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McNabb says Vikings’ offense is where it needs to be

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Donovan McNabb went 6-of-11 for 40 yards in his first game in a Vikings uniform Saturday night, and both of the series he played ended in punts. But McNabb sounded satisfied afterward.

“It felt good,” McNabb said. “I thought we had a great flow with the offense. Our timing and chemistry was where we needed to be.”

McNabb has been criticized at times for having a slow tempo and not hustling enough on the field, so it was interesting that he made a specific point of saying that he thought the Vikings’ offense moved at the right pace.

“I thought as an offensive unit we were in and out of the huddle in enough time to make checks if we had to,” McNabb said. “That’s where you want to start in the preseason.”

When McNabb left the game, Joe Webb came in and struggled as a passer, going 4-of-8 for 45 yards and an interception. But Webb picked up 33 yards running and led the Vikings’ only scoring drive in their 14-3 loss.

After Webb came rookie Christian Ponder at quarterback for the Vikings. Ponder went 8-of-13 for 84 yards, and he was sacked three times.

With all three quarterbacks, the Vikings’ passing game consisted of short passes almost exclusively. McNabb threw downfield only once, and the one deep ball he tried, to Bernard Berrian, was incomplete. If the Vikings’ offense is really going to get where it needs to be, McNabb is going to have to average more than the 3.6 yards a pass he averaged in the preseason loss to the Titans.

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  1. bobnelsonjr says: Aug 14, 2011 9:12 AM

    Without Brett Favre the vikings are not going to do much this year.

    Their hope is in Ponder and he will take 3 years to develop if he can stay healthy behind that porous O-line.

    It is going to take the vikings years to aquire the players needed to compete in the NFL.

  2. karlpilkington says: Aug 14, 2011 9:12 AM

    If the things that were said about mcflab were not true than why would he say those things?

  3. narrabeen23 says: Aug 14, 2011 9:13 AM

    True Eagles fans still have much love for ya DMac. Thanks for the memories

  4. jiggerdave says: Aug 14, 2011 9:14 AM

    Where’s that?

  5. myeaglescantwin says: Aug 14, 2011 9:18 AM

    //and both of the series he played ended in punts. But McNabb sounded satisfied afterward.\\

    ten to one odds he was smiling on most of the incomplete passes.

    any vikings fans wanna tell me how many balls he threw at WRs feet
    (real request)

  6. MichaelEdits says: Aug 14, 2011 9:18 AM

    Maybe I’ve forgotten how football works during the lockout, but I thought the Minnesota offense needed to be in the Tennessee end zone.

  7. mommydrank says: Aug 14, 2011 9:25 AM

    In Seattle?

  8. disagreelos1 says: Aug 14, 2011 9:26 AM

    wondering if he was standing in a trash can while doing this interview outside of Peterson . Don’t see them gaining much yards

  9. richm2256 says: Aug 14, 2011 9:32 AM

    Donovan McNabb 6/11 for 40 yds.
    Joe Webb 4/8 for 45 yds., 1 INT
    Christian Ponder 8/13 for 84 yds., 3 sacks

    The Minny QBs were a collective 18/32 for 169 yds, 1 INT and 3 sacks while scoring a whopping 3 points.

    ““I thought we had a great flow with the offense. Our timing and chemistry was where we needed to be.”

    ——————————————————-

    Way to set the bar high, D.M.

  10. jimmysee says: Aug 14, 2011 9:35 AM

    Now that’s reassuring!

  11. drstrangelust says: Aug 14, 2011 9:42 AM

    Really? Are you guys such rubes that you don’t understand the nuances of pre season football? Get a starting job in the NFL before you start throwing out your ‘expertise!’

  12. wawa33 says: Aug 14, 2011 9:48 AM

    Percy Harvin will get migraines from McNabb bounce passes.

  13. flavordave says: Aug 14, 2011 9:50 AM

    So as an Eagles fan Ill tell Viking fans exactly what I told Redskin fans last year: The first four weeks youll be in love with hope saying “aw yeah this is great”, the next four weeks youll think “hmm somethings not quite right” the next four weeks youll be yelling “Oh come on McNabb he was wide open” Then the last four youll be saying lets see how Ponder looks. The point is this, McNabb is a good QB just dont expect greatness.

  14. scudbot says: Aug 14, 2011 9:51 AM

    bobnelsonjr says: “It is going to take the vikings years to aquire the players needed to compete in the NFL.” Agreed. But first the Vikes have to acquire someone who’s capable of finding and hiring player personnel staff that’s competent and a GM who doesn’t hose up the draft. But here’s some good news: the Packers have to get rid of up to 37 players pretty soon.

  15. duncanthecat says: Aug 14, 2011 9:54 AM

    I can’t believe the Vikes gave up a draft pick for him.

