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The “Is Eli elite?” poll

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We’ve presented a couple of times today quasi-official PFT takes on whether Eli Manning’s comments from Tuesday regarding his status among elite quarterbacks.

We decided it would be fair to put it out to a vote.

Manning said he considers himself to be in the same class with Tom Brady.  Share your thoughts below.

Also, with Eli set to join PFT Live on Friday, feel free to pose any potential questions to him in the comments.

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99 Responses to “The “Is Eli elite?” poll”
  1. bloodhawk23 says: Aug 17, 2011 7:48 PM

    if you have to ask, its going to be no

  2. jel290 says: Aug 17, 2011 7:49 PM

    Hahahahahahahahaha
    Eli’s comments MUST have been “taken out of context” because otherwise he is delusional. Little Manning is lucky if he’s considered a top ten qb. He might be worse. I guess we’ll see this season

  3. surefooted1 says: Aug 17, 2011 7:50 PM

    Not just no, but HELL NO!

  4. My Last Victim Escaped says: Aug 17, 2011 7:51 PM

    Watched PFT Live and yes, you made a good case for Eli being elite but that’s the difference between him and the other QBs you mentioned… you had to make a case. The others we knew were elite.

  5. Umar says: Aug 17, 2011 7:52 PM

    He might not be elite, but he’s a heck of a lot better than many of the 32 starting QBs right now.

  6. icelovinbrotha215 says: Aug 17, 2011 7:53 PM

    No.

  7. jhart615 says: Aug 17, 2011 7:54 PM

    In my opinion, if you aren’t a top 5 player at the position, then you aren’t in any way “elite”, and sorry Eli, but Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Phillip Rivers, and your brother Peyton are easily better.

  8. 123makarov says: Aug 17, 2011 7:55 PM

    Eli is elite when it comes to turnovers. Pretty sure he leads NFL QBs in that department since he came into the league.

  9. phillyrick22 says: Aug 17, 2011 7:56 PM

    This is a no-brainer! He obviously IS NOT an elite QB, and dont go no that Eli has a ring… remember, Trent Dilfer & Brad Johnson both have rings… My opinion is that Eli said that to the media just to ruffle some feathers, we all got a good laugh today!! LMAO!

  10. kingjoe1 says: Aug 17, 2011 7:59 PM

    can someone explain to me why “no opinion” appears in so many polls?

  11. kylecleric says: Aug 17, 2011 8:00 PM

    Isn’t this the guy that threw 25 interceptions last year?

  12. sieg1234 says: Aug 17, 2011 8:03 PM

    Where is the “HELL NO” option? I’ll bet more people would vote that than just the regular “No” – He is that far from elite.

  13. woodg8 says: Aug 17, 2011 8:04 PM

    change the poll title to “are you a giants fan”

  14. bullethead527 says: Aug 17, 2011 8:05 PM

    If the Giants Def was (front 7 mainly) marginal, the Giants would be a 4-12 team every year… Eli is the new age Trent Dilfer, No way is Eli in the top 20 QB starters in the league…… He didnt even make the top 100 players voted by the players…… Get the hell out of here!!!!!!!!!! LOL

  15. mikecal645 says: Aug 17, 2011 8:06 PM

    If his last name wasn’t Manning this question would never be asked.

  16. pfii63 says: Aug 17, 2011 8:09 PM

    He is one miracle catch away from having zero Super Bowl wins. That makes him lucky, not elite.

  17. 1bigtex says: Aug 17, 2011 8:10 PM

    A 3 to 2 TD to INT ratio and a grand total of one season where his QB rating was above 90 with a career rating of 80. Sounds like a middle of the road QB to me. Damn sure not “elite”.

  18. mkwelchsportsradio says: Aug 17, 2011 8:12 PM

    I just want to know how Eli could be so stupid, was it too many Double Stuffed Oreos? The DSRL got preeetty intense during the lockout.

  19. rabidmike says: Aug 17, 2011 8:13 PM

    Same # of Superbowl victories as his brother, Brees, Dilfer, and Rypien. 1 less than Rothlisberger, 2 less than Brady. Hmmm. Does it matter? If you made a bet and got the Chargers, Colts, Saints, Steelers and Patriots against the field would you feel good about it? Wouldn’t have worked out last year.

