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Matt Flynn enjoying strong training camp

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We’ve read the always-excellent Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel long enough to know that he doesn’t make statements simply for the purpose of getting attention.

So when he says Matt Flynn has outplayed Aaron Rodgers in training camp, well, we take notice.

“Maybe the coaches have scored it differently, but from a sideline view, backup quarterback Matt Flynn has had a better camp than starter Aaron Rodgers,” Silverstein writes.

Flynn looked great in his preseason appearance against the Browns last week. He’s also been playing well at practice.

“If scouts from other teams were allowed to attend practice, they would be making calls back home as fast as possible,” Silverstein says.

The positive spin here is that the Packers have one of the best backup quarterbacks in football. The negative angle is that Rodgers hasn’t enjoyed a standout camp.

“Rodgers, for the most part, hasn’t been as consistent,” notes Silverstein. “Some of his throws have been off, and some of his connections with receivers not as crisp.”

Silverstein isn’t concerned about Rodgers and we aren’t either at this stage. We talking about practice.

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  1. polishrod says: Aug 18, 2011 11:23 AM

    No Packers, nobody will give you a 2nd rounder for Matt Flynn. Talk him up all you like, he has an arm like a 3rd grader

  2. Topher says: Aug 18, 2011 11:26 AM

    The whole Pack appears as if they are sitting back, kissing their Super Bowl rings and saying to themselves, “mission accomplished.”

    The good news is that there is still time to fix that attitude.

  3. virger says: Aug 18, 2011 11:26 AM

    wonder if they’re trying to drum up trade interest

  4. PackersHome.com says: Aug 18, 2011 11:28 AM

    Wonderful, just what we needed, a QB controversy in Green Bay. There goes the Super Bowl hopes for 2011.

  5. icewalker946 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:29 AM

    Stir up the puddin’…..

    Look, we are not talking about just practice here, we are comparing a Super Bowl MVP winner to a back up. I bet if we could look back there would be comparisons to other back ups doing well compared to the starters in many *preseason* camps.

    This is a story, but this should be more on the side of “Look at how good Flynn is doing” instead of “Flynn should be the starter since he’s playing better than Rodgers”.

    Week one starter, no matter how preseason goes (barring injury) will be Rodgers.

  6. icewalker946 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:33 AM

    polishrod says:
    Aug 18, 2011 11:23 AM
    No Packers, nobody will give you a 2nd rounder for Matt Flynn. Talk him up all you like, he has an arm like a 3rd grader
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Joe Montana never had a strong arm either.

    And no, not comparing Montana to Flynn, don’t be silly. Just countering your statement about Flynn’s arm being weak.

    And who said anything about a 2nd rounder….I hope they get a 1st and a 3rd! (wink wink nudge nudge)

  7. scoops1 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:33 AM

    waht does Merrill Hoge have to say about all this

  8. polishrod says: Aug 18, 2011 11:36 AM

    Can someone outside of the Packers or Cheese Country confirm this story?

    If not, it sounds like the Pack just talking up themselves again.

    If I have to hear one more story about how humble they are, I may puke all over my Mark Chmura jersey

  9. CKL says: Aug 18, 2011 11:37 AM

    McCarthy is such a great QB coach that it would concern me a LITTLE to trade for Flynn unless my team had such a coach too. And I think Flynn could be a nice player too.
    If he’s an FA after this year (not sure) it will be interesting to see the competition for offers between him and Brian Hoyer, who also has looked competent in all his game action pre and regular season.

  10. pigskinswag says: Aug 18, 2011 11:39 AM

    Listen, we’re talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about practice. Practice.

  11. Chuck Wood says: Aug 18, 2011 11:41 AM

    First off… Rodgers is “practicing” against one of the NFL’s TOP defenses, whereas Flynn is practicing against their backups. If anyone has been keeping tabs on the GB defense this training camp… they’ve noticed how “lights out” the D has been so far. No, i’m not talking about the D that allowed Colt McCoy to resemble Bernie Kosar. That D was minus Woodson and Tramon Williams, who sat out. Also- the ClayMaker only played 2-3 snaps.

    That said… Flynn is without a doubt worth a pair of 2nd Rd. draft picks at LEAST. He’s better than Kolb… hell- he’s better than Cassel. Look what those two players netted their former teams in trades.

  12. ajknox88 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:42 AM

    No Packers, nobody will give you a 2nd rounder for Matt Flynn. Talk him up all you like, he has an arm like a 3rd grader

    __________________

    Just wondering have you ever even seen him play before?!

  13. philshady25 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:45 AM

    Flynn is a solid backup. Good for the Pack throw out a worm and see what we reel in.

  14. doe22us says: Aug 18, 2011 11:45 AM

    Yeah Yeah whatever. A Rodg will be lighting up secondaries when the games that count start rolling along.

  15. egls7 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:48 AM

    PackersHome.com says: Aug 18, 2011 11:28 AM Wonderful, just what we needed, a QB controversy in Green Bay. There goes the Super Bowl hopes for 2011.

    Im an eagles fan, so your statement makes me feel you are being sarcastic. If you’re not, then you are a true bandwagon fan because of your lack of knowledge of their qb situation.

  16. clayshair says: Aug 18, 2011 11:49 AM

    Can we trade Flynn to the Eagles to get Cullen Jenkins back?

  17. AlanSaysYo says: Aug 18, 2011 11:51 AM

    Cassel played an entire season and Kolb at least played a handful of games. Flynn has one good game (a loss) against New England to his credit right now. I think he may well be a good player, but saying he merits the type of compensation that came out of the Cassel and Kolb deals is premature.