  16. norseman69 says: Aug 14, 2011 10:03 AM

    Hmmm, seems the coaching is going with the two smartest QB’s and putting Ponder with the 3rd team, that really sets Christian up for success!

    WOW how smart are those other coaches, look at their QB’s who were drafted any played great, Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett & Gabbert all of them were fine and their coaches did not think they need to sit for 3 years to learn… like Matt Ryan & Flacco (let’s not even mention Peyton & Ben)… oops they did NOT sit they were starters right away…

    silly me why would I question the decision to start someone with a 85 career qb rating..

  17. steelerhypocrite says: Aug 14, 2011 10:04 AM

    The Vikings window of opportunity is officially shut. McNabb is (and always has been) overrated – sorry gals, but Rush Limbaugh was accurate in his analysis. If they had a decent QB instead of Favre a few years ago, they may have won the Super Bowl. Peterson is declining – maybe one decent season left. Minnesota will challenge Chicago for last place in the NFC North.

  18. jacksaysfu says: Aug 14, 2011 10:10 AM

    As a Eagles fan i seriously think people are writing him off way too early . I don’t consider him elite anymore, but IMO he’s still a top 15 QB. Take away last year and his #’s are impressive, besides he has NEVER had a guy like AP to take pressure off him and actually get defenses to bite on his play action. Good luck #5. !!

  19. seabreezes51 says: Aug 14, 2011 10:14 AM

    flavordave, You forgot to mention how McNabb will say plenty of right things to the media, and then will toss his teammates under the bus, in a very clever sort of way that only he can do.

  20. phillyhouse222 says: Aug 14, 2011 10:15 AM

    I’ve made it my personal “crusade” to defend McNabb when these unjust criticisms are thrust upon him.

    The key part of his statement was that’s where you “start” in the preseason. He wasn’t comparing them to The Greatest Show on Turf or the ’07 Patriots.

    If McNabb would have criticized the playcalling, his o-line, or the WR, then he’s “whining.”

    If he would have blamed himself, you would have called him “insincere.”

    If he avoids the media, then he’s a “malcontent.”

    The guy simply can’t win.

    As an Eagles fan, I can tell you McNabb had faults. However his strengths far outweighed his limitations. The problem I’ve had with the McNabb naysayers is that why make a mountain out of a mole hill? If McNabb was as bad as you claim, then ostracizing innocuous quotes would be unnecessary.

  21. terrellblowens says: Aug 14, 2011 10:19 AM

    It’s just the preseason, calm down everyone. If he plays like this in the regular season, that’s another story. I hope McNabb succeeds in Minny and plays he way I think he is still capable of. Real Eagles fans still love you, McNabb. Sorry you couldn’t win one in Philly.

  22. sgmjerry220 says: Aug 14, 2011 10:20 AM

    Both lines looked bad, were easily handled. Secondary looks like they are going to be named “Bread Loaf” as they will be toast many times a game.

  23. tombrookshire says: Aug 14, 2011 10:25 AM

    Get used to it Vikes fans. McNabb learned how to spin from the master, Andy Reid. Save all that pollyanna, McNabb, your performance tells the whole story. Vikes fans get ready for another disappointing season. At least on your surface, McNabb won’t be murdering worms with his passes. In a way I feel sorry for him. His career ended two years ago and no one told him. He is going to be a national laughing stock again this year.

  24. garyandersonsleftfoot says: Aug 14, 2011 10:26 AM

    It’s preseaon. New head coach, new offensive coordinator, new qb coach, new rb coach, new lb coach, 2 new qbs, and 1 week of practice, yea id say they’re about at the right place, wasn’t expecting fireworks. But again it is still preseason… stop the hate before game 1…

  25. scudbot says: Aug 14, 2011 10:28 AM

    For the Vikes’ fans sake, I hope Ponder comes on fast. Otherwise you gave away a draft pick to get rid of a jump passer and add a turf skimmer.

  26. kspl1 says: Aug 14, 2011 10:32 AM

    Can someone please answer when the HELL did Mcnabb ever throw a teammate under the bus. Give me one quote. U Mcnabb haters are so stupid. Give me one quote though…….I’m waiting. I hopetogod he has a great year and shuts u A-holes up.

  27. shawon0meter says: Aug 14, 2011 10:36 AM

    “Without Brett Favre the vikings are not going to do much this year. ”

    lol because they did so much with him last season

  28. b1rdbath says: Aug 14, 2011 10:37 AM

    Oh man. Poor Vike fans.

    Get used to that love/hate feeling.

    Trust me its frustrating

  29. cusoman says: Aug 14, 2011 10:52 AM

    flavordave says:
    Aug 14, 2011 9:50 AM
    So as an Eagles fan Ill tell Viking fans exactly what I told Redskin fans last year: The first four weeks youll be in love with hope saying “aw yeah this is great”, the next four weeks youll think “hmm somethings not quite right” the next four weeks youll be yelling “Oh come on McNabb he was wide open” Then the last four youll be saying lets see how Ponder looks. The point is this, McNabb is a good QB just dont expect greatness.

