Comments on: John Beck makes it easy on the Shanahans

By: dhudge

dhudge — Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:42:39 +0000

Typical Redskins preseason!

…when is “hog nation” going to finally learn that a winning preseason means NOTHING in regard to the regular season?

By: mnesmith77

mnesmith77 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 15:19:26 +0000

The pre season is simply to evaluate talent!!! As a REAL Redskins fan thats exactly what this game was no matter what the final score was. Beck did look pretty good out there. By no means am I going to call him a franchise quarterback at this point. Its easy to make the prediction that he wont be a franchise quarterback or wont win a Superbowl. And if you are such and idiot to make that prediction off 3 rookie starts on a 1-15 Dolphins team and 1 pre season game that just makes you look like a fool. Just because you watch NFL Network or ESPN and you hear someone give an “OPINION” that he cant be a starting quarterback in this league shouldnt be the reason you geniuses make such a prediction. Let him actually get on the field and play then decide on that. Journalist get paid good money to swallow their pride and admit when they are wrong. You idiots just look stupid!!!

By: madd5555likesthedudes

madd5555likesthedudes — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 15:01:41 +0000

and whoever wrote that the colts defense did not play with ‘confidence’ because Peyton wasnt playing is a complete panty sniffing douche.

By: madd5555likesthedudes

madd5555likesthedudes — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:59:39 +0000

offense keeps moving the ball on first team defenses. defense keeps not giving up anything against first team offenses…

not saying the skins are going to go 16=0, but this sure looks like an improvement.

and certainly dont look like a 100-1 superbowl team.

By: jahbird

jahbird — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:54:02 +0000

My fellow Redskins fans fretting over Luck should realize that:

a) They are mental pansies

b) You don’t have to suck to land a top five QB. You just need to be flexible enough to trade spot with the team that does suck.

Stop with this BS about the skins and the Luck sweepstakes.

By: 1bigtex

1bigtex — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:27:14 +0000

Regarding the Skins/Colts clash, the Skins were favored on the road. Why? Could it be that Indy historically doesn’t care one iota about preseason and everyone knew that Peyton wasn’t playing? A handicapper that I pay attention to (but not money) broke down the game to “take Washington and bet the game under as well”. Thanks, Norm.

The reality is that John Beck is a 30 year old guy who has started 4 regular season games in his career and lost all 4. He has three times as many INTs as TDs. He might be better than Rex Grossman. It’s also better to get punched in the gut as opposed to kicked in the nuts, but neither one is a pleasany option.

By: fjcas

fjcas — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:51:49 +0000

That same mobility that Beck possesses can be his downfall in this system. Faster delivery is required to take advantage of the O-Line. They can’t hold opposing D’s forever.

By: theblowtorchreview

theblowtorchreview — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:48:20 +0000

I dont think people are necessarily Redskin haters, we are just tired of 11 years of hype resulting in 11 years of disappointments. The Redskins have been “winning” training camp and pre season for years. What has it gotten us? I know it’s not the Skinz fault, but the media around DC is insane. They win a couple pre season games and the Washington Post will be yelling “NFC East Title” before the end of this week!

By: fjcas

fjcas — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:47:39 +0000

Although performance of Beck was OK, his play was the cause of several sacks since he takes to long to decide what to do with the ball. You can’t expect the lineman to hold some of the greatest D forever. This uncertainty is where Grossman gives the Redskins a better chance this year and why it takes a couple of years for a QB to develope in a SHANNY Offense. He showed less awareness in the Redzone. This offense requires quick thoughts to keep the pressure off the O-Line.

By: CKL

CKL — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:38:49 +0000

I saw an interview w/ Beck the other day. The kid comes across as humble and likeable and enthusiastic. I wish him well.

By: headhunter11

headhunter11 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:27:15 +0000

ESPN

Defensively, it wasn’t any better for the Colts.

Against the starters, Washington outgained Indy in yardage 277-41, had almost three times as many plays (41-14) and had two 50-plus yard runs.

Colts coach Jim Caldwell didn’t like it one bit.

By: bobbyhoying

bobbyhoying — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:58:15 +0000

Wake me up when we get to game six or so of the regular season. How can anything be evaluated at this point with the short training camp and no mini camps? The stretch run is what always counts with whom eventually wins it all.

By: cowboy88

cowboy88 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:37:20 +0000

Beck = Kevin Kolb. They will both be mediocre.

By: skinsfandcdan83

skinsfandcdan83 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:35:12 +0000

I always notice bitch ass Cowboy and Eagles fans got something to say… Lets settle it on the field…I support Rex and Beck!!! Let’s go Skins!!!!!???

By: dcbronco

dcbronco — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 05:20:22 +0000

Why does the fact that it’s pre-season have anything to do with accuracy, good decision making, mobility and good pocket awareness. People that say you can’t tell because it’s pre-season should just wait till after the Super Bowl to decide all of their opinions. Physical ability is obvious. If a person has that and the mental toughness for the game he will most likely succeed. The time of year has nothing to do with it. Everyone on that field is fighting for a job.

By: Soulman45

Soulman45 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 05:14:33 +0000

Who ever start they will be 3-13

By: dolfan28

dolfan28 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 04:59:51 +0000

I’m rooting for Beck, he never got a chance to develop in Miami.

