2011 2:12 PM

    Not to mention the Jets D line is trash . You better hope Wilkerson plays like a pro bowler his first season or the Jets are going no where , regardless they won’t make it very far anyways , team downgraded from last year while the pats stocked up . If one of those Jets Defensive lineman gets hurt who is going to fill in ? Thats all i really want to know ……

  25. green41563 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:16 PM

    I’m not going to minimize Shaun Ellis’s contributions over the last 11 years just because he’s on the patriots now. He was a very good player here for a long time.

    But that said, he wasn’t worth $4-$5M a year at this point in his career—or anywhere close to it. The Jets paid Jason Taylor 2.25M last season in an uncapped year, and he’s a future HOFer.

    At 34, Ellis’s real market value under a $120M cap was about $1.5M.

  26. nyjalleffingday says: Aug 8, 2011 2:16 PM

    @all4patriots

    LOL again! He’s the best of a terrible group. The Jets have virtually no pass rush. Look at the stats crunchyclam posted. 4 million is WAY too much for that kind of production, or lack thereof. He’s been a Jet for 10 years now, he was our best pass rusher, (and again, that’s not saying much) has a vast knowledge of our defensive schemes and was a popular leadership kind of guy, and the Jets STILL wouldn’t offer him more than a 1 year deal at vets minimum, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? We’re around 12mil under cap by the way, so we certianly had the money for him.

    Billy and Krafty got hosed, just admit it!

  27. mrzazz41387 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:17 PM

    Hey jolink653 in a 3-4 defense, the DE is supposed to take up blockers for the OLBers to get the pressure. It was his job to take up blockers. That’s why when you look at 3-4 D-linemen, you don’t see many sacks.

    Now that the Pats are running more of a 4-3, you have an aged Ellis who hasn’t succeeded in a 4-3 since he had John Abraham to get all the attention. The last time I checked, the Pats don’t have anyone even close to what John Abraham was.

  28. n2thaizzo says: Aug 8, 2011 2:19 PM

    I love how people on here just jump to conclussions. If you fully ready the sentence, it says Ellis will be paid 4-5 million if he reaches all of his incentives. If he’s as bad a some of you Jets fans claim he is, then he won’t reach those incentives and won’t get paid as much.

    The other thing he brings is knowledge of the Jets. With the rivalry that is going on between these two teams, both sides are trying to gain the upper hand. What better way than to steal a well respected locker room presence?

  29. crunchyclam says: Aug 8, 2011 2:20 PM

    I see very few Jets fans bashing Ellis in this thread. It’s more about how the Pats severely overpaid for a guy in decline. Look at how his stats shook up over the course of the season. Aside from the Pats game in the playoffs, Ellis’ play had a large drop off after week 5, barely producing much at all. I don’t see how that justifies paying him $5 million. If anything it makes it much easier to swallow that he’s not a Jet anymore. The Pats got fleeced, good for Ellis.

  30. green41563 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:21 PM

    If it’s true that some Jets fans are calling Ellis old and washed-up just because he’s on the Patriots now, then it’s also that many Patriots fans are NOT calling him old and washed-up just because he’s on the Patriots now.

  31. august1969 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:25 PM

    Who cares how much he gets paid for a one year deal when the team is under the cap? Its the long term deals with high guarenteed money that can kill you (see Adalius Thomas)

  32. ryanmallettsbluntwrap says: Aug 8, 2011 2:26 PM

    nyjalleffing day is so bitter it is hilarious , please speak to a patriots fan when the Jets get some hardware , until then shut your mouth because your rambling and your the fan of a team that can’t seem to get themselves a ring . Admit that your QB is mark sanchez and he will NEVER win a super bowl , lol that really must suck . Rex Ryan ” This is the year , were going to win it all ” Ive been hearing that for a while now …………. Lets see something to back it up

  33. austrianpanther says: Aug 8, 2011 2:26 PM

    Shaun Ellis had an easy decision

    Yes, easy decision $910,000.00 or $4,500,000.00

    Think he lost sleep over this?!?!?!?

  34. waccoforflacco says: Aug 8, 2011 2:27 PM

    You say New England JETS??? That’s a laugh. Its definitely the New York RAVENS.

  35. ryanmallettsbluntwrap says: Aug 8, 2011 2:29 PM

    And all you idiots saying 4-5 million is too much , can you not read ? Do you not see that it says 4-5 mil AFTER incentives ? Or do most of you not know what incentives are ? He is probably not guaranteed a dime over 1.5 mil but the patriots are giving him another few million reasons to work his tail off this year .

  36. elgramo84 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:30 PM

    Yeah this is the same as brad smith get out of dodge before the Rex gets hungry. That fat man often mistakes players for fast food

  37. CKL says: Aug 8, 2011 2:33 PM

    @nyjalleffingday
    We won’t know if the Pats got hosed until after this year. Thanks for your concern though, it’s touching. ;)
    Personally I think RR hosed BB worse on Adalius Thomas, but that’s just me.