    —————-

    The difference here being there’s legit greatness of a running game to turn to in absence of lack of air, O-line be damned. Looking for Rudolph and J.Klien to plug that up together.

  30. nfceastisbeast says: Aug 14, 2011 10:58 AM

    Can someone please answer when the HELL did Mcnabb ever throw a teammate under the bus. Give me one quote. U Mcnabb haters are so stupid. Give me one quote though…….I’m waiting. I hopetogod he has a great year and shuts u A-holes up.

    I believe they are refering to the Cardinals NFC Championship game when he said something about “the young guys”, don’t remember the exact quote, but I believe in inference was towards DeSean Jackson.

  31. sdw2001 says: Aug 14, 2011 11:01 AM

    steelerhypocrite says:
    Aug 14, 2011 10:04 AM
    The Vikings window of opportunity is officially shut. McNabb is (and always has been) overrated – sorry gals, but Rush Limbaugh was accurate in his analysis. If they had a decent QB instead of Favre a few years ago, they may have won the Super Bowl. Peterson is declining – maybe one decent season left. Minnesota will challenge Chicago for last place in the NFC North.

    ——————–
    The windows is closing, but you’re wrong elsewhere. Favre would have won them a SB were it not for the fumbles in the NFC championship. His INT at the end was unfortunate, but it wouldn’t have mattered without the five fumbles (or whatever).

    As for Peterson, there is no real evidence he’s declining. He’s also only 26 years old and in his 5th season. RB’s don’t have much of a shelf life, but 26? Please.

    I agree though that they are not going to be a real contender. Especially with McNutts at QB.

  32. blackgold4life says: Aug 14, 2011 11:03 AM

    Didn’t he say that with the Eagles and Redskins?

  33. kernelreefer says: Aug 14, 2011 11:08 AM

    b1rdbath says:
    Aug 14, 2011 10:37 AM

    Oh man. Poor Vike fans.

    Get used to that love/hate feeling.

    Trust me its frustrating

    ——————————-

    We know the feeling. Moss, Favre, Rice, Johnson, Cunningham, Anderson…

    Or basically just the team.

  34. moochzilla says: Aug 14, 2011 11:15 AM

    McNabb needs more weapons.

  35. deconjonesbitchslap says: Aug 14, 2011 11:17 AM

    vikings are absolutely screwed. offensive line is injured. the new right tackle isn’t any improvement. receivers stink, besides harvin. corners are garbage (and i mean, BAD) besides winfield. griffin is injured, again. get ready for lots of Cook and Allen getting beat by 10 yards. and stop this nonsense with Joe Webb and QB. put the guy at WR already, and play jamaar johnson more. enough with the running QB’s! also, cut berrian. favre didn’t throw to him because he couldn’t catch is passes.

  36. moochzilla says: Aug 14, 2011 11:33 AM

    “Can someone please answer when the HELL did Mcnabb ever throw a teammate under the bus. Give me one quote. ”

    1) “We showed our youth today” after he delivered an all-time worst performance ever vs Dallas (Jackson, Maclin, Celek).

    2) To reporter post-game: “Believe me, I wasn’t the only reason we lost that game”. Tells reporter to look at the tape.

    3) Threw defense under the bus when his awful play in the Arizona game cost them the NFC Title game. ” All I know is that we had the lead when I left the field” or something like that.

    4) Refused to get involved with TO’s contract, citing that he doesn’t get involved in other players business. Then promptly did exactly that for Westbrook. Cost us a SB, IMO.

    5) Stood by himself and sulked when benched in favor of Kolb vs Baltimore. Stood by himself and sulked when benched in favor of Rex in DC.

    6) Spent a decade sitting by himself on the bench during every defensive series. Rarely if ever seen looking at clips, on the phone, or talking to teammates.

    7) Walked around the field laughing and joking with the opposition as Buckhalter was lying on the field, having suffered a devastating 3rd knee injury. He could not have cared less, despite being a teammate of CBuck for years.
    8) ZERO Eagles or Redskins teammates voiced any regrets when he was let go. Tells you all you need to know about his relationships.

    9) CONSISTENTLY, to this day, tarnishes the legacy of Brian Westbrook by insisting he “never had a RB”.

    Those are just the top ones. If you live in Philly and heard this man speak for over a decade – which you did not – then you’d know he was a passive-aggressive, blame-dodging, finger pointer of the highest order.

    Wanted all the credit when they won (even if he played bad, like when Redskins beat Eagles last season and he mouthed off in the locker room post game), sought to avoid any blame when they lost.

    No accountability.

    We’ve seen it twice now, will see it again in Minny.

