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Looking at Christian Ponder’s progress

Donovan McNabb, Christian Ponder AP

We hesitate to pass along too many practice reports because things change so much from day-to-day in training camp.  But we’ve heard enough similar reports in Minnesota to pass this one along.

“This offense is tough to watch right now,” Tom Pelissero of espn1500.com wrote about the Vikings Tuesday morning after a pair of ugly Donovan McNabb passes.

The quarterbacks aren’t the only ones getting criticized.  Kyle Rudolph, who has reportedly had a strong camp, had a very rough morning full of drops.  The offensive line has struggled in general, and there are questions about how well new left tackle Charlie Johnson will hold up.

This is not an offense a rookie quarterback should be running.  Christian Ponder reportedly has looked solid in camp, but has a tendency to just dump the ball off instead of going through his progressions.  That’s to be expected for a rookie.

“You know he does a lot of very good things,” Vikings VP Rick Spielman said on PFT Live Tuesday. “There’s no question about the intelligence part and the quick decision-making part. But I think, just like all the rookies or all the new guys, when you start installing your offense and then all of a sudden when you get halfway through training camp, they’re putting in so much that it’ll get a little overwhelming at times.”

With a new offensive coordinator and scheme to install, it could be overwhelming for a lot of Vikings.

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41 Responses to “Looking at Christian Ponder’s progress”
  1. claymath52 says: Aug 9, 2011 3:51 PM

    There going to be Terrible (carl gerbschmidt voice)

  2. everydayimfumbilin says: Aug 9, 2011 3:52 PM

    vikings are a mess and arent going anywhere

  3. hobartbaker says: Aug 9, 2011 3:56 PM

    Ponder loves camp except when McNabb parades him around and asks the other players what they think of his boy. Chris figures it’s just a dominance thing.

  4. houmas says: Aug 9, 2011 3:56 PM

    McNabb’s ugly passes surely can’t be his fault. Surely it has to have something to do with the Redskins or Andy Reid

  5. theytukrjobs says: Aug 9, 2011 4:07 PM

    They’ve had a week of practice. They have a new offensive scheme and coordinator and QB. They are going against a veteran defense that hasn’t changed scheme or coordinator and isn’t starting a new guy at any position (they do have several reserves being elevated to a starting role, but none of them are new to the team).

    One should expect the offense to be getting whipped right now, as they are. But that’s why you have practice.

  6. buhbay1c says: Aug 9, 2011 4:08 PM

    I’ll be concerned if they still look this crappy after the second preseason game. Anyways let’s get on with it, c’mon down packer trolls!

  7. rodgersblowproblem says: Aug 9, 2011 4:09 PM

    Great Grammar in Cheeseland.

  8. doowix says: Aug 9, 2011 4:10 PM

    Ponder should be very effective at keeping the seat warm for Andrew Luck.

  9. popwarner says: Aug 9, 2011 4:12 PM

    Hmmmm…..Whats up with the quasi-porn music going on in the background when Rick is talking???

  10. qdog112 says: Aug 9, 2011 4:15 PM

    Christian’s stealing money. Ponder doesn’t know this, but Merril Hoge is on his way. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t find Ponder in way over his head. Can you say Jimmy Clausen 2.0. The guy is not a starter in the NFL. You don’t draft a guy that high and give excuses, unless he’s a major bust.

    Some GM should get fired for this pick. How does FSU get ranked #5 after their pro QB is gone and were around #20, with him?

  11. dgforreal says: Aug 9, 2011 4:17 PM

    We hesitate to pass along too many practice reports because things change so much from day-to-day in training.

    No, please keep doing what you’re doing. I enjoy the updates after spending time wondering if we’d ever get back here.

    I love it, football is back and I’ll read every little update you guys post.

  12. snowpea84 says: Aug 9, 2011 4:20 PM

    Wait? Is anyone supposed to count terrible passes from McNabb as news???Why???Thats the norm.

  13. mojosmagic says: Aug 9, 2011 4:22 PM

    All this without a pass rush. Good luck!

  14. carlgerbschmidt says: Aug 9, 2011 4:26 PM

    But…I thought they said they were just re-loading…

  15. claymath52 says: Aug 9, 2011 4:27 PM

    Dey is gunna be Turrible….. Still funny no matter the grammer.

  16. spawnsacs says: Aug 9, 2011 4:30 PM

    theytukrjobs says:
    Aug 9, 2011 4:07 PM
    They’ve had a week of practice. They have a new offensive scheme and coordinator and QB. They are going against a veteran defense that hasn’t changed scheme or coordinator and isn’t starting a new guy at any position (they do have several reserves being elevated to a starting role, but none of them are new to the team).

