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Vick says he didn’t want to play for the Eagles

Eagles quarterbacks Vick and Young watch a replay while playing against the Baltimore Ravens in a NFL preseason football game in Philadelphia Pennsylvania Reuters

In an interview with GQ that was published at the magazine’s website moments ago, Eagles quarterback Mike Vick tells Will Leitch that Vick, the 2010 Associated Press Comeback Player of the Year, didn’t want to play for the Eagles.

“I think I can say this now, because it’s not going to hurt anybody’s feelings, and it’s the truth. . . .  I didn’t want to come to Philadelphia,” Vick said.  “Being the third-team quarterback is nothing to smile about.  Cincinnati and Buffalo were better options.”

Vick ultimately was persuaded — by Commissioner Roger Goodell and other NFL officials — to pick the Eagles.  Bills and Bengals fans surely will be thrilled to know that the league office is participating in personnel decisions; they also would probably want to know why Vick was steered away from their teams.  (Leitch writes that both the Bills and Bengals would have “allowed Vick to start”; it’s hard to imagine that the Bengals would have benched the guy they currently refuse to trade.)

The old Mike Vick would have ignored Goodell and anyone else who told him anything other than that which Vick wanted to do; the new Mike Vick heeds such advice.  But the old Mike Vick still made a cameo appearance during the interview, when he took the position that only the media cares about his history of dogfighting, gambling, and . . . what else was there?  Oh yeah, killing in cold blood dogs that were deemed unfit to fight other dogs.

“They are writing as if everyone feels that way and has the same opinions they do,” Vick said.  “But when I go out in public, it’s all positive, so that’s obviously not true.”

We’re not sure we buy that logic.  When it’s time to sniff jocks, lots of people become more than a little phony.  Then there’s the fact that we all love a good redemption story, so we all root for Vick on his ride back to the top.

The media, frankly, is part of that.  Plenty of reporters have moved on completely from Vick’s dogfighting days, and it will be a major issue again only if the Eagles make it to the Super Bowl and Vick is subjected to the intense scrutiny that goes along with it.

Or if Vick starts fighting dogs again.

We doubt that the latter will ever come to fruition, but from time to time we see periodic flashes of the old Mike Vick, like when he bailed on his interview with Oprah Winfrey.  And even if the new Mike Vick is smart enough to never fight dogs again, there are other ways in which the old Mike Vick can make trouble for the new Mike Vick.

The new Mike Vick realizes that it’s important to demonstrate contrition for his crimes.  But the old Mike Vick inches closer to the surface at times, indignant over the fact that he went to jail for something that he’d probably still be doing if he hadn’t been caught.

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  1. slippyal2 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:09 AM

    As a Bills fan I really wanted him, but I knew Dick Jauron would suck the life out of him. He went to a place that was right for him. There were some Bills fans who didn’t want to touch him for the dog fighting, but other idiots said “we have Trent Edwards”.

  2. skoobyfl says: Aug 18, 2011 7:10 AM

    The league’s been steering everything away from Buffalo after the 4th Superbowl loss, so is this a surprise ??

    Music city miracle ?? I’d say Musical ring on the phone from “league officials” saying a legal throwback.

  3. contract says: Aug 18, 2011 7:10 AM

    “Vick ultimately was persuaded — by Commissioner Roger Goodell and other NFL officials — to pick the Eagles. ”

    OH MY GOODNESS!

    Someone please fire Roger Goodell! The man is out of control. The commissioner has absolutely no business steering player to or away from ANY team(s)!

  4. robinyount19 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:11 AM

    Enough of this “old Vick, new Vick” BS. It’s the same guy. He was only sorry because he got caught, and he’d still be fighting dogs if he hadn’t. Period.

  5. karlpilkington says: Aug 18, 2011 7:12 AM

    I hate Mike Vick, but it looks like dude has learned his lesson….. However the bigger question is why was he steered away from those other teams? That seems a bit shady to me.

    HTTR

  6. nflofficeadmin says: Aug 18, 2011 7:20 AM

    Deep down, people rarely change.

  7. madpunter88 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:20 AM

    I find it difficult to believe that the Bengals would have benched Carson Palmer two years ago to allow Vick to start.

    And it is quite troubling that the commissioner is involved in deciding which team signs free agents.

  8. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Aug 18, 2011 7:23 AM

    Same old Mike. He seriously believes that the only people who think he messed up are the media. I really think he also believes that no one else ever thought he was wrong but the media too. ALWAYS blaming someone else. I have some advice for you sir, keep your damn mouth shut from now on. Just do your thing on the field and sooner or later people will move on. No one will ever forget it, but those of us who had moved on already, don’t need new reasons to think you are a complete moron.

  9. abr173rd says: Aug 18, 2011 7:23 AM

    Aside from Vick being a horrible role model and person overall, I find it interesting that Roger Goodell and other league officials outside of the actual franchises were giving Vick advice advice on what team to play for????

  10. racerx220 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:25 AM

    Well it’s not like the eagles fans asked for him but its nice to know how the league forced the issue.

  11. lockoftheweak says: Aug 18, 2011 7:27 AM

    Given Andy’s problems with his own son, I can’t think of a better place for Vick to play than the Philadelphia Beagles er, I mean Eagles.

  12. cambodianbreastmilk says: Aug 18, 2011 7:28 AM

    How is this not considered “Tampering” by the Commissioner to persuade Vick to go to Eagles? WTF!?

  13. scudbot says: Aug 18, 2011 7:30 AM

    The new Mike Vick isn’t killing dogs for profit any longer but is more full of patently obvious self-serving bs than the old one was. I’ll give him credit for being smart enough to know that legions of jock sniffers and homers will buy it no matter what. I’m not ready to nominate him for the Mr. High Character award. He is what he was, although his passing is better.

  14. pftstory says: Aug 18, 2011 7:30 AM

    Then there’s the fact that we all love a good redemption story, so we all root for Vick on his ride back to the top.

    ALL? Are you kidding me? Have you not read the comments here? How can you be so dense to use that generalization. Heck read the wave of commnets that will be of the slant “I aint rooting for that A-hole” that are sure to follow.

    Yes we will see the “why you all hatin on Vick?” comments too. Some (though few) will present a logical arguement as to why people shouldn’t. But most won’t.

    But I’ll start….I ain’t rooting for that A-hole. I’d rather see Vick hit by an SUV then Harrington.

  15. jmv5010 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:31 AM

    “Then there’s the fact that we all love a good redemption story, so we all root for Vick on his ride back to the top.”

    We all root for Vick, huh? While people may accept that he paid his debt to society and has a right to play football again, not everyone is rooting for him.

  16. MichaelEdits says: Aug 18, 2011 7:34 AM

    That dog won’t hunt.

  17. EJ says: Aug 18, 2011 7:37 AM

    Thats ok, Vick is good and all, but I’d rather have “The Amish Rifle,” as my QB. It makes it that much better being the underdog and succeeding, rather than already being the bigshot.

    Go Fitz!!!!
    Go Bills!!!!

  18. edmazeing1 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:38 AM

    I doubt he would be one of the top 10 qbs with both team OLine!!!

