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Ndamukong Suh apparently fined $20,000

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We asked over the weekend whether Ndamukong Suh is a dirty player. The NFL at least seems to think that in the Lions’ preseason opener, Suh committed a dirty play.

Suh indicated on Twitter that he was fined $20,000 for his hit on Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton.

There’s been no official announcement of any fine, but Suh’s tweet (“$20,000REALLY???!!”) suggested that the NFL has informed him that’s how much his paycheck will be docked.

Suh might not like it, but the fine was completely appropriate: Suh slammed Dalton to the ground hard after Dalton had already released the ball. And Suh is a repeat offender who delivered the most vicious hit of last year’s preseason when he pummeled Browns quarterback Jake Delhomme.

Last year Suh was fined $7,500 for the hit on Delhomme and then $15,000 for a hit on Jay Cutler. Now he’s at $20,000. We’ll see if this fine gets his attention, or if the NFL slaps Suh with a James Harrison-sized fine next.

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  1. gregm5s7 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:44 PM

    Good.

  2. packersareandwillalwaysbebetterthanthebears says: Aug 17, 2011 12:45 PM

    That’s nothing with the money he makes. If you really want to get a players attention, suspend him. Not saying Suh deserves a suspension, but 20k is pennies to him.

  3. broncobeta says: Aug 17, 2011 12:45 PM

    $7,500 was breakfast.

    $15,000 was brunch.

    $20,000 is lunch.

    I can’t wait to see what’s for dinner.

  4. hobartbaker says: Aug 17, 2011 12:46 PM

    In practice the other day Suh hit a player so hard he ended up with the guy’s jersey draped over his head.

  5. offsideburns says: Aug 17, 2011 12:46 PM

    that’s a lot of bologna sammiches

  6. rc33 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:46 PM

    Dude is a dirty player, period. That hit on Dalton was cheap. Enjoy the ever-increasing fines, pinhead.
    And congrats to Chrysler for having this goon pimping their 300 automotive line.

  7. pnut87 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:47 PM

    *plink

  8. scoops1 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:47 PM

    time to get some more endorsement deals….

  9. buddybowl69 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:47 PM

    “$20,000REALLY???!!” is just his reaction for the bounty that was placed on Rodgers knee.

  10. t16rich says: Aug 17, 2011 12:47 PM

    If you’re going to fine players such ridiculous amounts, than let’s donate the money to charities. Because the NFL really dosnt need the money.

  11. alphaq2 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:48 PM

    Really like Suh and his game, but that hit was definitely excessive.

  12. medtxpack says: Aug 17, 2011 12:48 PM

    James Harrison now has company…

  13. nagidac says: Aug 17, 2011 12:49 PM

    Love Suh, but this fine is deserved.

  14. lioninnj says: Aug 17, 2011 12:49 PM

    Michael are you KIDDING ME!!! Completely appropriate!!!??? Why don’t you ask Mathius Kiwanuka if it’s appropriate? Remember when he thought Vince Young had gotten rid of the ball when he should have slammed him to the ground? Who won that game? Refresh my memory, please. Go put on some pads and make a split second decision in game conditoins, then come back and justify stealing 20K from a guy.

    This game is becoming a joke.

  15. coutre says: Aug 17, 2011 12:49 PM

    Wait until he sacks Peyton. He’ll be suspended for a year.

  16. zoellner25 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:51 PM

    If you are getting fined 20K for hitting a rookie QB in a preseason game, in which stats and scores and everything else don’t count toward anything, you have a problem.

  17. phillyisinvading says: Aug 17, 2011 12:52 PM

    I’d still want him on my team. Guy is a monster.

  18. drstrangelust says: Aug 17, 2011 12:53 PM

    Should have been Suh-spended! ;-)

  19. onedaygm says: Aug 17, 2011 12:54 PM

    gets his attention to do what exactly? stop playing football? i understand all the safety issues at stake but i am a firm believer in that everyone who plays in the NFL knows the risks and understands it is meant to be a very violent game. I feel like the league should penalize for late hits, not vicious hits. That makes no sense to me. Call me old-school, but that is a part of the game; you have a chance to get your world rocked upside down, period.

  20. gallopingghost says: Aug 17, 2011 12:54 PM

    $20,000 is nothing next to medical costs you can inflict with that kind of junkyard play.

    How about some self respect and respect for the sport? Everyone loves violent hits, but your supposed to temper that with a little bit of judgment.

    Better he gets this out of your system in the preseason. Suh is too talented a player to hurt his team (not to mention other athletes) with unecessary roughness penalties.

    Time to grow up, son.

  21. simplesimon1 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:54 PM

    Should fine the refs for not blowing the whistle and Dalton for not doing his chin strap up while they’re at it.

  22. htowntexan13 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:55 PM

    No doubt he’s a dirty player but let’s wait and see what he has to say when offensive linemen start chop blocking and going for his knees.
    They hate to see their QB hurt like that and maybe there will be some retaliation later on this season.

  23. icematrix69 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:55 PM

    Let’s just put skirts on all the QB’s, put flags on all the receivers, and make all defensive players wear slippers so no offensive player dare gscuff a nail…

  24. eaglesfan290 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:55 PM

    Dirty maybe, but the Kid can flat out play, put the money in the cookie jar young man and keep hitting.

    Football is a contact sport, I don’t see any Lions fans complain with that draft chioce!!!!!!