    One should expect the offense to be getting whipped right now, as they are. But that’s why you have practice.
    ———————————————–
    Funny how your biggest upgrade this offseason was the addition of a 34 year old washed up QB instead of the courting of a 41 year old washed up QB.

    “One should expect the offense to be getting whipped right now”…this statement will be even more funny in week 15 after yet another blowout loss……

    Way to plan for the future Vikings…..Enjoy 6-10…..

  17. cesquire says: Aug 9, 2011 4:33 PM

    Ponder blamed his poor play at Fitzgerald’s offseason workout on being “rusty” even though he at spent most of his summer at IMG Academies with Chris Weinke. He said the same thing when the first couple of days of training camp didn’t go so well. I guess he can’t blame it on being rusty now, can he?

  18. mnpacker says: Aug 9, 2011 4:34 PM

    Focus on Packer fans grammar, because that’s all u got on Packers. That being said, I hope ponder turns out to b a good qb, I love a good rivalry

  19. davikes says: Aug 9, 2011 4:42 PM

    If AD can catch half as well as Westbrook, he’s going to have a huge year. IF. But Chilly never really let him try, so we don’t know.

  20. btowngetsdown says: Aug 9, 2011 5:01 PM

    “We hesitate to pass along too many practice reports”…….You do???? I’m pretty sure you’ve been passing along practice reports all day today. Don’t get me wrong, I think we are interested in reading them, but not sure why you deny doing it.

  21. zn0rseman says: Aug 9, 2011 5:03 PM

    Anybody else think it’s a little more than a coincidence that everywhere McNabb has ever played QB all of the receivers are criticized for lots of drops?

    Balls thrown at your feet are hard to catch.

  22. thephantomstranger says: Aug 9, 2011 5:05 PM

    claymath52 says:
    Aug 9, 2011 3:51 PM
    There going to be Terrible (carl gerbschmidt voice)
    ______________

    Thank you for including Carl’s trademark misspelled word.

  23. thephantomstranger says: Aug 9, 2011 5:06 PM

    I went to training camp today but missed most of practice. Sounds like it was a good day to miss. I can report that my boys were awesome on the obstacle course.

  24. thephantomstranger says: Aug 9, 2011 5:11 PM

    carlgerbschmidt says:
    Aug 9, 2011 4:26 PM
    But…I thought they said they were just re-loading…
    ____________

    I’ve explained this many times. This is a transition year. They’re phasing out some old players and easing in some new players. They have a new coaching staff and a new quarterback who isn’t ready to play, but there is still a lot of veteran talent. This will be about an 8-8 season, then next year…watch out!

  25. rodgerthat says: Aug 9, 2011 5:13 PM

    I wouldn’t put much stock in this article. Its early. I was over at the Packers practice and the D smacked the O around like a red headed step child (personal experience)…… For the most part the Pack hasnt brought in many new faces on O so that excuse has nothing to do with it. The offenses are still trying to absorb the playbooks while the defenses are teeing up on them.

  26. ruvelligwebuike says: Aug 9, 2011 5:25 PM

    Believe it or not, I actually think Ponder could be a very good pro in the right system.

    Unfortunately for him, he was drafted by a team that hasn’t developed a championship quarterback in it’s existence. And their solution, per usual, is to bring in a primadonna choke-artist to mentor him.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

  27. jacksaysfu says: Aug 9, 2011 5:31 PM

    I just wanted to thank the skins for that 2nd and 4th again. .At least Minn didn’t get suckered. Good luck #5 , you and AP will fit perfectly .

  28. nfldoc says: Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM

    Might as well send the playbook to Andrew Luck now.

  29. rugdog100 says: Aug 9, 2011 5:45 PM

    qdog112 — nice mindless rant

  30. football2011 says: Aug 9, 2011 6:12 PM

    10 days of training camp after a 5 month lockout. Its not too early to pass judgement (read sarcastically)

  31. thephantomstranger says: Aug 9, 2011 6:21 PM

    rugdog100 says:
    Aug 9, 2011 5:45 PM
    qdog112 — nice mindless rant
    _________

    Wait. qdog112 and rugdog100? Are you guys brothers or something?

  32. grandpoopah says: Aug 9, 2011 6:23 PM

    Congratulations, Detroit Lions! For the first time in recent memory, you are longer the worst team in the NFC Norris division.

  33. grandpoopah says: Aug 9, 2011 6:28 PM

    Congratulations, Detroit Lions! You are no longer the worst team in the NFC Norris division.

  34. theduuuuuuuuuude says: Aug 9, 2011 6:47 PM

    I like how everyone is freaking out over a rookie QB struggling with the offense after a week of practice. Sounds like pretty much every rookie QB in the league ever (with a few exceptions like P. Manning etc.) How is this even a story? He’s not even going to be the starter come week one so he has plenty of time to get up to speed. I wouldn’t worry about how the team looks just yet, because every team is getting hit with injuries right now and everyone is a little rusty due to the lock out. Relax everyone.