  20. dylanmusicfane says: Aug 17, 2011 8:14 PM

    the results of the poll are pretty obvious.

  21. dawkinseffect says: Aug 17, 2011 8:16 PM

    Trent Dilfer won a superbowl, is he Elite?

  22. tfbuckfutter says: Aug 17, 2011 8:17 PM

    Haha.

    Yeah. He’s elite and Michelle Bachmann is a legitimate presidential candidate.

  23. ricardoheinze says: Aug 17, 2011 8:20 PM

    No poll needed to know he’s average.

  24. tjv027 says: Aug 17, 2011 8:20 PM

    The only thing Eli has in common with an elite QB is his paycheck. Not to say he didn’t earn it…you quarterback a championship team in New York, you get paid. But the numbers don’t lie…he’s very average.

  25. flagstaffphotos says: Aug 17, 2011 8:21 PM

    Well – unlike Tom Brady, Eli has won a SB ring since Hurricane Katrina, and since the rise and fall of Hannah Montana – I would say he beats out Brady as “elite” on that basis alone.

  26. geeeeemen says: Aug 17, 2011 8:21 PM

    I like PFT, but this poll is just DUMB. Obviously Eli is not elite, anyone can see that. The point is, Eli was asked, “do you think you are in the same class as Tom Brady?” If he had answered, “ha, good one. Obviously not” I would be very upset with him. What fan wants their quarterback to admit he’s not as good as the next guy.

    PFT, this poll is juvenile and serves no purpose other than to get clicks for your site.

    I choose choice D. What else should he have answered?

  27. mornelithe says: Aug 17, 2011 8:23 PM

    Is he elite? Yes.

    Is he Brady elite? Absolutely not.

    There’s a difference between being regular-ole elite, and one of the best QB’s the game has ever seen. Obviously Eli could be better, but, he’d have to improve a thousand-fold to get to where Brady is.

    The good thing for him though? People don’t expect that much out of him heh. Brady makes one wrong move and people jump hip deep in his $hit.

  28. harmcityhomer says: Aug 17, 2011 8:23 PM

    Almost? I mean he was good enough to win a SB and keep his team in contention for another one. There are 10 guys I think are better Qbs right now, but I could see him getting hot and winning another Sb.

  29. mydogwantstofightvick says: Aug 17, 2011 8:26 PM

    I am a ny giants fan. But no Eli is not elite, I love him for n amazing superbowl win. Still he is to inconsistent to b elite…..

  30. Clayton Bigsby says: Aug 17, 2011 8:27 PM

    HAHAHA..is this a trick question?

    I wish I had more hands, so I could give sh-eli four thumbs down.

  31. nagidac says: Aug 17, 2011 8:30 PM

    Having a No Opinion option is idiotic. If you have no opinion, don’t vote.

  32. Davo says: Aug 17, 2011 8:32 PM

    Don’t get me wrong, he’s very good, but not elite.

  33. localbandhero says: Aug 17, 2011 8:36 PM

    Hey Eli,

    When you come off the field after a series, and you’re screaming for your sippy cup, what do you prefer it filled with? And don’t say “water” because you wouldn’t need to anti spill cup if it was just water, so I will know you’re lying.

    Thanks,

    Phill from Erie

  34. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 17, 2011 8:39 PM

    He’s a good quarterback. Not elite just yet. He needs to keep going.
    It’s not his fault he’s not named Peyton.

  35. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 17, 2011 8:40 PM

    When he starts being feared, he’ll be elite.

  36. andyreidisfat says: Aug 17, 2011 8:41 PM

    These QB’s are better than Eli Manning,

    Brady, P. Manning, Vick, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Freeman, Schaub, Palmer (if he plays), Rivers.

    These are the QB’s Manning is on the same level on

    Mc5, Flacco, Sanchez, Cutler, Cassel, Romo, ORton, Kolb, and maybe a few more. I might be missing some.