  18. theytukrjobs says: Aug 18, 2011 11:51 AM

    Ah, the old “our backup is so amazing other teams should trade top picks for him” deal. Sure.

  19. furedmccombs says: Aug 18, 2011 11:56 AM

    You know who else looks like a stud in practice?

    T. Joke

  20. dirtybuc says: Aug 18, 2011 12:01 PM

    Rodgers simply doesn’t care…

  21. zilla1126 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:05 PM

    This site has an excellent brakedown of Matt Flynn:

    http://www.bluesundaycolts.com/2010/12/matt-flynn-and-joe-webb-analyzing-young.html

    Looks to me that they might be grooming him as a Kevin Kolb / Jay Feeley / Matt Cassell bargaining chip.

  22. elgaffo says: Aug 18, 2011 12:06 PM

    Flynn will be good for whoever gets him, whenever that happens. Good to have him now in case/ when Rodgers forgets to slide again.

  23. bunjy96 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:08 PM

    If they trade Flynn, who is the other QB?

  24. cliverush says: Aug 18, 2011 12:08 PM

    Loved watching him play at LSU, impressed by his play in Foxboro last year. He’s a keeper for the Pack.

  25. opie333 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:10 PM

    He looked like chit! in the preseason game and got beat by the browns 2′s!

  26. indywilson40 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:10 PM

    You know what they say, “when you have 2 quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks.” Packers could be in trouble this year if they don’t get their QB situation fixed.

  27. nola5712 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:14 PM

    wuuu sahhhhh i say to packers fans who think flynn will replace rodgers. calm yourself.

    first off the guy never said “ohhhh flynn looks SO good that he’s gonna take aaron rodgers JOB!”

    2nd, you should be happy that if rodgers sits out a game for whatever reason, you have a great backup in flynn. (as evidenced by this preseason AND last season when flynn tore it up starting for the concussed rodgers) kudos for a great front office!

    3rd, he, a reporter, did say that coaches may have the two graded differently and if being a saints fan is any indication, jeff duncan of the times piccayune knows FAR LESS than sean payton does.

    4th, rodgers better start, because the saints @ packers wouldn’t be the same without brees vs. rodgers! looking forward to a great game!

  28. favreblows says: Aug 18, 2011 12:19 PM

    I could see a team giving up a late #1 for Flynn. I sure as hell would rather have him than Ponder. I mean, seriously. Flynn in his small sampling has looked better than Kolb…..and he brought in a #2 and a Pro Bowl corner. Granted….that was way too much and indicates a Paul Hargis type of mentality down in Phoenix. But, I wouldn’t give up Flynn unless the offer was a #1 or a #2 and some change.

  29. glac1 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:24 PM

    Which qb will the Packers keep???? Obviously it’s Rodgers. It never hurts to have two or three good quarterbacks. They drafted him in the sixth round and could easily get a second or first for him. We’ve done that numerous times (Mark Brunell, Matt Hasselbeck etc…)..

  30. trollhammer20 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:24 PM

    I remember watching that NE game last year and being impressed with his poise. First NFL start, on the road, against one of the best teams in football, and he did a damn fine job.

    Since John Schneider has ties in Green Bay, it might be interesting to see if Seattle makes a move for him this offseason. Probably could depend on where Seattle winds up drafting; they could be 6-10 division winners and wind up picking 24th again.

  31. PackersHome.com says: Aug 18, 2011 12:30 PM

    @egls7 says “Im an eagles fan, so your statement makes me feel you are being sarcastic. If you’re not, then you are a true bandwagon fan because of your lack of knowledge of their qb situation.”

    ////////////////////////////////////////

    It was sarcasm, thought that was blatantly obvious, haha.

    I know very well the QB situation of the team I root for. :)

  32. packattackisback says: Aug 18, 2011 12:32 PM

    Aaron, for whatever reason, struggled with his accuracy early on last season. That’s a big part of why the Packers lost to teams like the Dolphins and Redskins – no offense, but those teams wouldn’t beat the Packers when Aaron Rodgers is on. They barely lost those games despite Aaron’s spotty play at that point. But when he got it figured out (whatever IT may have been), he was probably the new best QB in the League, as proven in the playoffs.

    Matt Flynn “outplaying” Aaron right now isn’t surprising to me, nor is it a problem at all for the Packers; they’ve got a guy who can probably win big games in case something unfortunate happens, and they’ll probably get a good pick for him at some point. There’s absolutely no controversy though; once Aaron Rodgers gets it going again, he’ll outplay Matt and every other quarterback in the League.

    Oh, and he’s always had an edge from people doubting him, and I was worried that winning the Super Bowl once would silence any “motivators”. Nope. This should help.

  33. thephantomstranger says: Aug 18, 2011 12:34 PM

    Matty Ice has one good game in a loss to New England and all of a sudden he’s worth a second-round pick. I’ll admit he looked stellar leading the team to 3 points against Detroit after Rodgers got shut out, but I think we need to see a little more of this guy before anointing him the next backup QB to be a star once he gets traded.

  34. thephantomstranger says: Aug 18, 2011 12:34 PM

    Looks like Ryan from The Office got fat and happy on the banquet circuit this offseason.

  35. 305phinphan says: Aug 18, 2011 12:35 PM

    I’m very surprised the Dolphins never pursued him. The way Flynn played against the Pats last year should have got a little interest from the Phins. I don’t know if Flynn is a system QB but I wish the Phins brought him in instead of Matt Moore.