  19. edukator4 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:40 AM

    if that is true about goodell steering him, and probably others then, he needs to leave as commisioner. whether he quits or is removed by the league it does not matter. the league and his credibility are in question

  20. southridge23 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:42 AM

    I fn hate Roger goodell

    – bills fan

  21. angrycorgi says: Aug 18, 2011 7:43 AM

    So the league told Vick NOT to play at Buffalo or Cincy? That sucks for Buffalo, especially. They could have been competitive in a tough division with a real QB.

  22. 2009kenny says: Aug 18, 2011 7:44 AM

    Please, let’s try something else. There are preseason games to be played today. What else do you want Vick to say or do? At times we act as if we are all saints.

  23. mattyc says: Aug 18, 2011 7:48 AM

    All other 31 Front Offices should keep this on record. That way, when they are accused of “collusion”, all they need to do is present this incident where Mr. Goodell & other league officials colluded to sway a player toward a certain team, for the benefit of the league & that team.

    There is no way to spin it either, regardless of their reasoning, this is no different from say Atlanta telling Ray Edwards that they would love to see him in a Falcons uniform, while he is still with the Vikings, knowing he is going to be an upcoming FA.

  24. 2ndaryinsanity says: Aug 18, 2011 7:49 AM

    If this is true, I find it disturbing that Roger Goodell would try to influence where a player signed. How can the leauge justify punishing teams for tampering with other organizations’ players if the commissioner is using his position to do the same damn thing? Talk about being a hypocrite! HOWEVER, with Vick’s history of being a liar… I’m not convinced things went down like Vick is claiming. Vick is either delusional or an idiot if he really believes no one besides the media cares about his past. Many people (especially those of us who are not Eagles fans) despise Mike Vick. And many of us are NOT rooting for Vick’s “comeback”/redemption. We’re rooting for him to break his fu$%# leg.

  25. sj39 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:50 AM

    Whatever, dog killer. I just can’t wait to see you in St. Louis on the 11th. Got a few DE’s and LB’s I want to introduce you to.

  26. addictedtolost says: Aug 18, 2011 7:51 AM

    Wow. That is all.

  27. japdouds says: Aug 18, 2011 7:53 AM

    More of Lord God-dell tampering with this league. Does nobody else have a problem with the commissioner of a league telling an unrestricted free agent that he can’t sign with a certain team and should sign with another?

    I think the players association should go after his head for this one. It also TARNISHES THE SHIELD, as God-dell likes to say, knowing that the commish is preventing fair free agency and tampering with which teams get players.

    Outraged!

  28. mac3333 says: Aug 18, 2011 7:56 AM

    Collusion Mr Goodell. No other word for it.

    As a Bengals fan I find this favoritism highly suspect.

    The Commissioner shouldn’t be giving ANY advice on where players sign on the dotted line.

    Its not like either Cincinnati or Buffalo could have used a player of such caliber. Oh wait …

    Small market fans see the Shields favoritism towards the big markets continually. This is just another egregious example …

  29. broncobeta says: Aug 18, 2011 7:57 AM

    “… the fact that he went to jail for something that he’d probably still be doing if he hadn’t been caught.”

    I wonder about that sometimes. It’s nice to see someone turn their life around, but you wonder how much of it you can take at face value.

  30. caseysarasota says: Aug 18, 2011 7:58 AM

    On behalf of all Philly Fans: Thank you Roger Goodell for showing Vick the way. THANK. YOU.

    Lets go Birds!

  31. greenbirdbacker says: Aug 18, 2011 7:58 AM

    But the old Mike Vick inches closer to the surface at times, indignant over the fact that he went to jail for something that he’d probably still be doing if he hadn’t been caught.
    ——————————————-

    The “News” here is that other teams were interested, but that Vick listened to great advice and signed with a class orginization, retooled his game to a new height, and is now turning his life around. Somehow, you tuned that into “he’d problay still be” fighting dogs. Either break a story (yeah, right!) or link to those that can, or just go work for ESPN, you merril hoge wannabe.
    And the hell with Oprah…

  32. managod777 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:00 AM

    The fact of the matter is that most fans would love to see Michael Vick fail. I just hope Michael is strengthened by all of this. If you’ve never done anything wrong, feel free to judge. But if you’ve done things you wouldn’t tell someone else, be thankful for the grace of God that your secret is kept. How will you people respond if the unbelievable happens (NFL MVP, Superbowl winner)? I guess he’ll just be gosh-darn lucky.

  33. elgramo84 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:01 AM

    Oh Roger you are the worst commish the league has ever seen.if I owned the browns or bills I’d be looking into legal matters with ol Roger interfering with free agency

  34. seanb20124 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:01 AM

    Wish Goodell had assigned him to the Washington Redskins

  35. knucklehead93 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:03 AM

    The league should fine Goodell for tampering.

  36. cletus vandamm 5200 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:04 AM

    when i heard vick changed his mind on oprah winfrey, i said, damn this gangsta is on the road to destruction

    i cant belive he is still in the league

  37. cletus vandamm 5200 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:09 AM

    no matter what vick does, certain media will always end the story with what vick did in the past, just so us folks dont forget.

    they should understand that we didnt forget, its just some of us have moved on and think the guy deserves to live his life.

  38. mrkolcun says: Aug 18, 2011 8:12 AM

    Forgiven, but not forgotten of what he’s done. but at least he loves our city of brotherly love, Eagles and aim to bring us the Lombradi Trophy!

  39. jfurey says: Aug 18, 2011 8:14 AM

    and tell me why the hell roger goodell can tell a player where he can go. oh yeah, the nfl is fixed also. check out brian touhy on google. the fix is in . net , this will explain everything!!!!!!!

  40. bigtony300 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:16 AM

    This guy will always be a sadistic piece of garbage as far as I am concerned. With all the money and resources at his fingertips, he still chose to kill domestic animals for his entertainment. How sick is that? But because he is playing great football now I guess that makes it easier to overlook for most football fans…..sad. You can put lipstick on a pig but it will always be a pig.

  41. bdawk20 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:17 AM

    No surprise here – we were all shocked when the Eagles announced the signing as it did not make sense. Sometimes the best things come from the unexpected though.

  42. foobarfoofoo says: Aug 18, 2011 8:19 AM

    “New”?

    There is no “new” Vick. He is the same turd he was before. Anybody who gives this guy a long term extension is either totally stupid or doesn’t care about his personality

  43. mdpickles says: Aug 18, 2011 8:19 AM

    Something tells me that Andy Reid and company were telling Vick that he wouldn’t be the third QB for long….besides, he would not have flourished in Cinn or Buff.

  44. foobarfoofoo says: Aug 18, 2011 8:20 AM

    Or, as the marketing guys say “It’s my job to spray paint this road kill”

  45. paperlions says: Aug 18, 2011 8:20 AM

    The lockout wasn’t really over money. The owners wanted to be able to employ various unseemly techniques (electrocution, hanging, drowning, shooting) to kill players that were unfit to play in the NFL, and the union just wasn’t going for that…

  46. bigtony300 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:21 AM

    Boo hoo, he didn’t want to make millions in Philly. I wonder how many of the dogs he killed wanted “play” for Bad Newz kennels?