    If your at best the 11th best QB in the NFL with 4-5 breathing down your neck and 2-3 really young guys trying to pass you, you simply can not be elite. Eli Manning if not named Manning may not even be a starter in the NFL. The guy is a turn over machine.

  37. levingibbs says: Aug 17, 2011 8:43 PM

    I personally think that if you switched Peyton Manning with Eli, the Giants would dominate the NFC East as long as he played, while Indianapolis would run Eli out of town after a few years.

    So, no, I don’t believe Eli Manning is elite. However, I’d much rather have him as my starting QB than Rex Grossman….

  38. gamingphenom says: Aug 17, 2011 8:45 PM

    Eli is most definitely NOT elite. I actually told someone today that he is closer to the class of “Sanchize” than Brady. I could easily name at least 10 QBs off the top of my head that are better than Eli. He is a little higher than middle of the pack probably. Just because he gets paid a lot does not make him elite. However, I wouldn’t bash Eli for what he said. He just answered someone’s question and showed that he has a lot of confidence in himself. Giants fans should be happy about that. Let’s see Eli prove most of us wrong but I wouldn’t bet on it. I am picking the Giants to finish dead last in their division unless the Skins go with John Beck. A Beck led Skins team would almost certainly be worse than the Giants.

  39. bullcharger says: Aug 17, 2011 8:45 PM

    no, at no time, never, no way, not at all, not ever, not in any way, not in the least, not on your life, not under any condition

  40. jackbassett says: Aug 17, 2011 8:51 PM

    Eli is to Payton as Mike Peterson is to Adrian.

    Eli is to Payton as Sinorice Moss is to Santana.

    Eli is to Payton as Clint Howard is to Ron.

    Eli is to Payton as Frank Stallone is to Sylvester.

    Short answer, no Eli is not elite.

  41. kingmj4891 says: Aug 17, 2011 8:52 PM

    He won a Super Bowl and was MVP enough said!!!!!

  42. holdthemayo123 says: Aug 17, 2011 9:01 PM

    Wow – 15% for Yes.. Lots of Gints fans out there!

  43. ICDogg says: Aug 17, 2011 9:01 PM

    Of course he’s elite. He doesn’t get anywhere near as many “near interceptions” as Vick.

  44. jediwrstlr says: Aug 17, 2011 9:02 PM

    IF Roethlisberger who has twice as many rings and three times the amount of superbowl appearences than ELI, he shouldn’t even be mentioned in the conversation. He is MAYBE a top 10 QB, and thats only if Favre stays retired.

  45. sch00ns says: Aug 17, 2011 9:03 PM

    Ask Eli this: Do you regret spreading the rumors about yourself being an elite quarterback?

  46. stratomaticfan says: Aug 17, 2011 9:08 PM

    He doesn’t even pass the smell test.

    Plunkett won 2 Super Bowls and was SB XV MVP….was he an elite QB?

  47. gimmeabruschi says: Aug 17, 2011 9:11 PM

    Here’s a poll.

    Ask how many Pat’s fans would trade Brady straight up for Eli, and how many Giant’s fans would trade Eli straight up for Brady.

    Predicted results:

    Pat’s fans = 99% – NO!

    Giant’s fans = 99% YES!

    Eli is about as mediocre as they come. Him mentioning his name in the same breath as Brady (or his brother) is a mortal sin.

    Interestingly, many consider Brady better that Peyton. So, Eli apparently thinks he is better than his brother. What a buffoon.

  48. nepatriots128154 says: Aug 17, 2011 9:12 PM

    Next Poll: Is Alphonso Smith a shutdown corner?

  49. denverwally says: Aug 17, 2011 9:17 PM

    25 picks…. 25 picks… 25 picks… 25 picks…

    Eli, just as there is no’I’ in Team, there is no “25 picks” in Elite.

    And if you need a poll to decide if he’s elite, thats all you need to know.

  50. prior0knowledge says: Aug 17, 2011 9:18 PM

    franchise QB? yes… elite? no… top 10 of current? maybe

  51. jackbassett says: Aug 17, 2011 9:26 PM

    kingmj4891 says:
    Aug 17, 2011 8:52 PM
    He won a Super Bowl and was MVP enough said!!!!!
    _________________

    At least preface your comment with “I’m a homer.” Let me guess your first born is named Eli?

