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Gregg Williams does not hold back in preseason opener

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Perhaps Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams was annoyed that the 49ers didn’t consider him for a head coaching job.

Whatever the motivation, Williams treated Week One of the preseason like it was Week One of the regular season.  And the familiar-looking 49ers offense had no answer for New Orleans’ improved (on paper) defense.

Williams called 18 blitzes in the first half alone, resulting in five sacks and two forced fumbles against the 49ers starting offensive line. Safety Roman Harper and defensive end Will Smith both made big impacts early.

“Trust me, it surprised me, too, some of the calls he made early,” safety Roman Harper told the New Orleans Times-Picayune. “I enjoyed it. It definitely speeds up the process of the quarterback.”

The Saints won 24-3 on the strength on defense, running, special teams, and their deep reserves.  Perhaps Williams wanted to send a message this Saints team has a different identity.

One thing worth remembering for any player getting killed off one preseason game: Drew Brees didn’t have a first down in three drives.  These games only tell us so much.

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  1. goawayeverybody says: Aug 13, 2011 9:32 AM

    Thanks Gregg! Who Dat!

  2. melonnhead says: Aug 13, 2011 9:34 AM

    Maybe somebody will return the favor.

  3. rayvens says: Aug 13, 2011 9:36 AM

    All you 49er fans that think Alex Smith can be a legit QB …UR OUT OF YOUR MIND!….For the past 5yrs yall have blamed the Coaches, Coordinators, WR’s, O-Line and so on…but thru all that one thing still resides “ALEX SMITH!”..HE SUCKS! The first step to resolving a problem is admitting you have a problem!…And please stop whining about Williams was blitzing like it was the playoffs…U don’t like the blitz than beat it!!!

  4. wherezwaldo says: Aug 13, 2011 9:38 AM

    Suck the Faints.

  5. 3octaveFart says: Aug 13, 2011 9:39 AM

    “Drew Brees didn’t have a first down in three drives. ”

    If your defense can score five sacks and two forced fumbles in one half, you won’t need many.

  6. c1d7 says: Aug 13, 2011 9:41 AM

    I guess Gregg Williams forgot it was preseason and not the playoffs, because his defense always shows up and plays like that in the playoffs especially against a 7-9 Seahawks team…

  7. savvyprinter says: Aug 13, 2011 9:41 AM

    Nice message to send

  8. edukator4 says: Aug 13, 2011 9:48 AM

    why should he. this is football, if your team isnt prepared physically or mentally too bad. williams job is to get HIS team ready for the season, not the 49ers

  9. ninerboi says: Aug 13, 2011 9:50 AM

    Thats ok Niners, Keep working….I have faith in you…besides, I’m used to it. I was in high school the last time we were in the playoffs….and I’m 26 now…

  10. fedupsaintsfan says: Aug 13, 2011 9:51 AM

    Love dem Saints!!!

  11. mrvikingsfan11 says: Aug 13, 2011 9:52 AM

    This is true it is only preseason even though brees and the boys did practice all summer long lol

  12. therealsmiley says: Aug 13, 2011 9:53 AM

    Why should he hold back? You have to work on blitzes too. Hail!

  13. gdeli says: Aug 13, 2011 10:03 AM

    makes me fel ike the vikes defense is a sittin’ duck. uh I don’t trust donovan or ponder. will I?

  14. sonoco says: Aug 13, 2011 10:08 AM

    Harbaugh will file this away in the memory bank. Sometime in the future I can picture Sean Payton asking Harbaugh at mid-field . . . “What’s your deal?”

  15. dgforreal says: Aug 13, 2011 10:10 AM

    defensive end Will Smith both made big impacts early.

    Welcome to Earh!!

  16. dramah says: Aug 13, 2011 10:11 AM

    It’s preseason…

  17. tatum064 says: Aug 13, 2011 10:16 AM

    c1d7 says:
    Aug 13, 2011 9:41 AM
    I guess Gregg Williams forgot it was preseason and not the playoffs, because his defense always shows up and plays like that in the playoffs especially against a 7-9 Seahawks team…
    ==========================
    that was a fluke…one fluky run by Marshawn Lynch. The Saints shouldve won that. Seattle has no answer at QB and will pay for not addressing the position – Tavaris Jackson?! WTF?!

  18. mdd913 says: Aug 13, 2011 10:17 AM

    Why should he hold back? What is this, a weekend rec league? The Saints have a realistic goal to win the Super Bowl. Why should they not take every opportunity to hone their game?

  19. pacificnw7722 says: Aug 13, 2011 10:17 AM

    “Perhaps Williams wanted to send a message this Saints team has a different identity.”

    Sounds like that message came through “crystal clear.”

    Just ask Alex Smith!

