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Tebow doesn’t make up ground in Broncos scrimmage

Kyle Orton, Tim Tebow, Adam Weber AP

It’s no surprise seven-year veteran Kyle Orton is outplaying Tim Tebow in practice.

The hope for Tebow loyalists in Denver and beyond is that Tebow is a “gamer” that will play better in game conditions. With the preseason yet to start, Saturday’s Broncos scrimmage was our best chance yet for the quarterbacks to perform in game action.  Tebow didn’t help his case.

In nine plays, Tebow took three sacks and completed 1-of-3 passes.

Orton directed two series that resulted in field goals. He was 4-of-7, but two of his passes were dropped.  Brady Quinn had the best day, primarily playing with the No. 3 offense and against the No. 3 defense.

Tebow was stuck playing against the No. 1 defense.  The good news is that Elvis Dumervil looks healthy again, racking up two quick sacks and helping on another one.

“Elvis made things interesting,” Tebow told Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post. “Elvis makes things very difficult. He’s a great player.”

Barring a complete turnaround in the preseason, the Broncos quarterback race surprisingly doesn’t seem very close.

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  1. qdog112 says: Aug 8, 2011 9:58 AM

    But Timmy is the chosen one.

  2. 6ringnationsparksjealousy says: Aug 8, 2011 10:00 AM

    Surprised? I like the guy but he simply won’t succeed at QB. Actually I can’t say I like him. Who writes a biography when they’re 25? smh

  3. kehav1 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:01 AM

    i love tebow, but let the best man win, the broncos should probably go with their future though…

  4. marvsleezy says: Aug 8, 2011 10:02 AM

    Forget this chosen one junk – He didnt ask for any of that type of talk – Hes just living his life – I dont see why people want to get all over him when he fails. Let it go….

  5. medtxpack says: Aug 8, 2011 10:05 AM

    Tebow sucks and people need to realize he doesnt have the NFL skills…he should jsut be a backup….and the team priest. ha

  6. nagidac says: Aug 8, 2011 10:06 AM

    It’s probably a good thing for the Broncos that the Miami deal fell apart. From the sounds of all of the reports, Tebow is nowhere near being able to lead a team.

  7. mr4thand1 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:07 AM

    If Tebow can’t get it done in a scrimmage against his OWN TEAM, then how the hell is going to get it done once the regular season starts?!?

    Sit down and LEARN, “Chosen One”………………….

    and “GO STEELERS!!!!!!”

  8. r8rsfan says: Aug 8, 2011 10:08 AM

    Let him ride on the horse with the chick during pregame, then give him a set of pom-poms because he’s basically a cheerleader anyway. All that machismo may work in college, but it’s not going to get it done at this level.

  9. gulaid26 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:09 AM

    They could use him as a powerback anyway. The impressive Tebow last year when people were impressed with him still had a sub 50% completion percentage. He is like Vince Young except worse.

  10. tjacks7 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:09 AM

    Not that I’m a Tebow basher or backer – but do you really expect the backup QB to put up better stats than the starter when playing with back ups, against the starting defense?

  11. ezdoesit209 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:11 AM

    He needs to NOT write any more books any time soon… that ‘might’ help cool his critics.

  12. bronconation7 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:12 AM

    He played against the 1st team D with the second team O. People are just ridiculous about Tebow. He’ll be fine.

  13. davemeisner says: Aug 8, 2011 10:12 AM

    I expect Dumervil and Von to rack up 3 sacks against the 2nd team o-line. This means absolutely nothing.

  14. captainslapnuts says: Aug 8, 2011 10:18 AM

    kehav1, pick one, best QB or future?

  15. captainslapnuts says: Aug 8, 2011 10:20 AM

    tjacks7, you are right, but if Tebow can’t hack it against the Denver starting d, what makes anyone think he can do it against any other starting d?

  16. redstar504 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:22 AM

    Timmy has to die first so on the 3rd he can rise again and become supper QB.

  17. lasher1650 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:24 AM

    marvsleezy says:
    Aug 8, 2011 10:02 AM
    Forget this chosen one junk – He didnt ask for any of that type of talk – Hes just living his life – I dont see why people want to get all over him when he fails. Let it go….

    ——————————————————-

    Have you seen the book? The commercials? The public speaking appearances? He puts himself out there and as he continues to fail, people will jump on him. He has done this to himself to a great degree.