  52. shizzy1112 says: Aug 17, 2011 9:31 PM

    Where is the “Hell No!” vote?

  53. cosmic cobbvict says: Aug 17, 2011 9:33 PM

    The guy took a ring from Brady. No need to roll a log into a unicorn nest over it.

  54. darthhitman says: Aug 17, 2011 9:48 PM

    In all fairness this is the media spinning things. He was asked if he considers himself in the same league as Brady. Question: “How should he have answered?” NO, he is not, if he had said no however he probably would be looking for a new agent this morning. I am NOT a Giants fan, I am NOT an Eli fan. he’s a good QB, not elite by any means but seriously, for ALL you guys ripping him that aren’t a fan of a team quarterbacked by Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers let me ask you, if your QB was asked the same question, how would you want him to answer?

    Josh Freeman: Nope, sorry

    Joe Flacco: I’m just trying to beat out the legend of Trent Dilfer dude

    Ben Roethlisberger: Hell’s naw, I just get paid like him

    Think about that for a moment

  55. oscarbluth says: Aug 17, 2011 9:55 PM

    “Having a No Opinion option is idiotic. If you have no opinion, don’t vote.”
    This.

    As for Eli… he’s in no way, shape or form elite. Can’t believe this poll was even deemed worthy enough to post.

    QBs that are clearly better than Eli:
    – Peyton
    – Brady
    – Roethlisberger
    – Rivers
    – Vick
    – Rodgers
    – Ryan
    – Brees

    And I’m tempted to put Schaub, Bradford, Flacco, and Orton on there. The guy’s borderline top 15. I mean, I respect his confidence… but this shouldn’t even be a discussion.

  56. flipside1050 says: Aug 17, 2011 9:56 PM

    You cant spell ELITE without ELI hahahaha!!!!

  57. jrmbadger says: Aug 17, 2011 9:57 PM

    The word “elite” gets thrown around way too much with respect to quarterbacks. I think Clayton (or is it Jaworski?) has like 15 quarterbacks in his “elite” ranking…. The word “elite” should mean something more exclusive than the top 50% of quarterbacks in my opinion.

    The word has been watered down so much so that it basically means good at this point.

    If you put E. Manning in the “Elite” level – just like Clayton’s list, PFT’s “Elite” level must have like 20 other quarterbacks in it. In that case, is Brady, Rodgers and Peyton Manning in the “Elite, Elite” qb club? (see how ridiculous this is getting?)

    Elite should mean “extremely special.”

    By that definition, the only “elite” quarterbacks would be:
    Brady,
    Rodgers,
    Manning,
    Brees

    Rivers is close. Ryan and Freeman are next.

    Eli Manning is slightly above average. As other’s have said – the Trent Dilfer of the modern age.

  58. godsowncrunk says: Aug 17, 2011 10:04 PM

    Hardcore, life-long Giants fan here – I’m happy with Eli as our QB, but no, he’s not elite, leet, 1337, etc. He’s just … Eli.

  59. brintfatre says: Aug 17, 2011 10:05 PM

    Eli can you hear it??? Shanahan is calling… answer it and he might let you compete with Grossman next season for the starting job!

  60. dennis2488 says: Aug 17, 2011 10:05 PM

    even the super bowl eli manning won he was outplayed by tom brady.

  61. nceaglesfan says: Aug 17, 2011 10:07 PM

    Question to Eli…

    Obviously, you hold yourself in high regard. Is that why your helmet looks 4 sizes to large?

  62. halftermguv says: Aug 17, 2011 10:07 PM

    For someone who works hard, plays at a high level, has never been a self promoter and won a Super Bowl; Eli has taken a lot of grief for answering a question the same way about 30 percent of NFL players would have answered it.

    If his name was LeBron James and made the same statement, ESPN would have a one hour special on why it’s not only true but the best statement in the history of the world.

    Last I checked, Eli is 1 and 0 in championships and LeBron is 0 and 2.

  63. jr4real says: Aug 17, 2011 10:10 PM

    Was going to comment 16% from NY but probably 80%!