  20. nickster2k says: Aug 13, 2011 10:18 AM

    “Perhaps Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams was annoyed that the 49ers didn’t consider him for a head coaching job.”

    He was probably more annoyed by their historically bad performance against a 7 – 9 team in the playoffs last year.

  21. 49ersmang says: Aug 13, 2011 10:20 AM

    The Saints are bitter about their playoff embarrassing loss to the NFC west, otherwise why would they risk injury and play in such a classless aggressive manner… Booooo !!!

  22. philwauke says: Aug 13, 2011 10:20 AM

    Que all of the crybabies that thinks they tackled them to mean. It’s football, shortened offseason and you have to get ready.

  23. blackgold4life says: Aug 13, 2011 10:23 AM

    Great game saints.! Let’s make it 2 dat
    this year.

  24. saintxliv says: Aug 13, 2011 10:39 AM

    Williams’ job is to get his defense ready, not have sympathy for the 49ers. Watch them practice… they are aggressive against their own offense. He’s getting his players in an aggressive mindset. Never thought I’d see people whining about a defense playing hard!

  25. melonnhead says: Aug 13, 2011 10:42 AM

    that was a fluke…one fluky run by Marshawn Lynch. The Saints shouldve won that.

    ————————————————————

    Didn’t they go into the 4th quarter down 34-20?

  26. philwauke says: Aug 13, 2011 10:46 AM

    49ersmang says:
    Aug 13, 2011 10:20 AM
    The Saints are bitter about their playoff embarrassing loss to the NFC west, otherwise why would they risk injury and play in such a classless aggressive manner… Booooo !!!
    —————————————————-
    Which is code for your team is Playing for Andrew Luck. crybaby.

  27. 8whodat8 says: Aug 13, 2011 10:55 AM

    49ersmang, last year was last year. Classless aggresive? Risk injury? Everything they do, they risk being injured. Quit being soft and sensitive. Its football and its violent. People get hurt. Deal with it.

    Yeah we lost to a 7-9 team in the playoffs, but that 7-9 record was good enough to take your division. Lol. We will bounce back and be contenders again, but what do you have to say about your team? Hell, have your fans are already looking forward to next year’s draft after 1 preseason game.

  28. trickybastard says: Aug 13, 2011 11:01 AM

    Alex Smith is still on the team so people won’t think he is a BUST when they should have drafted Aaron Rodgers

    Oh no the blitzing!!!! :(

    WHINER Fans face it your team sucks

  29. pmm0455 says: Aug 13, 2011 11:19 AM

    Thats what the rest of the scubs we play this year have to look forward to. WHO DAT!! blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz blitz

  30. mdd913 says: Aug 13, 2011 11:19 AM

    The Saints are bitter about their playoff embarrassing loss to the NFC west, otherwise why would they risk injury and play in such a classless aggressive manner… Booooo !!!

    ————————————————–

    This has to be in the running for most pathetic comment of the day so far. First off, you’re taking credit for your 9ers for something the SEAHAWKS did and then crowing about it like the entire NFC West went out and beat the defending champs. I won’t even get into how pitiful your comments about “aggressive” play. Maybe you should go watch figure skating or something.

  31. surly1n1nd1anapol1s says: Aug 13, 2011 11:26 AM

    Why would teams recycle Williams as a head coach? Been there, done that, and it wasn’t good. He’s clearly a great defensive coordinator.

  32. mikemcsaint says: Aug 13, 2011 11:29 AM

    It’s amazing, the number of fans who forget this is TACKLE football. This is just like the Viking fans two years ago, pissing and moaning because the Saints D hit Favre too hard. Preseas0n is for teams to practice what they’ll do during the season. Greg Williams’ defenses have always blitzed so that’s what they practice in the preseason. Maybe 49er and Viking fans should start watching the Lingerie League. I think their teams might actually win a championship in that league. Panzie’s!!!

  33. nineroutsider says: Aug 13, 2011 11:31 AM

    I was happy that the Saints sent pressure early and often and really exposed our O-line. It was an embarrassing performance for the Niners O-line, but this kind of pressure in a preseason is really helpful…they can learn from it. I don’t have a problem with it at all…they can work on it the rest of camp.

    I hope our next opponent does the same thing and we pick up those blitzes and beat them…that is the only way to stop them from coming.

  34. hailvictory44 says: Aug 13, 2011 11:32 AM

    Greg Williams = overrated

  35. raikarr says: Aug 13, 2011 11:44 AM

    Hah, the Saints are classless for playing football full go? This is becoming a pathetic league indeed if that’s all it takes to be classless.

    What about those 49ers players who were making hits out of bounds and tackling at the knees? They’re super classy, right?

  36. edukator4 says: Aug 13, 2011 11:45 AM

    classless aggressive manner? for cripes sakes do you hear yourself? must have typed in the wrong address when trying to get to proballettalk.com

  37. cwmorga says: Aug 13, 2011 11:53 AM

    Blitzing is a staple of Gregg Williams D. Why would he not blitz? This is dress rehearsals, right?