By: prplpuzzetrz

prplpuzzetrz — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 03:45:24 +0000

Pre-season really has a nasty way of getting your hopes up.
Hightower is very mediocre, you guys have a very mortal team!
I will say this, Beck has promise! The media gets it right maybe 15% of the tine, except when they dont, it’s not reported. When they FO? They beat it like a dead horse, so really , they look alot smarter than they are!
Andrew Luck, could be a total NFL bust!
As of now, solid coaching and player performance can take you far, as a Viking fan, I’m concerned about our division this year based on our squad.
Skins fans should feel good, your division is wide open!

By: hailvictory10

hailvictory10 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 03:33:56 +0000

@paul82461

YOU didnt see the game….so why are you making any sort of comment

HTTR

By: hailvictory10

hailvictory10 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 03:31:35 +0000

i totally agree with some posters

Why is there hatred for the Redskins on this site?? We have been down and out for so many yeras

and fans have suffered through coaches like…..Norv, Spurrier, Old Gibbs, Zorn,

Now, Dan Snyder got rid of Vinny, hired a GM in Bruce Allen, hired a Super Bowl winning coach, and allI here is HATE

Its Shanahans 2nd season, give the guy a break! He got rid of all the Vinny trash, replaced it with draft picks and no-name free agents.

He is coaching the heck out of this team. We dont have any overpaid superstars….we have Santana Moss and Chris Cooley as our “stars”

The Redskins have won 3 Super Bowls (and been to 5 Super Bowls)

The Redskins WILL be back! If not this year, VERY VERY SOON

I will HAIL ’till I’m PALE

By: kevpft

kevpft — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 03:04:45 +0000

It’s hard to believe this could work, and it’s easy to look at what the Redskins have been doing since Shanahan came to town and think that it looks like a complete disaster. And to look at the current lineup and think, who is going to make the big plays? Who is going to be a game-changer? They don’t have anything to compete with the rest of this division.

But if that’s all true, it will be depressingly predictable and boring. For Beck’s sake, the division’s sake, and the franchise’s sake, I hope they surprise everybody.

Cowboys are still winning the division, though.

By: orakpownd

orakpownd — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:56:06 +0000

KEEP SLEEPING

By: geemoney713

geemoney713 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:55:26 +0000

First positive article Rosenthal has written about the skins. NOW we can say he’s an unbiased writer!

By: realitypolice

realitypolice — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:51:53 +0000

Wait a minute.

Wasn’t Grossman 19 for 26 with 207 yards last week against the first team Steeler defense with a 90 yard drive?

The Redskins are doing a fine job of bouncing back from not being off season champions for the first time in years by running away with the pre-season championship this year.

By: toonsterwu

toonsterwu — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:50:16 +0000

It’s an impressive, albeit, meaningless, game, but Rosenthal is probably right – the Shanahan’s were looking for anything to pretty much give the job to Beck.

Skillset wise, Beck is a fit for this offense, with his mobility and short-to-intermediate accuracy. The way I look at it is that he’ll likely be more Brian Griese/Jake Plummer than Jay Cutler for the Shanny offense. Even though he doesn’t have a big arm, he probably is a bigger threat pushing the ball downfield than Rex Grossman.

Overall, though, with an average (albeit, improved) receiving corps, this will be ground and pound, while working the intermediate areas with Davis/Cooley, and hoping for an occasional downfield bomb to Moss/Armstrong. Manage the game first, don’t lose it, and occasionally take a chance to win it. Beck can probably do that.

The bigger thing for them is getting the defense fixed, as they’ve given it a lot of attention this offseason. Perry Riley is an intriguing option inside, and Josh Wilson is an upgrade. That said, I still don’t like their CB depth, and I would spread the Skins out as much as possible to force Atogwe/Landry into coverage.

By: nitzenbaum - not yer momma's 'skins fan

nitzenbaum - not yer momma's 'skins fan — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:48:37 +0000

C’mon sluggos! I mean seriously? Face your 20 year old age, Coach Shanahan is a great coach. These guys look well coached and it is game 2. All’s I know is that they look well coached. The real season will start soon enough and the ‘skins have an easy schedule. Quit yer bitchin’ about rat face or whatever ’cause you know you aren’t a sight yourself nancies. Cheer for your sucky ass Eagle until your Super Bowl never comes. Personally, I don’t remember seeing one – and I’m 41 years old loooooooooozers.

By: andyb053

andyb053 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:46:25 +0000

I don’t get the Skins’ hatred on this site. The Yankees, Red Sox, Cowboys, Steelers, Lakers…these are all teams that are largely hated because they’re consistently pretty good or elite. I don’t know what there is to hate about a team that has not been a threat to anyone in the NFL for almost 20 years. How many Lions and Bengals haters do you know?

By: hailvictory10

hailvictory10 — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:37:50 +0000

hail Victory

Mike Shanahan knows more about football than you all do

By: jbcommonsense

jbcommonsense — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:37:22 +0000

Pre-season or not, bad QBs do not go 14 for 17, leading their team to 16 pts in a half. I think Shanny may be right about Beck. I still want to see him hit a WR deep. If Beck can do that, he will be very promising.

By: skinsdiehard

skinsdiehard — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 02:28:55 +0000

heavyjumbo says:
Aug 19, 2011 9:27 PM
John Beck will now make it easy on the Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants.
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F…..them all. Kiss the rings, bitches!