Anyway Cheers to tebow and I’ve never been a fan.

The whole mechanics issue is just a distraction to Tebow’s biggest most glaring problem. I don’t care if a guy can throw a hundred yard pass with touch, it doesn’t matter if you can NOT go through a post snap progression / read and allow for play development.

Even at the level of football I played db, I know for a fact Tebow will NOT throw the ball. EVEN WHEN HE WANTS TO.

The book on Tebow by the NFL has been written. Bum rush a few, keep a couple at home and cover the rest. Tebow is hard wired that once his first receiver is covered the head goes down and, off to the races Tebow goes. Yeah, it worked in College. That’s not going to cut it in the NFL.

He needs to be ‘rewired’ and that will only happen if it gets DRILLED out of him.

“Tavaris Jackson is money! He is going to take the Vikings to the playoffs.”

“packfaninpackland says: Aug 17, 2011 12:13 PM

I am by NO MEANS saying Tim Tebow is going to be Aaron Rodgers, but as a Packer fan I remember the knock on Rodgers coming out of college was his odd throwing motion and that he and the Packers worked on it tremendously early on, and that coupled with 3 years to sit, watch and learn, and Rodgers became what he is today.”
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Whoa there. Rodgers was incredibly accurate in college and had a very strong arm.

“As were Tim Couch, Brian Brohm, Ja Marcus Russell, David Carr, and many, many other first round QB’s that flamed out magnificently in the NFL. Your point ???

He didn’t have an odd throwing motion, but just that he held the ball higher than what others did. Holding the ball high “on the shelf” was considered a quicker release. He doesn’t hold the ball as high anymore,

“Yes, after a looooooong process that first year in training camp. I guess you convienantly “forget” that. Plus, don’t ever underestimate the incredible “value” of sitting, watching, and learning for THREE FULL YEARS, as opposed to being tossed to the wolves as an NFL Rookie QB. DUHHHHHHHH

but he still has a quick release. Brett Favre, your former QB, had terrible mechanics (sidearming, jerky motion) yet his release was very quick and also had a cannon arm.

Now we know the criticism of Rodgers was unfounded and irrational.

“Again, with a lot of work, AND coupled with throwing motion ! PLUS, I believe some of the criticism came from McCarthy and in particular the Packer quarterbacks coach. Nice attempt at revisionist history though. Not” !

No one looked at his accuracy or the speed of his release. Mechanics are overrated

“Overrated … really” ???? Oh, okay.

unless the quirk prevents him from delivering the ball quickly. Rodgers’ motion did NOT prevent this nor did it affect Favre.

However, for Tebow, every QB analyst has said that he’s slow on the release. Given the speed of defenders, those seconds are the difference between a completed pass and a batted pass.

“So I guess you agree with Hoge, then. Hmmm. I guess we’ll see about that.”

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As opposed to all the other non-biased announcers like Shannon Sharpe, Boomer Esiason, Dan Marino, Terry Bradshaw, and on.. and on.. and on.. it goes with the territory.. NONE of these fools are without bias…

Not everybody needs to be a Bill Walsh kind-of-guy to succeed in the NFL at the top level. We have guys playing today, like Michael Vick and Ben Roethlisberger, who have somewhat unorthodox pocket play and deliveries and who have fared really well despite that.

I think Tebow probably will struggle at this level, however I won’t be shocked if he turns out to be good enough to get away with unusual mechanics and still play well in the NFL.

Thanks for proving my point. Reading comprehension is not your strong points I see.

“Uh…no. It proves that a massively talented athlete can overcome a flaw.” Exactly!!

Hoge dismisses all else BUT Tebow’s motion as a reason he will not play qb in the NFL. As if that’s the only important part of being a QB. That’s was point of my post. And certainly that has been proven false by many successful qb’s who have not had ideal mechanics.

My other point is that Hoge has been wrong in HIS analysis of many qb’s. Nothing in your post suggests I’m wrong about Hoge’s obvious inability to correctly pick WHICH qb’s coming out of college will be successful.

By the way, you seem to indicate Favre changed his throwing motion? That’s what it sounds like in your post. Because if you are, you’re an extremely ignorant football fan in general, and I question whether you actually watch the game!!

Mechanics or not, some guys know how to win.

This is completely, absurdly, laughably untrue.

I’m sure the readers can name a ton more. The point is that for every Brady, Manning, Bradshaw, Brees, Elway, Marino, Kelly Pastorini, Moon, Montana and others gifted with NFL perfect throwing mechanics. There are an equal number of ugly duckling hurlers. who are flat out leaders. And they usually leave no prisoners and accept nothing but playoffs and championships. Several are in the Hall of Fame. Tebow could easily be in the latter “Duckling” group if given a fair chance by someone. Time will tell.

Rich Gannon, Kurt Warner, & Tommy Maddox are just a few examples of QBs that come to mind who took a long time to realize their potential. Maybe Tebow will never get there. I wouldn’t bet against him, though – he seems like the type to keep his nose to the grindstone and never give up. And I hated the kid while he was in college and leading up to the draft. The more I see him ignore his critics and just work at making himself better, the more I kinda root for him, though. (But I still wouldn’t want him lining up under center for my team – unless it’s with the 2nd team!)

His proselytizing and non-stop talk about his doubters (a BS line with no basis in reality) certainly don’t help.

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Whoa there. Rodgers was incredibly accurate in college and had a very strong arm. He didn’t have an odd throwing motion, but just that he held the ball higher than what others did. Holding the ball high “on the shelf” was considered a quicker release. He doesn’t hold the ball as high anymore, but he still has a quick release. Brett Favre, your former QB, had terrible mechanics (sidearming, jerky motion) yet his release was very quick and also had a cannon arm.

Now we know the criticism of Rodgers was unfounded and irrational. No one looked at his accuracy or the speed of his release.

Mechanics are overrated unless the quirk prevents him from delivering the ball quickly. Rodgers’ motion did NOT prevent this nor did it affect Favre. However, for Tebow, every QB analyst has said that he’s slow on the release. Given the speed of defenders, those seconds are the difference between a completed pass and a batted pass.