  36. chipwade says: Aug 18, 2011 12:49 PM

    Aaron Rodgers has absolutely NOTHING to prove. He won 3 road playoffs and beat the Steelers in the Super Bowl to take the SB MVP. He looked very good in his preseason time.

    There are about 28 other teams that would trade every pick they have for the guy.

  37. snoop24 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:59 PM

    Overrated for sure.
    Pack will want to keep this mediocre QB around as Rogers has Jelly head and won’t make it through the season without a concussion.

    Plus his isn’t worth anything more than a 4th round pick.

  38. blackqbwhiterb says: Aug 18, 2011 1:00 PM

    Based on what little I’ve seen of him, I’ll take him and roll the dice-Hey, I got Rex Grossman and John Beck, do ya blame me??

  39. PackersHome.com says: Aug 18, 2011 1:02 PM

    @305phinphan

    I agree, I thought someone like the Dolphins were going to offer a 4th or 3rd for Matt Flynn. Then again, maybe they did and Packers said no thanks?

  40. pencepost says: Aug 18, 2011 1:03 PM

    “If I have to hear one more story about how humble they are, I may puke all over my Mark Chmura jersey”

    ******

    Completely agree. Did you read Peter King’s MMQB about doing things “The Packer Way” and “acting like you’ve been there before”? It was all about how they aren’t raising banners to celebrate their championship because they want to act like titles are just the norm.

    Does anyone else think this is not humble at all, but extremely arrogant? Like it’s a mistake when they don’t win a championship? And has Peter King never seen Rodgers’ title belt pose after every TD… “acting like you’ve been there before”?

    Give me a break… Packers have been the most arrogant team and fan base even before they won the championship. This year will be unbearable.

    Of course, I’m a Bears fan living in WI so I have my obvious biases.

  41. pack1980 says: Aug 18, 2011 1:03 PM

    Trade him for a 1st or second rounder while you can still get something for him. He is going to walk next season anyways and we will get nothing in return aside from a supplemental pick the following year (3rd or 4th round?). I understand our need for a good backup QB, but in this situation, you almost need to get something in return. Once the season starts, the chances to trade him are slim to none. I would love to have him as our backup for the next 10 years, but it just can’t and won’t happen!

  42. trbowman says: Aug 18, 2011 1:09 PM

    Flynn could be a starter on some teams, easily.

  43. thehatefulnerd says: Aug 18, 2011 1:13 PM

    The PACK has the TWO best QBs in the division. Maybe the top THREE! And btw, we lost to the Skins and the Fins, because we lost the Claymaker for two games.
    The Fins won’t pursue Flynn, because they don’t run the WCO.
    Flynn’s arm improves every year under McCarthy. He’s no Favre or Rodgers, but he can get it done.

  44. woodyg says: Aug 18, 2011 1:16 PM

    You don’t trade your solid BU QB when you are on a run to a repeat SB Championship …….

    Even if Flynn becomes an UFA after the season & signs elsewhere, GB will pick up a high compensatory pick in the 2012 draft …… Keeping Flynn this year is smart …….

    TT/MM & the GB organization have set the standard for how to successfully operate a championship team …… The ‘other 31′ could learn a few things by keeping notes on how GB operates ….. It’s obvious, isn’t it ?? ……

  45. rpiotr01 says: Aug 18, 2011 1:17 PM

    We’re joking here, right? Flynn over Rodgers?

    Favre used to spend his training camps farting in Frank Winters’ face and trying to balance the football on top of his helmet. Then he’d go out and throw for 30+ TDs during the season.

    Flynn couldn’t do what Rodgers did against ATL in the playoffs in his wildest wet dream.

    What’s next, Ryan Mallet having a better camp than Tom Brady?

  46. philtration says: Aug 18, 2011 1:25 PM

    dirtybuc says: Aug 18, 2011 12:01 PM

    Rodgers simply doesn’t care…
    =====================================

    He probably brushed this off faster then he brushes off an old lady with cancer.

  47. Chuck Wood says: Aug 18, 2011 1:30 PM

    Just a thought… ponder this: What if Uncle Teddy traded A-Rodg to the Vikings for say- 3 1st round picks, 2 2nd rd picks and Ponder- moves Flynn to starter and armed with extra draft picks, the Pack reaps the benefits for years??? Would any fan like to see this? I can’t say I would complain about it…

  48. phelbin says: Aug 18, 2011 1:32 PM

    Aaron Rodgers is a superstar because he sat for a few years behind Favre. He matured, learned the NFL game, and got hungry. Flynn could be a good QB in a few years if he can do the same thing.

  49. chris6523 says: Aug 18, 2011 1:36 PM

    The packers won’t be trading Flynn for a few reasons. The first reason is that in reality it is just too late to trade a QB this offseason. The second reason is that they would be in really bad shape if Rodgers went down for an extended period. Flynn offers the pack hope that at least they could hold the fort in the event of a Rodgers injury. If the pack had a 3rd qb that they felt really good about, maybe. But that’s not the case. Third, Flynn is a free agent at the end of this season and will get a nice contract from someone and the pack will get a third rounder in the 2013 draft. This fact eliminates the possibility that Green Bay would take a 2012 second rounder for him (and no one would offer a first rounder, I don’t believe). Surrender a solid insurance policy for a draft pick one round earlier? Never gonna happen.

