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What we learned: Texans 20, Jets 16


We’ve already recapped what we learned from all the preseason games on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.  Let’s wrap up the first week of the preseason with a look at Monday Night’s action.

1. The transition to outside linebacker could take some time for former No. 1 overall pick Mario Williams.  The Texans pass rusher did not look comfortable when he played in space.

2. The Jets’ offensive line depth looks shaky.  Backup center Rob Turner went down to injury, and Vladimir Ducasse struggled badly as a reserve tackle during the game.

New York will get Nick Mangold and Brandon Moore back from injury, but they had higher hopes for Ducasse, a second round pick from a year ago.  Turner is a key reserve.

3. Texans running back Derrick Ward also left with an injury. Houston’s top four running backs are now all hurt.  None of them have serious injuries, but this has become a troubling camp issue for Houston.

4. It was a brief appearance, but Texans first round pick defensive end J.J. Watt looked like a guy ready to start right away.

5. Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez didn’t show up to the game in this outfit. He did look sharp completing 6-of-7 passes for 43 yards.

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61 Responses to “What we learned: Texans 20, Jets 16”
  1. trbowman says: Aug 15, 2011 11:41 PM

    What I learned –

    Rex still has his potty mouth.

    Reading his lips when Campbell dropped that TD – “Catch the fu***** football.”

  2. crom1016 says: Aug 15, 2011 11:44 PM

    We learned that once again the Jets offense cant punch it in. 1 for 3 in the red zone. Wicked bad

  3. goawayeverybody says: Aug 15, 2011 11:46 PM

    Brooks Reed looked awesome. Like a doppelganger for Clay Matthews at times.

  4. cowboysfan18 says: Aug 15, 2011 11:46 PM

    Wade Phillips is a really good D coordinator and will make this team competitive. Also, did I see stone hands Greene catch a pass? I guess they might try to gradually expand his role with LT taking less snaps.

  5. blackandpurple52 says: Aug 15, 2011 11:48 PM

    what i learned. greg mcelroy is better than mark sanchez, rex ryan gets way too excited, oh and yea I almost forgot J-E-T-S SUCK SUCK SUCK

  6. 1nyj says: Aug 15, 2011 11:48 PM

    What I’ve learned:

    Gregg Rosenthal rarely reads his work before hitting enter. I must say though, I’m still a fan. Even though he’s a filthy f*cking Pats fan. 🙂

  7. Chairman Al says: Aug 15, 2011 11:51 PM

    In NO way am I a Patriots or Jets fan, but what is the point of a Rex Ryan “guarantee” to the Super Bowl if there are no consequences? How is it a guarantee if you’re wrong, and all you say is “well next year, I guarantee it!” again?

    Some New England charity should call Ryan out and have him donate half a mil or so if doesn’t come through on his guarantee. That way, either Rex is finally right, or there’s some punishment for running his mouth and being wrong, and a good cause would reap the benefits.

  8. realitypolice says: Aug 15, 2011 11:52 PM

    Ryan made a fool of himself before half time ripping his head set off while standing in the middle of the field trying to call time out because his “best in the league” special teams led by demi-god Mike Westhoff couldn’t count to 11.

    Cue all the slobbering Jet homers telling me how they love his enthusiasm.

    He looked like a drunken construction worker at happy hour with his shirt hanging open and his hat and headset laying on the ground while he clumsily tried to pick everything up as his belly prevented him from actually being able to reach the ground.

    Anyone who thinks this trailer trash reject actually represents New York has never been there.

  9. birdobeamen says: Aug 15, 2011 11:55 PM

    What I learned….

    ……Greg McElroy thinks you’re allowed to run up to the First Down marker before throwing the ball.


  10. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: Aug 15, 2011 11:55 PM

    That was a stinkaroo of a football game. I don’t blame Rex Ryan for slamming his headset on the field. Sloppy execution on both sides.

  11. chowface86 says: Aug 16, 2011 12:01 AM

    Who cares… Matt Leinart will make every owner in this league kick themselves in the scrote.

  12. depotnator says: Aug 16, 2011 12:02 AM

    I thought Rex was saying ” The Turk has your pink slip”

  13. mnfaninaz says: Aug 16, 2011 12:06 AM

    What we learned was Larry Fitzgerald is coming home.