  37. bhester1906 says: Aug 14, 2011 11:36 AM

    The Vikings are going to be HORRIBLE. Sorry but Frazier is gonna be looking for a new job after this year. They have a slot WR, a mediocre TE, a depleted O-Line, shaky secondary, depleted D-line, and McNabb(That is a bad thing, too). AP is going to have a long, long year.

  38. flavordave says: Aug 14, 2011 11:36 AM

    usoman says:
    The difference here being there’s legit greatness of a running game to turn to in absence of lack of air, O-line be damned. Looking for Rudolph and J.Klien to plug that up together

    —————————————-

    Westbrook was legit. Please dont even tell me otherwise.

  39. phillyhouse222 says: Aug 14, 2011 11:39 AM

    kspli:

    Great point! What happens is that the naysayers parse McNabb’s words. They don’t micromanage other QB’s words in the same way. I know for a fact Peyton said he had “protection problems” after a playoff years a few years back.

    Before you say, “Well Peyton is the best QB, he can say that,” my point is that’s irrelevant. Besides, if it’s the truth, what’s the big deal?

    I will continue to say that McNabb had a team full of Todd Pinkstons, James Thrashes and Na Browns, and the Eagles still had a modicum of success.

    Is he Tom Brady? Nope, but no one is. And I’m not claiming he’s “elite” right now. I’m just saying that the guy is a winner, he doesn’t throw picks, and he still has a strong arm.

  40. eyefeeler says: Aug 14, 2011 11:42 AM

    I tend to agree with McNabb on this one. After watching the play calling (and this is the preseason) this is the most diverse play calling since Brian Billick. The offense looks modern and smart. They lined up in goal line from the 20 and had a series of routes for the tight ends and wide receivers. After 10 practices it was a success.

  41. flavordave says: Aug 14, 2011 11:42 AM

    moochzilla- Awesome work. I thought of a few of those myself. That cardinals palyoff loss where he blamed the defense and that cowboys playoff loss blaming the youth when it was him throwing groundballs with awful. Good job shutting that McNabb clown supporter up.

  42. dtrb10 says: Aug 14, 2011 11:43 AM

    It’s gonna be a long and frustrating year. No offensive line, secondary is horrible.

  43. briang123 says: Aug 14, 2011 11:52 AM

    Poor Vikings fans. That NFC Championship Game you shoulda won will seem like 20 years ago when this season gets going. If you had any chance with McNabb, it was last year. The Vikings and McNabb are done.

  44. phillyhouse222 says: Aug 14, 2011 11:59 AM

    Moochzilla, I am from Philly and I can remember the things that you allege.

    1. A REPORTER suggested the youth comment, not McNabb. Maybe he shouldn’t have co-signed but it’s not like McNabb just blurted out, “Them young boys lost the game.”

    2. It’s the truth, man. I know the QB should just accept blame, but you know as an intelligent Philly guy that McNabb rarely cost us games. He didn’t have 4 interception games on a regular basis.

    3. That was a bad move by McNabb. I agree with you on that one. He shouldn’t have said that. However, the Eagles had the Cards on a 4th and 1, and let them convert it. That’s inexcusable. Still, that doesn’t make McNabb a “bad guy.”

    4. Owens was 70-80% the blame on that one. Besides, McNabb was instrumental in getting him here in the first place.

    5. You’re wrong on both accounts, sir. Besides, what should he do? The Eagles were down 10-3 when he got benched in Baltimore. When Kolb got in there it became a blowout. And if you were benched for Gross Rexman, are you gonna have a Kool Aid smile on your face?

    6. You just described all the QBs in the league on your first comment. And McNabb talked to Marty during the games.

    7-8. You should be more upset Buckhalter was congratulating Cardinals players after the 2009 NGCCG after we lost. And I remember Leonard Weaver making a comment about missing McNabb. Besides, the team was ready move on with Kolb. Why land yourself in the doghouse by supporting a guy who is gone? And the Skins weren’t going to “have his back” because the Shanahans didn’t like McNabb and he was only there a year.

    9. Now this is the most laughable one. McNabb ALWAYS praised Westbrook! He called him the “Ultimate Weapon” or something like that.

    Moochzilla, I respect your opinion. You make some good points. I just think that because we didn’t get a Super Bowl, McNabb has gotten more criticism. Many of these things aren’t that bad in the grand scheme of things. Overally, McNabb’s good outweighed his bad.

  45. favrelous says: Aug 14, 2011 12:05 PM

    Viking haters comments are fairly retarded. Mcnab, Peterson, Harvin….plenty of talent.