  18. elgaffo says: Aug 8, 2011 10:29 AM

    He played against the 1st team D with the second team O. People are just ridiculous about Tebow. He’ll be fine.

    ————————————————–
    to be fair…isnt the broncos first team D about as good as anyone elses 2nd?
    so…….

  19. 6ringofsteel says: Aug 8, 2011 10:29 AM

    He was devistated when he was not drafted by the steelers because he will never get to feel greatness and see the rings. 6.

  20. mywifegavemecrabtree says: Aug 8, 2011 10:29 AM

    Good article in Orlando Sentinel this morning throwing out whys and why nots for trading Tebow to the Dolphins. If Denver (Fox) don’t want him, and the Dolphins don’t want their guy it might make more sense than Orton ever going their. At least we would know if he’s got “it” or not.

  21. tecmobowl34 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:29 AM

    marvsleezy says: Aug 8, 2011 10:02 AM

    Forget this chosen one junk – He didnt ask for any of that type of talk – Hes just living his life – I dont see why people want to get all over him when he fails. Let it go….

    ——————————————————-

    Yeah, he did ask for it. He welcomed and accepted the image as a “savior” or “chosen one”. It’s because his faith comes off as arrogance, and that’s Tebow’s fault, and no one else’s. There are plenty of religious/faithful NFL players, but none garner the harsh backlash Tebow does.

    I wonder why that is…? ‘Cause he’s a jerk about it

  22. blackheld says: Aug 8, 2011 10:31 AM

    The scary part is that he looked that bad against the Denver defense.

  23. Eric Fay says: Aug 8, 2011 10:32 AM

    read only the first and last paragraphs again and then someone tell me if we’re surprised or not surprised

  24. flagstaffphotos says: Aug 8, 2011 10:33 AM

    1 for 3 in a passing drill?

    Yup, that’s pretty much the Worst Performance In The History Of The Universe.

    Broncos should cut him immediately. If they don’t, I’m certain that the Denver fans have adequate cause for a managerial malpractice lawsuit against Bowlen & Elway. There should be a rush to the courthouse.

  25. sj39 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:37 AM

    6ringofsteel, just curious, how old are you?

  26. zoxitic says: Aug 8, 2011 10:38 AM

    They should try to make him into a Peyton Hillis. You remember him right, the superstar Denver let go for nothing.

  27. mostepicgnar says: Aug 8, 2011 10:42 AM

    I did hear after practice he turned a pile of sweaty jerseys into pizza for the team and the gatorade runneth over.

  28. baboushka says: Aug 8, 2011 10:43 AM

    Denver is blowing it completely with Tebow. They should do the obvious thing Belichick was going to do if he was available in the 3rd round of that draft. Convert him into an all purpose starting running back (wildcat, running, option passing, screens, receiving). That’s why little Hoodie McDaniel jumped the shark and drafted him #1. Just watch if Denver cuts him. NE will grab him and make him into a RB/Slot Back. They may even pop for him with a 6th round draft pick. Which is the most Denver will get for him now. After devaluing him so much.

  29. thephantomstranger says: Aug 8, 2011 10:47 AM

    tecmobowl34 says:
    Aug 8, 2011 10:29 AM
    marvsleezy says: Aug 8, 2011 10:02 AM

    Forget this chosen one junk – He didnt ask for any of that type of talk – Hes just living his life – I dont see why people want to get all over him when he fails. Let it go….

    ——————————————————-

    Yeah, he did ask for it. He welcomed and accepted the image as a “savior” or “chosen one”. It’s because his faith comes off as arrogance, and that’s Tebow’s fault, and no one else’s. There are plenty of religious/faithful NFL players, but none garner the harsh backlash Tebow does.

    I wonder why that is…? ‘Cause he’s a jerk about it
    ____________

    How does he “welcome” the image of savior or chosen one? He’s a giant celebrity because he was a great football player in college and because he’s unique in his upbringing and his off-field activities. All he’s doing is living out his faith, which by definition he has to do in the public eye. Your problem is you expect him to be something different in public than he is in private. Some people might call being the same in public as you are in private character or integrity. You call it being a jerk.

  30. mmmpieyummy says: Aug 8, 2011 10:49 AM

    Haha…loser Donkey fans. How’s that taste? Say goodbye to your little drummer boy.

  31. FoozieGrooler says: Aug 8, 2011 10:52 AM

    6ringofsteel says:
    Aug 8, 2011 10:29 AM
    “He was devistated when he was not drafted by the steelers because he will never get to feel greatness and see the rings. 6.”

