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		<title>By: dallasbaby</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These idiots are ruining the game for all of us who like to enjoy and talk trash, but leave it at talking. So ridiculous and unnecessary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These idiots are ruining the game for all of us who like to enjoy and talk trash, but leave it at talking. So ridiculous and unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: suckitphilly</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You philly fans are despicable, using this story to try and clear your name. Just because these Bay Area fans suck, does not mean that you don&#039;t CONTINUE to suck. You just suck by a different ocean!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You philly fans are despicable, using this story to try and clear your name. Just because these Bay Area fans suck, does not mean that you don&#8217;t CONTINUE to suck. You just suck by a different ocean!</p>
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		<title>By: 1bigtex</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve delayed commenting on the actions at Candlestick over the weekend for several reasons, but mainly to collect my thoughts on the subject.

What are we coming to?  After watching videos of fights in the stands and the parking lots, what are we coming to?  Why do we have posters on here telling us &quot;That&#039;s what happens when you wear your gear into enemy territory.&quot;  What?  At what point is it acceptable to attack someone over clothing?  And why have we become such a nation of videographers?  There&#039;s a fight going on in the parking lot and instead of behaving as responsible citizens and adults should and taking steps to quell the hostility, we all have to grab our cell phones and get the footage.  What is going on?  Do you think that Spielberg is going to call you up and offer you a job because he loved the way you framed the shot?  Take some action.  Step in as a group and grab the combatants and stop this nonsense.  It continues to happen because we, as a society, permit it to happen.  When will society decide that it&#039;s had enough?  Would we rather curb the behavior or live with it?  Put me down for the former.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve delayed commenting on the actions at Candlestick over the weekend for several reasons, but mainly to collect my thoughts on the subject.</p>
<p>What are we coming to?  After watching videos of fights in the stands and the parking lots, what are we coming to?  Why do we have posters on here telling us &#8220;That&#8217;s what happens when you wear your gear into enemy territory.&#8221;  What?  At what point is it acceptable to attack someone over clothing?  And why have we become such a nation of videographers?  There&#8217;s a fight going on in the parking lot and instead of behaving as responsible citizens and adults should and taking steps to quell the hostility, we all have to grab our cell phones and get the footage.  What is going on?  Do you think that Spielberg is going to call you up and offer you a job because he loved the way you framed the shot?  Take some action.  Step in as a group and grab the combatants and stop this nonsense.  It continues to happen because we, as a society, permit it to happen.  When will society decide that it&#8217;s had enough?  Would we rather curb the behavior or live with it?  Put me down for the former.</p>
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		<title>By: txhc</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;laeaglefan says:
Aug 21, 2011 10:12 AM
What happened to the days when a little boy could go to a game with his father and not worry about getting assaulted?&quot;