  50. thephantomstranger says: Aug 18, 2011 1:52 PM

    Chuck Wood says:
    Aug 18, 2011 1:30 PM
    Just a thought… ponder this: What if Uncle Teddy traded A-Rodg to the Vikings for say- 3 1st round picks, 2 2nd rd picks and Ponder- moves Flynn to starter and armed with extra draft picks, the Pack reaps the benefits for years??? Would any fan like to see this? I can’t say I would complain about it…
    ____________

    Good idea. The only problem is the Vikings already made that trade 20 years ago and they’re not going to do it again. Also, it wouldn’t be fair to A-Rodg because every Packer fan would immediately turn against him and proclaim that he was never any good in the first place and was holding the team back.

  51. Chuck Wood says: Aug 18, 2011 1:53 PM

    I think what will happen to Flynn is what the Pats did with Cassel… The Packers can assign the franchise tag to Flynn after the season is over- then let Flynn’s agent shop him around. Agents and teams act in good faith like this quite often. When they find a suitor and hammer out a deal- the pack loses nothing and gains what they trade him for- plus Flynn gets his choice of teams that are interested instead of being forced to go where the waiver is claimed.

  52. trappdaddy says: Aug 18, 2011 1:53 PM

    Flynn will be traded to the Buffalo Bills by Sept 1st. for a 2nd round pick (which may be the first pick of second round.)

  53. Chuck Wood says: Aug 18, 2011 2:21 PM

    thephantomstranger says:
    Aug 18, 2011 1:52 PM
    Good idea. The only problem is the Vikings already made that trade 20 years ago and they’re not going to do it again. Also, it wouldn’t be fair to A-Rodg because every Packer fan would immediately turn against him and proclaim that he was never any good in the first place and was holding the team back.
    ————————————————

    More like: “Good idea. The only problem is… Vikings fans would worship A-Rodg like the Second Coming of Lord Favre… and we all know that cannot happen until after A-Rodg retires 3 or 4 times.”

    Dude- quit being a hater. Your football IQ is clouded by jealousy and angst. I don’t know of a single Packer fan who said Favre was “never any good”. That would be idiotic as #4 helped win a Championship while in Green Bay. However- it’s already been proven that he was indeed holding the team back up until uncle Teddy traded him.

  54. trollhammer20 says: Aug 18, 2011 2:36 PM

    pencepost says:Aug 18, 2011 1:03 PM

    Give me a break… Packers have been the most arrogant team and fan base even before they won the championship. This year will be unbearable.
    _________________________________

    Go into any thread about the Oakland Raiders, and you’ll be proven wrong. They blabber about the silver-and-black tradition and “Raider Nation”, as if they didn’t suffer through 11 straight blackouts in 2009-2010, haven’t had a winning season since 2002, and set the NFL record for most consecutive 11-plus loss seasons from 2003 to 2009.

  55. minnesconsin says: Aug 18, 2011 2:49 PM

    woodyg says: Aug 18, 2011 1:16 PM

    You don’t trade your solid BU QB when you are on a run to a repeat SB Championship …….

    Even if Flynn becomes an UFA after the season & signs elsewhere, GB will pick up a high compensatory pick in the 2012 draft …… Keeping Flynn this year is smart …….
    ———

    ding ding ding ding. you are correct sir.

  56. thephantomstranger says: Aug 18, 2011 3:13 PM

    Chuck Wood says:
    Aug 18, 2011 1:53 PM
    I think what will happen to Flynn is what the Pats did with Cassel… The Packers can assign the franchise tag to Flynn after the season is over- then let Flynn’s agent shop him around. Agents and teams act in good faith like this quite often. When they find a suitor and hammer out a deal- the pack loses nothing and gains what they trade him for- plus Flynn gets his choice of teams that are interested instead of being forced to go where the waiver is claimed.
    ____________

    You don’t go through waivers when you’re an unrestricted free agent. And Flynn wouldn’t get his choice of teams who are interested, he would get whatever team makes the best offer to the Packers.

  57. minnesconsin says: Aug 18, 2011 3:14 PM

    I’d place Flynn at the same level as Kolb, Cassell, McCoy. Probably 3rd tier guys, but good enough to start in the NFL. Think he’d be an immediate upgrade over anyone on the following rosters:

    Miami Dolphins
    Buffalo Bills
    Cincinnati Bengals (assuming Carson is gone)
    Jacksonville Jaguars
    Denver Broncos
    Washington Redskins
    Carolina Panthers
    Seattle Seahawks
    San Francisco 49ers

    From that list, you can forget about Jax, Carolina, Cinci, and San Fran — they’re all convinced they got their QBs of the future in the draft this year so there’s no way they’re trading picks for Flynn anytime soon.

    So Miami, Buffalo, Denver, Washington, Seattle all make some sense.

  58. thephantomstranger says: Aug 18, 2011 3:18 PM

    Chuck Wood says:
    Aug 18, 2011 2:21 PM
    Dude- quit being a hater. Your football IQ is clouded by jealousy and angst. I don’t know of a single Packer fan who said Favre was “never any good”. That would be idiotic as #4 helped win a Championship while in Green Bay. However- it’s already been proven that he was indeed holding the team back up until uncle Teddy traded him.
    ___________

    You don’t get out much, do you? You also don’t read the comments on PFT much. I know several Packer fans who say they would have won more Super Bowls if not for Favre. You are correct that this opinion is idiotic. I don’t think it’s really been proven that Favre was holding the team back. They were 13-3 their last year with him and 6-10 the next year. The only major change was at QB, so he must have been doing something right.

  59. mountaindont says: Aug 18, 2011 3:45 PM

    When commenting, questioning, bashing or insulting the Packers please refer to them as “The Current World Champion Green Bay Packers”

  60. ikickgypsies says: Aug 18, 2011 3:46 PM

    thehatefulnerd says: Aug 18, 2011 1:13 PM

    The PACK has the TWO best QBs in the division. Maybe the top THREE!