    I guess any of you haven’t figured it out yet, 6ringofsteel is not Steelers fan, but rather some deranged, attention seeking troll.

  32. bengalsown says: Aug 8, 2011 10:53 AM

    Timmmmahhhhh!!!!!

  33. kyleortonsarm says: Aug 8, 2011 10:58 AM

    The Steele band wagons a little heavy even though their team got beat on like James Harrisons girlfriends face by Green Bay. I’m sure these guys were all Patriots fans until 08 and were also Broncos Fans in 98. Just ignore them and they’ll fade into obscurity just like their team.

  34. clivus63 says: Aug 8, 2011 10:58 AM

    Give him a #55 jersey and make him a linbacker.
    He can do it!!!

  35. drshankenstein says: Aug 8, 2011 10:59 AM

    Maybe he should “Pray on it”…

  36. mathsimillion says: Aug 8, 2011 11:03 AM

    So Kyle got to play with the 1st string offense against the 2nd string defense and couldn’t score either.

    Tim played with the 2nd string O-line and offense against Doom, Miller and the 1st string defense, got sacked, couldn’t score and he’s suddenly the worst QB on the team?

    Brady Quinn scored with the 3rd string offense against the 3rd string defense and all of a sudden he maybe should be the starter?

    I think it all means a whole lot of nothing since it isn’t an apples to apples comparison.

  37. tecmobowl34 says: Aug 8, 2011 11:04 AM

    thephantomstranger says: Aug 8, 2011 10:47 AM

    tecmobowl34 says:
    Aug 8, 2011 10:29 AM
    marvsleezy says: Aug 8, 2011 10:02 AM

    Forget this chosen one junk – He didnt ask for any of that type of talk – Hes just living his life – I dont see why people want to get all over him when he fails. Let it go….

    ——————————————————-

    Yeah, he did ask for it. He welcomed and accepted the image as a “savior” or “chosen one”. It’s because his faith comes off as arrogance, and that’s Tebow’s fault, and no one else’s. There are plenty of religious/faithful NFL players, but none garner the harsh backlash Tebow does.

    I wonder why that is…? ‘Cause he’s a jerk about it
    ____________

    How does he “welcome” the image of savior or chosen one?

    ———————————————

    Did he HAVE to write his “memoirs” when he was 24 (like he actually wrote that)? De he HAVE to film a pro-life television commercial that was going to be aired during the Super Bowl? Does he have to tell reporters (read Gregg Doyel’s piece on CBSSports if you don’t believe me) that it is ‘in God’s plan’ for him to be a star NFL quarterback?

    He thinks so much of himself that he has the nerve to believe that God cares about whether or not he is starting for the Broncos. That’s arrogance. That’s idolizing himself. That’s delusions of grandeur.

    He needs to keep in mind that he’s a snot-nosed 2nd year NFL QB, and not ‘the chosen one’. It’s why guys like me can’t stand him, and I’m not being unreasonable in my disliking of how he handles himself.

  38. jaxuar says: Aug 8, 2011 11:07 AM

    zoxitic says:Aug 8, 2011 10:38 AM

    They should try to make him into a Peyton Hillis. You remember him right, the superstar Denver let go for nothing.

    I agree…the guy will never be a successful QB but, could be a John Riggins! He needs to swallow his pride and suggest that to his coaches.

  39. imjinbrdgr says: Aug 8, 2011 11:10 AM

    What he needs is a couple years in Mike McCarthys Quarterback School. I’d love to see everbody give up on him so maybe that could happen

  40. lodan60 says: Aug 8, 2011 11:10 AM

    Orton never took one snap against the #1 defense, worked only against #2, #3 defense. He had better look sharper than Tebow, was to be expected!

  41. soupercamp says: Aug 8, 2011 11:15 AM

    Orton is looking great in practice?! Sounds familiar.

    As a long time Broncos fan, I was excited about Orton last year during camp and preseason games. He was dominating Tebow and Quinn. He looked great in the preseason games.

    Then the season started.

    The Broncos couldn’t score.

    Heck, he was only able to guide the first string offense to two FGs against the second team defense in the scrimmage this article is talking about.

    Dumervil got two sacks facing all-world Herb Taylor on the second team offensive line. Sweet.

    Listen, in Tebow’s first three NFL starts the Broncos average 25 ppg. Orton averaged 20.6 ppg as a 6 year vet that looks like Peyton Manning in practice.