    Trade Adrian Peterson to the Cowboys tomorrow. Save that money and pay Larry Fitzgerald.

    Bring the hometown boy… home.

    When we open that new billion dollar stadium… that young man should be the crown jewel!

    Fitz>>>>>>> A.P.

  14. wiscnsnpatfan says: Aug 16, 2011 12:07 AM

    What we learned? The Jets are in big f#%kin trouble.

  15. iamgoodkid says: Aug 16, 2011 12:12 AM

    lol maybe the dolphins could defend jets in the second week of the reg season

  16. waldoampere says: Aug 16, 2011 12:13 AM

    What were you expecting a football coach to say when he just watched his WR drop the winning TD pass? “Gosh, try and catch the ball next time.”

  17. freaku2011 says: Aug 16, 2011 12:16 AM

    McElroy looked good for a rookie, it’ll be interesting to see him progress. Wasn’t he a 7th rounder? Powell and Turner also looked good and Kerley looked electrifying. Ducasse is a waste, all jelly.

  18. jdandcoke says: Aug 16, 2011 12:17 AM

    what i learned: despite rex and woody’s best efforts, the giants are still the football kings of NY, as they always will be. is anyone actually surprised?

  19. senordickhaus says: Aug 16, 2011 12:27 AM

    Between the ridiculous body weight and the blood pressure that’s higher than the Burj al Arab, I’m sure Rex is trying to win his ring now because it’s hard to coach a football team when you lose your feet from diabetes.

  20. cup1981 says: Aug 16, 2011 12:29 AM

    The transition to outside linebacker could take some time for former No. 1 overall pick Mario Williams. The Texans pass rusher did not look comfortable when he played in space.


    Taking a 6’6″, 290-pound DE and changing him to OLB will definitely result in some “growing pains.” I think the guy could play a 3-4 DE, he’s not much smaller than the average 3-4 DE.

  21. sf987 says: Aug 16, 2011 12:31 AM

    6. Jets QBs are great at completing three yard passes

  22. justentertainingthestupid says: Aug 16, 2011 12:33 AM

    1 Patriots
    2 Dolphins
    3 New Jersey

  23. suckittrebek76 says: Aug 16, 2011 12:35 AM

    This Mario Williams playing OLB kinda reminds me of the Aaron Kampann situaion in GB. I think Houston made their best pass rusher less effective.

  24. damnskins703 says: Aug 16, 2011 12:44 AM

    Trbowman so what is he not allowed to curse now…

    Rex Ryan is a great coach and players like to play for him, you can’t say that about too many coaches out there

  25. rethinklogic says: Aug 16, 2011 12:49 AM

    What I learned week one:
    After the first three minutes, pre season football is almost as bad as watching the wnba.

  26. drgfri says: Aug 16, 2011 12:52 AM

    I learned that Rex is still quite obese. That’s the trouble with Lap Bands, you can’t magically keep the weight off if you talk a good game but fail to deliver the results in the end. Jets are doomed!

  27. doctorfootball says: Aug 16, 2011 1:08 AM

    Schaub had absolutely no rhythm. Sanchez looked good. But, he didn’t really attempt many difficult throws. I know the Jets offense loves those slants, but I would have liked to see if he could throw deep once or twice. Mario Williams looked completely lost as a linebacker.

  28. opie333 says: Aug 16, 2011 1:11 AM

    I thought Greg McElroy looked ok. I think he will make a great Back up to develop. Even If he is probably going to be a 3rd stringer. I would rather have him than Colin Kaepernick or Andy Dalton. He comes from winning schools Southlake Carroll and Alabama. You could tell he was well coached before he got there. As the 208th overall pick, I think they got there moneys worth.

  29. cletusvandam says: Aug 16, 2011 1:41 AM

    I learned the Jets would have been better off drafting Moe or Larry. Kerly looked like a bum against 2nd and 3rd string.

  30. gosuhgo says: Aug 16, 2011 1:56 AM

    Looked sharp checking down? It’s easy to complete 6/7 when he’s averaging 7 yards a play.