    And the Niners fans shouldn’t cry. Don’t they want their offense face pressure prior to week 1?

  38. hitit49 says: Aug 13, 2011 12:00 PM

    The 49ers needed this treatment and will get better, Greg Williams did them a favor. He also did the teams within his own division a favor. Thanks for the film Greg. 18 first half blitz packages to view, nice

  39. trollhammer20 says: Aug 13, 2011 12:09 PM

    The last time the Saints were on the field, their defense was emasculated by a 7-9 team in an elimination game.

    Some clown said it was the Lynch run….BS. Seattle scored 41 offensive points, far more than they had scored at any other time during the year. Matt Hasselbeck looked like he did in 2005. They had next to no pressure on the QB, and their safeties played awful the entire game.

    The Lynch run was largely the result of a tired defense trying to strip the ball from a guy you simply can’t arm tackle. The reason they were tired is that the Seattle offense had worked them for the entire game.

  40. juliusanonymous says: Aug 13, 2011 12:23 PM

    Beast Mode did to Roman Harper what Ben Roethlisberger does to drunk underage college girls. But Lynch didn’t need any help from the cops to punk that entire Aints defense.

    Greg Williams is still angry cuz the Seahawks just b*tch-slapped his punk defense. Sacking Alex Smith wont undo that BeastQuake!!

    Who Dat? Oh dat was Marshawn. Sorry about dat concussion Porter!

  41. dkeyser says: Aug 13, 2011 12:26 PM

    Which is worse…making the playoffs and losing to a 7-9 team or being in 3rd place behind a 7-9 team??… Keep crying 49ers fans.. Your team sucks..deal with it

  42. trickybastard says: Aug 13, 2011 12:42 PM

    @juliusanonymous

    Keeping crying that’s what whiner fans do. Just know that it isn’t going to make your team not suck

  43. raikarr says: Aug 13, 2011 12:53 PM

    I love how we’re going to hear about this “BeastQuake” nonstop for years to come, since the Seahawks fans have nothing more to look forward to now.

    As a Saints fan, I wont say the Saints “should have won that game.” The Seahawks offense outplayed the Saints defense, and the Saints offense couldn’t keep up. It’s football. Any team can win any game on any given Sunday. It happens. Look at the ‘0t7 Super Bowl.

    But if you’re going to live in one game forever, you’re going to be left behind.

  44. sbxxix says: Aug 13, 2011 12:54 PM

    This is great for the 49ers. Having a new O cord and very limited practice time (like any other team in the NFL) , this will help them during film session. Preseason is usually the time for defenses to look greater than usual since it’s easier to remember a defensive play book than an offensive play book. Smart move by the Saints. Played like they had something to prove in the first game of the preseason it will help their confidence and everyone knows they really need a boost right now after what Lynch did to them last season. Way to bring the house on a new NFL coach and exposing your defensive play book when it matters least Mr. Williams. I’m glad we passed you up.

  45. juliusanonymous says: Aug 13, 2011 12:55 PM

    I want to thank Greg Williams and the entire Saints defense for the greatest moment I have ever experienced as a Seahawks fan. Thank you all! Especially Tracy Porter! Oh, and Porter, we found your helmet, it was up in the 300 level.

    You can’t blame Williams for blitzing the 49ers on every down. He was just trying to prevent another season-ending earthquake.

  46. green80 says: Aug 13, 2011 1:01 PM

    How long have you Saints “fans” been fans anyways?? The real Saint fans remember being in the cellar of the NFC West year after year.

  47. bigsuede says: Aug 13, 2011 1:10 PM

    I don’t think any of the niners whined about it. But to blitz like that in the first game after the opposing team has only had FIVE practices together. And they are learning a new offense(AS didn’t start practicing until last friday) I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t even practice blitz pickups yet due to the lockout.

    I just don’t understand what Williams is going to learn from any of the defensive packages. When the saints blitz in the first preseason game following a lockout against a team that is learning a wholly new offense for the last 10 days- YOU GET SIX SACKS!

    Can anyone tell me what Williams gained? He could have not rushed anyone in the first couple series and still racked up a couple sacks- and it would give the secondary some work- and give linebackers a chance to tackle.

    It was just really odd- and i am surprised that the media didn’t question it more.

  48. nineroutsider says: Aug 13, 2011 1:12 PM

    Saints fans talking a mess of junk to Niners fans and rightfully so…must feel good after all those years of getting kicked in the teeth by the best team in football.

    I think one of those Bourbon Street witch doctors cast a spell that caused the 2 teams to switch bodies…the Niners have been lost for 10 years…almost as bad as the Saints were for 2 decades.