  25. tv426 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:57 PM

    Lion and Steeler fans think that Suh and Harrison are the only tough guys in the NFL. News alert – they are the only two who continue to play outside of the rules. Period.

  26. berniemadoffsides says: Aug 17, 2011 12:58 PM

    He’s not a dirty player at all – he just plays every down as if it was his last and wants to punish QB’s.

  27. daburgher says: Aug 17, 2011 12:59 PM

    The NFL, its fans, and the media are getting SOFT. so sick of hearing about this.. This trend needs to stop before the game is completely ruined.. looking forward to hockey season.

  28. wutliss07 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:59 PM

    pretty soon these guys will leaving the helmets at home and strapping on the flags..

    this is ridiculous…

  29. thephantomstranger says: Aug 17, 2011 12:59 PM

    Somebody better get this guy under control and fast. He’s trying to hurt Andy Freaking Dalton in a preseason game, so what does he want to do to Super Bowl MVP and division rival Aaron Rodgers? If he takes a cheap shot at Rodgers and causes a serious injury, it would be very bad for the league and I would expect a long suspension.

  30. suhisbetterthanu says: Aug 17, 2011 1:00 PM

    ERRONEOUS!! ERRONEOUS, ON ALL ACCOUNTS!!!!

  31. burnzy32 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:01 PM

    if you think a fine was appropriate your uneducated on the game obviously, he had him wrapped up, could not see in that SPLIT SECOND if he had gotten rid of the ball and he FINISHED THE PLAY LIKE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO!!!! Suh keep doing you!!! I’d say appeal the fine but we know who that appeal goes to…..freakin dumb logic to that too

  32. lionpride10 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:02 PM

    I guess the NFL should put the QBs in skirts.

  33. billsfan27 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:03 PM

    Ndamukong “Sue”.

  34. ednacrabapple says: Aug 17, 2011 1:05 PM

    He must be Suh upset about the fine

  35. packerjer says: Aug 17, 2011 1:05 PM

    I’m still not really clear on what was wrong on the Cutler hit, but he’s done this kind of tackle before and he should not be surprised at this fine.

    Eventually he’s going to have to accept the reality that he can’t be doing this stuff. We can lament all we want about the wussification of the league, but the fact of the matter is they’re going their moneymakers (QBs). Understand that and adapt.

    It’s like Chromartie with his 9 kids. After the 4th or 5th kid with a different woman maybe he’d consider maybe not making that mistake anymore? I hope Suh is THAT thick.

  36. pigskinswag says: Aug 17, 2011 1:05 PM

    Dirty or not, Suh has to play smarter. The way the rules are now, you could get 15 yards for brushing a quarterback’s jersey sleeve.

  37. chizzle20 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:05 PM

    Jimmy “Superfly” Suhka!

  38. chacochicken says: Aug 17, 2011 1:06 PM

    So how much are they going to fine Hoge for repeatedly slamming Tim Tebow?

  39. touchdownroddywhite says: Aug 17, 2011 1:06 PM

    I could care less if these hits of his are “dirty”, “vicious” or “anything else”. Boy sure is fun to watch. Just as long as he’s not in the A any time soon.

  40. curtainclosed says: Aug 17, 2011 1:06 PM

    It’s not his fault that Bengal quarterbacks are light, and airy.

  41. pigskinswag says: Aug 17, 2011 1:08 PM

    Somebody better get this guy under control and fast. He’s trying to hurt Andy Freaking Dalton in a preseason game, so what does he want to do to Super Bowl MVP and division rival Aaron Rodgers?
    ___________________________________

    Great point. To add to it, what would happen if division rivals or any other teams retaliate and go after Matthew Stafford? He’s super fragile. He could tear his rotator cuff putting on his cleats.

  42. thatboi901 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:09 PM

    15k for the hit on cutler was just Robbery. He was running with the football!

  43. hedphurst says: Aug 17, 2011 1:09 PM

    $20K is 0.17% of Suh’s average income over his 5-year contract. Fining him that amount for a hit that could potentially cause permanent brain damage, end a career, etc is like fining a guy who makes $50K/year about $85 for reckless endangerment.

    Maybe if there was a policy put in place where players who injure someone with an unnecessarily violent and/or late hit were held personally responsible for any medical bills, rehab costs, and loss of potential income, instead of simply paying the millionaire’s equivalent of a speeding ticket, they’d be a little more careful about these kind of hits.

    On a side note, I just want to say that I don’t really think Suh is dirty player, and I DO think that the league tends to pick on certain high-profile defensive players.

  44. thetooloftools says: Aug 17, 2011 1:10 PM

    I guess the NFL is going to wait till someone gets carted off on a Gator with a career ending injury before they get this guys attention.

  45. opie333 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:11 PM

    Hey guys if you think football is to rough Baseball is still on! What a bunch of BS! Ive got a question where does the fined money go?

  46. 305phinphan says: Aug 17, 2011 1:12 PM

    10 years ago there would have been no fine. I understand player safety but the league is getting soft. Instead of players using their football instincts now they have to stop and think about how they are going to take a player down. The new kickoff rules are bogus as well, what’s next? No player can touch a QB behind the line of scrimmage?

  47. patfanrc says: Aug 17, 2011 1:13 PM

    this sport isnt 4 wimps if they cant take Suh’s intensity then they should either man up or change the name of the sport 2 soccer c

  48. spungy says: Aug 17, 2011 1:15 PM

    The next fine wont be money. He will be force-traded to the Bengals for rehabilitation.