  46. kspl1 says: Aug 14, 2011 12:17 PM

    @moochzilla

    1) I do live in Philly and have since mcnabbs whole career

    2) last year Vick and Reid said the same thing that some players showed Their youth. No one twisted their words

    3) the defense DID BLOW that NFC title game to Arizona. Brian Dawkins even said it. I don’t remember Donovan saying that though

    4) I don’t recall him saying “I wasn’t the only reason we lost”. What game was that? I don’t really believe that

    5) why should he help negotiate t.o’s contract. He’s not his agent and it’s none f his business. All TO did was throw him under the bus every chance he got. I wouldn’t speak up for that POS either

    6) players hardly ever speak up when a player leave a team because they have to toe the company line and act like they love every move the team makes. They do that because they’re scared to get cut. but Dawkins, trotter, westbrook always speak up on Donovans behalf. ALWAYS, and their leaders on the team

    7) he never said he didn’t have a good rb or wr’s his whole career, which he didn’t. The tv personalities are the ones who say that. Donovan never once publicly complained about anyone.
    8) so I appreciate the response but not one fact where he threw someone under the bus. Just people twisting and reading into comments and making it whatever they want it to mean

  47. packerzman says: Aug 14, 2011 12:19 PM

    as a Packers fan i hope McNabb does succeed in Minny…not to the extent of winning the division mind you…but the Vikings HAVE to have a successful season to stop all the BS talk of not getting a new stadium and leaving for California.The NFC North is quickly becoming one of the most talented and competitive divisions in football and quite honestly the season wouldn’t be the same without the Packers/Vikings rivalry.

  48. laeaglefan says: Aug 14, 2011 12:21 PM

    I predict that McNabb will have a horrible year, the Vikings will have a horrible year, and McNabb, realizing that he’ll never get another starting job, will retire after the 2011 season.

  49. brewdogg says: Aug 14, 2011 12:28 PM

    I love all the hate….it’s funny in its ignorance.

    “aging defense” – because replacing 4 starters with younger players naturally leads to the conclusion that the D is aging. Hey moron, they have 2 DL, 2 LB, and 1 DB who have played 6 seasons or more currently on the roster, and one of the LBs is a special teamer.

    “depleted dline” – Ummmmm……two were showed the door, one was signed, and they drafted two. By my count, there have 2 PBers, one good starter, one good rotational guy-turned starter, and 4 promising youngsters behind them.

    “depleted oline” – Wow, you must really think McKinnie is great. Since he’s the only OL that is gone….. And with one FA signed and two drafted, it obviously is lacking in personnel.

    “Peterson is declining” – HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Oh yes, the 5th year back posted 147 yards and 1 TD less than his career average last year, the first time he has NOT rushed for 1300 yards (he only got 1298). Stick a fork in him.

    Keep it coming, by all means….. the laughs are great.

  50. kspl1 says: Aug 14, 2011 12:29 PM

    @phillyhouse222

    I agree with u, I’m not saying he’s elite anymore either although I’m hoping he has a great year as long as they don’t play the eagles. But I followed the team since before he was there. They were horrible, he gets there and they were contenders every year, I appreciate the winning and how he was always a professional and represented our city well. That’s why I dont understand all the hate for him. He simply doesn’t deserve it, it makes zero sense

  51. mrvikingsfan11 says: Aug 14, 2011 12:38 PM

    Just wait till the season and the Vikes will be together and start to quiet all the Pecker fans out there, look at them the Browns rolled over them also against the packs starters, so I bet they are all saying it just preseason, that’s right it is so any comment saying McNabb sucks, or poor Vikings fans or a Vikings are going to be bad don’t know any thing about football, maybe they should go watch chess instead, it moves slower most the time and they will be able to catch on better.lol

  52. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 14, 2011 12:40 PM

    It’s kinda early but it sure seems like they’ve got some decent back-up QBs on the roster and no starters.

  53. thephantomstranger says: Aug 14, 2011 12:51 PM

    All the whining about McNabb is meaningless to me as a Viking fan. He isn’t here to lead us to the Super Bowl, he’s here as a one-year bridge to Ponder. The team will be improved from last season with or without McNabb.

  54. crubenst says: Aug 14, 2011 12:57 PM

    Same old McNabb. God forbid he be self critical or demand more from himself.

  55. biggsull08 says: Aug 14, 2011 12:59 PM

    McNabb is on the bottle again, I wonder what beer he’s been drinking, I need somethat stuff to make my own reality dis illusioned too. I remember him being drunk in a Tampa Bay game a few years ago and him throwing up during the middle of a series. LOL.

  56. funkydunkleman says: Aug 14, 2011 1:26 PM

    For a team with several new offense additions, a new offensive coodinator, and two QB’s who weren’t there last year, how high can your expectations be for the first preseason game?

    McNabb looked great from what little we saw of him. You can tell he knows these receivers well considering he’s been playing with them for less than 2 weeks.

    Webb looked very shaky. He’s still a guy who will run when there’s space to do so. However T-Jack did this in his 4th year, so he has time to improve that.