  49. goawayeverybody says: Aug 13, 2011 1:23 PM

    I absolutely LOVE and RELISH how everyone here is implying that somehow these players (and Gregg Williams) should be holding back because “it’s the preseason.”

    First of all, most of these people are fighting FOR A JOB! Do you honestly think these folks are going to hold back when their job description is to get sacks and fumbles and abuse the quarterback? Of course not.

    And finally, there’s an old adage that says if you don’t like what someone is doing to you on the football field, STOP THEM.

  50. kingsrandom says: Aug 13, 2011 1:23 PM

    Nothing terribly wrong with what the saints did but no need to be overly impressed either for beating up on a SF offense by sending blitz after blitz against a team that was probably running basic plays and outside of a couple of players doesn’t strike much fear into opposing defenses.

  51. raikarr says: Aug 13, 2011 1:27 PM

    EVERY team has a bad saga to remember. Some, one game, some a whole season, some still an era. To pretend otherwise is just ignorant. The “Aints” era is over. The Saints are a yearly playoff contender. That’s the moment we’re living in now. That’s the moment we’re enjoying.

    You think the Lions fans are still dwelling on their 0-16 season when they’ve got Stafford and Johnson ready to shred defenses? Doubt it.

    I, for one, am excited as all hell for the upcoming season in the Big Easy, and I’m even going to throw a thank you to Lynch. That “Quake” was just what Payton and Loomis needed to see to finally address our woes against the run for the past few years.

    Football is back and it’s a new season, my friends, and I am very excited for the results.

  52. mdd913 says: Aug 13, 2011 1:43 PM

    How long have you Saints “fans” been fans anyways?? The real Saint fans remember being in the cellar of the NFC West year after year.

    —————————————————

    OK, now exactly how is that relevant to the topic at hand? Saints spent a lot of years getting kicked in the teeth by some great 49ers and Rams teams but that was 20 years ago.

    These days, the Saints are perennial heavyweights while the Niners are a laughingstock. Some would call that poetic justice, given the crooked, cheating manner in which the Niners sustained their success.

  53. mdd913 says: Aug 13, 2011 1:45 PM

    I want to thank Greg Williams and the entire Saints defense for the greatest moment I have ever experienced as a Seahawks fan. Thank you all! Especially Tracy Porter! Oh, and Porter, we found your helmet, it was up in the 300 level.

    You can’t blame Williams for blitzing the 49ers on every down. He was just trying to prevent another season-ending earthquake.

    —————————————————–

    If I’m a Seahawks fan, I’m keeping my damn mouth shut these days. You guys are staring down the barrel of 4-12 and it would probably be best if you kept the crowing to a minimum.

  54. mdd913 says: Aug 13, 2011 1:47 PM

    Also, it’s pretty damn pathetic that that game qualifies as “the greatest moment you have ever experienced as a Seahawks fan.” LOL

  55. juliusanonymous says: Aug 13, 2011 1:48 PM

    Matt Hasselbeck should have sent Greg Williams a “Thank You” card when he got that multi-year deal from Tennessee. His only 2 good games of the year came against the Saints. Greg Williams is personally responsible for making Hasselbeck at least $2 million richer.

    So no, Saints fans, you don’t just have to listen to smack about the Beast Quake. You can also be proud that your defense gave up 650 yards of passing to Matt Hasselbeck, out of the 3000 yards passing he had all season. Think about that for a second: Matt Hasselbeck had his two best games against you and put up over 20% of his season total passing yards against your pathetic defense.

    But hey, at least you guys can get pressure on a third-string hack on one of the worst teams in the NFL in the preseason. Who Dat Paper Tiger!!

  56. fan73 says: Aug 13, 2011 1:49 PM

    Williams wasnt tryina prove anything and he wasnt tryina make the 9ers look bad, hes just evaluating the talent…they brought in alot of guys on defense and theres gonna be some tough choices on who to keep and these preseason games r the time to see whos got it…its ridiculous to say that he opened up the playbook and is showing the game plan too soon, lol, the game plan changes from week to week depending on the opponent

  57. philwauke says: Aug 13, 2011 2:02 PM

    nineroutsider says:
    Aug 13, 2011 1:12 PM
    Saints fans talking a mess of junk to Niners fans and rightfully so…must feel good after all those years of getting kicked in the teeth by the best team in football.

    I think one of those Bourbon Street witch doctors cast a spell that caused the 2 teams to switch bodies…the Niners have been lost for 10 years…almost as bad as the Saints were for 2 decades.
    —————————————————-It’s called the 80’s dude. Stop living in it.

  58. scomibord says: Aug 13, 2011 2:20 PM

    All you women here crying about,” Blitzing against a team that only had 5 practices together” I hear the NFL is looking to hire female officials, oh brother-SMFH!