    If Kyle “piddle on myself when there is pressure” Orton is the starter then I hope he does well.

    I’m not holding my breath.

  42. hobartbaker says: Aug 8, 2011 11:37 AM

    Sounds like maybe they are fluffing up Orton to make him more attractive to interested parties. At least one team out there is bound to panic as they watch their QB situation unfold in camp. Andy Dalton? Come on, be serious. Bengals bring in a better QB before the year starts.

  43. bigdog214 says: Aug 8, 2011 11:39 AM

    mywifegavemecrabtree says:
    Aug 8, 2011 10:29 AM
    Good article in Orlando Sentinel this morning throwing out whys and why nots for trading Tebow to the Dolphins. If Denver (Fox) don’t want him, and the Dolphins don’t want their guy it might make more sense than Orton ever going their. At least we would know if he’s got “it” or not.

    ___________________________________
    The Dolphins don’t want Tebow. We already have enough QB’s that suck since Marino retired – we don’t need one more with a God complex.

  44. hobartbaker says: Aug 8, 2011 11:40 AM

    Lol, Phillis is a “superstar” and Tebow is John Riggins. O.K.

  45. routerunner says: Aug 8, 2011 11:44 AM

    I like how they say he was “stuck” playing the #1 defense. I’m sure other teams will take it easy on him.

  46. dizzle1016 says: Aug 8, 2011 11:46 AM

    As a Broncos fan it is a little disconcerning that the starter Orton can only get 2 field goals playing against the worst defenses 2nd String. Yikes! Good news DOOM is back! Albeit against 2nd string OLine…

  47. buckybadger says: Aug 8, 2011 11:46 AM

    @hobartbaker. Dalton is more NFL ready than Tebow and the Bengals brought in Bruce Growkoski[sp?] to be his veteran mentor. They wouldn’t go after Orton because Orton has made it known he doesn’t want to tutor a kid but be the guy. Orton isn’t going anywhere.

  48. dizzle1016 says: Aug 8, 2011 11:49 AM

    It’s also getting old with the faith jokes…they were funny the first time around but it’s year 2 and you all don’t have new material. #LockoutEffectedCleverness

  49. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 8, 2011 11:53 AM

    Watching Tebow against the Raiders last year, I thought he just looked like a big athletic kid who’d be good in a neighborhood game. He didn’t look much like an NFL quarterback.

    I don’t think I’ll change my opinion soon.

  50. paulbrownsrevenge says: Aug 8, 2011 11:59 AM

    I say start Orton, or trade him to a desperate team (miami) for good compensation. Tebow doesn’t belong on an NFL field at QB. He still throws the ball like a high school kid. If Brady Quinn could get you through until you pick first overall, then do that.

  51. trickbunny says: Aug 8, 2011 12:03 PM

    6ringofsteel says:
    Aug 8, 2011 10:29 AM

    He was devistated when he was not drafted by the steelers because he will never get to feel greatness and see the rings. 6.
    —————————————————
    “Devistated”. Nice work. I’m guessing you quit school in… 6th grade?

    And yes, we get it now. You just go from story to story, posting the same thing. Got it- it’s a comedy act. You just post something obnoxious about the Steelers in every story, trying to get an angry reaction because your own life is *that* unsatisfying. What a weirdo.

    Thing is, everyone’s onto you now and knows you’re not serious- just a dumbass. Oh, and btw, you also post as “stairwayto7″. Yeah. I know.

  52. cbass59 says: Aug 8, 2011 12:06 PM

    Just want to remind Denver fans that McDaniel traded draft picks to move up and draft Tebow in a round no one expected him to be drafted in. But I think that says it all:McDaniel drafted him. I’ve never seen a coach dismatle a team so quickly (Cutler, Marshall, Hillis for Quinn???). It”s almost as if he went there to ruin Denver but I can’t figure out why he would hate the Broncos.

    He is from Cle so maybe this is payback for the Kosar years losses? I would say Den prevented Cle from ebarrassing SBs though…

  53. scerpico22 says: Aug 8, 2011 12:07 PM

    @marvsleezy:

    didnt ask for this???? pardon me but didnt this self absorbed egotistical mr. goody two shoes write a freakin book thats an inspirational memoir about life as he chose to live it @ age 25?????

    get over yourself Tebow

    …all while hiding behind his bible!

    he will never lead an NFL team anywhere…carrier backup gone in 5 years…

    just go away already….boarder line more annoying than Favre already.

