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Warren Sapp: Josh Freeman is an MVP candidate

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Warren Sapp won a Super Bowl ring during his time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but after spending time around the Bucs today, he said he’s jealous of what the current Bucs team has.

Specifically, Sapp said that Buccaneers quarterback Josh Freeman is better than any quarterback Sapp ever had for a teammate in Tampa Bay.

“The one thing this team has that I never had is a franchise quarterback,” Sapp told the Tampa Tribune. “They have a franchise quarterback and I see the kid as an MVP candidate this year.”

Freeman has obvious physical tools, but Sapp is more impressed with Freeman’s leadership qualities.

“This young man, there’s something about him,” Sapp said. “Watching this kid grow and watching the young men around him grow with him, he commands them.”

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  1. axespray says: Aug 10, 2011 6:01 PM

    love how dukes/colin cowherd/and sapp spent the last few off-seasons ripping on Rodgers/Rivers/Flacco, yet they’re crowning Josh, Tebow, and Matty Ice….pfff…

  2. skulman7 says: Aug 10, 2011 6:01 PM

    Well technically every player in the league is an MVP candidate, that doesn’t mean they’ll win lol. Freeman’s good, but he’s not at that level yet.

  3. martylaughlin says: Aug 10, 2011 6:03 PM

    DOUBT IT

  4. lildon96 says: Aug 10, 2011 6:03 PM

    “Watch your mouth, fatty” – Brad Johnson

  5. conseannery says: Aug 10, 2011 6:04 PM

    I have to admit, I thought Tampa reached for him in the draft. I was wrong. I’d take him on my beloved Phins in a heartbeat.

  6. bucsarethebestteaminthenfc says: Aug 10, 2011 6:05 PM

    Best young QB in the league.

  7. readysethike says: Aug 10, 2011 6:06 PM

    it remains to be seen, but i always thought Freeman is the best QB of his draft class.

  8. Picked_Off says: Aug 10, 2011 6:08 PM

    Going to an exciting couple years watching this kid develop into an elite QB in this league. Hopefully his potential is realized.

  9. aldavisisthenfl says: Aug 10, 2011 6:09 PM

    Warren is the classic case study on why we as young people should stay away from pot………..

  10. zinn22 says: Aug 10, 2011 6:15 PM

    I was really impressed with Freeman last year. Sapp is right the Bucs are lucky to have him and even with theor poor ownership the future looks bright, But making that jump to elite is a pretty big step.

    I would not surprised to see him and the Bucs take a step back next year. But even taking a step back he would be a pretty good QB.

    I just wish the Jets had taken him instead of Sanchez. With Freeman as QB they likely would be 2 time defending SB champs instead of a team hoping their $50 million can one day develop into a mediocre game manager type QB. When I see Freeman it makes me sad because he just said what if the jets were a bit smarter. But then again that is the story of the Jets franchise.

  11. cheesewhiz12 says: Aug 10, 2011 6:15 PM

    bucsarethebestteaminthenfc says:
    Aug 10, 2011 6:05 PM
    Best young QB in the league.

    Really? Ya Aaron Rodgers didn’t just win superbowl MVP, you’re right.

  12. jimr10 says: Aug 10, 2011 6:19 PM

    Warren is a professional blow hard.

  13. tdk24 says: Aug 10, 2011 6:20 PM

    Sapp is a crazy person. Have they started t o play real games yet? Let’s hear what you have to say when the regular season is almost over. But before preseason, just keep you big mouth shut. The NFL network has the worst people doing that show. Faulk and Eisen are ok, but the rest? Saw Irvin going at it with Eisen about DeSean holding out, i know off topic, but hey, idc, and Irvin sounded like an insane crackhead. It was amazing that they didn’t just cut to commercial. I think Sapp is following in Irvin’s footsteps.

  14. lionpride10 says: Aug 10, 2011 6:21 PM

    He won’t be the team MVP

  15. h8trsgonnah8 says: Aug 10, 2011 6:21 PM

    So Demarcus Ware cant lead ants to a picnic but Freeman is an MVP candidate. Cmon Sapp your ignorance is showing.