  59. mdd913 says: Aug 13, 2011 2:23 PM

    against your pathetic defense.
    —————————————————-

    Saints were the 4th ranked defense in the NFL last season, and that’s even with the mass of injuries that led to the playoff game. The only things that is “pathetic” here are the loser Seahawks fans clinging to any tiny bit of fleeting success.

    The Saints have built themselves into one of the NFL’s powerhouse teams. Meanwhile, the Seahawks are the same anonymous bunch they have always been. But hey, even with Tavaris Jackson you should at least manage a split with the Niners so hopefully you won’t have to worry about an 0-16 season.

  60. 504in860 says: Aug 13, 2011 2:50 PM

    So beating the Saints ranks higher than reaching the Super Bowl for that 1 Seahawks fan? That’s pretty sad.

    Wait, I get it…you became a fan after that game.

  61. juliusanonymous says: Aug 13, 2011 3:00 PM

    @mdd913:
    Also, it’s pretty damn pathetic that that game qualifies as “the greatest moment you have ever experienced as a Seahawks fan.” LOL
    ———————–

    I wouldn’t expect you to understand. You have no clue what it’s like to be jumping and screaming along with 70k other fans so hard that you cause an earthquake. I have. And it was totally effing incredible.

    Do you know what it takes for a crowd that small to make that much ruckus? Of course you don’t. You’ve never seen anything like it.

    Who Dat?? Oh dat was the 12th Man!! Dat who!!

  62. juliusanonymous says: Aug 13, 2011 3:02 PM

    *ring ring*

    Tracy Porter: Hello?

    Marshawn Lynch: GET OFF ME!!!!

  63. axespray says: Aug 13, 2011 3:11 PM

    Coaches: “We’ve gotta set the TEMPO during practice and preseason and training camp….”

    in case you don’t know, the saints play pretty aggressive football….with a high tempo…

    ka-durrh!?

  64. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 3:19 PM

    My question is why does Greg Williams need to throw his entire bag of blitzing tricks against any team that has been practicing for a week and a half? Most NFL teams have been installing basic formations. Most haven’t even started working on complex blitz protection schemes. The Niner defense played the Saints straight up and shut them down. If I’m a Saints fan, I’m wondering why the Saints defense needs to pull a bunch of tricks out the hat right off the bat. Has anyone here ever even seen an NFL team blitz that much in any preseason game? What’s wrong with the Saints defense that it needs to pull a stunt like that? Now, I understand why the Niners wouldn’t consider Greg Williams for a head coaching job. He has no class, he’s not very smart, and he doesn’t even have enough faith that his own defense could beat a young, learning offense straight up.

  65. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 3:24 PM

    Honestly, I’d be embarrassed if I were a Saints fan. The Niner defense beat their first string offense with no tricks. They just shut them down, period. The Saints could have pulled that no-class stunt on any team in the league. Nobody had more than a week and a half of practice. No team with new coaches and schemes has had enough time to get beyond basic formations and learning plays.

    To me, it looks like Peyton and Williams were hazing Jim Harbaugh and although Harbaugh and Niners were being classy and not complaining too much, I’m sure they’ll remember what happened. The Saints, with their no-class stunt, slapped the Niners in the face and probably did them a favor. I have a feeling this is going to come around and bite the Saints in the butt at some point in the future.

  66. juliusanonymous says: Aug 13, 2011 3:27 PM

    @billb49:

    Greg Williams is just butt-hurt because his paper tigers got absolutely demolished by the worst playoff team in the history of the NFL a few months ago.

    Saints need a new DC. Their defense is terrible. Seahawks were one of the worst offenses in football last season and they made us look like the Patriots.

  67. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 3:33 PM

    mdd913: “These days, the Saints are perennial heavyweights while the Niners are a laughingstock. Some would call that poetic justice, given the crooked, cheating manner in which the Niners sustained their success.”

    That’s a Saints fan for you. One championship and you’re a “perennial heavyweight.” Pathetic. And whining that the Niners got their five championships by cheating is hilarious icing on the cake. Beautiful. Again, a brand new Niner defense, on less than two weeks practice, completely shut down your first string offense straight up, man-to-man, using no tricks at all. Again, your team wasn’t man enough to do the same thing to a brand new offense. For some reason, your coaches broke all NFL precedent and pulled every blitz out of the bag for a first practice game less than two weeks after a lockout. That slap in the face may have done the Niners a great service, but your coaches didn’t do your team any favors. People who understand how the league works are probably shaking their heads and come regular season, your QB is going to have a huge target on his back.

  68. mdd913 says: Aug 13, 2011 3:33 PM

    *ring ring*

    Tracy Porter: Hello?

    Marshawn Lynch: GET OFF ME!!!!