    **********************

    You are literally as mad as a hatter. You probably make hats for a living and have been rendered legally insane by the fumes. Loons watch, shaking their heads sympathetically, whenever you walk past. Squirrels run away, shrieking hysterically, at the very sight of you. Your keeper should be fired immediately for having allowed you to post that comment. May God have mercy on your soul.

  61. spawnsacs says: Aug 18, 2011 4:11 PM

    thephantomstranger says:
    Aug 18, 2011 3:18 PM
    Chuck Wood says:
    Aug 18, 2011 2:21 PM
    Dude- quit being a hater. Your football IQ is clouded by jealousy and angst. I don’t know of a single Packer fan who said Favre was “never any good”. That would be idiotic as #4 helped win a Championship while in Green Bay. However- it’s already been proven that he was indeed holding the team back up until uncle Teddy traded him.
    ___________

    You don’t get out much, do you? You also don’t read the comments on PFT much. I know several Packer fans who say they would have won more Super Bowls if not for Favre. You are correct that this opinion is idiotic. I don’t think it’s really been proven that Favre was holding the team back. They were 13-3 their last year with him and 6-10 the next year. The only major change was at QB, so he must have been doing something right.
    ————————————————-
    Favre’s record in the playoffs his last 10 years as a Packer was 3-10. He single handedly blew 5 of those games with 3+ INT performances. He also blew an NFC Championship game with two late picks. Then he went to the ready made Vikings team in 2009 and did the same thing….blew the NFC Championship game with a last second INT.

    I would call that holding a team back….and your proof……or at the very least this shows you that he was preventing them from moving forward….

    The 6-10 season was a product of the nonsense fostered by trading Favre, a defense that could not hold a lead, and first year starter at QB.

  62. stellarperformance says: Aug 18, 2011 4:12 PM

    He’s good…no doubt about it. But he is no more confident now that Rodgers was when he first became a full-time starter. If Rodgers goes down with a concussion (if he has two, you can write his season off,) I feel very good about the ability of the Packers to remain competitive. This promises to be a different team than last year, with a credible running game, playoff-experienced D, and a very promising special teams. If Flynn gets called up, I can live with that. He’s probably already in the top fifteen without even breaking a sweat.

  63. footballrulz says: Aug 18, 2011 4:25 PM

    @ phantomstranger

    You really should be happy that Ted traded Favre when he did. If Favre had played behind that line that got Rodgers sacked so much in 2008 he would never have been available for that fluke 2009 season with the Vikes. He couldn’t have survived the beating.

  64. stellarperformance says: Aug 18, 2011 4:32 PM

    pencepost says:
    Aug 18, 2011 1:03 PM
    Packers have been the most arrogant team and fan base even before they won the championship.
    ————————————————-

    Yeah….so? YEAH…..SO? Very few fans of other teams have any idea how hard it is to carry the pride of a championship caliber team and atmosphere on your shoulders, and be humble at the same time. It’s a good feeling, but very very hard. You’ll be lucky to get there someday.

  65. ikickgypsies says: Aug 18, 2011 4:53 PM

    What if Uncle Teddy traded A-Rodg

    ***********************

    I’m assuming that anybody who refers to Bachelor Ted as “Uncle Teddy” would voluntarily sit on his knee for an extended period of time.

  66. paulharghis says: Aug 18, 2011 6:28 PM

    favreblows says:
    Aug 18, 2011 12:19 PM
    I could see a team giving up a late #1 for Flynn. I sure as hell would rather have him than Ponder. I mean, seriously. Flynn in his small sampling has looked better than Kolb…..and he brought in a #2 and a Pro Bowl corner. Granted….that was way too much and indicates a Paul Hargis type of mentality down in Phoenix. But, I wouldn’t give up Flynn unless the offer was a #1 or a #2 and some change.

    ===============================
    The guy played one game. Against a team that game planned for Rodgers.

    You’ve spewed some awfully inane crap in your time, but this is right up there.

    The sad thing is that you are actually stupid enough to believe the stuff you type.

    you’re supposed to stop the Q-tip when there is resistance.

  67. paulharghis says: Aug 18, 2011 6:34 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Aug 18, 2011 4:32 PM
    pencepost says:
    Aug 18, 2011 1:03 PM
    Packers have been the most arrogant team and fan base even before they won the championship.
    ————————————————-

    Yeah….so? YEAH…..SO? Very few fans of other teams have any idea how hard it is to carry the pride of a championship caliber team and atmosphere on your shoulders, and be humble at the same time. It’s a good feeling, but very very hard. You’ll be lucky to get there someday.

    ===================================
    Oooofa. Very few fan bases are this pathetic to think that being a fan entails “carrying the pride of the team”. Live vicariously through others much?

    Jesus, your post is one of the most sad pathetic things I’ve ever read.
    is your life that bad that the Packers are your saving grace?

    There is a great big world out there junior, you should check it out.

  68. badfish6907 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:17 PM

    There is a great big world out there junior, you should check it out.
    ————————————————————
    Says the guy who keeps coming back to a football blog where clearly no wants them around. The editors think you are such a retard the continuously ban you, yet here comes the retard sneaking his way back in to spread his pathetic loser opinions around.

    You are a loser. Always have been and always will be.

  69. paulharghis says: Aug 18, 2011 9:08 PM

    badfish6907 says:
    Aug 18, 2011 8:17 PM
    There is a great big world out there junior, you should check it out.
    ————————————————————
    Says the guy who keeps coming back to a football blog where clearly no wants them around. The editors think you are such a retard the continuously ban you, yet here comes the retard sneaking his way back in to spread his pathetic loser opinions around.