  64. zaggs says: Aug 17, 2011 10:15 PM

    oscarbluth and gimmeabruschi ,

    Put loaded guns in your mouths and start pulling the trigger til they go off. You’re too stupid to procreate and doing so would just dumb down the world.
    So much stupidity. Brees is a better QB than Eli? Brees had 22 picks. If 25 is terrible, isn’t 22? It aint like Brees was playing against defensive powerhouses in the NFC South.
    But take any qb you think is better than Eli, then put that QB in Eli’s position last year. At one point the Giants only had 3 healthy receivers on the team which were the #1, #3 and #5. Good god he was trying to make due with people like Michael Clayton, Duek Calhoun, Devin Thomas, and Derek Hagan. Only 1 of those players started the season on the Giants roster.

  65. bigtrav425 says: Aug 17, 2011 10:17 PM

    He had to of been high while saying and even thinking that! as much as i think Brady is only as good as he is because he is a system QB id still take him a million times over,over Eli!…Eli isnt even in the top 10 QB’s and dare i say 15 without thinking real quick

  66. Andre's Johnson says: Aug 17, 2011 10:28 PM

    Rogers
    Brady
    Brees
    Manning, P.
    Roethlisburger
    Rivers
    Vick
    Ryan
    Schaub
    Romo
    Flacco
    Sanchez

    Then Bradford, Orton, McNabb, Cutler, Kolb, and Manning, E…in whatever order.

  67. lionsfan2014 says: Aug 17, 2011 10:31 PM

    Eli talks to his mom too much.

    “Eli, you are just as good of a quarterback as the Tom Brady, and you are definitely much more handsome,” Mrs. Manning.

  68. jvibottomline says: Aug 17, 2011 10:37 PM

    Eli Sucks, Archie was overrated, Peyton was adopted, and Cooper lost a bet with GOD!

  69. shaggytoodle says: Aug 17, 2011 10:45 PM

    There are only about 5 or 6 ELITE QBs

    I believe Manning is Tier 2 closer to a top 10 than elite.

  70. tddrini says: Aug 17, 2011 10:50 PM

    Look I am a Giants fan but I can be objective enough to say that Eli is not Elite. I think he ranks somewhere between 9th to 12th best in the league.

    But I am soooooooooo tired of all the haters acting like he isn’t a legite starter. The whole he wouldn’t even start if his name wasn’t Manning is ridiculous. I think he is judged harder because of that. If he was Eli Smith people might actually give him more respect.

    And PLEASE enough with the Trent Dilfer comparisons. The most yards Dilfer ever threw for in a season was 2,800. Eli broke 4,000 two years in a row. And Dilfer only passed for 20+ TDs in a season twice (21 both times). Eli has passed for 20+ TDs six times including a high of 31 TDs last year.

    He clearly isn’t Elite but he isn’t a scrub either. But as many others have said, what would you want your QB to say if asked the question? What would YOU say if you were a QB in the leage? If you would say anything different than you have no heart.

  71. greenman660 says: Aug 17, 2011 10:58 PM

    No he’s not elite, but it’s an insult to compare him to cheating over-rated Brady…

  72. walkenrules says: Aug 17, 2011 11:40 PM

    WHEN will people realize that football is a TEAM sport? You are only as good as the other players around you. Could Donovan McNabb have been “great”? Yes. Is Dan Marino “great” even though he didn’t win a “Superbowl”? Yes. Fans of the NFL constantly bicker over who is and who isn’t great based on Superbowl/Championship stats. It is a TEAM game. Relativity must be considered. Einstein would agree. Please, evolve, NFL fans!

  73. mmmpieyummy says: Aug 17, 2011 11:45 PM

    Let me make this simple for everyone…Eli Manning led his team to and won a SuperBowl.

    There have been 45 SuperBowls played with 29 total winning quarterbacks…and he is one of them.

    So out of the hundreds and hundreds of quarterbacks that have come through the NFL throughout the years, only 29 have won a championship.

    That alone makes him elite…period.

  74. rc33 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:06 AM

    Last season, one of the guy’s in the question threw 36 Td’s and 4 interceptions, a record 334 consecutive throws without a pick and became the first unanimous MVP in NFL history.