  54. snowpea84 says: Aug 8, 2011 12:10 PM

    Have you ever seen a second string )-Line against a First string D-line??? People get upset enough when one starting lineman goes down. Imagine any QB trying to do it with all backups.

  55. BroncoNick says: Aug 8, 2011 12:19 PM

    Talk about setting up Tebow to fail…
    2nd team offense against 1st team defense?!
    Come on people!
    If we really want to judge him then let’s give him a fair chance at least!

  56. flik44 says: Aug 8, 2011 12:19 PM

    Can PFT maybe get the focus off of a guy drafted 22nd and maybe focus on a guy drafted #1 overall? Where are the Cam Newton can’t play articles? Oh, NM… I forgot the agenda…

  57. jrusso187 says: Aug 8, 2011 12:28 PM

    I really dont understand all of the tebow hate.
    he gave up 3 “sacks” in a scrimage where all the d-end has to do is put a finger on him. thats awesome good job Elvis. in all reality he should sit this year. Rodgers sat 3 or 4 behind Farve and it did wonders for him.There is no need to rush his devlopment. further more im a Raider fan and im scared of what Tebow can become. He has the work ethic to make himself better. At every level hes been at he has been told he could not play and he has proven the doubters wrong every time. I witnessed the JaMarcus Russel era and i would gladly have taken a guy how will strive to be better than a guy who will rest on his pruely talent alone. He’s played 3 games.. 3 and did not look all that bad he played like a rookie. Josh Freeman looker terriable his rookie year. he had all of the same questions about him as Tebow and last season Freeman put up a 26-5 td to int ratio. Give tebow a chace to learn and show what he can do. Rich Gannon had high praise of Tebow so has Steve Young and Jim Kelly. I will take there evaluation over all of you. They played the position not you. they know how to play in the leauge, you dont. so give Tebow a break and asess him after he plays a season or two

  58. bangyourhead4 says: Aug 8, 2011 12:29 PM

    So I live here in Jacksonville, home of Tebow.
    I have been telling gator fans who I work with for some time now, that he didnt have what he needed to be an NFL caliber QB. I think this story proves my point.

  59. jrusso187 says: Aug 8, 2011 12:43 PM

    @bang your head 3 practice sacks in a red jersey makes you suck? stick to your day job playing the dums on buckets outside of baseball stadiums

  60. thephantomstranger says: Aug 8, 2011 12:52 PM

    tecmobowl34 says:
    Aug 8, 2011 11:04 AM

    How does he “welcome” the image of savior or chosen one?

    ———————————————

    Did he HAVE to write his “memoirs” when he was 24 (like he actually wrote that)? De he HAVE to film a pro-life television commercial that was going to be aired during the Super Bowl? Does he have to tell reporters (read Gregg Doyel’s piece on CBSSports if you don’t believe me) that it is ‘in God’s plan’ for him to be a star NFL quarterback?

    He thinks so much of himself that he has the nerve to believe that God cares about whether or not he is starting for the Broncos. That’s arrogance. That’s idolizing himself. That’s delusions of grandeur.

    He needs to keep in mind that he’s a snot-nosed 2nd year NFL QB, and not ‘the chosen one’. It’s why guys like me can’t stand him, and I’m not being unreasonable in my disliking of how he handles himself.
    ___________

    I did read Gregg Doyel’s piece and I was disgusted by how he went beyond Tebow’s actual comments and made a whole column out of what he thinks Tebow is thinking. He did not say it was “in God’s plan” that he be a star NFL QB (you might want to be careful with those quotation marks). He said “They don’t know what I’m capable of and what’s inside me. My family and my friends have been bothered by what’s gone on, and I tell them to pay no attention to it. I’m relying as always on my faith.” He also said “Others who say I won’t make it are wrong” and later, “I know that all this will have a way of working out.” At no time does he even hint that God is going to make him a star QB. He’s stating that he has confidence in his abilities, his faith will help him get through a difficult time, and one way or another, he’s going to be fine. How does that turn into “God is going to make me a starter so I don’t have to worry about it”?

    People who hate are going to interpret things in a way that fuels their hate.

  61. tecmobowl34 says: Aug 8, 2011 1:16 PM

    @thephantomstranger

    And people who are going to defend Tebow are going to be blind to the reasons people don’t like him. They are going to interpret things in a way that fuels their infatuation with an overhyped athlete, one who has a serious problem of alienating fans, teammates, and fellow NFL players because of the way he flaunts his religious beliefs.