  16. www.creedthoughts.gov.www/creedthoughts says: Aug 10, 2011 6:23 PM

    Let’s see if he can actually win games against WINNING teams this year. They had a weak schedule last year, and only won 1 game last year against teams with a winning record (which was a gimme against the Saints, who had already clinched).

  17. irishgary says: Aug 10, 2011 6:31 PM

    Does anyone really listen to this tard?

  18. seneca1ss says: Aug 10, 2011 6:37 PM

    Sapp Daddy is finally playing nice guy in Tampa after treating the local fans like trash for 10yrs. Enjoy the hall of fame you low life (many of us know the stuff you did around here for a decade but the MEDIA PROTECTED YOU)

  19. jnbnet says: Aug 10, 2011 6:41 PM

    tdk24 says:
    Aug 10, 2011 6:20 PM
    Faulk and Eisen are ok, but the rest? Saw Irvin going at it with Eisen about DeSean holding out, i know off topic, but hey, idc, and Irvin sounded like an insane crackhead. It was amazing that they didn’t just cut to commercial. I think Sapp is following in Irvin’s footsteps.
    ================================
    He has to take a fit and throw some garbage cans around.

  20. mississippibred says: Aug 10, 2011 6:45 PM

    he also had the 6th best passer rating in the NFL

    better than Flacco, Matt Ryan, or Mark Sanchez.

    25 touchdowns 6 interceptions, throwing to rookies and a gimpy kellen winslow

    (and whoever says its not fair because peyton was missing peices last year? freeman’s number one wr and rb were both rookies. stop whining.)

  21. mississippibred says: Aug 10, 2011 6:46 PM

    o and we beat the saints. and the seahawks (who were a playoff team)

  22. franktherat96 says: Aug 10, 2011 6:50 PM

    let’s see how he does after everyone has a full year of film on him.

  23. chipwade says: Aug 10, 2011 6:55 PM

    It amazes me that Warren Sapp and Jerome Bettis get paid to speak on television.

  24. hobartbaker says: Aug 10, 2011 7:10 PM

    Everyone ready to write off Tebow, but he had better passing stats than Freeman as a rookie. More rushing yards and accounted for more scores, with less than half the playing time.

  25. bearfan51 says: Aug 10, 2011 7:17 PM

    Maybe the NFL’s new drug testing policy should include narcotics testing for TV analysts.

    Sapp must be high making those kind of statements…

  26. b1rdbath says: Aug 10, 2011 7:22 PM

    I think Freeman has that some ability to be MVP at somepoint. maybe give it a couple of years.

    the kid is sick and the Bucs are gonna be a threat in the NFC in the years to come

  27. buckbrennan says: Aug 10, 2011 7:28 PM

    love the sapp haters..guess what he knows more and is better than you when it comes to football thats why he earned the right to get paid..you dont like it then dont watch damn…and if it chaps your ass that much well you could have went to school to talk about sports for money too but guess what you didnt so shut up ya whiny babies

  28. jayslang says: Aug 10, 2011 7:29 PM

    Peyton 26TD 15INT 90.7 Rating
    Brady 18TD 12INT 86.5 Rating
    Freeman25TD 6INT 95.9 Rating

    Pretty good 2nd year numbers especially compared to the best in the businesss…

    Hard as a Tampa fan not to be excited…Let’s not forget Sapp is a little Biased…

    But Man am I looking forward to watching him play over the next decade…

  29. trbowman says: Aug 10, 2011 7:31 PM

    Warren Sapp is right.

    Josh Freeman is so damn underrated right now.

    Watch as the Bucs win that division.

  30. tv426 says: Aug 10, 2011 7:32 PM

    mississippibred says: Aug 10, 2011 6:46 PM

    o and we beat the saints. and the seahawks (who were a playoff team)
    ———————

    Yeah – after the Saints pulled their starters mid-way through the 1st quarter as Atl was winning their game and they had nothing to play for.

    Take that away and the wonderful 10-6 season was really 9-7 (which by Buc standards is wonderful).

  31. firedude7160 says: Aug 10, 2011 7:43 PM

    bucsarethebestteaminthenfc says:
    Aug 10, 2011 6:05 PM
    Best young QB in the league.