    The other guy threw 25 interceptions.

    Eli can think of himself as elite if he wants, that’s fine.
    Just mention a different QB next time, OK Eli?One that you actually are comparable to.

  75. stackraider95 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:22 AM

    Beyond Elite-Manning and Brady

    Elite-Brees, Rivers, Rodgers

    Almost Elite-Ben, Ryan,Vick

    Good Qb’s- Freeman, Flacco, Eli, Romo, Schaub, Bradford

  76. kcfanatic says: Aug 18, 2011 12:32 AM

    mmmpieyummy says:
    Aug 17, 2011 11:45 PM
    Let me make this simple for everyone…Eli Manning led his team to and won a SuperBowl.

    There have been 45 SuperBowls played with 29 total winning quarterbacks…and he is one of them.

    So out of the hundreds and hundreds of quarterbacks that have come through the NFL throughout the years, only 29 have won a championship.

    That alone makes him elite…period.
    _______________________________

    One of those QB’s are Trent Dilfer. That in itself blows a hole in your logic.

  77. fringetastic says: Aug 18, 2011 1:09 AM

    I’m not sure if Philip Rivers is elite, but he is better than Eli.

    These arguments that say “Eli won a superbowl” are falling into the fallacy of giving the QB too much credit and blame for *team* results. Trent Dilfer won a superbowl and there is no discussion of whether he is “elite”.

  78. eaglesdynasty says: Aug 18, 2011 1:18 AM

    @mmmmpieyummy:

    Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostetler, Jim McMahon, Jim Plunkett and Doug Williams were ALL elite QBs as well?

    You’re argument holds absolutely no water, you sound like you are referring to a sport where a QB is the only player on the field and he plays another QB head-to-head. Eli played very well in the playoffs and SB in 2007, have some great plays and did enough to help the Giants win. Lets not act like they didnt have superb coaching with Spags running the D and Coughlin at the helm. Lets not act like Strahan, Osi, Tuck, Robbins and Coefield didnt dominate the Pats o-line and thus turn the most prolific scoring offense ever into a mediocre unit making the game winnable in the first place. Are we supposed to forget the best OG at the time in Chris Snee led possibley the best o-line in the league with David Dhiel, Kareem McKenzie and Shaun O’hara. Dont forget about possibley the best running game that Eli could work play action off of with Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw and Derrick Ward. Eli also certainly had talented weapons in Burress, Steve Smith, Amani Toomer and TE Kevin Boss. Leaders like Antonio Pierce and Corey Webster anchored a talented back end on the D

    Lets also not forget David Tyree making one of the most amazing catches in SB history on a play that Eli ust chucked the ball over the middle in double coverage where more often than not its either incomplete or intercepted. Can we also not forget that late in the game “elite” Eli threw a pass right to Asante Samuel that hit him in the hands. Is it Eli’s “eliteness” that bailed him out when Asante dropped the game winning INT?

    Its ridiculous to use one SB win by a team a QB played on as all the evidence for him being elite. Its incredibley short-sighted and not logical at all.

    Just to drive the point home:

    In 2000 we had Peyton Manning (94 qbr), Jeff Garcia (97 qbr), Elvis Grbac (89 qbr), Daunte Culpepper (98 qbr), Rich Gannon (92 qbr), Kurt Warner (98 qbr), Brian Griese (102 qbr), trent green (102 qbr), Doug Flutie (86 qbr), steve mcnair (84 qbr), Mark Brunell (83 qbr), Kerry Collins (82 qbr) plus guys like Donovan McNabb, Brett Favre, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe, Jake Plummer and Jon Kitna starting in the NFL

    so among those QBs Trent Dilfer is ELITE in 2000 because he played QB on a team that won a SB??? With his 76 qbr, 12 TDs, 11 INTs and 59% completion while playing on a team with a dominant o-line, HOF LT, and great power running attack led by in their primes Jamal Lewis and Priest Holmes he was elite because of team accomplishments?

    c’mon, ya gotta do better than that weak garbage……so is every HB on a SB winning team “elite” too? or is it only QB because of your overblown idea of positional value? eventhough many QBs, such as ELI, relied on a dominating team around him, balanced run first offense, good weapons, and elite dominating d-line, with great coaching.