    Ponder I thought looked great. The sacks were just bad o-line play. His throws were on target, and he would have converted a 4th down in the redzone if the receiver hadn’t dropped the pass. He was great throwing on the run.

    People put way to much emphasis on stats in the preseason. I throw them out. You have to watch these games to know the real story.

    People see 3 pts put up by Minnesota and think their offense was awful. Truth was they looked very solid, but couldn’t keep drives going long enough to get scores. Watch this team against Seattle next week. At least 2 scores will be put up by the offense.

  57. luckynumberlucas says: Aug 14, 2011 1:40 PM

    Viks offense is where it needs to be…

    On the bench, after 3 downs?

  58. richm2256 says: Aug 14, 2011 2:07 PM

    phillyhouse222 says:
    I’ve made it my personal “crusade” to defend McNabb when these unjust criticisms are thrust upon him.
    ——————————————————–

    Really???

    You have a “personal crusade”??? And THIS is it????

    What are you, twelve?

    I’m 55, live a fairly well adjusted life (except for posting on football blog regualrly) and I don’t have a “personal crusade” …..

    there must be something wrong with me.

  59. legendaryjedeye says: Aug 14, 2011 2:10 PM

    Mcnabb’s job this year consists of, run play to AP up the middle, run play to AP to the left, run play to AP to the right. Also, AP drops back to pass lol. Mcnabb might be benched by mid season, and as a Eagles fan, we know Mcnabb best.

  60. badfish6907 says: Aug 14, 2011 2:17 PM

    sdw2001 says: Aug 14, 2011 11:01 AM

    The windows is closing, but you’re wrong elsewhere. Favre would have won them a SB were it not for the fumbles in the NFC championship. His INT at the end was unfortunate, but it wouldn’t have mattered without the five fumbles (or whatever).

    As for Peterson, there is no real evidence he’s declining. He’s also only 26 years old and in his 5th season. RB’s don’t have much of a shelf life, but 26? Please.

    I agree though that they are not going to be a real contender. Especially with McNutts at QB.
    ———————————————————–
    I know the fumbles were a big part of that loss, but the bottom line is that Favre was the guy with ball in his hands at the end of the game with a legit shot to win. Nobody is going to remember the five fumbles. They will remember Favre throwing a pass across his body into Tracy Porters chest. As a Packer fan I told the Viking fans that I know to temper their enthusiasm. As good as Brett was in the regular season, the last ten years of his Green Bay career were filled with disappointing playoff games. At least you guys got a good one out of him against the Boys.

    I do agree though that the idea that Peterson is declining is pretty out there. The dude is a beast and until he shows legit signs of slowing down, I am going to nervous whenever he lines up against the Pack.

  61. kennyrogerschicken says: Aug 14, 2011 2:37 PM

    brewdogg -

    It’s going to be a long season for you probably ending in a 4 – 12 record, at which point the rest of the NFC North will be laughing right along with you. I’m sure you’ll still think it’s funny, right?

  62. kennyrogerschicken says: Aug 14, 2011 2:42 PM

    mrvikingsfan11 -

    Who are the Peckers? Are they a team or something?

    Well, whoever they are, I’m sure they’ll beat the Vikings this year just like every other team.

  63. johnnyb216 says: Aug 14, 2011 2:43 PM

    I would not like the sound of that if I was a Viking fan. I don’t like to hear any player satisfied with a performance. Especially a mediocre one.

  64. moochzilla says: Aug 14, 2011 2:52 PM

    kspl,

    @moochzilla

    “…last year Vick and Reid said the same thing that some players showed Their youth. No one twisted their words.”

    When did they say that? And how were McNabb’s words “twisted”?

    3) “…I don’t remember Donovan saying that though.”

    Postgame interview. You missed it. I guess we’ll ignore McNabb digging them into such a hole, and missing a wide open Westbrook on the final drive.

    4) I don’t recall him saying “I wasn’t the only reason we lost”.

    Heard the sound clip on WIP, will find out. Could you ever imagine Manning or Brady saying that?

    5) why should he help negotiate t.o’s contract. He’s not his agent and it’s none f his business. All TO did was throw him under the bus every chance he got. I wouldn’t speak up for that POS either

    He shouldn’t, but then he went to bat for Westbrook. You knew Owens was crazy, so the “leader of the team” has to keep him from exploding. As opposed to poling him with a stick. That was the bargain the team and players made when TO came in. And McNabb made a ton of money off of TO’s success.

    6) “players hardly ever speak up when a player leave a team because they have to toe the company line…”

    Not one word on or off the record. No leaks. Enthusiasm for the new QB. When Owens was gone you had half the team express their regret via leaks to the media. We know this.

    7) he never said he didn’t have a good rb or wr’s his whole career, which he didn’t. The tv personalities are the ones who say that. Donovan never once publicly complained about anyone.