    —————————————–

    Really? I wouldn’t even say he is the best young QB in his division. That distinction would go to Matt Ryan

  32. childressrulz says: Aug 10, 2011 7:44 PM

    MVP that is laughable.

  33. milkmandanimal says: Aug 10, 2011 7:44 PM

    That team won three games in 2009, and a number of people picked them to have the worst record in the league last year. Instead, the Bucs won 10 games on a team utterly ripped by injuries and who had the youngest roster in the entire league. At the end of the year last year, they were starting TEN rookies. TEN.

    Freeman had a 15-1 TD-INT ratio in the last eight games last year. Five of the ten wins were fourth-quarter comebacks, including two within the last ten seconds (Cincy and St. Louis). The guy doesn’t get rattled, he’s clearly the team leader, and he’s got that intangible “something” good QBs need.

    Do I think Freeman will win the MVP? No. That being said, when Mike Sando at ESPN (one of the saner bloggers there) did his MVP rankings at the end of the year last year, he put Freeman #7. Yes, I’m a fan of the team, and I’ll admit to some homerism, but that also means I watched every snap last year, and if you have not watched this guy play, you have missed out.

    MVP “candidate”? Sure. He won’t win, no, but “candidate” means “good enough to at least be in the conversation”, and he pretty clearly has the talent for that.

  34. simplesimon1 says: Aug 10, 2011 7:52 PM

    Could be….The kid played great last year….But, lets just all play the game now and leave the talk at home….. Same with all my Lions fans….Win first, play great, then talk.

  35. mightyleemoon says: Aug 10, 2011 8:02 PM

    @tv426

    I just checked it out and the Bucs were up 17-7 when the Saints started pulling starters.

    I know you don’t want to give credit where credit is due, for whatever reason, but that’s a win against a winning team.

  36. brasho says: Aug 10, 2011 8:04 PM

    25 TDs, 6 INTs last season, as a 22 year old 1st year starter.

    15 TDs, 1 INT in his last 8 games. 95.9 rating… he blows away what other players did at the same experience level and age.

    He’s 23 years old, an age where most other QBs are either entering the NFL as rookies or beginning their redshirt senior seasons in college, how can you not think that the sky is the limit with this guy.

    Sure, he’s 6’6 250 lbs with a cannon for an arm, excellent mobility, and great pocket presence and accuracy… but it’s his work ethic that will make him elite.

  37. dkeyser says: Aug 10, 2011 8:18 PM

    I just checked it out and the Bucs were up 17-7 when the Saints started pulling starters.

    I know you don’t want to give credit where credit is due, for whatever reason, but that’s a win against a winning team
    ———————————————————-
    Perhaps you should check out week 6 and the 31-6 blowout the Saints put on the Bucs at home. Hows that for credit?

  38. haroldballsagna says: Aug 10, 2011 8:19 PM

    I know they were mocked, but as far as player organized workouts went no one worked harder than Josh Freeman and the young Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Hard work > talent, all day every day.

  39. CKL says: Aug 10, 2011 8:26 PM

    The kid doesn’t get much hype but aside from Rodgers he’s the best young QB in the NFL IMO.
    Let’s see what he can do in the playoffs. I’ve already have seen enough of Ryan and Flacco there to think that they are meh so far in the playoffs. I think Freeman has shown more clutch ability to date than either of those two.

    It’s too bad Sapp kind of took a swipe at Brad Johnson though. He was a very capable player. He was never a “WOW” guy like Freeman but your team could win with him.

  40. bucsmaniac says: Aug 10, 2011 8:47 PM

    Big 5 one of the best young QB in the game…and he has one of the best young WR to throw to…Mike Williams…going to be a great year!!!

  41. brasho says: Aug 10, 2011 8:50 PM

    cheesewhiz12 says:
    Aug 10, 2011 6:15 PM
    bucsarethebestteaminthenfc says:
    Aug 10, 2011 6:05 PM
    Best young QB in the league.

    Really? Ya Aaron Rodgers didn’t just win superbowl MVP, you’re right.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Hey dumbass! He said, “Best young QB in the league.” Rodgers turns 28 this season. At what point do you stop considering a guy young? 41… if that’s the case there’s a young man in Hattiesburg that still has some zip in his arm.