  38. stampats says: Aug 8, 2011 2:33 PM

    That’s A LOT of money…..

    While Ellis was JAG on the Jets DL I could see him being an impact as a situational guy in New England…. Less of a strain if he gets some looks at a 4-3 DE spot over a 3-4 DE spot.

    That’s A LOT of money though… Never would have guessed that $$$$$$$.

    I was ticked off, that Ellis went to NE but, for that money hell, most of us would have done the same… Who turns down 4 Million Dollars.

    Shocking $$$$$.

  39. stampats says: Aug 8, 2011 2:34 PM

    “If it’s true that some Jets fans are calling Ellis old and washed-up just because he’s on the Patriots now, then it’s also that many Patriots fans are NOT calling him old and washed-up just because he’s on the Patriots now.”

    And the truth is… He has a role, he can be a fine situational guy like I just said, especially in a 4-3 look.

    but… HOLY COW 4-5 MILLION DOLLARS IS A FORTUNE for a situational Jag.

  40. mrzazz41387 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:35 PM

    If Ellis was starter quality, and worthy of money like that, they would have found a way to keep him. He is a decent backup though.

  41. stampats says: Aug 8, 2011 2:36 PM

    I love how people on here just jump to conclussions. If you fully ready the sentence, it says Ellis will be paid 4-5 million if he reaches all of his incentives. If he’s as bad a some of you Jets fans claim he is, then he won’t reach those incentives and won’t get paid as much.

    ——————————

    Did you read it? It says Between 4-5 Million.

    I read that to say at minumum he gets 4 Million AND THAT, MY FRIEND IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR AN OLDER JAG.

  42. justentertainingthestupid says: Aug 8, 2011 2:37 PM

    It’s all about the benjamins

  43. dmc1542 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:39 PM

    ‘He’s been a Jet for 10 years now, he was our best pass rusher, (and again, that’s not saying much) has a vast knowledge of our defensive schemes and was a popular leadership kind of guy, and the Jets STILL wouldn’t offer him more than a 1 year deal at vets minimum, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?”

    The term “what does that tell you” should never be spoken in any way to show the Jets being smart. This is the team that got Braylon Edwards to be their savior mid-season, among many, many other stupid moves…

    ……New Jersey Green Beans

  44. mrzazz41387 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:39 PM

    …and if you look at the tape, Ellis was very rarely double teamed if at all.

  45. ytsejamer1 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:48 PM

    rethinklogic says: Aug 8, 2011 1:27 PM

    How many playoff wins do the pats have the last three years? Do you mean to tell me the mighty Bill Belichick is 0-2 the last two years at home?

    – Uh yeah, he is. His defenses have sucked over the last few years. He might be figuring out Brady can’t win the whole thing alone. Better late than never I guess.

    Oh, and why weren’t they the standard of professionalism until Tom Brady became the starter by default.

    – Because the organization was in shambles when he got there. He had fat, overpaid, unmotivated players which had no business being on the field in 2000. He had to clean house and he couldn’t do that all within the space of a single offseason. Other than Parcell’s gems (Vinatieri, Law, Milloy, McGinest, Bledsoe, and Bruschi) and Kevin Faulk (the only pick from Carrol’s days), the team was full of turds. So he was getting things in order when Brady was drafted, then went with him when the opportunity presented itself.

    Hope that answers your questions.

  46. nyjalleffingday says: Aug 8, 2011 2:49 PM

    @ryanmallett

    I’d normally give you a response, perhaps laugh at you a bit, but that paragraph was such a bastardization of the English language that I’m only inclined to give you this: go back to high school.

    @dmc1542

    What an insightful, thoughtful, analysis. I wish I had all the football knowledge you do. I now see the error of my ways. Shaun Ellis is the best D-Lineman in history, you sure showed me.

    @CKL

    That’s true enough. The games are played for a reason. See ya in October…

  47. cliverush says: Aug 8, 2011 2:52 PM

    The source of the money amount came from a reporter of a NY paper, not the Patriots. When the Patriots release the figure then we will know the real value of the contract.

  48. dmc1542 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:14 PM

    NYJalleffingday- and CKL for that matter—-

    You wanna talk about hosed, then free agents can come up, but don’t act like you didn’t get the ultimate hose in Vernon Gholston over Jerod Mayo!!

    I thought for sure the Pats would get him, just like everyone else did, and instead they just got a stud MLB that no one expected.

    How did that Vernon guy end up?

  49. dmc1542 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:14 PM

    NYJalleffingday- and CKL for that matter—-

    You wanna talk about hosed, then free agents can come up, but don’t act like you didn’t get the ultimate hose in Vernon Gholston over Jerod Mayo!! Rex took the bait, hook line and sinker.