  31. brohamma says: Aug 16, 2011 1:56 AM

    “The Jets’ offensive line depth looks shaky.”

    Sanchez realized this when New England picked up Haynesworth. With Wilfork and Haynesworth in the middle.. they are going to make quarterbacks with interior o-line issues pay.

    The Jets better fix this if they want to keep Sanchez in one piece.

  32. nekelund says: Aug 16, 2011 2:02 AM

    From a future post-game Jets-Patriots column:

    “Mark Sanchez, born November 11, 1986, died yesterday as a result of repeated sackings by the entire Patriots defence, culminating in his being stomped upon and eaten by Albert Haynesworth. Police are currently investigating the members of the Jets offensive line as none of them can account for their whereabouts or activities during the death of their quarterback.”

  33. rectumnearlykilledem says: Aug 16, 2011 2:14 AM

    What I learned? The Jets are gonna take a step back this season. But let’s be honest, they got pretty lucky the past two seasons anyway.

  34. 1990tiger says: Aug 16, 2011 2:18 AM

    Greg McElroy needs to learn where the line of scrimmage is……

  35. quiettexan says: Aug 16, 2011 3:04 AM

    how do you make this post and not mention 7 sacks in wade phillips’ first game as texans d coordinator.

  36. rectumnearlykilledem says: Aug 16, 2011 3:16 AM

    I think we also learned that Hoyer or Mallet would probably be the Number One QB in NY if either was with the Jets.

  37. tlight131 says: Aug 16, 2011 3:23 AM

    Why is 6’6 285 Mario Williams playing linebacker?? Here Shaq you play point guard this season.

  38. patpatriotagain says: Aug 16, 2011 3:29 AM

    What we really learned: Sanchez 6 for 7, but in order to get his completions above 60%, he had only 6 yards per attempt against a subpar defense. that won’t get it done. strictly dumpoffs don’t win games here.

  39. alonestartexan says: Aug 16, 2011 4:24 AM

    Texans Defense looked vastly improved to last years..

  40. georgeanderson2 says: Aug 16, 2011 4:41 AM

    The Jets if at all possible should continue developing Patrick Turner. He might just turn out to be a reliable guy for some years to come. Its only preseason but he has improved alot from when the Dolphins drafted and cut him.

  41. dladd79 says: Aug 16, 2011 5:53 AM

    Lol big shocker Mario Williams might have trouble playing in space.

  42. RexCanCoach says: Aug 16, 2011 6:39 AM

    Whoa boy! Sanchez 6-7 and his only incompletion hit the TE between the numbers.

    Stop the press if our pal Sanchez begins to actually resemble an NFL QB in the regular season. Then the Jets could actually HOST the AFC championship this year wow.

  43. RussianBreadMaker says: Aug 16, 2011 7:11 AM

    What we learned: the jets can talk a big game, but they can’t back it up.

  44. Patriot42 says: Aug 16, 2011 7:31 AM

    The Jets reflect the citizens of New York as they boast of living in the big apple but in reality are a bunch of idiots.

  45. giantspunk213 says: Aug 16, 2011 7:41 AM

    Moving Mario to LB was a terrible idea, you take your most effective powerhouse defensive end who was your only source of getting sacks and pressure on the QB and you move him to LB? Put him opposite of Watt and stop this dumb LB experiment

  46. RexCanCoach says: Aug 16, 2011 8:14 AM

    Jets will go 6-0 in division this year.

  47. waldoampere says: Aug 16, 2011 8:40 AM

    “What we learned: the jets can talk a big game, but they can’t back it up.”

    The Jets lost their first practice game after playing their starters for a quarter and not having two of their OLineman including their Pro Bowl center. OMG, the season is lost!!! Are you kidding me?

  48. geauxjay says: Aug 16, 2011 8:44 AM

    What we learned: ESPN treated this game like they were a New York affiliate. They barely recognized that the Texans were even playing. Except for (of course) their pet backup quarterback from USC.

  49. steeelfann says: Aug 16, 2011 8:48 AM

    Will Rex Ryan and/or Sanchez ever just shut up already?

    Go twinkle some feet, nobody cares about your exaggerations.

  50. scubasteve4930 says: Aug 16, 2011 8:54 AM

    Sanchez went 6-7….