  49. darthhitman says: Aug 17, 2011 1:15 PM

    Never mind the fact that the fine for the Cutler hit was complete BS, Cutler was past the LOS and he 2 hand punched him in the back, SHOW ME THE RULE where that isn’t allowed. As a Lions fan I ask WHERE is the fine that wasn’t layed down on the hit that Stafford had his shoulder separated on his rookie year. He was drilled into the ground, THAT is an offense according to the rule book. As a Lions fan I ask you WHERE is the fine on the hit Shaun Hill broke his forearm against the Giants last year? He broke his arm breaking his fall forward after the defender DOVE AT HIS KNEES…an illegal move. NEITHER of those hits were even as much FLAGGED, let alone fined. Forgive me NFL for telling you to blow me on this hypocrisy. If YOU don’t care enough about our QBs and their well why should we give 2 sh!ts about theirs?

  50. b7p19 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:17 PM

    Interesting. There are a few scared Packers fans in the room…

  51. buddybowl69 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:17 PM

    icematrix69 says:

    “Let’s just put skirts on all the QB’s”
    ==========================

    Romo & shEli are already wearing them.

  52. 13xworldchamps says: Aug 17, 2011 1:19 PM

    These guys know the rules. After the second offense they should start being suspended for games. Until that happens this will continue…..reputations are earned.

  53. jasonbournepe says: Aug 17, 2011 1:19 PM

    I think people throw around the term “beast” a little too zealously….however this freak is an absolute BEAST!! I love his game an how he’s changing the image of the Lions defense.

  54. hedphurst says: Aug 17, 2011 1:19 PM

    0.17% of his average YEARLY income, I meant to say. Even if he doesn’t earn his full contract, he has $40M guaranteed, and $20K is still only 0.25% of that $8M/year average.

  55. vargafamily1 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:21 PM

    On a side note, fine monies should go into a pot a divided amongst the retired players.

  56. ipeefreelyagain says: Aug 17, 2011 1:22 PM

    I tell ya, life ain’t easy for a boy named Suh.

  57. ajknox88 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:22 PM

    It’s whatever. This is just going to P*** him off and hit the QB’s harder. He had 1 instance where it was actually dirty (Delhome) the rest are just cause Suh’s a man among boys and makes the hits look overly violent. You listen to Suh talk in interviews and its completely different than Harrison, Suh isn’t out to hurt people. C’mon people!

  58. fearthewopr says: Aug 17, 2011 1:22 PM

    Suh is smart. He is not Harrison. He wasn’t hitting helmet first or stomping on someone with his cleats. He was letting the qb know ‘you better make sure you know where I am at all times’. Its just a game of chess; to make the other team fear you. Body slamming someone is not going to end a career, leading with your helmet sure can.

    I guarentee suh doesn’t do anything like this when the game matters, he just wants the opposing qb to think he might. :-)

  59. destroyedbydansnyder says: Aug 17, 2011 1:23 PM

    cue the topless photos of Suh with large guns….

  60. ipeefreelyagain says: Aug 17, 2011 1:24 PM

    Also, they do donate the fines to charities, for what it’s worth…

  61. suhnami says: Aug 17, 2011 1:26 PM

    Michael David Smith and ProFootballTalk are the ONLY people in the football world who think this hit was a “dirty” hit. People just simply don’t understand what a “dirty” hit actually entails I think. First, Suh had him wrapped up around the shoulder pads, NOT the head, completely legal hit. His helmet popped off because the kid’s an idiot and didn’t have his chinstrap on tight and another defender (Avril) bumped into him from the opposite direction after Suh had hit Dalton.

    I’ve watched this play live, and replayed multiple times. Suh hit Dalton as he had the ball in his possession still. Because Suh had him wrapped up AROUND THE SHOULDERS (NOT head) and fact that Dalton began to fall back in the direction Suh was coming (opposite the direction in which Suh was trying to tackle him) the “body slam” perspective is what people saw. For all Suh knows Dalton tucked the ball and still has it in his possession. Suh’s job is to take the ball carrier to the ground plain and simple. He plays hard whistle to whistle, and aggressive plays like this are going to happen.

    Plain and simple the only reason behind the fine is because of the appearance of going after Daltons head, and the fact his helmet flew off which made this look like a head hunting…which it WAS NOT.

  62. Slackmo says: Aug 17, 2011 1:27 PM

    Suh deliberately targets facemasks and helmets to grab or deliver blows to and tries to whirl people around by their heads. There has been no era in football history where that was legal.

    If he weren’t such a prominent player he would have accumulated a few ejections already instead of getting away with wrist-slap fines.

    I’d like to see someone like Brandon Jacobs grab Suh by the head and whirl him around a couple times on a blitz pickup.

  63. shaggytoodle says: Aug 17, 2011 1:29 PM

    Hunting Quarterbacks is expensive

  64. Soulman45 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:31 PM

    @@@@@
    All the people down on SUH would love to have him on their team.

  65. gallaghedj311 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:33 PM

    I’d like to see a def lineman pull a bow out of his uniform and stick it on the QBs helmet, puck up the QB and carry him to the sideline.

  66. karlpilkington says: Aug 17, 2011 1:34 PM

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    Definately a dirty hit on Dalton. Some big ugly out there is going to take his knees out and he will be out a couple games or maybe even the season. He better be careful.

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  67. sftitan says: Aug 17, 2011 1:36 PM

    $20,00oReally???!!!