    I thought for sure the Pats would get him, just like everyone else did, and instead they just got a stud MLB that no one expected.

    How did that Vernon guy end up?

  50. pone27 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:19 PM

    Common knowledge, along with any football fan having knowledge of how the Patriots work the market know clearly that if the Jets were offering so little, no way would they pay so much for Ellis. Its definitely a heavily incentive laden contract.

    And I will say it again, if this was any other D-Line man besides Ellis, there would not so many Jets trolling on here.

    Go worry about Plax’s ankle and jail time and not so much about a former player you wish you had kept, regardless of age.

  51. weightshakes says: Aug 8, 2011 3:45 PM

    Ellis 2010:

    –first 5 games: ……..3.5 sacks
    –final 11 games: ……….1 sack

    –first 5 games: ………18 tackles
    –final 11 games: …….17 tackles.

    A guy who managed just 1 sack in the final 11 games is worth $4-5 million????

  52. weightshakes says: Aug 8, 2011 3:46 PM

    Pone, it is a $4 million contract, with another $1 million in incentives.

    I think before you start lecturing others about “knowledge” it would be nice if you bothered informing yourself a bit.

  53. CKL says: Aug 8, 2011 4:12 PM

    dmc1542 says:
    Aug 8, 2011 3:14 PM
    NYJalleffingday- and CKL for that matter—-

    You wanna talk about hosed, then free agents can come up, but don’t act like you didn’t get the ultimate hose in Vernon Gholston over Jerod Mayo!! Rex took the bait, hook line and sinker.

    I thought for sure the Pats would get him, just like everyone else did, and instead they just got a stud MLB that no one expected.

    How did that Vernon guy end up?
    ________________________________
    Rex wasn’t the coach who drafted Gholston. That was the Mangenius. :)
    I’m a Pats fan so I am very happy they would up with Mayo. He’s a stud.

  54. jnbnet says: Aug 8, 2011 4:24 PM

    It must be a mistake. Everyone wants to play for Jaba the jet. Ellis would not have signed a contract with any other team. He must have displeased the mighty Rex and was told he would not be a jet.

  55. nyjalleffingday says: Aug 8, 2011 6:31 PM

    @dmc

    That’s all you got? I’ll take your Vernon Gholston, and i’ll raise you a Curtis Martin.

    And CKL is a Pats fan, albiet the rare one that can listen to Patriot criticism without getting launched into a frenzy, imagine that.

  56. 1historian says: Aug 8, 2011 8:58 PM

    Austrianpanther;

    I live in New England. I’ve worked all over the country in my working career but I was always headed back here. I have a nice house on a dirt road, good neighbors, in the winter the town snowplow turns around just below my neighbors driveway. Come winter when the snow falls it can get so quiet you can almost hear it. I have a very silly black lab whom I love and there was one time last winter when we had a lovely snowstorm and we were out taking a walk and he stopped to jump in a snowbank, get out, roll on his back like an idiot and then he looked me in the eye and said “It’s about damn time we had some decent weather around here!”

    I don’t have to lock the house – even when I leave – or take the keys out of the car when I come home for the night. If I wanna pee outside I do so.

    I have my books, my music, friends and family around, if the Pats win I’m happy if they don’t I get over it quickly, I enjoy watching football on the tube to an extent.

    Life is good here in New England.

  57. j0esixpack says: Aug 8, 2011 9:09 PM

    bozosforall says: Someone call the “Wahhmbulance” for those cheapskates.

    Gotta love the haters like bozosforall – simultaneously accusing the team of being cheap while overpaying for veteran talent.

  58. ellis4000000 says: Aug 9, 2011 12:33 PM

    4 million dollars for a guy going into his 12th season? Ive watched probably every game of this guys career, very good player for a long time and if he was able to wrangle 4 m to play for his biggest rival more power to him. I was very surprised to see N.E give this type of deal to a player this used up, it seems to go against the Pats way of doing things over the years. Ellis while generally usefull seemed to win over the H.C with his 2 sack game in the playoffs, yes those sacks took 5 minutes to get, due to great coverage, but he got them nonetheless. Its too bad he couldnt end with the Jets, but no one should forget it is a business, and the Jets with some injured DL coming back and some fresh young legs aquired in the draft werent going to match that type of deal. Time will tell if all these Older players BB is stockpiling will mesh and form a good d, because they were a disaster last year. I guess with the lockout, and the frenzy to fill out a roster, guys being picked up every five minutes, the Pats had a lot of $ left and alot of empty chairs to fill. As a Jet/met fan, Im used to being on the overpaying side, but if Ellis helps turn that d into a formidable unit and earns that 4million dollars more power to him. Honestly when i heard the number he got, my first thought was hed be cut by opening day, but apparently thats not the case. What I dont understand is the Jets offered under 1m, why would the Pats go 4x’s the Jet offer? not like teams were gonna line up for a player every team has their own version of already….

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