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Chargers’ counsel says move to L.A. in 2012 would require a “miracle”

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With Los Angeles moving closer to building an NFL stadium, one of the NFL teams most commonly tied to L.A. is the closest — the San Diego Chargers.  Indeed, there’s some talk that the Chargers could move from Qualcomm Stadium to a temporary location (like the Rose Bowl) as soon as next year.

Team counsel Marc Fabiani says that’s highly unlikely.

“I think the downtown L.A. project is years away,” Fabiani said Thursday, per ESPNLosAngeles.com.  “I think it would be a miracle like the loaves and the fishes if they could Error: Break shortcode syntax invalid.”

The Chargers have a three-month window every year, from February 1 through May 1, to break their lease with the payment of a fee that reduces every year.  In 2012, the numbers drops to $24 million.

And so the Chargers subtly are straddling the fence, never stating unequivocally that the team won’t move to L.A. but holding L.A. at bay while attempting to get a new stadium built in San Diego.

“The downtown L.A. project still needs a final agreement with the city,” Fabiani said. “What they have now is a non-binding agreement and the devil is in the details with these things, so they first need a binding contract.  Second, they need to finish their environmental impact report and get it certified by the city.  Third, they need to be able to survive the lawsuits, and they’re not going to get an exemption like Ed Roski got.  Fourth, they need an agreement with the NFL on a relocation fee because that is going to be a huge number.  And fifth, they need to have a deal with a team.  If you don’t have every one of those things you’re not going to start digging in the ground.”

For now, Fabiani is saying only that the Chargers wouldn’t leave next year unless AEG can break ground on a stadium, and Fabiani used his New Testament metaphor to illustrate his belief that it won’t happen next year.  As to the next year, getting the Chargers to Los Angeles could be a lot easier than getting a camel through the eye of a needle.

Fabiani also hinted that the Chargers have been wooed by the group that has a stadium project ready to go in the City of Industry.  “Ed Roski is a billionaire and one of the most respected people in Los Angeles and one of the most respected developers in the country,” Fabiani said. “He’s had a shovel-ready project for over two years.  He’s got support from the city and money from the city.  He has his EIR done and he’s got the exemption from the lawsuits.  He has everything and he hasn’t turned over a single shovel full of dirt because he doesn’t have a team, and it’s not from a lack of trying.”

In the end, it’s all about leverage.  The question of whether the Chargers “want” to play in San Diego or Los Angeles doesn’t matter.  The Chargers “want” the best deal, and the best way to get it is to flirt with as many Mary Magdalenes as possible.

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36 Responses to “Chargers’ counsel says move to L.A. in 2012 would require a “miracle””
  1. mavajo says: Aug 19, 2011 5:05 PM

    “I think it would be a miracle like the loaves and the fishes if they could Error: Break shortcode syntax invalid.”

    Uhh, what?

  2. contra74 says: Aug 19, 2011 5:09 PM

    “I think the downtown L.A. project is years away,” Fabiani said Thursday, per ESPNLosAngeles.com. “I think it would be a miracle like the loaves and the fishes if they could Error: Break shortcode syntax invalid.”
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    HA! Even the program that runs this site knows that statement is BS! “ERROR: THIS STATEMENT IS BS!”

  3. zoxitic says: Aug 19, 2011 5:10 PM

    Jeez, how much are they paying you to keep pushing these la stadium stories ad naseum?

  4. jamesrfree says: Aug 19, 2011 5:11 PM

    thanks for the update but what a poorly written article… More City of Industry…less downtown!

  5. skoobyfl says: Aug 19, 2011 5:12 PM

    They made the wine flow too much before making these statements.

  6. sourdough says: Aug 19, 2011 5:15 PM

    Suck it LA.

  7. mrvikingsfan11 says: Aug 19, 2011 5:18 PM

    Green bay packers are moving to LA. Great there goes the rivalry!!!!!!!!

  8. quizguy66 says: Aug 19, 2011 5:19 PM

    ““I think it would be a miracle like the loaves and the fishes if they could Error: Break shortcode syntax invalid.””

    That sounds more like how they talk in Silicon Valley. Perhaps the Raiders or 49ers really are the more likely teams to move to L.A. ;)

    -QG

  9. NoHomeTeam says: Aug 19, 2011 5:20 PM

    zoxitic says:”Jeez, how much are they paying you to keep pushing these la stadium stories ad naseum?”