    Yeah, you big ogre.

  68. simplesimon1 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:39 PM

    Slackmo says:

    “Suh deliberately targets facemasks and helmets to grab or deliver blows to and tries to whirl people around by their heads. There has been no era in football history where that was legal. ”

    You must be the biggest idiot I’ve heard comment on here for quite a while.

    First, he never touched his helmet at all on this hit. He was finishing a tackle and had no idea the ball was gone. The helmet came off due to Dalton not having his chin strap done up. Second, he plays hard. There used to be a time when people got into the HOF by playing hard. Lastly, they never blew the whistle until well after he took Dalton down. The refs should get half this fine for being idiots.

  69. martinmayhew4president says: Aug 17, 2011 1:41 PM

    Watch the replay, no whistle was blown until Dalton hit the ground. Dalton threw the ball as he was getting hit.

  70. granadafan says: Aug 17, 2011 1:41 PM

    There’s hard nosed and then there’s dirty. Suh crosses the line. This isn’t the 60s or 70s where clotheslining players or using helmets as weapons was legal. Protecting players is for the better. Those blasting the league should just watch the WWE if they want illegal hits.

  71. jeffp12 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:42 PM

    @t16rich

    All NFL Fines DO go to charity.

  72. klunge says: Aug 17, 2011 1:44 PM

    Slackmo says:
    I’d like to see someone like Brandon Jacobs grab Suh by the head and whirl him around a couple times on a blitz pickup
    ————————————————
    I’m sure you would…but you never will, except in your obviously crack-induced dreams. Jacobs tossing Suh around, so moronic it’s hilarious. Two linemen both his size or better can barely keep him off their QB for 2 seconds. Some RB is going to toss him around by his head, man you are comic gold!

  73. darthhitman says: Aug 17, 2011 1:48 PM

    HEY PFT, Stafford and Vanden Bosch have restructured their contracts to free up cap money…WHERE is the article on that? THAT’S RIGHT…neither of them are named Peyton Manning

  74. neemdaddy13 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:48 PM

    Someone needs to remind this mongrel that this is not pro wrestling. I saw the hit and think the fine should be more like $100K, as this is the third or fourth time he has done this. Quite a player, but he takes it way too far. Play within the rules or God-dell will watch you like a hawk, just ask James “spearhead” Harrison.

  75. m2karateman says: Aug 17, 2011 1:50 PM

    Im not surprised by the fine, but don’t expect Suh to change his ways. I am a Lions fan, and I thought the takedown was excessive. The hit on Cutler was legit and should not have been flagged, let alone fined. And just for the record, Dalton’s helmet didn’t come flying off because Suh took it off, it was loose and the force of his hand coming across Andy’s shoulder simply did the rest.
    Dirty player? I don’t think so…I’ve seen a lot worse not get flagged or fined. But Suh now has been marked, and anything close to being considered an “infraction” will be flagged and fined.

  76. tlight131 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:52 PM

    Not a dirty player, this is football for christ sakes. The ones who played hard, finished every play, went 100% no matter the circumstances are the ones who finish on top. The guy’s the real deal and this is why.

  77. cjs230 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:54 PM

    Same thing used to happen to Shaq. Too big and strong for everyone else, the perception was that he was being too rough on the witty bitty centers on the other teams, so he got called for a foul on every other play.

    Suh is a bad dude, and his hits are definitely violent. That has more to do with the fact that he’s a man amongst boys, and that’s a scary thought in the NFL. The hit was legal, but the visual of Dalton getting sacked and his helmet flying was too terrifying for the NFL not fine him.

    Add Fairley into the mix, along with C Williams, Hill, Vanden Bosch and Avril, and you can bet that Dalton won’t be the last QB getting crushed this season.

    I feel bad for Colt McCoy this week, seems like a nice kid…

  78. houstonpatsfan says: Aug 17, 2011 1:59 PM

    The only way to make fines meaningful is to compute them as a percentage of salary.
    And to all those guys whining about pro football being soft and sissified, just one absolutely legal hit from ANY NFL player would probably change their minds very quickly.

  79. cowboynation919 says: Aug 17, 2011 2:00 PM

    I love the guy’s intensity but he has to learn when to tone it down.

    He better learn quick because if he keeps that up in the season, you cab bet opposing teams will be aiming at Stafford and we all know what happens when you hit him.

    Try doing this against Flacco, or Big Ben and see if those defenses let you qb slide.

    On that note Detroit is on the upside and a big reason is Suh, but somene better have a talk with him or him and Harrison are going to be in a race for fines on the year.

  80. staff2cj4td says: Aug 17, 2011 2:05 PM

    I’m a die hard Lions Fan, have been for 26 years!!…..Suh needs to clean up his act! Notice how Calvin Johnson plays the right way, acts the right way and celebrates the right way? Suh needs to watch some tape of Reggie White, watch how he dominated and did it the right and professional way!

    quick question fellow Lions fans……how would you be reacting if a Cincy d-lineman did this to Stafford? you’d all be calling for the guy to be banned from the league!!

    Suh needs to be told by our coaches to knock off the dirty stuff, the last thing we need is refs flagging us during the regular season when it could go either way!!

  81. jpb12 says: Aug 17, 2011 2:06 PM

    I want this guy on my team!!!

  82. purpleisreallypinkyouknow says: Aug 17, 2011 2:11 PM

    Goon…plain and simple.