    Donovans nods his head in agreement. When he was introdiced as a Redskin he made a huge deal out of having a running game. Look at the tape.

    The Youth comment was clearly throwing the receivers under the bus. If you can’t see that, you’re willfully delusional.

  65. moochzilla says: Aug 14, 2011 2:54 PM

    ksl,

    Plus, you admit he threw the defense under the bus. You just think, by your comment, that it was justified.

    But that’s still throwing people under the bus.

    Again, would either Manning or Brady do that? Romo? Ryan? Rivers? Brees?

    He’s a one of a kind. A leader who no one will follow.

    Look at Vick on the sideline. That’s a leader, they all rally to him. I never saw McNabb get that kind of response. And neither did you.

  66. moochzilla says: Aug 14, 2011 3:03 PM

    phillyhouse…

    1. “Maybe he shouldn’t have co-signed …”

    That makes no difference. The action was the same.

    2. “…McNabb rarely cost us games.”

    Oh, really? Lookit, QB gets to much credit for wins and too much blame for losses. He embraced the former, played the martyr when it came to the latter. That’s a major character flaw and anti-classy.

    3. “Still, that doesn’t make McNabb a “bad guy.”

    Never said he was. But it makes him a C- leader. Which is why no one ever complains about him leaving.

    4. McNabb did not lobby for Owens. That was debunked. And Owens was crazy, but you knew that when you signed him. Everyone had to placate him. A SB was at stake.

    5. “Besides, what should he do?”

    I’d have burned the stadium down. But I don’t market myself as a “team leader” who’s “classy”. Like McNabb does.

    6. He never worked on the in-game plan like Manning did on the sidelines. But neither did Reid. So it could be systematic.

    7-8. That was Asante Samuel, who I believe was trying to get traded to Arizona in the post-game congrats.

    9. How about his press conference in DC, when he implied he was never on a team with a running game. It was one of his unfunny jokes.

    I cheered for him and defended him for years, wanted to see him succeed. But I never got why people, despite the evidence, saw him as classy and therefore above criticism. Why? Because he never got arrested? Well, neither does Romo or Owens. And we’d kill them if they did stuff like McNabb did.

  67. mrvikingsfan11 says: Aug 14, 2011 4:01 PM

    Kennyrogerschicken: I think you know who I’m talking about when I say the peckers, maybe I should have put the words Green Bay in front of the word so your tiny brain could have understood it, anyways your turd green team isn’t going to beat us twice this year, it will be a split at best for both of our teams, now go eat some chicken Kenny Rogers!!!!

  68. brewdogg says: Aug 14, 2011 6:33 PM

    kennyrogerschicken says:
    Aug 14, 2011 2:37 PM
    brewdogg -

    It’s going to be a long season for you probably ending in a 4 – 12 record, at which point the rest of the NFC North will be laughing right along with you. I’m sure you’ll still think it’s funny, right?
    ————————————-

    That would be funny. It would also be historic. You see, if your prediction were to somehow come true, it would be the first time that the Vikings have followed a losing record with a worse one since the merger. Granted, it also happened in ’62 and ’67, but they have only posted 9 losing records since ’67. They might be short a few trophies, but at least they have never been perennial losers.

  69. phillyhouse222 says: Aug 14, 2011 7:07 PM

    Moochzilla:

    We have to “agree to disagree”. Like a guy said earlier, before McNabb, the Eagles didn’t do much of anything. Sure you had the Reggie White years, but they didn’t go deep into the playoffs.

    With McNabb the Eagles always had a chance, despite having a less than stellar offense.

    You criticize McNabb for not being able to handle criticism. But what other QB has gotten as much unwarranted scrutiny as McNabb? He gets booed by 40 dopes from WIP on draft day. Rush Limbaugh’s retarded commentary was totally from left field. Then he had B Hop and the president of the Philly NAACP chiming in with their nonsense. Brian Baldinger and Bill Romonowski gave their .02. And finally, you had the uninformed meathead fans who were quick to point out McNabb’s “wormkillers”, but slow to give him credit for his low interception rate.

    I’m glad we have Vick in the present. I wish McNabb well, until the Vikes play the Eagles.

  70. brazenlucidity says: Aug 14, 2011 7:21 PM

    Lotsa hate on the vikes, but not much intelligent commentary.

    I’d hoped for better, but then why should I have?

    Call me old-school, but if all you’ve got is smack to talk, you should shut your trap. I guess some people just like the sound of their own voices. Just like some prissy little 5 year old.

    We don’t know much yet. Any fan of the NFL knows this. Why the trash talk? Trying to compensate for something?

