Comments on: What we learned during first preseason games http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Sat, 18 May 2013 21:05:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: treworld http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1196368 Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:07:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1196368 We’ve learned that Kevin Kolb sucks and the Cardinals made a major mistake of giving him that big $60 million contract! I feel bad for Larry Fitz.

]]> By: flybono24 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1193859 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 06:12:14 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1193859 Janikowski likes the new kickoff spot! He kicked it through the uprights on the opening kickoff…

]]> By: dhawk12 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1193407 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:34:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1193407 That is like saying Matt Hasselbeck learned behind Super Bowl Winning Trent Dilfer. They shared games for a season but Johnson was terrible. I think his QB rating was barely above Favre’s age…

]]> By: axespray http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1193206 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:42:26 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1193206 Jamie Dukes continues yappin’ about how Brady is the best and no one is on his level, yet his back ups are capable of putting up 40 plus points….

Can Peyton Manning’s 1st round WRs put 40 plus points with Manning’s backups?

]]> By: bozosforall http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1193046 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 21:11:46 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1193046 dhawk12 says:
Aug 12, 2011 3:41 PM
hawkjuice says:
Aug 12, 2011 10:25 AM
T jack goes out for 2 drives, loses his LT and everyone is up his a$$ about sucking. Are you serious? I love fans that watch espn and then come on here to repeat everything they heard.

Oh BTW T Jack ain’t a savior he’s a band aid.
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Exactly…he had no time and no open targets. I wonder how many of these people realize Seattle’s top three WRs were out of the lineup?

It is hard to argue that TJack is going to be a good QB but he will be given a chance to show if he learned something watching Favre the last two years. After all..it isn’t like he ever had a QB he could learn from before that.

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Didn’t he also have Super Bowl-winning QB Brad Johnson to learn from before Favre? Not sure about that but I think so.

]]> By: randyratio http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192981 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:32:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192981 Yes Vick sure did pick up where he left off. So did T-Jack Completing 5 passes for 15 yards. Yep, I’d say T-Jack also picked up where he left off too. Good thing he’s familiar with that system…

]]> By: rayrsatx http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192900 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:46:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192900 You guys do realize this is only a lousy pre season game in that the primary objective is to analyze marginal players for the remaining roster once the first string is established. Second, the performance on the field is not necessarily indicative of further performance one way or the other! In other words, much like my descriptive narrative; you guys take this too seriously!

]]> By: mediasloppy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192899 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:46:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192899 Talking junk about anyone during preseason, moreover the lack of practice time and it being the first game is talking out their butt.

]]> By: dhawk12 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192885 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:41:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192885 hawkjuice says:
Aug 12, 2011 10:25 AM
T jack goes out for 2 drives, loses his LT and everyone is up his a$$ about sucking. Are you serious? I love fans that watch espn and then come on here to repeat everything they heard.

Oh BTW T Jack ain’t a savior he’s a band aid.
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Exactly…he had no time and no open targets. I wonder how many of these people realize Seattle’s top three WRs were out of the lineup?

It is hard to argue that TJack is going to be a good QB but he will be given a chance to show if he learned something watching Favre the last two years. After all..it isn’t like he ever had a QB he could learn from before that.

]]> By: johnthehillboy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192841 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:25:05 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192841 What we learned is that PFT will continue to be biased against west coast teams in their coverage. On the west coast the Chargers/Seahawks game was the televised 5 o’clock game on ESPN.

What has PFT posted about the Chargers up to this point?

1) An update that there were two touchbacks in the game.

2) One sentence in this post, “3. Chargers running back Ryan Mathews was healthy enough to play, which is a step in the right direction.”

3) That PFT is so biased that they couldn’t even find one article about said game to have a post about the Chargers in their Friday Morning One-Liners.

I get that you east coast writers are blinded to your bigotry but I can’t believe NBC, for purely profit reasons, allows this to happen.

Shame on all of you to treat NFL fans like this.