  47. thegreatwhitemidget says: Aug 18, 2011 8:22 AM

    As a bills fan I’d like to say **** ********** **** you godell go ******* **** *** and to Vick **** you, bills still suck

  48. wawa33 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:24 AM

    As a diehard Eagles fan, I still don’t want him to play for the Eagles.

  49. jeffro33 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:25 AM

    As an Eagles fan who was puzzled when he was first signed, I can say that I have been worried about his reverting back to the Old Mike Vick since he returned to prominence.

    Something tells me that the Eagles feel the same way through their not signing him to a long-term extension yet. Could Vick become frivolous again when his next contract relieves him of his massive debts? Possibly…

    Some people just don’t know how to handle success, and whether or not we’ve been fooled by the Mike Vick Redemption Tour is yet to be seen. Parts of this interview pointed out above show that he may still not get it, unfortunately.

    Myself, I’d just like to see him continue to focus on football because that is what is helping him rebuild his image more than anything else.

  50. bengalsown says: Aug 18, 2011 8:29 AM

    How can anyone support the commissioner of football steering players to a certain team?

    That’s the worse thing I can imagine a commissioner doing.

  51. jacunn2000 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:30 AM

    Why wouldn’t you want to play for the Eagles?? They have such wonderful supportive fans…….

  52. vickspreadherpes says: Aug 18, 2011 8:33 AM

    Eagle fans to Mike:

    “We are sooo glad you picked us Mike!! We don’t care what you did to animals & women, we do worse every Sunday to opposing fans in our own stadium!”

    The most pathetic fans in the NFL.

  53. stihlguy says: Aug 18, 2011 8:33 AM

    It appears Cincinnati is struggling to find 1 starting QB this year. Who knows what they would have done with 2 on the depth chart. Perhaps a variation of the Wishbone offense with 2 QBs in the backfield? I’ve seen crazier things from Mike Brown.

  54. stillersfan says: Aug 18, 2011 8:34 AM

    I will never be totally OK with Vick, but I really want to let this guy go about his business…but is it too much to ask that if he expects to continue to be a redemption story, he should not be saying things that could even possibly be interpreted to be lacking of remorse? Wasn’t he just interviewed a few months ago, and stated that he thought his prison sentence was too long?

  55. seneca1ss says: Aug 18, 2011 8:36 AM

    Between twitter and PFT, the more these guys say something the more I don’t wanna know them

  56. clintonportisheadd says: Aug 18, 2011 8:36 AM

    “They are writing as if everyone feels that way and has the same opinions they do,” Vick said. “But when I go out in public, it’s all positive, so that’s obviously not true.”

    ———————–

    Tell you what ace. Go wander around the tailgaters in Green Bay (minus the entourage and 300 lb bodyguards) and lets put you “folks don’t care I killed dogs” theory to the test. You up for it? Nah…I didn’t think so.

  57. creo13 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:38 AM

    You are spot on with flashes of the old Vick showing up from time to time. I notice it in his demeanor in interviews nowadays. It’s one of the downfalls of time passed. People (including perpetrators of crime) tend to find it easier to gloss over the past and it’s consequences as time passes. Here’s to hoping the new Vick keeps winning the war over the old Vick. Eventhough the old Vick is winning a few battles of late.

  58. thekingdp says: Aug 18, 2011 8:38 AM

    Cancelling Oprah was probably the smartest thing Vick ever did. Why is that used as an example of “the old Vick”? He avoided a situation that had the POTENTIAL to be a complete fiasco on national television. I actually applaud him for telling Oprah “No thanks, I’ll send a snack-basket instead”..

  59. donovanmcflabb says: Aug 18, 2011 8:38 AM

    I am Eagles fan who first met the Vick signing with chagrin, but, of course, he’s grown on me.

    That being said, it’s absolute BS that the league would have ANYTHING at all to do with what team ANY players signs. The league’s involvement in Vick choosing a team is indefensible.

  60. goawayeverybody says: Aug 18, 2011 8:38 AM

    The Eagles will never win the Super Bowl.

  61. crackerjack1 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:39 AM

    The league should fine Goodell heavily for tampering. Oh wait, Goodell is still the only one involved in handing out fines. I guess he can do anything he wants without any repercussion.

  62. eagleempire says: Aug 18, 2011 8:40 AM

    Can we move on from the dog fighting??? It’s tired. Everyone knows he was a P.O.S. How about tell the story how he helped break up a dog fighting ring in North Philly a few months ago. Why not tell about how he is going out to area schools to talk to kids about not making the same mistakes he made. Let’s be honest…most people don’t change their bad ways (if at all) until there is a consequence for their actions that gets them in hot water. At least is trying to do something to influence kids in a positive way now.
    All these other fans that are going to bash him here wished he was on their team, because love it or hate it, he is one hell of a football player!

  63. GG Eden says: Aug 18, 2011 8:40 AM

    This reminds me of when Commissioner Pete Rozelle had a hand in steering John Elway from the Raiders to the Broncos, to ‘get back at’ Al Davis.

  64. benberger says: Aug 18, 2011 8:40 AM

    Wow, talk about burying the lead. Isn’t Goodell’s role in this the much bigger story? This is a huge problem.

  65. japdouds says: Aug 18, 2011 8:41 AM

    I’m curious if Bills and Bengals fans will demand Goodell’s head for this one. I know I would.

  66. drstrangelust says: Aug 18, 2011 8:43 AM

    I hope this joke is the biggest flop of the year! Hate Philly!

  67. onegr8mick says: Aug 18, 2011 8:43 AM

    With our fans who with a shaky past would ever want to come here. I love them dont get me wrong Im one of them but with Vick and Young we can be brutal given any ammo, If Young though TN was bad just wait.

  68. thetooloftools says: Aug 18, 2011 8:43 AM

    Wow… I wonder if Goodell will file tampering charges against himself ?

  69. joeinoh says: Aug 18, 2011 8:45 AM

    Initially I thought it was questionable to have the Goodell and others steer Vick away from the Bengals and Bills. But after thinking about it, they were attempting to mentor him or advise him of situations that may have had positive influences on the man not the player. Philly has stable leadership on and off the field-which can not be said of Vicks other two options. Vick did not need to be thrown into a starting situation. He needed time to readjust to the NFL, media and his haters. It would have been even more of a circus for him in Cincinnati and Buffalo. Expectations would have been extremely high for him as a starter and too much would have been expected too soon.

  70. richm2256 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:46 AM

    Besides being an ego-maniacal, self-absorbed jacka$$, Vick sucks as a passer.

    This will become more evident as each year goes by.

    But hey, let the good times roll in Philly for 2011, right? Can’t get enough of the Philly fans getting all geeked up over this “Dream Team” they’ve supposedly assembled…. Vick is no “dream” quarterback, and he sure as hell isn’t going to win a Super Bowl no matter how much talent they surround him with.

  71. sprest83 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:47 AM

    The Eagles suck! Who want wants to play for a losing franchise? They are the sore eye of the NFC East…no championship.

  72. weightshakes says: Aug 18, 2011 8:48 AM

    Roger Goodell needs to fine himself for tampering.