  71. vikefan says: Aug 14, 2011 7:50 PM

    play calling was much better & balanced compared to previous 5 years, that said, o-line, d-line, & secondary looked like complete sh__! granted 93 & 69 did not start on d-line, but if that is all our depth has to offer, better start raiding other rosters again. all 3 qbs running from line half of game, D could not get a 3 & out, then start putting hands on hips after 3 first downs, seriously? WTF!! not in condition or winning mode yet. McNabb and recievers on same page, rest of team better show up fast.

  72. moochzilla says: Aug 14, 2011 9:58 PM

    Phillyhouse, it’s not “hate” it’s just that I have an issue with people (a) blowing things out of proportion, (b) buying into McNabb’s self-promoted / perpetuating martyrdom.

    You offer some prime examples…

    1) “But what other QB has gotten as much unwarranted scrutiny as McNabb?”

    I lived in NYC and Eli was basically called the special needs Manning brother, and was trashed by Tiki in public. He didn’t hang himself on a cross, he won a Super Bowl.

    Peyton was killed for years as incapable of winning the big one. He never cried. He kept at it and won. Same with Dirk Nowitzki. Did you ever hear him whining about the scrutiny?

    I was in Boston the week after they lost to the Jets. Brady was trashed as having lost focus due to Giselle. They were ripping the hair and ugg boots.

    McNabb isn’t even tops in Philly in terms of unwarranted scrutiny. Cole Hamels is. Cole didn’t hang himself on a cross or throw a decade-long pity party. He won a World Series MVP! And he was still booed his first start by bad fans, and he just blew it off and went back out. That’s a man.

    2) He gets booed by 40 dopes from WIP on draft day.

    That was a paid radio stunt that 99.9% of the fans had nothing to do with and 95% found repulsive. Yet, McNabb and his mommy and daddy NEVER let anyone forget that day! He used it to further his passive-aggressive narrative.

    Reggie Miller was booed on draft day because they wanted Damon Bailey in a Pacers uniform. Didn’t know that, did you? You know why…because Reggie never mentioned.

    3) Rush Limbaugh’s retarded commentary was totally from left field. Then he had B Hop and the president of the Philly NAACP chiming in with their nonsense.

    No doubt. But I believe the NAACP dude was angry over the “black on black crime” comment, which trivialized a city-wide problem of great tragedy. That was , actually, when McNabb “lost” me as a fan. Rush and B Hop are dopes.

    How about A-Rod? After his milestone HR (500?) the New York Daily News headline read: “Congrats on your tainted record”. He said nothing. McNabb and his mommy and daddy would have combusted.

    4) Brian Baldinger and Bill Romonowski gave their .02.

    Baldinger said McNabb didn’t like to listen to coaching, because he cannot take criticism. Subsequent events in DC (wristband and battle with Kyle) support the claim. As does the fact that McNabb has several deficiencies that never improved after a decade in the league.

    5) And finally, you had the uninformed meathead fans who were quick to point out McNabb’s “wormkillers”, but slow to give him credit for his low interception rate.

    Happens all the time, fans isolate a players flaws and ignore their srengths because they get spoiled. Most notably with Mike Schmidt and Ryan Howard. Mike cried about it once then realized it only made it worse. Howard has never said anything about idiot fans suggesting he be platooned against LHP’s.

    I do respect your core message – but what McNabb faced aside from #3 (none of which involved Philly fans) is COMMONPLACE in sports among superstars. Does that make it right? No, but that’s life and why the QB gets the big bucks.

    You play in Philly, Boston, NY…it’s tough. It isn’t for everyone. But it’s a fact of life.

  73. paulharghis says: Aug 15, 2011 8:52 PM

    scudbot says:
    Aug 14, 2011 9:51 AM
    bobnelsonjr says: “It is going to take the vikings years to aquire the players needed to compete in the NFL.” Agreed. But first the Vikes have to acquire someone who’s capable of finding and hiring player personnel staff that’s competent and a GM who doesn’t hose up the draft. But here’s some good news: the Packers have to get rid of up to 37 players pretty soon
    ========================
    Why do you even ponder posting?
    This isn’t MJS online, this PFT.

    I’m not going to through all the players that are homegrown on this roster, but they have 2 ROY players they drafted on offense.
    Favre-via jets
    Sharper, Longwell, Ferguson for a 1/2 season.

    Yeah, they sure have picked up a lot of Ex packers in the last 2o years haven’t they?

    It’s old and stupid. It’s also ignorant. But, I shouldn’t be suprised. It’s a common trait of your fanbase.

  74. ejmat2 says: Aug 16, 2011 7:09 PM

    It’s pretty funny how this guy gets so much criticism. I mean after all he’s only led his team to 5 NFCCGs in 12 years. Who was the last QB to do that? In addition, how many weapons did he have?

    Give the guy a break. Last year he played in an offense that he has never played in before. I’d rather see how he does before I start criticizing the guy for no reason.

  75. spawn201 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:15 AM

    Vikes will make the playoffs this year book it.

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