    ————————————————–

    You sure are doing a lot of crowing over a team that, by the end of this season, will be lucky to have won 10 games in a two-year span.

    Know your place, kid.

  69. scomibord says: Aug 13, 2011 3:40 PM

    waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. mooooooooooom! those big mean Saints players are beating up our crappy quaterback. It’s not fair. Waaaaaaaaaaaah. They are mean.

  70. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 3:52 PM

    “Perhaps Williams wanted to send a message this Saints team has a different identity.”

    To most people who have been following the NFL for years, that identity would be “we have no class” and “we have no confidence in our base defense.” Let’s add, “we’re a dirty team with dicks for coaches.”

  71. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 4:12 PM

    Hey scomibord, it’s fair, but what does it say about the Saints? Can’t the Saints defense beat a brand new offense with less than two weeks practice under their belts straight up? The Niner defense shut down the Saints first team straight up with no tricks. And, the Saints have been practicing all summer. A defensive team that always blitzes is making a statement. The statement is “we can’t stop you straight up.”

    The brand new Niner defense, without its starting Nose Tackle in a 3-4 and a couple other starters, played the first string Saints offense from a base position with no blitzes and stopped them cold. If I were a Saints fan, that’s what I’d be worried about. And, I’d think twice before honking and braying about beating up a QB with 18 blitzes after a couple weeks when new NFL offenses have barely had enough time to install basic formations. I guess you’ll take what you can get, but I think long-time Niner fans have higher standards.

  72. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 4:21 PM

    juliusanonymous, I think you hit the nail on the head. Saints fans are calling their team a “perennial powerhouse” after getting beaten at home in the playoffs by the 7-9 Seahawks.

    I don’t think they know exactly what a “perennial powerhouse” is. Let me help. A “perennial powerhouse” would be a team that goes 16 straight years winning 10 or more victories a season, goes to 8 or 9 championship games and is 5-0 in the FIVE Superbowls in which it has played. A “perennial powerhouse” is not a one-and-done phenomenon that loses to a 7-9 playoff team the year after it wins it all. I’m happy that the Saints finally won a championship. I rooted for them in that game. I was happy for New Orleans, one of my favorite cities in the country. But “perennial powerhouse??!!” Come on.

  73. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 4:29 PM

    One more thing, Saints fans and I’m probably done for the day: if you’re excited about a team that has to throw the entire defensive blitzing scheme at a struggling, mediocre team with 10 years of losing seasons behind it and a brand new set of coaches and a new playbook, you need to check yourselves because I think you’re going to be very disappointed once the regular season begins and things start to really matter.

    A team that’s sure of itself would have played the Niners straight up and said, “go ahead, try to move the ball on us. You can’t do it.” A team that’s got the same scheme as it has had for a few years and the same coaches, a team that’s been notable for the amount of organized practices during the summer lockout, should have been able to get a first down against a brand new defense playing them straight up and without some of its key starters. But, the Saints couldn’t do that. Good luck in the regular season, Saints fans. You’re going to need a lot of luck.

  74. 504in860 says: Aug 13, 2011 4:30 PM

    billb49 says:
    Aug 13, 2011 4:21 PM

    juliusanonymous, I think you hit the nail on the head. Saints fans are calling their team a “perennial powerhouse” after getting beaten at home in the playoffs by the 7-9 Seahawks.
    —————————————————————

    So…that game wasn’t in Seattle? Just as I suspected, you don’t know much about football.

  75. 504in860 says: Aug 13, 2011 4:31 PM

    A “perennial powerhouse” would be a team that goes 16 straight years winning 10 or more victories a season, goes to 8 or 9 championship games and is 5-0 in the FIVE Superbowls in which it has played.
    —————————————————————

    That’s called ancient history actually.

  76. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 5:04 PM

    Whining Saints fan: “So…that game wasn’t in Seattle? Just as I suspected, you don’t know much about football.”

    Let me paraphrase you: whaaaaa, we can’t win an important game unless we drown out the other team’s calls in our craphouse of an indoor stadium. You want to be a “perennial powerhouse,” but you can’t win a playoff game on the road against a 7-9 team.

    And, 504in860, fine. To some people with limited intelligence, things that happened less than 20 years ago is called “ancient history.” Fine. Let’s just call it the New England Patriots then. Whatever example you’d like to use, again, a one-and-done that loses a playoff game to a 7-9 team is NOT a “perennial powerhouse.” You’ve got a few years to go of sustained winning before you can legitimately call yourself that.

    You know, Saints fans, you’ve got a beautiful city there – one of my favorites. But, you’re definitely not the smartest fans in the world.

  77. 504in860 says: Aug 13, 2011 5:18 PM

    I only see one person whining right now…look in the mirror. The 49ers are so far from being a legit team that you have to brag about what another team in your own division “accomplished.” It’s rather sad actually.