  73. sprest83 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:51 AM

    I like to refer to the Eagles as the Longest Yard. Bunch of jail bait gang bangers. Oh and they are in Philadelphia.

  74. b7p19 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:51 AM

    We all have a darker side that comes to the surface from time to time. Thats natural, even for those of us whos worst moments are as tame as smoking the occasional J.

    Glad you went where you did Mike. I think it’s been proven that Philly was the right city for you to start over again.

  75. sadbengalsfan14 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:52 AM

    Well, as a Bengals fan I would of loved to see Michael Vick here in a Bengals Jersey, but to read that Roger Goodell tampered with Vick kind of frustrates me. But Vick wouldn’t of been the answer here… unless he became owner of the team.

  76. seabreezes51 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:52 AM

    Release the hounds!!

    At Vick hater central…..

  77. fordman84 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:52 AM

    The old Vick will resurface. Not the dogfighting part, he will wait for retirement for that…but the egotistical Ron Mexico part will show back up. He’s said the right things so far, but now his ego is starting to take over.

    It’s going to be hilarious when the Eagles, who it appear are on the Commish’s list of favorites, implode with all those egos. Samuels as a backup? ASO, DJax, Vick…it’s going to catch up eventually. I’m thinking the first two game losing streak will be the catalyst.

  78. JAM says: Aug 18, 2011 8:58 AM

    I would get in the ring with a Pitt-Bull just to have the old or new Mike Vick quarterbacking my team…

  79. kevinfromphilly says: Aug 18, 2011 8:58 AM

    No big revalation there – half of us Philly fans (including me) didn’t want him at the time. Just glad it all worked out in the end.

  80. frankdatank23 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:58 AM

    the new vick’s a dumbass too, just shut up already….. any interview this guy does can only hurt him.

  81. opie333 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:02 AM

    Man it looks like God-dell has some explaining to do. The players should have made it part of there new 10 year deal that Goodell step down before they would sign any deals. Dogfighting everyone knows that is just the samething as the gun control deal in NY. He should of gotten probation, but the Liberals needed someone to make an example of.

  82. jcusa514 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:02 AM

    i don’t blame vick at all for cancelling his oprah appearance. these “pet-lovers” would have disrupted the filming of the show and probably would have done whatever it took to get on camera to get their 15 minutes.

    the guy served his time under what the US justice system deemed appropriate for his crimes. why can’t he go on oprah and share his story? everyone else goes on that show and then its suddenly socially acceptable to support that person…why not him??

  83. saturn1111 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:02 AM

    When the only teams “showing significant interest” in Vick were Pittsburgh, New England, and the Eagles, it was pretty clear that the league (and Tony Dungy) offered a guiding hand.

    In Oakland, Cleveland, Buffalo, or Cincy, the potential for Vick to go in the wrong direction was much greater.

    The league’s not stupid. They knew that Vick was either a potential cash cow or a potential black eye depending on where he went. The thought of him working for Al Davis probably scared the crap out of them.

    So of course they wanted to push him towards a more stable situation.

    And when Vick signed with Philly and had his press conference, it was pretty clear that such discussions had occurred with him in the room. He called the Eagles a “flagship franchise” that day.

  84. dylanmusicfane says: Aug 18, 2011 9:04 AM

    i got bit by a pittbull once. i freaking hate those dogs.

  85. dc1to1 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:05 AM

    “indignant over the fact that he went to jail for something that he’d probably still be doing if he hadn’t been caught.”
    That my friend was very unnecessary..

    To make it worse its a very positive statement on Vicks behalf that centers a realistic perspective around who he use to be and who he is today. Oh,… and by the way report the second part of his statement when ever Vick throws out the quote you used: ” the best thing that every happened to me was getting caught and server time in jail”

  86. melonnhead says: Aug 18, 2011 9:07 AM

    Pretty obvious why he was steered to Philly. It’s like a home away from home for him. The Philly “flash mob” culture glorifies criminals and sociopaths and they embrace him.

  87. hanifmiller says: Aug 18, 2011 9:07 AM

    Let it go. The “Old Mike Vick” argument is flimsy. Mike Vick served his time and he has grown as a person. Is he arrogant. Yes! So are 99.9% of alpha-male football players in the NFL. Does he say the right things all of the time? Of course not–no one does. He will never be perfect. Vick said verbatim:
    “They [the media] are writing as if everyone feels that way and has the same opinions they do,” Vick said. “But when I go out in public, it’s all positive, so that’s obviously not true.” That’s his perspective and in fact many now ARE fans of Vick and have forgiven him. How does this statement reflect that he is not “demonstrating contrition” or that he’s being “indignant” over going to jail? If your looking for 100% humility in a person the National Football League is not the place to start.

  88. seeschool says: Aug 18, 2011 9:09 AM

    I would get in the ring with a Pitt-Bull just to have the old or new Mike Vick quarterbacking my team…

    That’s funny, I would send that scum bag against a Pitt Bull with his hands tied behind his back just to make sure he couldn’t play for any team.

    We do love a redemption story though, and he is sorry for making the mistake of spending YEARS killing helpless animals and acting like a pyschopath.

  89. drmonkeyarmy says: Aug 18, 2011 9:09 AM

    Fordman,
    How is Asante Samuels a backup? If you are going to have a giggle and a laugh about “big egos” at least know what you are talking about.

  90. drmonkeyarmy says: Aug 18, 2011 9:09 AM

    Samuel not Samuels….need an edit function.

  91. melonnhead says: Aug 18, 2011 9:10 AM

    So of course they wanted to push him towards a more stable situation.

    ——————————————————————

    Sure, because a city like Philly, which has recently had to install curfews because so many people can’t or won’t control their kids, is so stable. It’s the same reason that Philly is perfect for Andy Reid. What the rest of the country finds deplorable is de reguer for Philly.

  92. phillyisinvading says: Aug 18, 2011 9:10 AM

    Superbowllll

  93. buffalohogan says: Aug 18, 2011 9:11 AM

    Cue the angry Bills Fans and Bengal Fan.

    How do I give Roger Goodell a virtual middle finger…

    It’s bad enough we have a cheap owner and live in an undeseirable city, but then when the guy wants to come to B-LO and the commissioner talks him out of it…

  94. melonnhead says: Aug 18, 2011 9:13 AM

    Man it looks like God-dell has some explaining to do. The players should have made it part of there new 10 year deal that Goodell step down before they would sign any deals. Dogfighting everyone knows that is just the samething as the gun control deal in NY. He should of gotten probation, but the Liberals needed someone to make an example of.

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    Probation for bankrolling an interstate gambling ring? Yeah, good luck for that. Michael Vick still has yet to do a minute in jail for the actual dogfighting or any of the cruelty he admitted to perpetrating on defenseless animals.

  95. goawayeverybody says: Aug 18, 2011 9:16 AM

    Vick’s comments leave no doubt that he still doesn’t understand right from wrong and that his anti-dog fighting stance now is just to boost his image.

  96. sj39 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:16 AM

    I will never forgive him and don’t have to. And NO I would not want him on my team.

  97. jeffro33 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:18 AM

    anyone else tired with the overuse of Vince Young’s idiotic “dream team” comment?