    Freeman is 23, an age where most QBs his age haven’t thrown their first pass in the NFL and yet he’s coming off a season that most QBs don’t have during their entire career. Considering Rodgers didn’t even start his first game until he was 24, I’m pretty sure Freeman is far ahead of where Rodgers was at the same age.

  42. bucwild05 says: Aug 10, 2011 9:26 PM

    I laugh at you Buc Haters. I have saved this blog to put it out later…. If Freeman was on the Jets, Patriots, Cowboys, or Giants, you would be saying how great he is. His numbers do not lie. Plain and simple.

    I put this stat out one other time: only two players in the history of the NFL have thrown 6 or less interceptions in their 2nd year with at least 200 attempts. Freeman, and Dan Marino (you may have heard of him.)

    Freeman made a team out of practicly nothing. All skilled positions on offense last year were rookies, Williams (wr), Benn(wr) who was injured a lot, and Blount(rb) who was an undrafted free agent. He did a helluva job last year!

    With a year of experience working with these players, how good will he be??? I can’t wait to see.

    Why do you think the Bucs didn’t go after any F.A.’S this year…. The don’t need them.

    As for you dumba$$es that say they had a week schedule, it shows your stupidity… Saints and Falcons played the same teams last year. The Saints had a whole 1 more win. WOW! Holy cow! Whoooooopie!

    How far did the Falcons get in the play offs? Oh, yeah, lost against a wild card 10-6 team.

    Everyone can come up with stats to make them right, however, it is plain and simple… Freeman is a leader, and he wins games. He will lead the Bucs to wins this year.

  43. imasturbate says: Aug 10, 2011 9:27 PM

    Let’s see…so Freeman is going to beat out Brady, Brees, Manning, Vick, Rodgers, Romo, Rothlisburger, Eli Manning, Schaub, Ryan and running backs Peterson, MJD, Foster, Rice, Charles, and wide receivers Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Fitzgerald…can go on and on. Not saying the kids not a good player but we are talking about the entire league. Sapp shouldn’t be allowed near a camera…he is a joke.

  44. majorseahawk says: Aug 10, 2011 9:37 PM

    The most overrated QB from last year. Let me know when he beats a team above .500. And the Saints don’t count, they had clinched already and they threw it cause it didn’t matter if they lost or not.

  45. maddogwhite says: Aug 10, 2011 9:45 PM

    Before anyone gets carried away with Freeman, I watched him play against a superlative defense in the Pittsburgh Steelers last season and they schooled him so bad he was yanked and benched in the second half. Let him do this consistenly against the solid above 500 defenses — those that study a qb’s tendencies and exploit them – -before you put this guy in with the top tier qbs.

    The Bucs won’t be sneaking up on anyone this year. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if both he and the team regress this year. Don’t expect Freeman to replicate those numbers with a year’s worth of game film on the him.

  46. dkeyser says: Aug 10, 2011 10:15 PM

    and nobody will get to see the MVP performance because all the games will be blacked out

  47. jaimelh02 says: Aug 10, 2011 10:15 PM

    Anything that comes out of Sapps’ mouth is garbage!!! He’s a Tampa Bay Homer of course he’s going to be on Freeman’s nutts, especially since Josh is black too

  48. mississippibred says: Aug 10, 2011 10:29 PM

    better numbers than Matt Ryan AND Drew Brees last year, against the same opponents his team lost against the falcons but we are talking about a player not a team.

    freeman had the best numbers in the NFC south last year (and all faced the easy nfc west)

    oh, and ill say again better numbers than Peyton Schaub or Flacco as well. in his second year throwing to rookies.

    keep downing him haha

  49. brasho says: Aug 10, 2011 10:32 PM

    tv426 says:
    Aug 10, 2011 7:32 PM
    mississippibred says: Aug 10, 2011 6:46 PM

    o and we beat the saints. and the seahawks (who were a playoff team)
    ———————

    Yeah – after the Saints pulled their starters mid-way through the 1st quarter as Atl was winning their game and they had nothing to play for.

    Take that away and the wonderful 10-6 season was really 9-7 (which by Buc standards is wonderful).