  79. legendaryjedeye says: Aug 18, 2011 1:33 AM

    kingmj4891 says:
    Aug 17, 2011 8:52 PM
    He won a Super Bowl and was MVP enough said!!!!!
    ————————————————-

    Because they cannot handout MVP trophies to an entire defensive line. Wasn’t for that d line getting to Brady, Patriots woulda smoked the Giants. Real, logical Giants fans know that.

  80. gimmeabruschi says: Aug 18, 2011 1:50 AM

    zaggs says: Aug 17, 2011 10:15 PM

    oscarbluth and gimmeabruschi ,

    Put loaded guns in your mouths and start pulling the trigger til they go off. You’re too stupid to procreate and doing so would just dumb down the world.
    So much stupidity. Brees is a better QB than Eli? Brees had 22 picks. If 25 is terrible, isn’t 22? It aint like Brees was playing against defensive powerhouses in the NFC South.
    But take any qb you think is better than Eli, then put that QB in Eli’s position last year. At one point the Giants only had 3 healthy receivers on the team which were the #1, #3 and #5. Good god he was trying to make due with people like Michael Clayton, Duek Calhoun, Devin Thomas, and Derek Hagan. Only 1 of those players started the season on the Giants roster.

    ________________________________

    You have the balls to call others stupid?

    You think the guy with the 57th best passer rating all-time is better than the 10th?

    You think the guy who is 77th all-time in passing yards is better than the guy who is 17th?

    You think the guy who is 66th all-time in INT% is better than the guy who is 25th?

    You think the guy who is 66th all-time in TD passes is better than the guy who is 21st?

    Get a clue. Eli is an 80 passer, and Brees is nearly a 92. Only a football idiot would argue Eli is better.

  81. geneinsocal says: Aug 18, 2011 1:57 AM

    Josh Freeman, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan? Seriously?
    Honestly, some of you need to brush up on football and stop getting your talking points from ESPN and PFT.

    Phillip Rivers would be an average Qb ANYWHERE else outside San Diego. Must be nice having every fricken home game played on perfect turf, in 70 degree weather. Funny how everyone gives teh rapist credit for 2 SuperBowls despite the fact that he had the worst Passer rating of any winning SB QB, EVER! He gets credit, but Eli doesn’t? Eli threw 2 4th qtr TD’s against the anointed one’s, in SB 42. Yet, the defense won the game! Go figure.

  82. devinhesterforpresident says: Aug 18, 2011 2:02 AM

    HELL NO. but on the bright side, at least tom brady got a good laugh

  83. jkb0162 says: Aug 18, 2011 2:08 AM

    Still pissed about Eli not going to the Chargers, plus he has chronic dumb-face.

  84. marcus158 says: Aug 18, 2011 5:16 AM

    mmmpieyummy says:

    He’s a member of the elite club of Super Bowl winning QBs but so is Trent Dilfer and Joe Namath.

    That’s not the kind of “elite” the question is asking.

    Put it this way, is Eli Manning a Top 3 QB who will be a first-ballot Hall of Fame inductee in 15 years time? Will he break Favre’s records? Will he win another 3 Super Bowls? Is he better than his older brother who’s argubly the best QB to play the game?

    If you answer ‘yes’ to any of those questions, then you’ve answered the question the way it should have been answered. Not with this crap about being a SB winning QB. That’s not the kind of elite the question is asking.

  85. ct122333 says: Aug 18, 2011 5:27 AM

    can I vote mark sanchez

  86. theripster30 says: Aug 18, 2011 5:50 AM

    Eli Manning is inconsistent. Becoming elite requires years of consistency.

  87. tennesseeoilers says: Aug 18, 2011 6:41 AM

    I think Eli Manning is one of the more underrated QBs in the NFL, and he has many “elite” moments, but not consistently enough to define him–at least not yet.

  88. tlight131 says: Aug 18, 2011 6:47 AM

    I always picture his dopey pouty face on draft day.