They still exist in most other places outside of California and Philly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;laeaglefan says:<br />
Aug 21, 2011 10:12 AM<br />
What happened to the days when a little boy could go to a game with his father and not worry about getting assaulted?&#8221;</p>
<p>They still exist in most other places outside of California and Philly.</p>
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		<title>By: japadacktle49</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 06:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This issue is one of the reasons I sell or give away my preseason tickets. 99% of these idiots do not attend regular season games, they get free/$5 tickets liquor up, drug up &amp; fight each-other these are degenerate ignorant gangster&#039;s that have no business in a public setting and most likely end-up in our State Correctional facilities or yours. 
   I have been a 49er season ticket holder for years and like any other pro sporting event in the country you do have your occasional drunken scuffles but for the most part Candlestick is a safe environment with plenty of Police &amp; security presence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This issue is one of the reasons I sell or give away my preseason tickets. 99% of these idiots do not attend regular season games, they get free/$5 tickets liquor up, drug up &amp; fight each-other these are degenerate ignorant gangster&#8217;s that have no business in a public setting and most likely end-up in our State Correctional facilities or yours.<br />
   I have been a 49er season ticket holder for years and like any other pro sporting event in the country you do have your occasional drunken scuffles but for the most part Candlestick is a safe environment with plenty of Police &amp; security presence.</p>
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		<title>By: slapyourselfstupid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 04:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What has happened in California is the adaptation of sports teams to reflect your loyalty as to which City and “side” you represent in gang culture, on a large scale. With the “Northern/Southern” California gang civil war, allegiance is displayed by teams that are geographically located to the participants. Northern California over the last 20 years has had a huge influx of Southern California gangs establishing presence. They Nortenos wear red and usually wear 49er gear, where as Southerners will wear Raiders gear and to a lesser extent Charger gear as well, since both Los Angeles and San Diego are the biggest cities in So Cal. Don’t get me wrong, to certain extent there are by no means an obligation to have to choose to wear the teams colors, but it is a generalization and an easy way as an identifier who you rep one side or another. As such, there are Nortenos of course in Oakland and surrounding areas that are Raider fans as well. What I have seen over the last 10 or so years is a “football bangin’” mentality, that even so those with no participation in a gang view any insults and bickering from an opposing fan as a sign of disrespect, and to not “man up” is showing weakness. There are a few variables one can throw in the mix, i.e. alcohol, just wanting to pick a fight, etc. but I share the same sentiment with many of you that it has gotten out of hand. I have been up North and had good times in San Francisco to watch a Giants game, but a few fans that are tanked up want to “politick” over my jersey. Sad indeed. Same thing with L.A., where a decent amount of their Dodger fan base they have a Patriarch Alpha male complex where they have to feel better about themselves by drinking it up and talking smack. And I can certainly say that it is reciprocated and almost every stadium I have been to there are always fights between fans. Down in San Diego the Charger/Raider games are marred with violence, all the time, with a heavy L.A. gang influx coming down and local Charger fans and “bangers” have an unsettling antangonistic feeling towards the “Invasion”.
I used to watch those soccer match riots were people died and wondered, what the hell for? So stupid. Of course, Alcohol and ethnic pride are the motives for such violence. I had a feeling it would slowly creep into our pasttimes sooner than later due to humanities lack of compassion and ignorance, along with the proliferation of the California “gangster” lifestyle. 

And people, enough with the “Illegal” or “Mexican” assumptions that truly display your ignorance along with an embedded fear, because last time I checked, a coward like the shooter can be anyone, of any ethnicity. And you people that do not have anything positive to say about California must have a jealousy complex. Its bad everywhere. Go ahead and name your “beautiful” state and we can easily find parts that are just as run down, if not mimic the California lifestyle. Grow up. I hope all of us can enjoy the game and be respectful without making acccusations or uneducated judgements. Peace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has happened in California is the adaptation of sports teams to reflect your loyalty as to which City and “side” you represent in gang culture, on a large scale. With the “Northern/Southern” California gang civil war, allegiance is displayed by teams that are geographically located to the participants. Northern California over the last 20 years has had a huge influx of Southern California gangs establishing presence. They Nortenos wear red and usually wear 49er gear, where as Southerners will wear Raiders gear and to a lesser extent Charger gear as well, since both Los Angeles and San Diego are the biggest cities in So Cal. Don’t get me wrong, to certain extent there are by no means an obligation to have to choose to wear the teams colors, but it is a generalization and an easy way as an identifier who you rep one side or another. As such, there are Nortenos of course in Oakland and surrounding areas that are Raider fans as well. What I have seen over the last 10 or so years is a “football bangin’” mentality, that even so those with no participation in a gang view any insults and bickering from an opposing fan as a sign of disrespect, and to not “man up” is showing weakness. There are a few variables one can throw in the mix, i.e. alcohol, just wanting to pick a fight, etc. but I share the same sentiment with many of you that it has gotten out of hand. I have been up North and had good times in San Francisco to watch a Giants game, but a few fans that are tanked up want to “politick” over my jersey. Sad indeed. Same thing with L.A., where a decent amount of their Dodger fan base they have a Patriarch Alpha male complex where they have to feel better about themselves by drinking it up and talking smack. And I can certainly say that it is reciprocated and almost every stadium I have been to there are always fights between fans. Down in San Diego the Charger/Raider games are marred with violence, all the time, with a heavy L.A. gang influx coming down and local Charger fans and “bangers” have an unsettling antangonistic feeling towards the “Invasion”.<br />
I used to watch those soccer match riots were people died and wondered, what the hell for? So stupid. Of course, Alcohol and ethnic pride are the motives for such violence. I had a feeling it would slowly creep into our pasttimes sooner than later due to humanities lack of compassion and ignorance, along with the proliferation of the California “gangster” lifestyle. </p>
<p>And people, enough with the “Illegal” or “Mexican” assumptions that truly display your ignorance along with an embedded fear, because last time I checked, a coward like the shooter can be anyone, of any ethnicity. And you people that do not have anything positive to say about California must have a jealousy complex. Its bad everywhere. Go ahead and name your “beautiful” state and we can easily find parts that are just as run down, if not mimic the California lifestyle. Grow up. I hope all of us can enjoy the game and be respectful without making acccusations or uneducated judgements. Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: mogogo1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 03:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@bizzyb559 