    Sorry, that’s the objective truth. Haters are gonna hate, that’s true – and those who follow him blindly are just that – blind to the rational points that the haters have.

  62. captainslapnuts says: Aug 8, 2011 1:19 PM

    So Kyle got to play with the 1st string offense against the 2nd string defense and couldn’t score either.

    ___

    Yes and it’s Orton’s fault Decker drops a catchable ball that would’ve been a TD, right?

  63. redmosquitoma says: Aug 8, 2011 1:21 PM

    Elway’s an idiot for creating this situation. He publicly announced that a reach of a 1st round pick with a questionable throwing motion, who’s only just finished his 1st year in the NFL by hardly playing, is the starter. And this was based on what? Tebows can do “we can do this guys!” attitude? Yeah Tebow won in college and the guys got a sunny outlook on life. But that doesnt get it done at the NFL level. Drew Brees was a better qb when he came into the league and how long did it take for him to ‘get it’? 3 years or so? Tebow sounds like a great guy but that doesnt win games. The guy needs to sit and learn from Orton for a bit. I still don’t think the funky throwing actions going anywhere tho.

  64. captainslapnuts says: Aug 8, 2011 1:22 PM

    Orton is looking great in practice?! Sounds familiar.

    As a long time Broncos fan, I was excited about Orton last year during camp and preseason games. He was dominating Tebow and Quinn. He looked great in the preseason games.

    Then the season started.

    The Broncos couldn’t score.

    Heck, he was only able to guide the first string offense to two FGs against the second team defense in the scrimmage this article is talking about.

    Dumervil got two sacks facing all-world Herb Taylor on the second team offensive line. Sweet.

    Listen, in Tebow’s first three NFL starts the Broncos average 25 ppg. Orton averaged 20.6 ppg as a 6 year vet that looks like Peyton Manning in practice.

    If Kyle “piddle on myself when there is pressure” Orton is the starter then I hope he does well.

    I’m not holding my breath.

    _____

    A few flaws in your statements:

    1. Tebow averaged 25 PPG against 3 teams at the end of the year, one of which being a defense that a high school team could’ve scored on and he still was only 1-2.

    2. Orton did everything he could do as an individual to get Denver to score. He can’t control people dropping catchable balls, having no run game, and having an o line that allowed sacks like they were paychecks.

    3. See my post above.

  65. captainslapnuts says: Aug 8, 2011 1:26 PM

    jrusso, the problem is, most Tebow fans don’t feel he should sit, where that is the problem. There are the Tebow fans, who could care less about how the Broncos do, there are the Broncos fans who just want to see Tebow because they don’t care about this season, and then there are the true fans who actually want to win and know that Orton gives them the best option.

    Rethink your rhetoric and realize what the issues really are.

  66. thephantomstranger says: Aug 8, 2011 1:37 PM

    @tecmobowl -

    Thanks for your objectivity. I’m not saying he’s going to be a great quarterback, although I think he has a better chance of succeeding than most people are willing to give him. I just don’t think living your life according to your faith is the same thing as flaunting your religious beliefs. Should he stop visiting prisons, working with charities, and making mission trips? Sorry that his autobiography offended you, but he’s accomplished more at age 24 than you will ever accomplish in your life (just guessing at that, but I think I have a pretty good shot at being right). Your problem is you think he should keep his faith to himself, but if he did that, he wouldn’t be living out his faith.

  67. paulymags says: Aug 8, 2011 1:41 PM

    Maybe Tebow isn’t your every down QB (I hope he is, but only time will tell), but he should have a spot on field in certain situations or packages. Just like in his freshman year with the Gators.

  68. granadafan says: Aug 8, 2011 2:12 PM

    Perhaps Tebow wouldn’t have so many critics waiting to jump on every setback if he had not set himself up for so many critics. People want to see football players, not preachers. People don’t want religion thrown in their faces where it doesn’t belong. Saying that every success/setback is simply “God’s Will” makes you look rather stupid and egotistical without giving any sort of credit to those around you or blaming yourself for failures. Making that ill-advised anti-abortion commercial for the most watched television show in the country as a college player instantly made him a target, and rightly so.

    Gator fans are not helping his case either with their worship of this kid and the rose colored glasses blind support to his abilities/inabilities in the NFL. Their obnoxious blind allegiance attacking anyone who dares criticize him all over the internet make Tebow’s critics bash him all much more.