    P.S. That “craphouse” of an indoor stadium will be hosting yet another Super Bowl next season. One in which the Forty Whiners will be watching…again.

  78. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 5:44 PM

    You’re right, Saints fan. It’s a safe bet that the Niners aren’t making the big game this year, but if you’re not worried about your Saints, you’re whistling past the graveyard.

    Your well-practiced, cohesive powerhouse offense couldn’t get a first down against a brand new 3-4 without its starting NT and a few other starters playing it straight up without any tricks. And, your defense somehow couldn’t play a mediocre, two-week old offense without throwing the book at them. Let’s just say that if that’s any indication of where the Saints stand, they’ll also be watching the big game this year.

  79. 504in860 says: Aug 13, 2011 6:18 PM

    Hilarious! The 49ers have been “installing” a new offense every year since Alex Smith was drafted. When will that stop being an excuse?

    By the way, the Saints starting defense only played 3 series…so not only does your starting unit suck, but so does your backups.

  80. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 6:34 PM

    The Niners have a brand new coaching staff, a new system and an entirely new book of plays. One could say the same thing about a half a dozen other teams. It’s not so much an excuse as it is a fact. The Saints, on the other hand, already have an established system and are well-known to have been practicing a lot during the lockout. Now seriously, all I’m saying is that in three series, the Saints first string offense couldn’t get a first down against a new 3-4 unit without it’s starting Nose Tackle and a few other starters. I’m very encouraged with the Niner defense and especially with their first round draft pick who got a sack without the benefit of any blitzing.

    On the other side of the ball, I’m just surprised Gregg Williams thought he had to do that to stop such a new offense.

  81. raikarr says: Aug 13, 2011 7:04 PM

    “I wouldn’t expect you to understand. You have no clue what it’s like to be jumping and screaming along with 70k other fans so hard that you cause an earthquake. I have. And it was totally effing incredible. ”

    …Seriously? I’m surprised Louisiana didn’t friggin’ SINK after Hartley kicked us into the Bowl.

    And guys? It’s preseason. Gregg didn’t HAVE to do anything. He brought the house because that’s what he LOVES to do. He wanted to welcome us back to football with a bang, not a whimper.

    I was only surprised to see Payton calling plays so conservatively. Brees with only 4 pass attempts in 3 series? Yeah, that’s not going to happen in the regular season.

  82. ikoikofinanay says: Aug 13, 2011 7:06 PM

    Are you kidding me??? Gregg Williams was too rough on a QB? And he’s angry b/c they didn’t offer him a HC job? Please!!

    This Saints D is more talented than any we’ve ever had…ON PAPER. It’s up to the individuals to make an impression on their coach so they actually MAKE the team. Williams just put them in a position to do that. You may see some of these guys on your own team soon, so quit complaining and start writing your thank you notes to the Saints org for finding these guys.

    BTW if any of you think for a moment GW exposed his entire playbook, stay tuned, you’re in for quite a show this season!

  83. crabboil says: Aug 13, 2011 7:38 PM

    Perennial powerhouse.

    Since the beginning of the Brees/Payton era, the Saints are the winningest team in the NFC.

    Keep crying.

  84. billb49 says: Aug 13, 2011 7:46 PM

    I think you need to be better than one and done to be considered a “perennial powerhouse”. Oh, and you need to be able to win on the road when it counts. The Saints have already proven they can’t do that. I’m probably spoiled because the team I root for ended up with five championships and two of those included playoff road wins. Saints fans, in your wildest dreams, you’ll never get close to that, but dream on.

    And, if the Saints defense were so damn talented, they should have been able to stop the Niners straight up, without tricks, just like the Niner defense did to the Saints starting group. Again, the Niners new 3-4 without a starting nose tackle stopped the Saints first team cold. I think it’s already over for the Saints, but I understand that it will take time to convince Saints fans.

  85. 504in860 says: Aug 13, 2011 8:27 PM

    billb49 says:
    Aug 13, 2011 4:29 PM

    One more thing, Saints fans and I’m probably done for the day:
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    Uh huh.

  86. raikarr says: Aug 13, 2011 8:30 PM

    ..Tricks? Since when is blitzing a trick?

    A team is “done” after one preseason game?

    I don’t want to be rude, I really really don’t. But you NEED to stop talking.

  87. 504in860 says: Aug 13, 2011 8:41 PM

    Right. If any team is done after 1 preseason game, it’s the Niners.

  88. goawayeverybody says: Aug 13, 2011 9:28 PM

    Dear Bill49,

    you are making a very bad name for 49ers fans with your incessant whining and silliness. Making the playoffs 3 of the last 5 seasons DOES a powerhouse make. On top of that the Saints have made the NFC championship game 2 times in the last 5 seasons. Also, do you know which team has more regular season wins than the Saints over the past two years? None.