    Lord, VY is such an idiot….

  98. melonnhead says: Aug 18, 2011 9:19 AM

    You are spot on with flashes of the old Vick showing up from time to time. I notice it in his demeanor in interviews nowadays. It’s one of the downfalls of time passed. People (including perpetrators of crime) tend to find it easier to gloss over the past and it’s consequences as time passes. Here’s to hoping the new Vick keeps winning the war over the old Vick. Eventhough the old Vick is winning a few battles of late.

    —————————————————————–

    The “old Vick” is winning battles because no matter how much PR cash you spend on trying to prove otherwise, a sociopath is still going to be a sociopath at the end of the day.

  99. ourbaskets says: Aug 18, 2011 9:19 AM

    what are the implications of Goodell nosing in on free agents and where they should go? That seems really really REALLY shady and somewhat unethical.

    This just in – Goodell states that Peyton Manning must be traded to the Panthers…oh wait…never mind!

  100. hanifmiller says: Aug 18, 2011 9:21 AM

    Hey Melonhead. He plays for the Philadelphia Eagles organization NOT the City of Philadelphia. You do understand that right?

  101. melonnhead says: Aug 18, 2011 9:21 AM

    Cancelling Oprah was probably the smartest thing Vick ever did. Why is that used as an example of “the old Vick”? He avoided a situation that had the POTENTIAL to be a complete fiasco on national television.

    —————————————————————-

    Every game that Vick plays has that same potential.

  102. thekingdp says: Aug 18, 2011 9:21 AM

    Drmonkeyarmy,

    That same moron used Nnamdi Asomugha as an example of a “big ego” that’s going to be the downfall of the Eagles.. Talk about a clueless jackass..

  103. itsmammoth says: Aug 18, 2011 9:23 AM

    The Goodell part of the story tripped me out.

  104. rskills says: Aug 18, 2011 9:23 AM

    Even though it was all his fault, I think Vick is still allowed to feel bitter about getting locked up. I don’t think he needs to toe the line the rest of his life with “yes’suhs” and “sorry suhs”

  105. melonnhead says: Aug 18, 2011 9:31 AM

    Can we move on from the dog fighting??? It’s tired. Everyone knows he was a P.O.S. How about tell the story how he helped break up a dog fighting ring in North Philly a few months ago.

    ————————————————————–

    Because they infringed on his territory, obviously.

  106. kevsright says: Aug 18, 2011 9:32 AM

    I wish Bad Newz had gone to the Bengals or Bills!!
    Or back to Atlanta. Better yet, back to Leavenworth!! :mrgreen:
    The mere mention of his name debases my Eagles.
    One more reason to dislike Emperor Goodell.

  107. japdouds says: Aug 18, 2011 9:36 AM

    WORST COMMISSIONER IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS HISTORY!!!!

  108. tkebean says: Aug 18, 2011 9:37 AM

    Don’t worry Mike, despite being a good football player and being praised and coddled in Philly, most of the rest of the country think you are a worthless piece of trash and deserve to be rotting in jail.

  109. clintonportisheadd says: Aug 18, 2011 9:38 AM

    One can only be amused at the ignorance shown by the poster’s who feel Goodell is guilty of some sort crime by suggesting to or leaning on Vick to go with the Eagles.

    I guess you all forgot that Goodell did not have to let Vick play in the NFL again. Ever. As in eternity.

    The fact is Tony Dungy was the main advocate for Philly and Dungy was Goodell’s advisor on what progress Vick had made since getting out of jail. Yet no one seems to be getting mad at Preacher Tony.

  110. kingmj4891 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:39 AM

    If this is true Roger Goodell needs to go ASAP! I like Roger Goodell and think people only complain about him because he punishes players on the complaining persons team. Now I don’t care about Vick and his past he did his time let him move on. But if Roger Goodell is putting pressure on players signing or going to teams then what else has he been up to. Is Roger Goodell having the refs make calls to go one way or another to benefit the NFL at the expense of a particular club. I can think of half a dozen calls that got F-ed up last year that would have cause the games outcome to be different. Roger Goodell needs to be investigated now, if he is clean let him stay, if he is dirty he need to go.

  111. justacomment76 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:40 AM

    lifetime palmer games=97 compl.= 2024 yards = 22694 td = 154 rate= 86.9 w = 46

    lifetime vick games=98 compl. = 1169 yards = 14609 td = 93 rate =80.2 w = 49

    almost same career winning % and vick played for arguably better teams

    not sure it would have made much difference… probably more big “exciting” plays, but that’s about it. the team needs much more than one player.

  112. kglee54 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:41 AM

    I forgave him for the dog fighting when he scored me 50+ fantasy points in one week….

  113. smc2783 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:42 AM

    While many people are still upset about Vick in Philly, when it comes down to it all that matters is winning.

    I am proud pit bull owner and an Eagles fan. I don’t like what he did, but I don’t have to. His job is to win football games. He has and will continue to win football games. Nothing else matters.

  114. melonnhead says: Aug 18, 2011 9:43 AM

    No big revalation there – half of us Philly fans (including me) didn’t want him at the time. Just glad it all worked out in the end.

    —————————————————————–

    Man, you guys have such lowered expectations. Forget the fact that the Eagles haven’t won a playoff game since they signed Vick.

  115. breeshasasprole says: Aug 18, 2011 9:43 AM

    “But the old Mike Vick inches closer to the surface at times, indignant over the fact that he went to jail for something that he’d probably still be doing if he hadn’t been caught.”

    ——————

    I predicted him to fully come back next year. Its like seeing a fish that is flirting with your bait “come on you little bastard DO IT already!” For you people who actually think this guy has “changed” do you also think Casey Anthony has changed, she spent just a little more time in the pokey than Vick, im sure shes rehabbed. People do not make these kinds of drastic changes…CMON MAN!!!

  116. melonnhead says: Aug 18, 2011 9:46 AM

    Hey Melonhead. He plays for the Philadelphia Eagles organization NOT the City of Philadelphia. You do understand that right?

    —————————————————————-

    Yeah… the Philadelphia Eagles organization plays half of their games in the city of Philadelphia and have a few fans there. You do understand that, right?

  117. billsfan1 says: Aug 18, 2011 9:52 AM

    As much as we are desperate and deserving of a playoff caliber team, Idk if vick has the same success in Buffalo as he did in Philly…..what is really at the heart of all this isthe extortion and corruption behind the scenes….now every bad or questionable call will and should come under scrutiny….the precident has been set, and I dont think it looks good

  118. 464blfo says: Aug 18, 2011 9:53 AM

    Collusion

    Definition: secret conspiracy between people or companies for illegal, deceitful, or fraudulent purposes.

    The fix is in. We’ve seen behind the curtain. The commish has lost all his impartial creditability.

  119. itsmammoth says: Aug 18, 2011 10:03 AM

    What’s worse? Killing dogs? .. or killing two NFL franchises named after endangered species… you decide.

  120. jasncondit says: Aug 18, 2011 10:04 AM

    @donovanmcflabb — cancer can grow on people too.

    @vickspreadherpes — you’re wrong Eagles fans are not the worst. They are second to the Cleveland Browns Fans. Glad they lost Lebron too!