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Uh, no, moron. The Saints pulled their starters halfway through the 4th quarter, when they were already down by 10 and Atlanta finally took charge against Carolina. The Bucs kicked the crap out of the Saints that week. Call it what you want, they beat a team with a winning record, any debate about this topic shows your lack of football acumen (which you’ve already demonstrated).

    Hate the Bucs and put them down while you can, because starting this season you’ll be staring up at them in the standings for the next 10 years.

  50. nyjalleffingday says: Aug 10, 2011 11:04 PM

    The Bucs had an easy schedule last year. What I’ve seen of Freeman has been impressive, but let’s see how he handles some nastier teams + playoff games before we crown the kid King. He’s just too young to judge.

  51. sfkforever says: Aug 10, 2011 11:10 PM

    i am “all in”….lol

  52. footballfan80 says: Aug 10, 2011 11:13 PM

    zinn22 :

    I am astonished that a jets fan would say they would rather have Freeman. How the heck would the jets be two time defending champs with Freeman? It is almost physically impossible to play as well as Sanchez has in his 6 playoff games in the first 2 years of his career. 9 TD’s, 3 int’s 60 completion %, and a 94+ QB rating which happens to be 5th best for a QB in NFL playoff history! (which happens to be better than Brady or Manning). You cant put up those types of numbers and have people say they won those playoff games in spite of Sanchez.

    Freeman is a better QB in the regular season but what the heck does that count for? He has yet to play in a big game, and who knows if he could even handle and not buckle under the pressure playing in the biggest market, especially coming from a much smaller school than Sanchez. Sanchez is extremely inconsistent but he plays the biggest in the biggest games, especially outperforming super bowl winning qb’s in the playoffs the last 2 years including Brady, Manning in 1 out of the 2 games, Rivers (hasnt won a SB put a pretty dam good QB), and Roethlisberger.

    Freeman is a very good young QB no doubt, and does more with a lot less considering Sanchez has a lot more weapons. Freeman had a good year last year for sure, but if you go game by game he does not impress me at all when he plays against above average defenses. Every single game last year against an above average defense Freeman either played poorly or about average, with the exception of week 17 against the Saints when neither the Bucs or Saints had much to play for. I am not just throwing that out there, you can go check his stats game by game and see the dropoff when he plays a decent defense.

  53. opie333 says: Aug 11, 2011 1:54 AM

    Sapp needs to stick with what he knows and it isn’t QB’s! The more I listen to this guy on NFL network the stupider he gets! Jamie Dukes is twice as smart as Sapp!

  54. bucwild05 says: Aug 11, 2011 2:15 AM

    Someone had a good point, this is about Freeman, not the Bucs. Freeman is a leader, no one can deny that that watches him.

    He took the entire off season prior to last season to improve his game, which he obviosly took to heart and put out a great season throwing to rookies.

    I repeat, if he played foe a more popular team, you would be sick of how many times they talk about him.

    As for the guy that gave all the examples of who would be a better canidate than Freeman. I had to stop reading when you said Romo! Really???? He couldn’t even hold a snap for a kick to go to the super bowl! Hahahah!
    Brady- good competition
    Brees- good competition
    Manning- too old, you’ll see this year, he’s out of his prime
    Vick- same division, and played all the same teams that Freeman faced, who had the better stats with WAY LESS weapons.
    Rodgers – good competion
    Romo- hahahahahahahahha.
    Rothlisburger, not in the same ballpark anymore, he will lead the league in int’s, unless he gets suspended again (great leader there)
    Eli Manning- really? One great year, and you’re in love with him? Howd he do last year again?
    Schaub- really?
    Ryan- I look forward to this matchup
    Peterson- never gonna happen
    MJD- you wasted your time typing these 3 letters
    Foster- he had a great season, but will never ammount for NFL MVP
    Rice- you’re really reaching here
    Charles- wow, now you’re desparate
    wide receivers Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Fitzgerald- for MVP? Really??? This isn’t Fantasy football, this is MVP moron!

    Okay, my fingers are hurting from typing.