    You are a loser. Always have been and always will be.

    =================================
    Another turd heard from. If I’m such a “loser” and “retard”, why do you pay attention? Why would you care about my opinions at all? Why wouldn’t you just scroll by?
    I find it odd that you chose not to post about Flynn and how well he is “supposedly” doing at PRACTICE, but concentrated on me.
    What does that say about YOU? Fish in a barrel……..

    By the way, I got kicked off, because I wasn’t PC enough, I used curse words and other things of that nature. Things the supposed adults on here couldn’t handle reading. I have since modified my postings, so I guess you’ll have to deal with me.

    Maybe if you and every other Packer sheep would ignore me, I’d go away, I doubt it, but you could try.

    BTW Flynn sucks.

  70. sincitycheeze says: Aug 18, 2011 9:19 PM

    PackersHome.com says:
    Aug 18, 2011 11:28 AM
    Wonderful, just what we needed, a QB controversy in Green Bay. There goes the Super Bowl hopes for 2011

    Sounds Like A “ZERO” comment to me

  71. badfish6907 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:29 PM

    Hmm I used to use curse words all the time here. Never got banned. Sounds like an excuse to me.

    As far as Flynn goes? Just another training camp story. Stuff like this happens all the time. Remember a guy named Matt Hasselbeck?

  72. badfish6907 says: Aug 18, 2011 10:02 PM

    Maybe the Eagles would be interested in Flynn. LOL

  73. axespray says: Aug 18, 2011 11:11 PM

    Dude, Favre had less playing time back when he was a backup with the falcons, we traded a 1st rounder for him, got 16 mostly great years from him (first 2 years/99-2000/05-06 were awful).

    Not saying a team will throw a 1st rounder for Flynn, just that crazier things have happened before…. but Flynn could drastically improve several team’s QB posistions (miami/sanfran to name a few)

  74. thephantomstranger says: Aug 18, 2011 11:18 PM

    axespray says:
    Aug 18, 2011 11:11 PM
    Dude, Favre had less playing time back when he was a backup with the falcons, we traded a 1st rounder for him, got 16 mostly great years from him (first 2 years/99-2000/05-06 were awful).

    Not saying a team will throw a 1st rounder for Flynn, just that crazier things have happened before…. but Flynn could drastically improve several team’s QB posistions (miami/sanfran to name a few)
    ____________

    Favre was a rookie and a high draft choice. He had a lot of potential. Flynn is a former 7th-round choice who has played a game and a half. furedmccombs said it best when he pointed out that T-Jack always looked good in training camp too.

  75. axespray says: Aug 18, 2011 11:19 PM

    paulharghis says:Aug 18, 2011 6:34 PM
    “Oooofa. Very few fan bases are this pathetic to think that being a fan entails “carrying the pride of the team”. Live vicariously through others much?
    Jesus, your post is one of the most sad pathetic things I’ve ever read.
    is your life that bad that the Packers are your saving grace?
    There is a great big world out there junior, you should check it out.”

    —————————–
    A team’s fanbase takes pride in their team and you’re angry about it?
    Seriously?
    I bet you quit on Call of duty games cause “The other guys kep shooting me!”
    Quit crying, we get it, The Packer’s fans love their team, it gets under your skin… for some reason…
    (plays a sad tune with a violin)

  76. nflpuppetmaster says: Aug 19, 2011 12:05 AM

    No one is going to give the Packers anything for Flynn. He’s an unproven commodity with one game of live NFL experience under his belt. He did look good, but it was one game. He also doesn’t have the pedigree. Trading for a former first or second rounder is one thing, but you don’t waste a high draft pick on a former undrafted free agent with limited experience. Not to mention its too late to bring in a QB to team and expect him to start right away, which is what you would do if you trade a high draft pick for a player. Finally, why would you trade a high draft pick for a player you know will be an unrestricted free agent next year.

  77. stellarperformance says: Aug 19, 2011 8:42 AM

    paulharghis says:
    Aug 18, 2011 6:34 PM
    There is a great big world out there junior, you should check it out.
    ——————————————–

    You couldn’t handle the world I live in son….take my word for it. And I for one could care less how often you post here. I find you to be mildly amusing…sort of like a drunk that pees in his pants at the State Fair. The same guy that is talking too loud just to get people to turn and look at him.

  78. stellarperformance says: Aug 19, 2011 8:48 AM

    paulharghis says:
    Aug 18, 2011 6:34 PM
    Very few fan bases (are this pathetic to) think that being a fan entails “carrying the pride of the team”.
    ——————————————-

    How would you know what this feels like? And you’re right…very few fanbases understand this condition because there are so few tradtional and historic winners out there that set the pace. The Celtics and Yankee fans get it. Patriot and Steelers fans too. Sorry you got left out.

  79. theytukrjobs says: Aug 19, 2011 5:13 PM

    Trash talk is fun, especially when you live in an area with lots of rival transplants that you work with or even are friends with. But if you find yourself saying stuff like “we creamed you guys last week” too often then you are bordering on being a complete tool.

    As a fan you have nothing to do with your team’s actions or success. You are not part of the “we” equation. They don’t even know you. You can take it seriously but you shouldn’t be bragging about how well they do. That is juvenile and usually a good indicator that you are a tool shed.

    I mean this isn’t high school. You don’t have family members and friends on the team. It isn’t your brother’s kid that is the QB. They didn’t all grow up in your home town. These are millionaire jocks that come from across the country randomly getting together and bashing heads.