  121. agelardi says: Aug 18, 2011 10:04 AM

    “Vick ultimately was persuaded — by Commissioner Roger Goodell”

    That’s some BULLS**T right there.

  122. phillycheez says: Aug 18, 2011 10:10 AM

    sprest83 says:
    Aug 18, 2011 8:47 AM
    The Eagles suck! Who want wants to play for a losing franchise? They are the sore eye of the NFC East…no championship.

    —————————–

    Bitter and uneducated is no way to go through life.

  123. pencepost says: Aug 18, 2011 10:13 AM

    Would like to know more about Goodell’s involvement in getting Vick to play for a particular team, and what his reasons would have been.

    Perhaps his advice was based on Vick being a backup in Philly… if the other two places were offering him starting positions, I could see how Goodell would think it would be good for both Vick and the league if he started out in a more low-profile backup role to see how fans responded to him and to see how Vick behaved. If you remember, didn’t the Eagles even keep Vick in the locker room the first year when they played Atlanta? We’ve already forgotten how much protesting and anger there was toward Vick just two years ago. Can you imagine if he were a starter somewhere right away?

    Someone put Yahoo Sports on this story of Goodell’s involvement… if there was any wrongdoing, they’ll nail him!

  124. upperdecker19 says: Aug 18, 2011 10:27 AM

    Nnamdi wanted to come to Dallas. Goodell made him go to Philly.

    Regards,
    Jerruh

  125. ladymacesq says: Aug 18, 2011 10:30 AM

    I wish I could see Suh rip Vick’s head off.

    He’s a disgusting excuse for a human being and will never support a team that has this dog killer on its roster.

    In fact, I’d probably think more kindly of a team that does a Lawrence Taylor to Joe Theismann on his pitiful azz.

  126. m2karateman says: Aug 18, 2011 10:31 AM

    Someone needs to tell Mike that people are nice to him in public because they are afraid he’ll choke them, drown them or electricute them if they aren’t nice to him.

  127. drshakedown74 says: Aug 18, 2011 10:36 AM

    Im an Eagles phan………..and Goodell should be ashamed of himself for thinking he has the right to do crap like this. I hate Goodell.

  128. philtration says: Aug 18, 2011 10:37 AM

    I don’t want to see Vick fail… I want to see him suffer.

  129. 1acrowskids says: Aug 18, 2011 10:40 AM

    So who punishes Roger when he is a bad boy? He should have to wrestle Suh or Harrison for charity or live with Ocho for the entire season.

  130. Julie Brannagh says: Aug 18, 2011 10:44 AM

    It’s a matter of time before Vick reoffends. He’ll take Goodell down with him.

  131. andrewfbrowne says: Aug 18, 2011 10:45 AM

    I wonder if the league told Tyson Clabo to re-sign with Atlanta and turn down Buffalo, who reportedly offered him more money, because Atlanta is a bigger media market and it is better for ratings if they are good.

    Not to play tinfoil on the walls guy, but how can you not ask the question.

    This is such a profoundly slippery slope and it really forcing folks to question the integrity of the league.

  132. greenbird1 says: Aug 18, 2011 10:49 AM

    Usual false headline creation by PFT.

  133. geemoney713 says: Aug 18, 2011 10:50 AM

    Goodell needs to GO!

    This is so f’ed up and beyond what his control should be. If I’m an NFL owner, I’m using this as the last straw and using it to get him kicked out.

  134. bigtony300 says: Aug 18, 2011 10:55 AM

    Do you think any of the dogs he killed really wanted to “play” for Bad Newz Kennels?

  135. theenjguy says: Aug 18, 2011 10:58 AM

    wow i didnt know that was legal for theleague to persuade players there to play. Is that legal?

    But on another none some of you posters are just ridiculous really. like the man made a mistake, for some of you to talk about how “bad” the media is youre no different youre all one in the same. you crucify the guy for making a horrible mistake and trying to make up for it. God forbid any of you SAINTS ever screw anything up or make a mistake. Stupid a**es.
    Go Vick Keep striving (not even an eagles fan)

  136. gdeli says: Aug 18, 2011 10:59 AM

    what a nice thing for philly fans to hear. Next they will say mcnabb didn’t wanna come to minny. ha. He should say that after he retires or not at all. 129 responses, ha, to the dog killer.

  137. innerlign says: Aug 18, 2011 11:01 AM

    The Dog Killer opens his stupid mouth again. I swear this dud can’t get much dumber. Again, Vick you are an idiot. Just too stupid to know better.

  138. phanatic427 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:07 AM

    Everyone can think of Vick how they like. Everyone can decide if he’s rehabilitated on their own. I personally think most athletes ( along with most actors) shouldn’t be role models anyway. Why was Plaxico able to chooses his team (as far as we know)?Regardless, it’s a bit fishy.

  139. granadafan says: Aug 18, 2011 11:12 AM

    Vick, a convicted felon and coming out of jail, should have been on his knees and kissing the feet of everyone in the NFL for giving him another chance. He still doesn’t get it how lucky and fortunate he was. Is he so self-entitled that he EXPECTED to get back in no matter the seriousness of his crimes?

    That said, the commissioner of the NFL ought to have no say in where players go. That’s messing with the market and creating an unfair balance. The NFL shouldn’t become like the cheaters in the NBA where the Cavs “miraculously” got the #1 pick for Lebron or when the Knicks got Patrick Ewing.

  140. mred163 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:12 AM

    I am absolutely amazed that so many of you don’t think that Vick paid a dear price for his poor judgement. Not all felons continue to commit crimes again. Where is your sense of justice? How long must he be subjected to comments and critisims concerning his past?
    I am extremely disappointed in all of the negativity in these posts.

  141. pigskinswag says: Aug 18, 2011 11:12 AM

    I wonder how many of these people who are so disgusted with Michael Vick returning to football after what he did were also disgusted when former Rams DE Leonard Little returned to football (and didn’t even go to jail) after that drunk driving douche killed a woman.

  142. 7to10for6allday says: Aug 18, 2011 11:19 AM

    Glad he is on my team. Thank you! Go eagles!

  143. t16rich says: Aug 18, 2011 11:22 AM

    Goodell obviously knew which teamsfront office could handle the media scrutiny thatcame along with mike. So there might be some upset fans for Goodell helping steer Vick to Philly. At the end of the day it was the best choice for Mike and the league.

  144. jagerbmb says: Aug 18, 2011 11:37 AM

    My oh my… Hope the Bengals and Bills, heck the entire NFL hammers Goodell over this. The commish has way over-stepped his bounds. Integrity of the league my @$$. I never want to hear those words from Goodell again. I hope the owners and players alike lay into his @$$ over this one.

  145. davidjcu says: Aug 18, 2011 11:37 AM

    People need to get over themselves. He did his time, got caught, now shut up. I bet Vick has done more in his community service or PSAs for animal abuse than any of you ever have for anything.

  146. tjstyles says: Aug 18, 2011 11:45 AM

    First, he was probably steered away from other teams BECAUSE of the possibility of starting. People were not happy that Vick was allowed to return to the NFL, so keeping him low key for a while to rehabilitate his image was important.