]]> By: erjaq http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192682 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 18:28:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192682 “2. New Seahawks quarterback Tarvaris Jackson has some work to do. Five pass attempts, 15 yards, two sacks, and two scrambles.”

As a Vikings fan, I can assure you that T-Jack has no work left to do — he’s already in mid-season form.

]]> By: Deb http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192658 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 18:14:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192658 Breaking for lunch and have the Ravens game on now. Can’t believe how weird it is to see the Ravens without Heap. Didn’t really think about the impact he made until he wasn’t there. But he replacement looked good.

Hate the new kick rule, but the Chargers’ kick return inspite of it was beautiful. Woo-hoo!

]]> By: jebdamone http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192643 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 18:07:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192643 T-Joke T-Joke he’s our man, if he can’t do it…………….Maybe Josh Portis can???

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i tell you what, he may have been going against 3rd stringers but that kid josh portis looked very good. i was impressed with his elusiveness, his decision making, his process of reading the coverage and obviously his immense athleticism. kid made some very nice throws in tight spots, but also made throws that showed he knew the coverage and hit receivers right out of their breaks.

]]> By: 28purple4mvp http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192564 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:38:22 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192564 Phantom-Your comments rock keep them coming. Much love for the PURPLE

]]> By: wicky888 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192531 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:30:55 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192531 The answer to the headline of this article ….. NOTHING. Even during a normal offseason, all 4 preseason games mean nothing. And the most meaningless preseason game is the first one, which is meant to evaluate 3rd and 4th string players. You cant learn anything from 2 series. Especially after 2 weeks of camp, and even less for the free agents.

]]> By: hawkfan50 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192514 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:28:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192514 Tarvaris Jackson has had one week of practice with a new team and neither one of his starting receivers even played ; Sidney Rice and Mike Williams sat . Chill people .

Sheesh … Vikings fans . Ya give ‘em a Pro Bowl left guard and they still hate on ya .

]]> By: mwcarolina http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192471 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:15:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192471 First off, if the patroits are going to trade one of those two QBs, i think Mallett is the one to go. i think teams will worry about trading for Hoyer, but Mallett’s height and potential are too much, i am still shocked that Washington passed on him in the draft and i thought he would be a good fit (accept for his mobility) in Shanahan’s offense. i think Miami should attempt to trade for Mallett IF they want him too, but i think Mallett and Hoyer both remain patroits until they are free agents, i just dont know if a team wants to trade for them. i havent really heard interest in them yet, but maybe it’s too early.

]]> By: rugdog100 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192467 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:10:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192467 “Tarvaris Jackson has some work to do.” Um, yah, no kidding… but that’s the same thing that people have said every year about him. Remember, if Carroll benches him for Whitehurst, that means the Seahawks are “jerking him around”… right?

]]> By: We'reFineThere http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192433 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:55:29 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192433 the Cowboys still have linebackers at Safety

]]> By: mogogo1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192397 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:42:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192397 Tebow is a lot of fun to watch. But that unpredictability is bound to give his coaches ulcers. And how that would turn out in real games versus first team defenses who have game planned for him is a big question mark.

And in a league with so many ho-hum QBs, it’s hard to believe Brady Quinn isn’t going to get a second chance somewhere. Not saying he’s a lock to succeed, but one season with a horrible Cleveland team doesn’t seem like enough to completely write him off.

]]> By: Move Them Chains http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192305 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:56:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192305 trickbunny says:
Aug 12, 2011 11:35 AM
Ravens looked horrible and rusty. Flacco managed 3 points (barely- that FG squeaked in off the upright- so he came close to doing just about nothing) The receivers were non-existent. Ray Rice had a good run or two, but was mostly ineffective. Ray Lewis looked old and got punked on Celek’s TD…and Tyrod Taylor? Awful. Kid looked panicked, confused, and threw 3 INTs- don’t bother telling me it was 2, because he DID throw a 3rd one into the hands of a defender, who just happened to barely miss getting one of his feet down. Many other times, that would have been an INT, so we might as well count it

I know it’s preseason, it doesn’t mean anything, etc.- but my God, they better hope that was just first game jitters. You know, the kind that the *real* elite teams like the Patriots *didn’t* have yesterday.