    I suppose he needs to let out some aggressions during games though…he even brushes up against Stafford in practice and the Lions QB is probably out for 2-4 weeks.

  83. hamdiggitty says: Aug 17, 2011 2:12 PM

    I guess that’s more money towards his retired fund….lol

  84. jacksaysfu says: Aug 17, 2011 2:13 PM

    Was it cause Im a ginger ????
    Signed ,
    Andy Dalton

  85. klunge says: Aug 17, 2011 2:14 PM

    jpb12 says:
    I want this guy on my team!!!
    ——————————————–
    You and EVERYONE else posting in here, including the haters who are flaming him mainly because he isn’t on their team striking fear into opponents.

  86. michfanman says: Aug 17, 2011 2:16 PM

    Suh has been fined more then once when he shouldnt have been. He hits hard, QB’s arent big and he is. The Dalton play looked ugly cause the kids helmet popped off after he flipped in the air. Suh wants to be “feared” now that he already earned a pro bowl bid. He will be feared by every QB in this league, and it isnt because the Bengals rookie QB looked like a ragdoll. He has a running buddy in the middle of that line and QB’s will be flat on thier back alot this year. You can call him dirty if you want. He isnt, he is aggressive and a manimal.

  87. 3octaveFart says: Aug 17, 2011 2:22 PM

    buddybowl69 says: Aug 17, 2011 1:17 PM

    icematrix69 says:
    “Let’s just put skirts on all the QB’s”
    ==========================
    Romo & shEli are already wearing them.

    How could you possibly forget Brady??

  88. phillyfan4444 says: Aug 17, 2011 2:27 PM

    keep it up i love the way u play!good old time football the way it should be played,just please dont do that to vick,thank god we dont play the lions this year.

  89. Cowboys-Forum says: Aug 17, 2011 2:29 PM

    thetooloftools says:
    Aug 17, 2011 1:10 PM
    I guess the NFL is going to wait till someone gets carted off on a Gator with a career ending injury before they get this guys attention.
    ______________________________
    What? Like Michael Irvin, and what did Eagles fans do while he was being carted off the field, they laughed and taunted him,keep it classy Eagles fans.

  90. steelerfannomatterwhat says: Aug 17, 2011 2:36 PM

    I love it how people here say that Suh plays aggressive but Harrison is a dirty player. Instead of watching the 3 or 4 highlights that were splashed all over the news last year on Harrison, why not sit at a game and watch the 60-70 plays a game that Harrison plays. You would need 4 hands and two feet to count the number of times that Harrison is either punched in the facemask or neck-collarred by a blocker or held. No penalties and no fines there. But I guess that this is just aggressive play.

  91. yooperlionfan says: Aug 17, 2011 2:38 PM

    this is a joke, the whistle didn’t blow til after dalton went down, how many times have you heard “play to the whistle” he never grabbed his head, and he didn’t pick him up and slam him, dalton was still trying to get loose, pulling away, and he pulled the other way and finished the tackle. exactly as he should have. get over it people, this is just another case of goodell playing to the masses.

  92. bengalfannomatterwhat says: Aug 17, 2011 2:41 PM

    Suhnami

    Maybe you should look at the play again suh wrappped him up whistles blow repeatedly and he picked dalton up and drove him to the ground that was the illegal hit not his head hunting that being said i dont think suh is a dirty player just needs to play smart to not hurt his team with penalty yards let alone his wallet

  93. kpow55 says: Aug 17, 2011 2:41 PM

    If the little ginger scrub AD moved quicker there would be no problem.

    Thankfully the Lions don’t play the Pats or Colts this year or Suh would go broke for those hits.

  94. curtainclosed says: Aug 17, 2011 2:42 PM

    Here’s what ya do Lions fans, ya take up a collection, and ya ask him to keep ‘em comin’.

  95. simplesimon1 says: Aug 17, 2011 2:45 PM

    Funny….

    I hear bloggers saying Suh is dirty because of a couple questionable hits (Delhomme was over the top, Dalton was playing to the whistle and not nearly as bad as it looked, and Cutler was no penalty at all, let alone a fine). All of the bloggers are just angry because he’s not on their team.

    Then I hear the analysts from PFT questioning if he plays dirty. Other analysts that have actually played the game, including HOF’ers love the way he plays.

    I find it amusing that all the bloggers and analysts that have never played the game are arguing about if Suh is dirty yet no coach, player (this even includes Delhomme and Dalton), team mate, GM, scout, or anybody else who has ever had anything to actually do with the game says anything about the kid but “wow, that’s how you play the game”.

    So, do me a favor. Find me any quote from any player, coach or GM in the league, or any quote anywhere from any HOF’er that says they think Suh plays dirty.

    “crickets, crickets”

    That’s what I thought haters!!!

  96. steelerfannomatterwhat says: Aug 17, 2011 2:50 PM

    These fines are all bogus. Last year James Harrison and 2 other Steelers hit Vince Young with Harrison getting him up high on the chest (no spearing and no helmet-to-helmet). Young’s legs gave out and all 4 of them tumbled over to the ground awkwardly. Harrison was fined for excessive force on the tackle. Only matter of time before QBs will be wrapped in 400 yards of bubble-wrap before they take the field.

  97. steelerfannomatterwhat says: Aug 17, 2011 2:52 PM

    100% correct. If Suh, just like Harrison, was on some of these fans’ teams, their song would change.