    Not “we”. It is “they”.

  80. paulharghis says: Aug 19, 2011 5:39 PM

    axespray says:
    Aug 18, 2011 11:19 PM
    paulharghis says:Aug 18, 2011 6:34 PM
    “Oooofa. Very few fan bases are this pathetic to think that being a fan entails “carrying the pride of the team”. Live vicariously through others much?
    Jesus, your post is one of the most sad pathetic things I’ve ever read.
    is your life that bad that the Packers are your saving grace?
    There is a great big world out there junior, you should check it out.”

    —————————–
    A team’s fanbase takes pride in their team and you’re angry about it?
    Seriously?
    I bet you quit on Call of duty games cause “The other guys kep shooting me!”
    Quit crying, we get it, The Packer’s fans love their team, it gets under your skin… for some reason…
    (plays a sad tune with a violin)

    ===============================
    There is taking pride in your team, then, there is out and out delusion. The latter is the Packer fanbase. By the way, I’m not angry. I can stand Packer fans whether they are 4-12 or SuperBowl champs.
    Next. Call of duty? Really?! You still play video games? What are you? 15? You sure post like it.

    What gets under my skin is the biased homeristic view of your team. Every fan has a little homer in them, but you fools take it to the Nth degree.

  81. paulharghis says: Aug 19, 2011 5:44 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Aug 19, 2011 8:42 AM
    paulharghis says:
    Aug 18, 2011 6:34 PM
    There is a great big world out there junior, you should check it out.
    ——————————————–

    You couldn’t handle the world I live in son….take my word for it. And I for one could care less how often you post here. I find you to be mildly amusing…sort of like a drunk that pees in his pants at the State Fair. The same guy that is talking too loud just to get people to turn and look at him.
    =================================
    Uff. Look kids, it’s an internet tough guy. My God man, you know nothing about me. You think you can tell if ” I could or couldn’t handle the world you live in” by words on a computer screen? C’mon man.
    If I do something in my pants, it’s going to be a deuce. It’s happened a few times.
    I’m not the guy talking too loud. I’m the guy that come on here to roust you packer fans.

    You should just ignore me, but you can’t. You can’t just let things go by, you HAVE to respond.

  82. paulharghis says: Aug 19, 2011 6:24 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Aug 19, 2011 8:48 AM
    paulharghis says:
    Aug 18, 2011 6:34 PM
    Very few fan bases (are this pathetic to) think that being a fan entails “carrying the pride of the team”.
    ——————————————-

    How would you know what this feels like? And you’re right…very few fanbases understand this condition because there are so few tradtional and historic winners out there that set the pace. The Celtics and Yankee fans get it. Patriot and Steelers fans too. Sorry you got left out.

    ================================
    Nah, I didn’t get left out. There you go assuming that you know anything at all about me.

    Baseball- Twins fan- 3 championships
    Basketball- Celtics fan-17 championships
    Coll. Football- Oklahoma fan- 7 national championships.
    Sorry, I guess i didn’t get left out.

    I’m a fan- not part of the team- I don’t “carry the freaking pride”.

  83. stellarperformance says: Aug 20, 2011 7:51 AM

    paulharghis says: Aug 19, 2011 6:24 PM

    Baseball- Twins fan- 3 championships
    Basketball- Celtics fan-17 championships
    Coll. Football- Oklahoma fan- 7 national championships.

    Sorry, I guess i didn’t get left out. I’m a fan- not part of the team- I don’t “carry the freaking pride”.
    ——————————————————————-

    ….but you know exactly how many championships your favorite teams have? You are contradicting yourself DB. BTW…this is a Pro Football site. You may want to check out EverythingElseTalk.com.

  84. stellarperformance says: Aug 20, 2011 7:59 AM

    paulharghis says: Aug 19, 2011 5:44 PM

    I’m the guy that come on here to roust you packer fans. You should just ignore me, but you can’t. You can’t just let things go by, you HAVE to respond.
    ——————————————————————-

    I don’t need to ignore you. As I said, I find you mildly amusing. Can’t let things go? Were you talking to yourself in the mirror again? You remind me of the befuddled neighborhood kid that peeled his apples before he ate them. Not dangerous, just living in a world in which he could tolerate himself.

  85. paulharghis says: Aug 20, 2011 3:10 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Aug 20, 2011 7:51 AM
    paulharghis says: Aug 19, 2011 6:24 PM

    Baseball- Twins fan- 3 championships
    Basketball- Celtics fan-17 championships
    Coll. Football- Oklahoma fan- 7 national championships.

    Sorry, I guess i didn’t get left out. I’m a fan- not part of the team- I don’t “carry the freaking pride”.
    ——————————————————————-

    ….but you know exactly how many championships your favorite teams have? You are contradicting yourself DB. BTW…this is a Pro Football site. You may want to check out EverythingElseTalk.com.

    =================================
    Of course I know how many. Not contradicting myself at all. The big difference is that normal people don’t go shoving championships in everyones face. They also do not act like they are part of the team and had something to do with the wins.
    What you and everyone Packer fan contributed to last year was sitting in the stands or on your couch, eating brats and cheese curds.
    BTW, you are the one that brought up Championship caliber teams from other sports, you dumb a$$.
    Nice try though.

  86. paulharghis says: Aug 20, 2011 3:17 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Aug 20, 2011 7:59 AM
    paulharghis says: Aug 19, 2011 5:44 PM

    I’m the guy that come on here to roust you packer fans. You should just ignore me, but you can’t. You can’t just let things go by, you HAVE to respond.
    ——————————————————————-

    I don’t need to ignore you. As I said, I find you mildly amusing. Can’t let things go? Were you talking to yourself in the mirror again? You remind me of the befuddled neighborhood kid that peeled his apples before he ate them. Not dangerous, just living in a world in which he could tolerate himself.