  89. therealsmiley says: Aug 18, 2011 7:19 AM

    In my opinion there are 2 QBs that are elite currently in this league: Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Both have put up big numbers for years. True Hall of Famers. Hail!

  90. racerx220 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:27 AM

    The 3000 people that voted yes must be on the same drugs as eli.

  91. RexCanCoach says: Aug 18, 2011 7:56 AM

    Eli had more interceptions in his 7th year than Sanchez had in his rookie year.

  92. marinephinfan says: Aug 18, 2011 7:59 AM

    Eli is in the same class as Tom Brady.

    Neither are “elite” and relied on defense to win their Super Bowls.

  93. ggbblue says: Aug 18, 2011 8:23 AM

    Man, I’ve always liked Eli Manning, but I’ve come to flat-out admire this guy.

    He is getting killed for answering a question where anyone with a modicum of intelligence would ask themselves, “Well, what the heck is he supposed to say?” I like his confidence. I like even more his resiliency.

    Any one of these morons killing him–on here and in the media–would crumble under one-tenth of the nonsense Manning takes. He’s tough, classy, and (thank God for Giants fans) listens ONLY to himself and his coaches.

  94. jaymc1988 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:55 AM

    lets start by sayin im a huge giants fan. that being said there is no way eli is elite. hes a damn good quarterback and above average..but no hes not elite.. eli makes to many mental mistakes, lollypop throws for ints, under pressure throwws for picks, or tryin to toss a ball away underpressure leading to a fumble, terrible slides costing us games, arrant throws. now elite QBs mess up peyton has had 4 int games. but when u face peyton no matter if he threw 6 ints if the games a 14 pt game peyton can win it.. eli loses confidence, sulks after bad plays and shrugs his shoulders with a retarded look on his face like someone stole his candybar. he doesnt have the demeanor of an elite qb YET. i think this story will fire him up. and i hope so im tired of seein the mamas boy eli i want to see the fired up, in ur face want to win eli. and i been waitin 7 years to see that eli consistantly. yeah eli tosses up huge games ocassionally but its inconsistant every single yr.. each wk u dont know which eli u will get the 300 yrd 3 td elior the 150 yrd 1 td and 3 int eli. thats why hes yet to be elite until he strings together a few seasons of beastly years and playoffs..

  95. jaymc1988 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:59 AM

    and before i read another superbowl 42 comment..yes Eli will always get credit for that win..and deserves every bit. he gets as much credit as rex grossman gets for gettin to the superbowl the yr before LOL (except eli won) but those 4 playoff games (and dallas stadium opener) were arguably elis best games of his entire career, everyone who watched superbowl 42 could see giants D won that game. u dont put up 17 points against pats in any year and win. we could of won that superbowl with rex grossman or tim hasselback. for cryin out loud trent delfer won a SB. superbowl will never be takin away from eli but that in no way makes u elite. if trent delfer can do it and rexgrossman being 3 mins away from winning..than it doesnt mean to much. ELI STEP IT UP N PROVE EVERYONE WRONG!

  96. jaymc1988 says: Aug 18, 2011 10:19 AM

    just to put this to bed..

    trent dilfer, jim plunkett, jim mcmahon, jeff hostetler(giants:) ). brad johnson, doug williams, ken stabler…. none of them are considered elite at all and all won superbowls..

    kerry collins, rex grossman, hasselback, mcnabb just to name a few all went to superbowls and just lost

    winning a superbowl doesnt make u an elite QB

  97. osteelers says: Aug 18, 2011 10:23 AM

    You can have an average quarterback on a great team and win the superbowl, Dilfer, Rypien, Williams, McMahan, Hostetler are a few examples. Same with Obama as a president, you can take a community organizer out of Chicago and put him in the White House, doesn’t mean he is a an elite President.

  98. rc33 says: Aug 18, 2011 3:26 PM

    Problem being, he wasn’t even an elite community organizer.

  99. sdw2001 says: Aug 18, 2011 5:00 PM

    Problem being, he wasn’t even an elite community organizer.
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    ROTFL. In other news we’re up to about 20,000 “no” votes vs. 3,000 yes.

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