  98. dewalt2990 says: Aug 17, 2011 2:53 PM

    repeat offender…….THATS RIGHT, opposing QBs…..Suh and Fairley are going to make offenses scared of the ball.

  99. steelerfannomatterwhat says: Aug 17, 2011 2:55 PM

    So, do me a favor. Find me any quote from any player, coach or GM in the league, or any quote anywhere from any HOF’er that says they think Suh plays dirty.

    “crickets, crickets”

    That’s what I thought haters!!!

    ————————————-
    Not a hater or a proponent of these fines, but the guy has been in the league for only one year. I doubt that his play will be on the minds of players, coaches, GMs, or even Hall of Famers just yet. Let him finish his second year first.

  100. 28purple4mvp says: Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM

    Interesting. There are a few scared Packers fans in the room

    TOO FUNNY lions fans TOO funny-Not a packer fan but im pretty sure there far from scared of the motor city kitties-your team has done notta sence barry was chased away-Win something first-You guys should. You have the first pick in draft the for the last 20 years you should be a real good football team and you are fielding a nice one but win something besides the first pick in the draft before you run your mouths!!!!!!!!

  101. raidernation3739 says: Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM

    i went to high school with Suh. he won’t stop slaying people please believe. Go Raiders!!

  102. hatesycophants says: Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM

    @simplesimon1,

    Excellent post! The mere suggestion that Suh is dirty is utterly ridiculous and typically Smiff. Why do you suppose Smiff bends over backwards to show that he isn’t a house… frau?

    Go Lions! Go Badgers!

  103. kpow55 says: Aug 17, 2011 3:09 PM

    simplesimon1 says:
    Aug 17, 2011 2:45 PM
    Funny….

    I hear bloggers saying Suh is dirty because of a couple questionable hits (Delhomme was over the top, Dalton was playing to the whistle and not nearly as bad as it looked, and Cutler was no penalty at all, let alone a fine). All of the bloggers are just angry because he’s not on their team.

    Then I hear the analysts from PFT questioning if he plays dirty. Other analysts that have actually played the game, including HOF’ers love the way he plays.

    I find it amusing that all the bloggers and analysts that have never played the game are arguing about if Suh is dirty yet no coach, player (this even includes Delhomme and Dalton), team mate, GM, scout, or anybody else who has ever had anything to actually do with the game says anything about the kid but “wow, that’s how you play the game”.

    So, do me a favor. Find me any quote from any player, coach or GM in the league, or any quote anywhere from any HOF’er that says they think Suh plays dirty.

    “crickets, crickets”

    That’s what I thought haters!!!

    —————

    THANK YOU simplesimon1 ……. case closed, no better argument than that!

  104. spooner97 says: Aug 17, 2011 3:29 PM

    To all you haters and complainers. I can’t wait until he uses your QB as a lawn jart. I love the nastiness this kid plays with and you wish he was on your D-Line.

  105. comeonnowguys says: Aug 17, 2011 3:29 PM

    darthhitman says: Aug 17, 2011 1:15 PM

    Never mind the fact that the fine for the Cutler hit was complete BS, [blah, blah, blah]

    You need to realize that nobody with eyes a brain thinks that hit was dirty. It was one of those that really looked like it live, and absolutely did not when you watched the replay. Bad call.

    Stop trying to pretend that the majority of those who say Suh plays dirty include the non-dirty Cutler hit in with the Dalton and Delhomme hit.

    Those two plays are more than enough for anyone looking to question Suh’s play. Calm down.

  106. RussianBreadMaker says: Aug 17, 2011 3:31 PM

    Pre-2010 draft, I thought this guy had class…apparently not.

  107. hatesycophants says: Aug 17, 2011 3:37 PM

    And another thing, I would be willing to bet that those of you suggesting that Suh “tone it down” would be calling him a jake if he didn’t bring 100% on every play. You play 100% every play until the whistle blows. That is all.

  108. mayfieldroadboy says: Aug 17, 2011 3:42 PM

    @onedaygm says: Aug 17, 2011 12:54 PM
    “gets his attention to do what exactly? stop playing football? i understand all the safety issues at stake but i am a firm believer in that everyone who plays in the NFL knows the risks and understands it is meant to be a very violent game.”

    And football players should realize that this violent game has vicious fines/penalties for violent hits which the league determines to be vicious. The more vicious and intentional the hit, the more the fine or penalty. But fines should not be monetary unless it is a percentage of a player’s game salary, or a suspension without pay.

    The fines should not be given to the league; the money extracted from a player’s salary should be donated to retired players suffering from poor health issues.

  109. dannyjerome0 says: Aug 17, 2011 3:54 PM

    28purple4mvp says:
    Aug 17, 2011 3:08 PM
    Interesting. There are a few scared Packers fans in the room

    TOO FUNNY lions fans TOO funny-Not a packer fan but im pretty sure there far from scared of the motor city kitties-your team has done notta sence barry was chased away-Win something first-You guys should. You have the first pick in draft the for the last 20 years you should be a real good football team and you are fielding a nice one but win something besides the first pick in the draft before you run your mouths!!!!!!!!

    Actually the Lions have only had the first overall pick ONCE in the last thirty years…… Not that the Lions have shown me a good team since Barry left, but still.

  110. danrooneyii says: Aug 17, 2011 3:55 PM

    Roid rage…hehehehehehe.

    In all seriousness, this and the play where he almost took Delhomme’s head off by ripping at his facemask were dirty, flagrant plays. Harrison’s hit on Massoquai and Brees shouldn’t even be mentioned the same category.