    I could do that too if all i had to do was throw the ball at a maximum of 8 yards down the field.

    Helloooo captain checkdown

  51. m2karateman says: Aug 16, 2011 9:18 AM

    No way should Mario Williams be playing OLB in Wade’s defense. With his size and speed, he’s going to have to be double teamed and that will free up someone on the outside. Put Mario at DE with JJ Watt on the other side and you’ve got the makings of a pretty lethal combination. Brooks Reed is exactly what I thought he was when he declared, and they got a BARGAIN when the Texans drafted him with the 42nd pick. He should have gone somewhere between 20 and 26.

    Strong draft, good FA signings…the Texans could be a force this season. Good luck to them. Not a Houston fan, but I like seeing different teams emerge from the shadows.

  52. drunkendegenerate says: Aug 16, 2011 9:25 AM

    What I’ve learned:

    50% of the responses on any Jets related blog are from ignorant, post 2001 Patriots fans that truly have no clue what they are talking about.

    “Tainted Lombardis: The Legacy of Bill Bellichick’s Patriots”

    New York Metropolitan Area > Boston

  53. spharrgcs says: Aug 16, 2011 9:38 AM

    Thought Leinert looked much better. He’s lost weight clearly and moves better, and no longer waits 20 minutes to make a decision to throw. Seattle would be wise to make a move for him.

  54. spharrgcs says: Aug 16, 2011 9:39 AM

    What we learned: The Jets are 1 key injury away from 8-8. They are due for step backwards anyway.

  55. drizzo76 says: Aug 16, 2011 9:48 AM

    Texans should sign Portis as insurance. He’s still got some games left in him.

  56. scubasteve4930 says: Aug 16, 2011 10:11 AM

    Playoffs are a serious stretch for the jets this year. They could easily go 8-8, 7-9.

    And the Texans gotta put mario back on the DL…with that kind of production, how can you take him out of his mold!??

  57. bpearse230 says: Aug 16, 2011 10:54 AM

    We’re not going to learn a whole lot from the first preseason game especially after only two weeks of practice. But what I did learn is that Ducasse has not improved over last year and should be released immediately. I know he is a backup but he is going to get someone killed if they keep playing him in preseason games, and keeping players healthy is the only stat that matters in the preseason. For those of you making projections off of one preseason game…. get a life…. 2008 Detroit Lions, 4-0 in the preseason…..0-16 in the regular season. Sanchez looked decent and got out before Ducasse turnstiled again.

  58. bpearse230 says: Aug 16, 2011 10:58 AM

    spharrgcs says:

    “What we learned: The Jets are 1 key injury away from 8-8. They are due for step backwards anyway.”

    Thanks Capt Obvious. You can pretty much insert any key player from any contender and say the same thing. Let’s try it…

    The Eagles (Vick) are 1 key injury away from 8-8.
    The Colts (Manning)
    The Patriots (Brady)
    The Steelers (Big Ben)
    The Ravens (Flacco)
    The Falcons (Ryan)
    The Saints (Brees)
    The Bucs (Freeman)

    Are you one of those people who thinks its brilliant analysis when the announcer says that the team who scores the most points will probably win?

  59. batterychucker says: Aug 16, 2011 11:00 AM

    Guys, don’t see this game as a total bust for the Jets. I’m a Texans fan and the Texans are going to be greatly improved this year. Their offense will be Top 5 again, and Wade Phillips will improve their defense greatly. They had 8 sacks in 4 preseason games last year, and they had 7 sacks yesterday. The difference? Last year even with the Jets OL troubles the Texans wouldn’t have had any pressure and the secondary would have been tore up. This year the emphasis on pressure, the scheme changes, and the improved secondary makes for a difference overall. I think the Jets will be just fine this year, but give the Texans credit (unlike the rest of the media) on their improved play.

  60. snakerd says: Aug 16, 2011 11:27 AM

    I’d say a season ending injury to Sanchez is the best thing that can happen to the jets.

  61. tunescribe says: Aug 16, 2011 7:12 PM

    What everyone learned: Wrecks already is in playoff form, blowing up and throwing his headset. And that happened in the first half!

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