    I like the 49ers, but they are clearly going to be in the wilderness for a while. Currently, they do not have a quarterback and they are in a rebuilding year. But please feel free to keep whining about “tricks.” LOL.

  89. mdd913 says: Aug 13, 2011 10:35 PM

    Greg Williams is just butt-hurt because his paper tigers got absolutely demolished by the worst playoff team in the history of the NFL a few months ago.

    Saints need a new DC. Their defense is terrible. Seahawks were one of the worst offenses in football last season and they made us look like the Patriots.

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    *sigh* Let’s try to explain this one more time for the weak-minded….

    You know the difference between a perrenial contender like the Saints and a crap team like the Seahawks?

    The Saints, despite having just won a Super Bowl the year before and fielding an elite defense in 2010, didn’t rest on their laurels. They could’ve easily dismissed the Seahawks game as a fluke but they didn’t. They went and and drafted a stud DE, signed the best two free-agent DT’s on the market, and brought in a slew of fresh faces at linebacker.

    The Seahawks, meanwhile, turned their meager success last year and went completely ass-backwards. Tavaris Jackson? LOL. No literally, I am laughing out loud at the complete ineptitude of your franchise. But hey, hang your hat on that playoff win…at least it’ll give you something good to think about when you’re going 2-14 this year.

  90. juliusanonymous says: Aug 14, 2011 2:11 AM

    @mdd913:

    You can sit here and talk smack all day long about this season. It still doesn’t change what happened.

    Your team crowed all week long how they were going to come to Seattle and beat us, and the whole NFL laughed and laughed about how Seattle didn’t belong, and how the Aints would totally demolish us.

    And guess what happened? Your Saints got crushed by a team with a first year head coach, a ton of injuries, and a bunch of castoffs and losers that couldn’t even get on the practice squads of other teams.

    You all laughed at Carroll for giving Big Mike Williams a shot, and guess what he did to your precious Aints defense? He freaking shredded you. Our second-string TE figured out your defense wouldn’t even cover him if he pretended to be out of the play because the Aints only play half-hearted. And guess what? We got a TD on that play. As with many others.

    For all the smack you Aints fans may want to talk, the simple fact is that the last football game you played that counted, you got your butts handed to you by the Seattle Seahawks. That same team you are trying to talk smack about. The Seattle Seahawks suck, eh? Then how do you explain your entire defense getting punked out like girl scouts at a biker convention?

    I wish we got to play New Orleans every week. Softest pretenders in the NFC…

  91. mdd913 says: Aug 14, 2011 8:19 AM

    @mdd913:

    You can sit here and talk smack all day long about this season. It still doesn’t change what happened.

    Your team crowed all week long how they were going to come to Seattle and beat us, and the whole NFL laughed and laughed about how Seattle didn’t belong, and how the Aints would totally demolish us.

    And guess what happened? Your Saints got crushed by a team with a first year head coach, a ton of injuries, and a bunch of castoffs and losers that couldn’t even get on the practice squads of other teams.

    You all laughed at Carroll for giving Big Mike Williams a shot, and guess what he did to your precious Aints defense? He freaking shredded you. Our second-string TE figured out your defense wouldn’t even cover him if he pretended to be out of the play because the Aints only play half-hearted. And guess what? We got a TD on that play. As with many others.

    For all the smack you Aints fans may want to talk, the simple fact is that the last football game you played that counted, you got your butts handed to you by the Seattle Seahawks. That same team you are trying to talk smack about. The Seattle Seahawks suck, eh? Then how do you explain your entire defense getting punked out like girl scouts at a biker convention?

    I wish we got to play New Orleans every week. Softest pretenders in the NFC…

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    The best thing about this comment? I hardly have to respond. You are making yourself look like a fool and I don’t even have to help.

    At the end of the day, we both know my team is a contender for the Super Bowl and yours is a contender for the #1 draft pick. So enjoy the season, guy.

  92. goawayeverybody says: Aug 14, 2011 5:19 PM

    Man this season is going to be fun. This is delicious watching fans of a totally failed and clueless franchise like the Seahacks come and talk smack because they beat the Saints when their defense was riddled with key injuries during that one game. Never mind the fact that the Seahacks got obliterated a few weeks earlier by the Saints and also got wiped off the field by the feckless incompetent Chicago Bears.

    It’s also been fun seeing the 49er fans pay a visit. The 49ers will absolutely go no better than 6-10 this year. They have no quarterback and neither do the Seahacks. I like Tarvaris Jackson and I want him to be good but he simply is not. Alex Smith is also an epic failure and the 49ers are simply 3 years in deep denial. I have no clue whatsoever why these two franchises – especially the 49ers – didn’t try harder to get good quarterbacks this year. Someone is going to be fired for not grabbing Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, or Ryan Mallett.

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