  35. carlgerbschmidt says: Aug 9, 2011 8:22 PM

    thephantomstranger says:Aug 9, 2011 5:05 PM

    claymath52 says:
    Aug 9, 2011 3:51 PM
    There going to be Terrible (carl gerbschmidt voice)
    ______________

    Thank you for including Carl’s trademark misspelled word.
    ______________

    Hey grammar cop, who cares? Your team is still terrible. Why don’t you get off our thread?

  36. bobnelsonjr says: Aug 9, 2011 8:36 PM

    If he ever gets any recognition it will be for P4.

    Pounded Purple Ponder Pile.

  37. purplehayseuss says: Aug 9, 2011 8:44 PM

    Packer fans are far, far too lofty and superior to ever stop bashing at every chance they get. I’ve said it before: If the Minnesota Vikings beat the Holy Green Bay Packers just once this year, no matter the circumstances or the score. you Packer Faithful better

    SHUT
    YOUR
    MOUTH

    If you’re so damn good and have all the answers, you’d better win ‘em all going away, laughing with superiority and hubris (look it up). Green Bay and Holy Lambeau had better be the home of the next two Lombardi Trophies, at least. Rogers better play through a separated throwing shoulder, Jennings, Finley and Jones better catch 30 TDs each, and you’d better block at least a dozen field goals and punts this season.

    Green Bay had better WIN the NFC North division with home field advantage and blow out the Super Bowl. This is the NFL, and every other NFL team wants to beat you. Not just beat you, but KICK YOUR ASS. Running your loud, snotty mouths make victory sweeter, but any little tiny slip up by the Holy Packers, and I’m laughing my ass off.

  38. claymath52 says: Aug 9, 2011 11:33 PM

    purplehayseuss says:

    Packer fans are far, far too lofty and superior to ever stop bashing at every chance they get. I’ve said it before: If the Minnesota Vikings beat the Holy Green Bay Packers just once this year, no matter the circumstances or the score. you Packer Faithful better

    SHUT
    YOUR
    MOUTH

    If you’re so damn good and have all the answers, you’d better win ‘em all going away, laughing with superiority and hubris (look it up). Green Bay and Holy Lambeau had better be the home of the next two Lombardi Trophies, at least. Rogers better play through a separated throwing shoulder, Jennings, Finley and Jones better catch 30 TDs each, and you’d better block at least a dozen field goals and punts this season.

    Green Bay had better WIN the NFC North division with home field advantage and blow out the Super Bowl. This is the NFL, and every other NFL team wants to beat you. Not just beat you, but KICK YOUR ASS. Running your loud, snotty mouths make victory sweeter, but any little tiny slip up by the Holy Packers, and I’m laughing my ass off.

    __________________________________

    Look Jose… we can back up all the talk because right now we are the Champs. We can lose every game all season long and still smack talk you Queens fans because your franchise is a JOKE. Everyone wants to leave…Rice, Leber to name a few. Until the Queens win a Super Bowl, you will never be on the same level. It’s a shame that AP is wasting his career with a team that will never give him the success he deserves. Ever been to Lambeau? Obviously not because then you’d know it is the best venue in football. Even Queens fans can have a good time there (until the game starts of course).

  39. purplehayseuss says: Aug 10, 2011 10:47 AM

    Ow! Ow! Stop saying Queens! Ow! Ow! Peterson doesn’t want to leave, or he’d be demanding to be traded to the Holy Packers to have a ‘successful career’, where he ‘gets what he deserves’… But then, you all called him bad names for his media gaffe, so that ‘success’ must be tempered with proving he’s actually desirable by the Holy Pack. Can’t have the best RB in the NFL if he’s shown that he may not represent NFL Holiness the way the rest of the Packers obviously do.

    Why did Jenkins leave? Why did James Jones even take three seconds to consider signing with another team – MINNESOTA? Why does the Packers’ offense in this preseason/camp/OTA period stink? Why did Sharper leave? Longwell? Nick Barnett must already be in heavy counseling to have been released by the Holy Pack; His career is certainly over. He must not, by Holy Decree, be a winner any more.

    Just be sure that Matthews gets 43 sacks this season, 29 against Minnesota. Just you make certain of that.

  40. mdd913 says: Aug 10, 2011 11:07 AM

    boy it would be a real shame if this team went 2-14.

    NOT

  41. axespray says: Aug 10, 2011 1:51 PM

    Christian Ponder reportedly has looked solid in camp, but has a tendency to just dump the ball off instead of going through his progressions.

    ^ he’s gonna have to become captain checkdown once he’s playing against the Packers/Lions/Bears defenses….welcome to the NFC North kid.

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