    Tebow’s antics and Gator fans make it easy to cheer for him to fail.

  69. soupercamp says: Aug 8, 2011 2:14 PM

    A few flaws in your statements:

    1. Tebow averaged 25 PPG against 3 teams at the end of the year, one of which being a defense that a high school team could’ve scored on and he still was only 1-2.

    2. Orton did everything he could do as an individual to get Denver to score. He can’t control people dropping catchable balls, having no run game, and having an o line that allowed sacks like they were paychecks.

    ___________________

    1. So he beat the team he should have beat, but we are holding that against him? In fact, in a QB’s second ever start in the NFL, winning in a come from behind by 17 points at the half game is pretty impressive.

    The two games he lost were against division rivals that we’d already seen play against Orton. Orton’s result? A 59-14 embarrassment at home against the Raiders. The Tebow led Broncos on the road in his first ever start were competitive the whole game until the end when as usual, our defense forgot how to play.

    Against the Chargers we were beaten handily 35-14 with Orton at the helm. With Tebow, it came down to the last play. We lost by 5.

    I don’t care about how pretty someone’s spiral looks in practice or how many yards a QB can rack up when they aren’t scoring. Give me the QB who puts up points even if it isn’t pretty.

    2. Orton did everything he could to score points? Well it wasn’t enough. With the same team Tebow actually did score more points. In fact, Kyle was so bad that a few times in the redzone, they trotted Tebow out there to get the TD. He got the TD 100% of the time in those opportunities. You are welcome, Kyle.

    Listen, I’m not a blind Tebow homer. But does anybody actually use real logic anymore? The consensus is that Orton gives the Broncos the best chance to win. But based off of what? The way he looks in practice?

    25 ppg vs 20.6 ppg is what we have to go off of right now. What gives the team a better chance to win? Should be pretty logical…

  70. imopen7 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:21 PM

    woof woof
    “whats that Lassie…Timmy is down on the ground again?”

    good boy

  71. raidernation3739 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:25 PM

    oh denver fans, the nation can’t wait to feast upon you again!

  72. tecmobowl34 says: Aug 8, 2011 2:51 PM

    @thephantomstranger

    thanks for taking a cheap shot. u mad bro?

    I’m not saying Tebow hasn’t accomplished anything or that he doesn’t do good things for other people – I’m saying that when you go on speaking tours, go on talk shows, make commercials, and write books about how you go do all those great things…expect people to think you’re a haughty, sanctimonious phony.

  73. tecmobowl34 says: Aug 8, 2011 3:05 PM

    @soupercamp

    “I don’t care about how pretty someone’s spiral looks in practice or how many yards a QB can rack up when they aren’t scoring. Give me the QB who puts up points even if it isn’t pretty.”

    jay cutler wishes denver fans would have been saying that a couple years ago

  74. thephantomstranger says: Aug 8, 2011 4:26 PM

    @tecmobowl -

    You didn’t need to use so many words to explain yourself. Just say “haters hate.” It’s obvious that the motivation behind your comments is envy and jealousy.

  75. captainslapnuts says: Aug 8, 2011 4:39 PM

    soupercamp, I think that proves the point that the QB position isn’t the issue, the defense is and was. You’re comparing a 3 game stretch to a 13 game stretch. Tebow is a different QB, granted, but it wasn’t his leadership or his motivation that kept the Broncos in those games.

    Caleb Hanie almost helped the Bears win the NFC Championship last year, does that mean he should start the year over Cutler?

  76. yajas says: Aug 8, 2011 5:12 PM

    zoxitic says: “They should try to make him into a Peyton Hillis. You remember him right, the superstar Denver let go for nothing.”

    As a Browns fan, I have to say thanks again for that one.

  77. davoider says: Aug 8, 2011 6:12 PM

    Tebow to the Dolphins won’t happen, because, well, they don’t want him. No NFL team does. I have heard plenty of people claim he should be a FB, but in all honesty I think he would make a terrible FB. His talents qualify him to be a damn good motivational speaker, but that doesn’t translate to very many jobs at this level.

  78. mathsimillion says: Aug 8, 2011 7:40 PM

    @captainlapnuts

    Tebow also played against the #1 rated D in the entire league and came back from 17 down to almost beat them. Orton also played them and didn’t fare so well.

    Orton played some pretty bad defenses last year as well. They surely weren’t all top 10.

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