    Pay no attention to the substandard Latin-slinger, Mike. Keep ‘em coming!

  10. gregm5s7 says: Aug 19, 2011 5:23 PM

    If they do it in City of Industry, It will make it hard to set downtown ablaze after playoff wins.

  11. hobartbaker says: Aug 19, 2011 5:25 PM

    Careful what you say Fab, it is the city of The Angels.

  12. slawsc says: Aug 19, 2011 5:26 PM

    Your right zoxitic.
    Obviously someone at NBC or someone with corporate/financial ties to NBC will benefit from this LA stadium deal, or else we wouldn’t be hearing about it 24/7 365 days a week. I think right now getting this LA stadium deal is more dire than solving global waming, ending the wars and getting our economy rolling again!

  13. hobartbaker says: Aug 19, 2011 5:29 PM

    A miracle like the loaves and the fishes. But maybe not the order of the U.S. Olympic Ice Hockey gold in 1980.

  14. lacharger2112 says: Aug 19, 2011 5:30 PM

    So they will come to LA a little later. See you here in a few years then. We have waited this long, another year or two isn’t going to matter much.
    Suck that Sourdousch!

  15. sandiegobandwagons says: Aug 19, 2011 5:38 PM

    Chargers’ counsel also says winning a superbowl in our lifetime would require a “miracle”.

  16. bigbeefyd says: Aug 19, 2011 5:50 PM

    Fabiani actually used a New Testament metaphor combined with some obscure UNIX code, apparently…

  17. dogsweat1 says: Aug 19, 2011 5:55 PM

    Chargers are not leaving San Diego…..

    Raiders back to Los Angeles……plain and simple.

  18. icelovinbrotha215 says: Aug 19, 2011 5:59 PM

    Do the people L.A. really care for a football?

  19. illyistic1 says: Aug 19, 2011 6:14 PM

    yes we do care but we dont want the chargers! we want a team we can rename or the rams! thr will be 2 teams unfortanately it will be the chargers 1st

  20. jackfnburton says: Aug 19, 2011 6:16 PM

    Good news for Chargers fans, if you are one. Which I am not so…bollocks to this.

  21. mikebyrne1502 says: Aug 19, 2011 6:18 PM

    The Chargers aren’t moving to L.A people want to speculate because they don’t want to end up with a crappy team…

    If the Chargers go to L.A then people will actually attend games right away, plus the ammount of true Charger fans that will drive up from SD to still watch games. Could you imagine putting a team like the Jags there? I bet that most people in L.A. couldn’t name but two players on that team.

    However it’s all speculation and until you hear about AEG or Roski buying a team then NO TEAM is going to LA.

  22. cornellsteelers says: Aug 19, 2011 6:22 PM

    It would take a miracle for me to care.

  23. joetoronto says: Aug 19, 2011 6:37 PM

    Nobody cares, the Chargers are irrelevant.

  24. NoHomeTeam says: Aug 19, 2011 7:29 PM

    dogsweat1 says: “Chargers are not leaving San Diego…..Raiders back to Los Angeles……plain and simple.”

    It’s neither plain nor simple, doggie; all your wishing won’t make it so. There are a number of issues which complicate the outcome of which team relocates here, but one is especially relevant for the six or seven Raider fans who want to see the team move again: Ownership of the team.

    Another poster raised the issue with regard to the Vikings. We’ve read (here, among other sources) that Phil Anschuts is, in all likelihood, going to want a piece of the team in exchange for providing the venue. This wouldn’t be a much of a problem for somebody like Wayne Weaver or Zyggi Wilf, who own something like 80% of their respective teams.

    On the other hand, if memory serves, a few years ago Al Davis sold an undisclosed share of the team to an investment group to raise operating capital. I also seem to recall reading that Al wasn’t one of those “80+%” owners in the first place — he was the majority owner and “controlling partner” or somesuch language, but his ownership stake may have been closer to 60%. If he sold, say, 9% of the team for working cash, that would leave him sitting at 51%, which I think may be the League’s mandated minimum to be classified as the “owner.”

    There is a fair chance that Al Davis doesn’t currently own enough of the team to offer Anshuts his desired stake and retain control. If that’s the case, then the Raiders are certainly staying put.