You&#039;re 100% correct. The NFL got caught thinking this sort of behavior only happened at Dodger games.  What we&#039;re starting to see is soccer hooliganism beginning to make its way over here.  

Tickets go up constantly...it&#039;s no longer a real family alternative to see more than maybe one or two NFL games a year.  You either get the rich/corporate sponsors who don&#039;t give a crap and show up late and leave early, or you get the rabid fans whose entire identity it wrapped up in the team.  (I know there is an in-between these extremes, but that group shrinks with every price increase.  Don&#039;t tell me that you&#039;re not watching more games on TV now that the recession is still on.)  The NFL says &quot;Charge what the market will bear.&quot;  Well, they&#039;d better be prepared to deal with that market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bizzyb559 </p>
<p>You&#8217;re 100% correct. The NFL got caught thinking this sort of behavior only happened at Dodger games.  What we&#8217;re starting to see is soccer hooliganism beginning to make its way over here.  </p>
<p>Tickets go up constantly&#8230;it&#8217;s no longer a real family alternative to see more than maybe one or two NFL games a year.  You either get the rich/corporate sponsors who don&#8217;t give a crap and show up late and leave early, or you get the rabid fans whose entire identity it wrapped up in the team.  (I know there is an in-between these extremes, but that group shrinks with every price increase.  Don&#8217;t tell me that you&#8217;re not watching more games on TV now that the recession is still on.)  The NFL says &#8220;Charge what the market will bear.&#8221;  Well, they&#8217;d better be prepared to deal with that market.</p>
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		<title>By: mogogo1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 03:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoever is responsible should go to prison for a very long time.  And whoever backed the dude&#039;s play to wear “F- the 49ers” shirt...well, you&#039;re either a total moron or a very bad friend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever is responsible should go to prison for a very long time.  And whoever backed the dude&#8217;s play to wear “F- the 49ers” shirt&#8230;well, you&#8217;re either a total moron or a very bad friend.</p>
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		<title>By: briank1ne</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 00:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i got a solution...only for preseason games...ban alcohol.  and let people smoke weed in the stands...ok well maybe not only for preseason games. maybe for everywhere. oops there goes the violence and the economy crisis. you guys are genius.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got a solution&#8230;only for preseason games&#8230;ban alcohol.  and let people smoke weed in the stands&#8230;ok well maybe not only for preseason games. maybe for everywhere. oops there goes the violence and the economy crisis. you guys are genius.</p>
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		<title>By: kevinhello</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 23:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[California TOTALLY needs another professional sports team....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California TOTALLY needs another professional sports team&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: axespray</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[weren&#039;t viking fans encouraging this kind of behavoir to happen to Packer fans?

you know, when they were calling us &quot;classless&quot; for not having a millionaire athelete go on a field trip with the team....

Suppose the guys that got jumped were beat up cause &quot;They&#039;re classless&quot; ... smh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>weren&#8217;t viking fans encouraging this kind of behavoir to happen to Packer fans?</p>
<p>you know, when they were calling us &#8220;classless&#8221; for not having a millionaire athelete go on a field trip with the team&#8230;.</p>
<p>Suppose the guys that got jumped were beat up cause &#8220;They&#8217;re classless&#8221; &#8230; smh.</p>
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		<title>By: bizzyb559</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some people are just ignorant.  It&#039;s sad news, but not all that uncommon.  I have been a Raider fan since I was a kid, but I don&#039;t go to the games because all the idiots running around.  

The last game I went to, I personally saw 9 people cuffed up, some guy pissing in the corner of the bathroom, drunk or delusional people screaming profanity at the opposing team (like it makes a difference), and several fights.  The NFL cannot deny this is a problem.   They should count the number of Parole Agents, Probation Officers, and Oakland Police Officers at the game if they think this is not serious.  