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First off, The starters played two series…TWO! The receivers are rookies going against probably the best secondary in the NFL. What more would you expect? They have had 2-weeks of NFL practice and you want to draw conclusions already? Also, Celek scored on Jameel McClain NOT Ray Lewis…get your facts straight before you make an idiotic homer post.

I wouldn’t expect any team to be firing on all cylinders until week 4, especially those with a lot of rookie starters like the Ravens.

]]> By: tebowsgonnagitya http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192294 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:51:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192294 I learned that Merle Hodge is developmentally disabled.

]]> By: dissapointmentprone http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192289 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:49:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192289 RE Tjacks play: So what you’re saying is he’s already in mid-season form?

]]> By: cheapseater http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192272 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:43:04 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192272 The Jags WR situation is not great, but is not dire. We have MJD at RB, Marcedes at TE, a good #2 (Mike Thomas), just acquired a good slot guy (unless Cecil Shorts is a dud in a real game). We have two unproven guys that need a chance. I think we would have gotten a WR in Rd. 2 this year, but we gave it up for Blaine. FA is not the place to find your #1. We will draft a guy if it makes sense next year. But, we sure could use him this year…

]]> By: trickbunny http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192256 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:35:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192256 Ravens looked horrible and rusty. Flacco managed 3 points (barely- that FG squeaked in off the upright- so he came close to doing just about nothing) The receivers were non-existent. Ray Rice had a good run or two, but was mostly ineffective. Ray Lewis looked old and got punked on Celek’s TD…and Tyrod Taylor? Awful. Kid looked panicked, confused, and threw 3 INTs- don’t bother telling me it was 2, because he DID throw a 3rd one into the hands of a defender, who just happened to barely miss getting one of his feet down. Many other times, that would have been an INT, so we might as well count it :)

I know it’s preseason, it doesn’t mean anything, etc.- but my God, they better hope that was just first game jitters. You know, the kind that the *real* elite teams like the Patriots *didn’t* have yesterday.

]]> By: sojumaster http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192255 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:34:43 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192255 wryly1 says:Aug 12, 2011 10:32 AM

Learned a long, long time ago not to get sucked into placing much significance on preseason exhibitions games, especially the first one – but remain dubious about the Cowboys and Ravens. There just isn’t anything tangible to suggest either will be even as good as last year, let alone better.
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The Cowboys got rid of Wade Phillips. That alone will make the Cowboys a better team.

]]> By: pacificnw7722 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192238 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:24:52 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192238 T-Joke T-Joke he’s our man, if he can’t do it…………….Maybe Josh Portis can???

]]> By: phillyphever http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192232 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:23:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192232 At this point, I rather have Kafta than Young backing up Vick. Young looked like a peewee QB out there.

]]> By: Keyser Söze http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192225 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:21:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192225 1. Kevin Kolb was steady in his Cardinals debut.
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If by steady you mean he didn’t stink it up then yes, he was steady. 1 run for a first down and two good throws to Fitz was about all he got against the Raiders first defense…

]]> By: gnorules http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/12/what-we-learned-during-first-preseason-games/#comment-1192216 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:13:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=146894#comment-1192216 Baltimore has to be concerned with rookie Tyrod Taylor’s status as the team’s backup quarterback. He helped put up 3 points in three quarters of action.
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Ok seriously… they’re banging on Tyrod after his first preseason game ever… after two whole weeks of training camp. Yeah he threw two picks but otherwise he looked pretty decent, especially for being on a team focused on running and defense. I’m actually an Eagles fan and a Hokie alum (so I’m kinda biased), but he didn’t play all that bad for a game that doesn’t matter.

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