  25. NoHomeTeam says: Aug 19, 2011 7:34 PM

    illyistic1 says: “yes we do care but we dont want the chargers! we want a team we can rename or the rams! thr will be 2 teams unfortanately it will be the chargers 1st”

    Well said. Well, actually not “well said,” but I do agree with your sentiments. At least with regard to the rebranding of the team that comes here. Also, I think you may be getting a little bit ahead of yourself with the two team prediction; let’s get one moved in first.

  26. gcbean says: Aug 19, 2011 8:33 PM

    Pack your bags St Louis!

  27. hemiguy08 says: Aug 19, 2011 9:20 PM

    I just don’t see the Bolts moving to L.A. This is still a Raider town, and if they move the Chargers here I would not want to be anywhere near this place on a Sunday. The stadium will be full of Raider trolls causing trouble inside and outside the Stadium. Are all Raider fans hoodlums? Nope, but the ones up to no good wearing Silver and Black will be there stirring things up. The NFL would be absolutely foolish to move the the Chargers here.
    I’m thinking it’ll be the Raiders downtown and either the Rams or Jags in Industry.

  28. hemiguy08 says: Aug 19, 2011 9:23 PM

    I do agree with a couple of the posters on here though about a new team. I feel if a team wants to move they need to leave all their colors, name, and records in their previous city, a la Browns/Ravens.

  29. dogsweat1 says: Aug 19, 2011 9:39 PM

    It’s neither plain nor simple, doggie; all your wishing won’t make it so. There are a number of issues which complicate the outcome of which team relocates here, but one is especially relevant for the six or seven Raider fans who want to see the team move again: Ownership of the team.

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    Yawn.

    Should I waste my time?

    6 or 7 Raider fans?

    I guess the 40,000 plus Raider fans that invade the Q(Jack Murphy) in San Diego on Sunday-must be from the city of San Diego?

    None of these Raider fans live in Los Angeles-right?

  30. gfan8611 says: Aug 19, 2011 9:49 PM

    The Browns have a long storied football history that is why Cleveland got to keep the name and records. Jacksonville was a mistake from the beginning and nobody will care they are gone three years after they leave.

  31. recon163 says: Aug 19, 2011 10:51 PM

    @ slawsc:

    “I think right now getting this LA stadium deal is more dire than solving global waming, ending the wars and getting our economy rolling again!”

    That is only true if all your read or watch is football related news, which obviously you do.

  32. recon163 says: Aug 19, 2011 10:56 PM

    @ dogsweat1:

    “I guess the 40,000 plus Raider fans that invade the Q(Jack Murphy) in San Diego on Sunday-must be from the city of San Diego?”

    Wow that would be more than they draw in their home stadium. And did you count the 40k to verify that number?

    “None of these Raider fans live in Los Angeles-right?”

    That is not the question. You are implying they all live in LA. Probably not.

  33. dogsweat1 says: Aug 19, 2011 11:52 PM

    That is not the question. You are implying they all live in LA. Probably not.

    *****************************************

    Your right.

    The Raider fans that show up in San Diego are probably from Ensenada,Mexico.

  34. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 20, 2011 12:31 AM

    “Error: Break shortcode syntax invalid.”

    _____________________________

    who wrote this, the robot from “Lost in space”?

  35. ltshouldstillbeinsd says: Aug 20, 2011 1:13 AM

    hemiguy08 has made the most relevant point, L.A.(sh!thole) is still full of raider fans, they dont like us, and we dont like them… you thought those dick dodger fans jumping the giants fan was bad??? put a charger stadium in that dump of a city, it will bring out every bitter, wanna be tough guy raider fan there is, there will be more fighting than football. terrible idea. san diegans dont want our team to leave, and L. A. doesnt need us, they have enough teams, give us the clippers back and take the rams back.

  36. NoHomeTeam says: Aug 21, 2011 11:48 AM

    dogsweat1 says: “Yawn. . . . Should I waste my time? . . . 6 or 7 Raider fans? . . . I guess the 40,000 plus Raider fans that invade the Q(Jack Murphy) in San Diego on Sunday-must be from the city of San Diego? . . . None of these Raider fans live in Los Angeles-right?”

    I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that you would completely ignore the salient part of my response, which was that there are more barriers to the Raiders playing in a downtown L.A. stadium than you had considered, and focus instead on what was obviously hyperbole.

    On a related note, a kudo to Recon163, who observed that the Raiders have difficulty drawing 40k in their own home stadium. Nicely done!

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