    Second, it would not take an actual misstep from Vick to have everything come crashing down; all it takes is one person to accuse him of a misstep. In the American Public, you are guilty until proven innocent, and then you are still guilty. And that goes double for people who already have a record.

  147. foreverengland says: Aug 18, 2011 11:50 AM

    Please, cut the jock sniffer crap – the man’s name is MICHAEL!!

  148. quizguy66 says: Aug 18, 2011 11:51 AM

    So Goodell can screw my team out of a great player but it can’t force them to hire a GM and scouting department.

    That’s great. Just great.

    -QG

  149. zeussuperman says: Aug 18, 2011 11:57 AM

    I have a hard time believing that this is a tampering issue on the part of the Commish, since Vick’s playing in the NFL was conditional on Goodell’s say-so.

    Also, let’s note that there was NO WAY the NFL was going to let a convicted dog murderer leave prison and immediately become the face of a franchise, let alone a struggling franchise like the Bills.

    I think the idea was to lock him down behind McNabb and Kolb in a city with a sports-crazy fanbase; this has PR move written all over it. I don’t honestly think the league expected Vick to still be able to ball the way he did before he went upstate.

  150. jagerbmb says: Aug 18, 2011 11:57 AM

    Goodell needs to be kicked off that soapbox he’s been preaching from. Integrity of the NFL, get real. Goodell has made some very questionable decisions, none moreso than this FUBAR. Time for Goodell to be shown the door.

  151. tjstyles says: Aug 18, 2011 11:59 AM

    davidjcu, you are probably right on the amount of community service and PSAs that we on the board have done in relation to Vick, but I doubt many people on these boards have done the type of crime that Vick committed.

    I do agree with the spirit of your post, however. The whole point of prison is rehabilitation. If we assume that nobody changes and that prison is a waste of time, then why do we even bother sending people to prison? What is the point of “giving them a second chance” if they never even get the second chance? Might as well take them from the court room to the gas chamber.

    Bottom line is who cares if he “really changed” or not. If he is not breaking the law, then everything is fine. It is not a crime to think about breaking the law.

  152. zeussuperman says: Aug 18, 2011 12:01 PM

    vickspreadherpes says: Aug 18, 2011 8:33 AM

    Eagle fans to Mike:

    “We are sooo glad you picked us Mike!! We don’t care what you did to animals & women, we do worse every Sunday to opposing fans in our own stadium!”

    The most pathetic fans in the NFL.

    —————————————

    What team do you cheer for? I’m sure it’s a roster full of class acts.

    You should go talk this mess on Broad st, internet tough guy.

  153. zeussuperman says: Aug 18, 2011 12:06 PM

    richm2256 says: Aug 18, 2011 8:46 AM

    Besides being an ego-maniacal, self-absorbed jacka$$, Vick sucks as a passer.

    This will become more evident as each year goes by.

    But hey, let the good times roll in Philly for 2011, right? Can’t get enough of the Philly fans getting all geeked up over this “Dream Team” they’ve supposedly assembled…. Vick is no “dream” quarterback, and he sure as hell isn’t going to win a Super Bowl no matter how much talent they surround him with.

    —————————–

    You’re right, how DARE Eagles fans actually get…
    excited? about their football team? In August!?

    The nerve!

  154. zeussuperman says: Aug 18, 2011 12:13 PM

    melonnhead,

    You are a sad, sad man.

    Maybe you should put down your Magic: The Gathering Cards and visit Philadelphia sometime.

    I know, I know – but you’ve spent hours googling so many negative stories in your failed attempts to become king of the sports internet message boards!

    Visit Philly, and you might like it more than Dallas. Nnamdi Asomugha certainly did. So did Cliff Lee.

  155. cowboy88 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:14 PM

    If this is true, this is a huge scandal. if I were the Bengals and Bills I would file suit against Goodell. Why isn’t this Tampering? Goodell overstepped his authority by handpicking and placing Vick on this team. Kolb would have a beef too.

  156. greymares says: Aug 18, 2011 12:19 PM

    wawa33 please don’t call yourself a diehard eagle fan if you don’t want Vick. a diehard fan of any team roots for the laundry. as long as a player can help your team win you root for him if he leaves or is traded he no longer plays for your team and is not worthy of being rooted for by a DIEHARD fan. for example Mike Vick rules Brian Dawkins sucks.

  157. spinningroom says: Aug 18, 2011 12:30 PM

    So if I am reading most of these comments right they are saying the NFL is fixed….

    I may be slow today but how is it fixed if you are telling someone to go to a team as there thired string QB fixing the game? (if he was told that)

    Second I was not in the room when the meeting happened but could it be the Commish and the NFL said you know I think this might be abetter fit for you but you can do what you want.

    And could it have been Dungy that said hey Mike out of these three I would pick the Eagles you will learn how to be a better QB there and once you prove your worth you will take over.

    Just a THOUGHT…. Lord knows I have been worng once before and this might be the Second time.

  158. marvelsmith420 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:43 PM

    GreyMares is your typical brain dead football fan. Ten years from now when Vick’s career is done and the Eagles still don’t have any Superbowl rings I wonder if people like him will still be proud that they cheered for an arrogant, morally bankrupt POS like MV.

    Is it any wonder NFL players get away with murder (literally)?

  159. wutliss07 says: Aug 18, 2011 12:48 PM

    OH OH OH FITZMAGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  160. tkebean says: Aug 18, 2011 1:09 PM

    What do Leonard Little, Donte Stallworth and Mike Vick (and maybe Ray Lewis) have in common?

    All murderers.

  161. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 18, 2011 1:37 PM

    Vick is just a scumbag with a very thin layer of respectable human being applied on the outside by his handlers.

    When all is said and done, his true nature will come out again.

    (I almost wrote “true colors”, but Warren Moon would make them delete the post.)

  162. polishkingski says: Aug 18, 2011 5:52 PM

    when he was an option for the bills i was soooooooooooooooooooo against it, but knowing what i know now? i mean i love my dogs to death but i love the bills too. vick with chan gailey would have been fun to watch.

  163. rickycubane says: Aug 19, 2011 2:31 AM

    i love when people compare VICK to CASEY ANTHONY…

    seriously?

    i have a pit bull.. i cant imagine what those pups went through.. but they are animals.. not people.. some people eat dogs in this world.. Danny Heatley killed his best friend in a drunk driving accident.. he got probation.. Dante Stallworth KIlled a dude DUI.. he is playing quicker than Vick got back.. he didnt get 2 years in prison..

    some child molesters get off easier than VICK..