  55. mississippibred says: Aug 11, 2011 3:21 AM

    better passer than brees ore ryan against the same opponents enough said

    oh and throwing to a gimpy k2 and a couple of rooks.

    so that should shut up all the ‘it was your easy schedule’ nuts.

    we had a tougher schedule than the colts … and Freeman threw for better numbers than peyton (for just one year doesnt put him on “manning” level, but pretty amazing for a second year QB and neither were throwing to big name recievers so stop whining about his injuries)

    so give him some cred in year 2 he is playing better than ryan in year 3. The bucs are just waiting for the rest of the team to catch up.

  56. mississippibred says: Aug 11, 2011 3:23 AM

    better passer than brees ore ryan against the same opponents enough said

    oh and throwing to a gimpy k2 and a couple of rooks.

    so that should shut up all the ‘it was your easy schedule’ nuts.

    we had a tougher schedule than the colts … and Freeman threw for better numbers than peyton (for just one year doesnt put him on “manning” level, but pretty amazing for a second year QB and neither were throwing to big name recievers so stop whining about his injuries)

    so give him some cred in year 2 he is playing better than ryan in year 3. The bucs are just waiting for the rest of the team to catch up.

  57. tbmvp03 says: Aug 11, 2011 4:44 AM

    Well for one thing, having a better quarterback in the regular season could have earned the Jets a division title and an easier trip the big dance. People use the Bucs schedule against Freeman but they fail to look at the big picture. The Jets beating up on bottom feeders is expected because they’re a highly talented, veteran-laden team. The Bucs had the youngest roster in all of football and were expected to be in dogfights against bad teams and lose (sometimes badly) to good teams. SI (not that they’re ever accurate) forcasted two wins for Tampa. The absolute number one reason they won ten games was because of what they got from Freeman’s arm and legs. Let’s not forget that they were a bad call in the Detroit game (a call the league apologized for) from winning 11 games and making the playoffs. All of this with rookie receivers and an undrafted rookie running back. I can only imagine what this kid would have done with Sanchez’s roster. He’s got a better arm, better size, he’s a better runner, he was far more accurate, he’s at least as hard a worker as Sanchez…I’m not going to hold the fact that Sanchez was drafted into a far better situation against Freeman. The Bucs win 5 or 6 games with Sanchez last season, tops.

  58. torturedraiderfan says: Aug 11, 2011 7:03 AM

    Freeman has talent, but let’s not get carried away…….MVP is a pretty big expectation………I can’t believe people actually listen to Sapp…..big, fat, sloppy, blowhard, jacka$$, moron…and those are the nicest things I can say about him.

  59. tv426 says: Aug 11, 2011 8:35 AM

    mightyleemoon says: Aug 10, 2011 8:02 PM

    @tv426

    I just checked it out and the Bucs were up 17-7 when the Saints started pulling starters.

    I know you don’t want to give credit where credit is due, for whatever reason, but that’s a win against a winning team.

    Check the number of starting players the Saints sat BEFORE the game began. About the only starter of note on the field at kickoff was Brees.

  60. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins says: Aug 11, 2011 5:49 PM

    lol, so many ignorant people in here it’s mindblowing. Let me break it down for a few people real quick.

    For the Seahawks homer: 21-26, 237 yards, 5 TD, 144.2 passer rating. Get mad, and maybe get a defense while you’re at it.

    For the Jets homer: Your starting QB had worse regular season numbers than Alex Smith. Deal with it.

    For the Saints homer who keeps desperately trying to prove that his team didn’t really care: They did. The only guys that were sat before the game were sat for good reason; injuries. And speaking of injuries, if the Saints really didn’t care about the game they would have immediately pulled everyone after Blount murdered Malcolm Jenkins and knocked him into next season. Or perhaps after Chris Ivory injured himself. You’d think 2 major injuries to your starters would be enough to pull the rest of your starters if your team simply didn’t care…but they did care, because the division was still in reach at the time as it took the Falcons a while to completely pull away. Not to mention the fact that you always try to knock your division rivals out of the playoffs whenever you get the chance.