  111. demlionsboy says: Aug 17, 2011 3:55 PM

    Buncha sissys in here. Wasn’t even a bad hit. He’s a big dude he bear hugged him and slammed em down. How’s he supposed to know that he didn’t have the ball?

  112. rcali says: Aug 17, 2011 3:55 PM

    He better fix the problem or ESPN is going to stop worshiping him.

  113. philtration says: Aug 17, 2011 3:57 PM

    eaglesfan290 says: Aug 17, 2011 12:55 PM

    Dirty maybe, but the Kid can flat out play, put the money in the cookie jar young man and keep hitting.

    Football is a contact sport, I don’t see any Lions fans complain with that draft chioce!!!!!!
    ====================================

    But they do squeal like a little girl every time another player even breaths on their own made of glass QB.

    The Lions will not win more than 6 games this year.

  114. purpleisreallypinkyouknow says: Aug 17, 2011 4:05 PM

    mayfieldroadboy says:Aug 17, 2011 3:42 PM

    @onedaygm says: Aug 17, 2011 12:54 PM
    “gets his attention to do what exactly? stop playing football? i understand all the safety issues at stake but i am a firm believer in that everyone who plays in the NFL knows the risks and understands it is meant to be a very violent game.”

    And football players should realize that this violent game has vicious fines/penalties for violent hits which the league determines to be vicious. The more vicious and intentional the hit, the more the fine or penalty. But fines should not be monetary unless it is a percentage of a player’s game salary, or a suspension without pay.

    The fines should not be given to the league; the money extracted from a player’s salary should be donated to retired players suffering from poor health issues.
    __________________________________

    It goes to charity….like the 12 other previous posts have mentioned….you donkeys just start watching football…? jesus.

  115. axespray says: Aug 17, 2011 4:10 PM

    thephantomstranger says:Aug 17, 2011 12:59 PM
    “Somebody better get this guy under control and fast. He’s trying to hurt Andy Freaking Dalton in a preseason game, so what does he want to do to Super Bowl MVP and division rival Aaron Rodgers? If he takes a cheap shot at Rodgers and causes a serious injury, it would be very bad for the league and I would expect a long suspension.”

    ….what’s up with Viking fans talking Packer in a non-packer article?

  116. raiderinpa says: Aug 17, 2011 4:48 PM

    Love the fact that this article is about a Lions player, but somehow the Stealers (yeah, I meant to use an ‘a’) fans see it as another opportunity to cry about Harrison… ha, ha, ha, ha…. Good thing there is such a thing as a terrible towel to soak up the tears of their cry-baby fan base…

  117. ottomanismydog says: Aug 17, 2011 4:55 PM

    The Pre-season champion of the world!!! Ndamukong Suuuuuuuuhhhhh!

  118. buzzardpointlookout says: Aug 17, 2011 4:59 PM

    All I hear is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!

    Freaking crybabies.

  119. simplesimon1 says: Aug 17, 2011 5:00 PM

    comonnowguys says:

    “Stop trying to pretend that the majority of those who say Suh plays dirty include the non-dirty Cutler hit in with the Dalton and Delhomme hit. ”

    Stop trying to pretend it’s not included. Are you aware that the league, after reviewing the play over and over and having all analysts say it was a fine hit, still fined him $15K? Were you in here last year with all the Bears fans talking trash about what a cheap shot it was? Did the writer of this story just bring it up again to be used as further evidence of Suh’s dirty playing? Did Cutler come out to the press following the game and say he thought it was dirty and Suh should be fined by the league?

    The answer is “yes” to every single question asked above. So, it is still being used in the same sentence as the other two hits in the last 21 games played and 99% of total defensive snaps. Funny that the fine was also worse than the fine for the actual bad hit on Delhomme. Also funny that out of the three incidents, the only cry baby was Cutler, considering he’s the only one that didn’t actually have a leg to stand on. See you week 5 pansy!!!

  120. simplesimon1 says: Aug 17, 2011 5:05 PM

    philtration says:

    “But they do squeal like a little girl every time another player even breaths on their own made of glass QB.”

    New rule. When you post something idiotic like this you have to say who you cheer for. Second, only idiot fans have anything to cry about with Stafford getting injured. It was a fine play by Peppers. Lastly, stop using “china doll” or “glass” to describe Stafford. Try to come up with your own word. It’s not that hard to do. Watch me give it a go.

    “Jay Cutler is a pansy, cry baby”.

    See, it’s not that hard.

    Good lord. Our own team were the ones that came up with the China Doll comment and everyone else uses it. LOL….. Get a life.

  121. huhfasi says: Aug 17, 2011 5:19 PM

    Dirty hits only come from big time players. You ever notice that Paul Poudslakzasdki (sp?) never gets called a dirty player? Rather he gets called a so-so player who misses tackles? Hmmm….

  122. tlight131 says: Aug 17, 2011 5:48 PM

    But they do squeal like a little girl every time another player even breaths on their own made of glass QB.

    The Lions will not win more than 6 games this year.
    ———————————————————-

    Geee…. That’s funny we won 4 games at the end, two games that we “won” (indicating we got screwed because no one likes Detroit) and we did it with a rotating quarterback field, Lions fans don’t complain, we adjust!