    Im white.. if VICK was white.. less ppl would have cared about this..

    the dude got the most time in prison EVER for dog fighting..

    he paid his debt..

    you dont have to like him or root for him but stop acting like he is a serial killer or a kid toucher

    if you directed all that focus on something positive you could do a lot

  164. breeshasasprole says: Aug 19, 2011 9:52 AM

    rickycubane

    People compare the two because they both got away with murder. Murder is murder dude. If the law says its illegal to murder pets then you are supposed to suffer the consequences…. he did not. He went to jail for Gambling charges. They compare the two because they both have no remorse about what they did, sure Vick has come out and admitted to it and said “its wrong” but lets be honest had this guy not been caught he’d still be doing the same thing. That statement “Im white.. if VICK was white.. less ppl would have cared about this”, makes me sick to my stomach. Somehow every Vick supporter tries to make this a RACE issue when it isnt…. its about $$$$$$$$$. Weither he was black, white, or purple the only color that matters to the NFL is green! If Mike Vick had the atheletic ability of Alex Smith and had done all of those things he would no longer be playing in the NFL. If Alex Smith had Vicks ability and did all of those things he’d be in the same position Vick is in right now. Its about what you can do for the league so they can make dollars! Racism is a krutch for mentally crippled people who do not have the brain capacity to look deeper into issues so they take a shortcut to thinking and say “thats racist!” Im white and I would much rather a well rounded black person in my home rather than a rude, loud, and obnoxious white person and vise versa. Every time you make a case for racism when it’s only “questionable” at best you further the life span of racism itself… do your part to end racism. Cheers

  165. breeshasasprole says: Aug 19, 2011 12:57 PM

    @rickycubane

    also….. all those things you listed just make it a better case for people to argue that Vick got off easy. Stallworth killed a guy DUI and was suspended by the NFL for an entire year after the court only gave him probation, Vick was suspended for 6 games and later it was reduced to 4 after admitting his involvement in the actual dogfighting itself (which he did not serve time for) as well as the gambling charges he served in prison for. “He paid his debt”… when Vick starts spending time in prison for the actual torture and murdering of dogs then I will lay off him and ill say “hes paying his debt” Vick has not spent one single second in Prison for what he did to those dogs thus his debt is not paid. Think of it this way… you owe a company $20,000 for various products (lets say 4 different products all costing 5k a piece) and you pay that company only 5k and say “my debt is paid”…. no you still owe 15k to actually PAY your total debt. Vick paid a fraction of his debt but he still has a remaining balance that he will never pay back. You can sit there and feed me the “they’re animals, not people” line all you want, but you say you have a pittbull right?? Can you honestly tell me that if some one took your dog and slammed it against the ground and tortured it for hours on end until it just couldnt take the pain anymore (screeching loudly, bleeding, bones broken, and crying in unthinkable pain)… can you honestly tell me that you wouldn’t want that guy to suffer for what he did, can you look me in the eye and truthfully tell me that you think two years would be enough for that guy to make up for what he did? (remember this was for his meer entertainment) Just bc hes a good football player you people give him a pass for something that should NEVER happen, something so cruel and heartbreaking that for most human beings is too absurd to think of. But hey… they’re just dogs right?

  166. themonkeyman says: Aug 19, 2011 7:28 PM

    @rickycubane

    1st, Casey Anthony’s lawyers provided doubt. A JURY acquitted her; she went through due process & was found not-guilty. Vick had that same option, he chose to take the sweetheart deal that a jock sniffing, family friend offered him because he KNEW a jury would have sent him to jail for a very, very long time. The evidence was overwhelming on Vick; all you would have to do is actually educate yourself on this to sound a lot less ignorant. If you feel justice was dodged with Casey Anthony, then justice was bound, gagged & beaten to death in the Vick case.

    You do KNOW Vick never went to jail for dog fighting?

    He went to jail for running an interstate gambling ring.

    Do you know he had a prosecutor that defended his father as a defense atty a few years earlier & gave him a sweetheart deal?

    That Vick never did ONE day in jail for his sadistic behavior for fun- he never spent any time in jail for the abhorrent torture.

    Do you have any idea of the violence & torture he administered with his bare hands for entertainment? He did all this because he enjoyed torturing. He & his boys found it to be amusing to take already defenseless, bleeding creatures & continue to make them scream & cry as they all laughed. Do you know he did this MULTIPLE times a week for SIX years?

    Have you really read about the things he did? Or are you like most Vick defenders, don’t really want to know the horrid things he did & want to make it about dog fighting or in your OPINION unfair treatment?

    As for him being black, that is such a ridiculous argument. White, green, blue, yellow or red, that makes no difference & to ASSUME it’s about that is woefully misinformed & irresponsible babble.

    If Vick were some schlep on a corner in Virginia & wasn’t an NFL player, guys like you wouldn’t care.

    People that understand animal cruelty for amusement still would though. THAT’S the difference.

    If you directed YOUR focus on becoming educated about this type of thing & learned what kind of people torture animals for amusement, knowingly spread disease to unsuspecting humans, then lie about it over & over again about it were made of, you’d be ashamed of your uneducated views.

  167. pigeonpea says: Aug 20, 2011 4:01 AM

    Quit with the “new Vick”/”old Vick” crap. Mike Vick is the same Mike Vick, and sadistic sociopaths never change. It’s only a matter of time before he is caught again… Trash is trash after all.

  168. eaglesw00t says: Aug 24, 2011 11:24 AM

    1. The title of this article is misleading at best. How you take “I didn’t want to come to Philadelphia, Being the third-team quarterback is nothing to smile about. Cincinnati and Buffalo were better options.” and turned it into Vick didnt want to play for the Eagles is taking literary license to its fullest extent.

    2. Mike went to prison. I am a dog lover. But he did his time. If you dont like it, Im sorry. But he did live up to the justice that was handed to him, and never complained about it once. He owned up to his problems and manned up. He has earned the right to re-enter society as a FORMER criminal.

    3. I would like to hear more about the “persuasion of Goodell and other NFL executives” and see where that falls in under NFL guidelines. But, as mentioned, Vick wouldnt have started in Cinci either. And Buffalo would have been a disaster for him. His career never would have gotten back off the ground. Let alone flourished.

    I am glad he is in Philly right now. I would rather have Kolb starting for us, but we wouldnt be as good if he was…so I guess its a draw for me. Im anxious to see if he gets a long term deal from us, or if him and Desean are shown the door at the end of this season.

  169. bigbwoy000 says: Aug 24, 2011 7:13 PM

    “Mike went to prison. I am a dog lover. But he did his time. If you dont like it, Im sorry. But he did live up to the justice that was handed to him, and never complained about it once. He owned up to his problems and manned up. He has earned the right to re-enter society as a FORMER criminal.”

    He has complained about it many times. You as an Eagle fan refuse to hear or see it.

    18 months in prison doesn’t cure someone that could torture hurt animals for amusement. You as an Eagle fan either refuse to admit the extent of the sickness involved in that kind of behavior or simply haven’t actually educated yourself on the things he did or don’t care since he plays for your team.

    He has never “manned up” unless you want to localize his acts to just dog fighting. The much bigger issue is the intentional cruelty he administered with his own hands repeatedly for a 6 year period. He never did a day in jail for that. When he does, thats when he’s “madden up” for his real crimes.

    No one asked you to apologize for Mike Vick’s inhuman acts & it’s almost sad as an Eagle fan you feel you have to do so. The things Mike Vick did border psychopathic. You cannot possibly truly be a dog lover & be educated on the ghoulish things he did for fun & still stick up for him.

  170. bigbwoy000 says: Aug 24, 2011 7:16 PM

    madden=manned

  171. MichaelEdits says: Oct 29, 2012 10:59 PM

    Who will he not want to play for next year?

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