    =============================
    I have nothing to let go. I told you I’m on here saying caustic things- to get a reaction.
    You idiots STILL feel you just HAVE to respond.
    It’s pretty comical. It is shooting fish in a barrel.

    You remind me of the neighborhood kid that everyone picked on, until we found out you had some money on you. Maqde you buy us things, pretended we were your freinds, then ditched you after you paid for the stuff.
    I have no problems with who i am, i love my life.
    Again, trying to play Dr. Freud?
    You are judging a person on a website you don’t know anything about. Stick to talking about the Packers, you don’t know much about football either, but sadly, that seems to be your strong suit. That isn’t saying much.

  87. stellarperformance says: Aug 20, 2011 4:23 PM

    paulharghis says: Aug 20, 2011 3:17 PM
    You remind me of the neighborhood kid that everyone picked on, until we found out (he) had some money on (him.) Made (him) buy us things, pretended we were (his) friends, then ditched (him) after (he) paid for the stuff.

    You are judging a person on a website you don’t know anything about.
    ——————————————————————-

    Really? Who’s judging you? You’ve already told us all there is to know about you, no pre-judging required. All previous assumptions fit you to a “T.” You should take your own advice and quit while you’re ahead. You’re too stupid to know how stupid you are.

  88. paulharghis says: Aug 20, 2011 5:05 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Aug 20, 2011 4:23 PM
    paulharghis says: Aug 20, 2011 3:17 PM
    You remind me of the neighborhood kid that everyone picked on, until we found out (he) had some money on (him.) Made (him) buy us things, pretended we were (his) friends, then ditched (him) after (he) paid for the stuff.

    You are judging a person on a website you don’t know anything about.
    ——————————————————————-

    Really? Who’s judging you? You’ve already told us all there is to know about you, no pre-judging required. All previous assumptions fit you to a “T.” You should take your own advice and quit while you’re ahead. You’re too stupid to know how stupid you are.

    ==================================
    Honestly turd. Look at what you just typed.
    No prejudging- all assumptions correct- you idiot.

    I’m way ahead there junior- you’re wasting your time commenting on me, instead of the story.

    I used “you” instead of the pronouns, because I’m positive that was a stroll down memory lane for you.
    You honestly think that you thinking I’m stupid actually matters to me? Why do a majority of the fools on this website obsess over absolute strangers?
    That you keep responding to a person that has given you his M.O. for commenting, speaks volumes for YOUR intelligence level.

    There is nothing you can type on here that is going to offend me, or piss me off.
    So, either walk away, or continue to beat your head against the wall. It makes no difference to me one way or another.
    Just know that you’ll look like a moron in the process.

  89. stellarperformance says: Aug 20, 2011 6:01 PM

    paulharghis says: Aug 20, 2011 5:05 PM
    You honestly think that you thinking I’m stupid actually matters to me?
    ————————————————————–

    Yes….confirmed by the fact that you are addicted to responding when you know you shouldn’t.

  90. stellarperformance says: Aug 20, 2011 6:15 PM

    paulharghis says: Aug 20, 2011 5:05 PM
    Why do a majority of the fools on this website obsess over absolute strangers? That you keep responding to a person that has given you his M.O. for commenting,……(blah, blah, blah.)
    ——————————————————————

    Nobody is offended or impressed by you on this site, and as a result, nobody cares if you stay or go. You don’t get under our skin and your comments are predictable and inane.

    As I said before, you are found to be mildly amusing. You are like a sidewalk monkey…..we pull your chain and you jump up and down and squeal.

    Watch closely….you’re about to do it again!

  91. paulharghis says: Aug 21, 2011 6:55 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Aug 20, 2011 6:15 PM
    paulharghis says: Aug 20, 2011 5:05 PM
    Why do a majority of the fools on this website obsess over absolute strangers? That you keep responding to a person that has given you his M.O. for commenting,……(blah, blah, blah.)
    ——————————————————————

    Nobody is offended or impressed by you on this site, and as a result, nobody cares if you stay or go. You don’t get under our skin and your comments are predictable and inane.

    As I said before, you are found to be mildly amusing. You are like a sidewalk monkey…..we pull your chain and you jump up and down and squeal.

    Watch closely….you’re about to do it again!

    ================================
    Where is my tin cup to collect the change with?

    Seriously? You just repackaged my post and presented it a bit differently. Real original.

    I don’t care if anyome is offended or impressed.
    I do this for a reaction- reactions which i continue to get from weak minds such as yourself.

    I’m on here to entertain myself- it works out nicely for me.

    No amount of lame analogies is going to get me to stop.

    Keep the hits coming, I’m laughing at you.

    You can’t insult me dude, I could care less who you are and what you say about me. this is entertaining to me- what don’t you get about that?

    Come on now, dazzle me with a new post.

    Something like I’m the gy walking around the party with toilet paper stuck to my shoe, or some other such nonsense.

    What, did you read a Slappy White book of put downs or something?

    Call me a monkey again- that one really hurt.

  92. stellarperformance says: Aug 22, 2011 9:35 AM

    paulharghis says:
    Aug 21, 2011 6:55 PM
    You can’t insult me dude, I could care less who you are and what you say about me. this is entertaining to me- what don’t you get about that?
    ———————————————

    A predictable “welcome back” to you monkey boy. Jump monkey, jump!

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