  123. tv426 says: Aug 17, 2011 5:52 PM

    No. Plenty of huge hits are perfectly clean. It is obvious when a player is out to try and hurt someone. I know some OLs are just waiting to crack back on Suhs ass. It is just that easy to hurt him even though he is the only big tough guy in the league and all.

  124. CKL says: Aug 17, 2011 6:02 PM

    Sad part is the worst hit was the one he got fined the least for because it was the first occurrence.
    I agree that you have to take the guy away from the game to get his attention. That’s why BB sits guys instead of fining them usually. Take away their stage, they pay attention.

  125. thephantomstranger says: Aug 17, 2011 6:16 PM

    axespray says:
    Aug 17, 2011 4:10 PM
    ….what’s up with Viking fans talking Packer in a non-packer article?
    ____________

    I know the rules state that Viking fans can’t comment on Packer stories, but I thought Viking fans could mention a Packer in a Lion story. Sorry about the transgression.

  126. ryanw411 says: Aug 17, 2011 7:06 PM

    The funniest part is all the posters whining that Suh is dirty then wishing for o-linemen to take out his knee with a dirty play. What you eunuch hypocrites don’t realize is that he already deals with cheap shots and dirty plays from the other team and has from day one. Quit moaning, the trenches are a dirty place to play for everybody.

    As far as Stafford goes the times he has been injured it has taken monster hits from an unblocked DE in both the Cleveland and Chicago game. He took plenty of big hits his rookie year and popped right back up, just had bad luck with the Peppers hit happening in the opening game last year. He also has yet to suffer an actual major structural injury, he hasn’t broken any bones or torn any ligaments but had what is a shoulder sprain. He will be just fine but the people with the stupid Glassford and china doll comments will look like fools.

  127. ryanw411 says: Aug 17, 2011 7:10 PM

    No. Plenty of huge hits are perfectly clean. It is obvious when a player is out to try and hurt someone. I know some OLs are just waiting to crack back on Suhs ass. It is just that easy to hurt him even though he is the only big tough guy in the league and all.

    **********************************

    Even easier to tell is when a keyboard is being operated by a moron.

  128. axespray says: Aug 17, 2011 10:05 PM

    Suh plays like one of those 28 days later zombies …

    with RAGE!

    seriously thou, he plays pretty clean for the most part, just needs to lay off the trying to rip people’s heads off part.

  129. kingtrukr says: Aug 18, 2011 4:17 AM

    Of course he’s a dirty player… If you’re a little sissy girl. If you take the hard hits, violence and personalities out of football you might as well be watching a couple of old guys play checkers in the park. The NFL powers that be know this. That’s why you’ll be seeing Suh’s illegal hit on Dalton featured in the next promo ad for the NFL Network. Sure, go ahead and fine him. Then give him a wink and a nod and say “good job kid” under your breath. You’ll also see the definition, a term used to describe the National Footabll League next to the word, Hypocrite in the next updated version of Webster’s.

  130. comeonnowguys says: Aug 18, 2011 11:03 AM

    simplesimon1 says: Aug 17, 2011 5:00 PM


    Stop trying to pretend it’s not included. Are you aware that the league, after reviewing the play over and over and having all analysts say it was a fine hit, still fined him $15K? Were you in here last year with all the Bears fans talking trash about what a cheap shot it was? Did the writer of this story just bring it up again to be used as further evidence of Suh’s dirty playing? Did Cutler come out to the press following the game and say he thought it was dirty and Suh should be fined by the league?

    The answer is “yes” to every single question asked above. So, it is still being used in the same sentence as the other two hits in the last 21 games played and 99% of total defensive snaps. Funny that the fine was also worse than the fine for the actual bad hit on Delhomme. Also funny that out of the three incidents, the only cry baby was Cutler, considering he’s the only one that didn’t actually have a leg to stand on. See you week 5 pansy!!!

    Spectacular. Throwing out some e-machismo always helps these things.

    last year with all the Bears fans talking trash about what a cheap shot it was?

    I’m a bear fan, and I thought it was a bad call. Looked probably cheap live, clearly wasn’t on the replay. The fine was dumb. So no, not all the Bear fans were trash talking. You’re generalizing.

    Have you read anything over the past week? How many people have said that Cutler hit was cheap? I can’t imagine all the Bear fans suddenly disappeared. Stating the fact he was fined is not exactly agreeing with the fine. You’re exaggerating.

    I read a lot of Lion fan comments complaining about the call in defense of his clean play, and I’m pointing out there’s hasn’t been a lot of argument with them on that.

    And I’m looking for the Cutler quote, but have limited time to do so. I remember he said something basically like that, but I believe it was one quote right after game, and he’s not exactly the pound the podium and demanding someone’s head kind of guy. He was wrong to say it, but you’re still exaggerating his cry-babyness over it.

  131. londonbengal says: Aug 18, 2011 5:18 PM

    Suh is a monster for sure, if you give him time.

    When the Bengals decided to run it; even with their lousy interior line, Ced Benson ran it for 6 yards a go. Coaches watching the film will quickly figure out the way to stop Suh is to run it down their throats.

    Lions fans are right to be bigging up Suh, Fairley and KVB, but they need to figure out how to stop the run.

    If that terrible Bengal o-line can run it on the Lions, what are good running teams like AP and the Vikes gonna do ?

  132. easyeddie says: Aug 22, 2011 2:19 PM

    Comparissons of Suh with Harrison are stupid. Suh plays a violent game in a violent manner, but does not use his helmet as a weapon as does Harrison.

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