    As for everyone else who’s saying HURR DERP EASY SCHEDULE LOL, the Saints and Falcons played the exact same schedule aside from 2 teams, and in the Saints case those 2 teams sucked anyways(Vikings, Cowboys). The Chiefs also went to the playoffs without beating a single winning team. A couple people criticized the Chiefs for that, but NO ONE mentioned the Saints or Falcons playing a mediocre schedule…and that’s because the argument is only used because the Bucs had a good season, no one knew why, and so rather than actually researching the reasons for their improvement they simply piggybacked an invalid argument they heard from ESPN.

    Furthermore, the people complementing Freeman leading an offense with a rookie WR and RB are right, but they didn’t go far enough. What was truly most impressive of all was the fact that he played behind the 2nd worst o-line in football. This line consisted of Penn(solid), Hardman(undrafted rookie), Zuttah(backup G forced to play C), Larsen(6th round rookie picked from the Pats waivers), and Lee(undrafted 3rd year backup). The line was completely decimated with injuries.

    Oh, and last year Freeman was still learning a lot and struggling during training camp. This year he’s lightyears ahead of that, looking like the same QB that shredded the Seahawks and Saints late in the season. Prepare your anus, NFL.

  61. footballfan80 says: Aug 11, 2011 10:38 PM

    tbmvp03:

    All I need to know about Freeman is that hes a below average quarterback when he plays even a semi-good defense. I watched him crap the bed against the Steelers defense.

    Sanchez was great in both games against the Steelers top ranked defense, was lights out against the Bears defense, and beat Bellichick’s defense in the playoffs on the road in a playoff game. The Patriots defense despite their troubles last year, are coached by Bellichick and were among the league leaders in takeaways. Come talk to me when Freeman has his first good game against a good defense.

    Whats all this love from the Bucs fans on this board? 2 games away from being 11-5? A lot of teams were a couple of plays away from being 16-6 but hey crap happens.

    Yes, Freeman is good, but lets not jump the gun on him before he plays well both in meaningful games and against good defenses.

    Although Raheem Morris was pretty funny last year with his best team in the NFC comment. If by NFC he meant NFC South and by best he meant 3rd best then he would probably be right!

  62. bucwild05 says: Aug 12, 2011 12:01 AM

    @footballfan80

    Before you open your mouth, you may want to check your stats, and do your homework, I just did, so now I will now prove you wrong.

    Okay, here we go: freeman was ranked 6 last year, behind names like Manning and Manning, Ryan, Brees,McNabb, Favre, and way above your beloved Sanchez.

    As for that topped ranked Defense of the Steelers, they were ranked 31 out of 32 teams for yards against (what the NFL considers ranked. As for them tearing Freeman up, 1 interception doesn’t classify that, and it was his third game of the season.

    Freeman faced and beat the Redskins (ranked 2) Cardinals(4), Browns(11) and 7 other teams.

    He threw 5 touchdowns and no picks against the #6 ranked Defense playoff team (Seahawks).

    A few of his losses were close, 4 points and 6 points in the 2 games against the 13-3 Falcons, 7 against the Ravens.

    As for him now winning meaningful game…. ALL 16 are meaningful.

    Let’s keep in mind…. Freeman is going into his 3rd year… He had a helluva year in his 1st Season as a starter. He had a beat up, pu together offensive line. Most of all the starters on the team were rookies, or within a year or 2 of being in the league.

    His 1 and 2 receivers were Rookies, and so was his un-drafted Free-agent RB.

    Sooooooo, say what you will, and dog Sapp all you want for saying what he did, but, if Freeman was that good in year 2, and with his team healthy and more experienced, I have NEVER in my 20 years of being a Bucs fan been more excited to the start of a season.

    You doubters will be silenced at the end of the year.

  63. mississippibred says: Aug 12, 2011 12:55 PM

    best qb in our division of any age (at least last year he was)

  64. bucsballer says: Aug 16, 2011 11:11 AM

    everyone sitting back saying how good matty ice is…….. are u kidding me. ur right is season stats r amazing. But ive seen year after year now he couldnt win a playoff game if he got to play a college team. Hes not “matty ice” try matty choke. O and for the guy who put flacco as a better qb. do u watch football? that D makes flacco look good. id look good too if i could start my opposing teams 20 everytime. How bout u watch Freeman before u start to try and list players off

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