It&#039;s a shame I cannot go see the team I like because of all the derilicts running around with no shame, character or self respect.  I understand there are many who attend the game who are not as those described above, but it only takes a handfull of hulligans to ruin your experience and who in their right mind would subject their family to such an environment.  

The NFL and the owners really need to clean things up.  Until then, I will just stay at home and watch on TV.  

Peace]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people are just ignorant.  It&#8217;s sad news, but not all that uncommon.  I have been a Raider fan since I was a kid, but I don&#8217;t go to the games because all the idiots running around.  </p>
<p>The last game I went to, I personally saw 9 people cuffed up, some guy pissing in the corner of the bathroom, drunk or delusional people screaming profanity at the opposing team (like it makes a difference), and several fights.  The NFL cannot deny this is a problem.   They should count the number of Parole Agents, Probation Officers, and Oakland Police Officers at the game if they think this is not serious.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame I cannot go see the team I like because of all the derilicts running around with no shame, character or self respect.  I understand there are many who attend the game who are not as those described above, but it only takes a handfull of hulligans to ruin your experience and who in their right mind would subject their family to such an environment.  </p>
<p>The NFL and the owners really need to clean things up.  Until then, I will just stay at home and watch on TV.  </p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: dieselfan44</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[pre-season people...PRE-season...not that if it was regular season it would condone such idiotic behavior, but damn!...hope the v]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pre-season people&#8230;PRE-season&#8230;not that if it was regular season it would condone such idiotic behavior, but damn!&#8230;hope the v</p>
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		<title>By: goldrush94</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tatum064 says: Aug 21, 2011 9:41 AM 
Yes, but that was a “13 year road trip”

LOL.

You would be correct. It would take the Oakland Raiders to move to get L.A. its one ring. Only scoreboard LA has is the 88 World Series.
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0 for 2! Dude get your sports facts straight. Dodgers have 5 championships and Lakers 11 in LA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tatum064 says: Aug 21, 2011 9:41 AM<br />
Yes, but that was a “13 year road trip”</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
<p>You would be correct. It would take the Oakland Raiders to move to get L.A. its one ring. Only scoreboard LA has is the 88 World Series.<br />
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<p>0 for 2! Dude get your sports facts straight. Dodgers have 5 championships and Lakers 11 in LA.</p>
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		<title>By: peoplesrepublic0fdabayarea</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is ALL the fault of illegal-immigrant MEXICAN &quot;fans&quot; from LA who infect the holy Bay Area when they ought to be deported to PHILADELPHIA where they can ally with the BLACKS and molest those plump Philly blonde chicks.

San Francisco and the Bay is more RIGHTEOUS than YOU, &quot;America&quot;!

Obama &#039;12

Vote Socialist and Democrat you sheeple. This way, the SMART Chinese can take over in a few years, sell all your daughters to the A-RABS and SOMALIANS for love, and import some thick-lipped, big-butted AFRICANS to mate with you weak-white REPOOPLICANS from PHILADELPHIA!

- Your welcome,

The Atheist &amp; Gay People&#039;s Republic of The Great San Francisco Bay Area (and Canada).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ALL the fault of illegal-immigrant MEXICAN &#8220;fans&#8221; from LA who infect the holy Bay Area when they ought to be deported to PHILADELPHIA where they can ally with the BLACKS and molest those plump Philly blonde chicks.</p>
<p>San Francisco and the Bay is more RIGHTEOUS than YOU, &#8220;America&#8221;!</p>
<p>Obama &#8217;12</p>
<p>Vote Socialist and Democrat you sheeple. This way, the SMART Chinese can take over in a few years, sell all your daughters to the A-RABS and SOMALIANS for love, and import some thick-lipped, big-butted AFRICANS to mate with you weak-white REPOOPLICANS from PHILADELPHIA!</p>
<p>- Your welcome,</p>
<p>The Atheist &amp; Gay People&#8217;s Republic of The Great San Francisco Bay Area (and Canada).</p>
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		<title>By: recon163</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ 1historian:

&quot;I was just about to go into the service and I was talking to a guy who had just gotten out. I asked him what was the worst thing about being in the service. He thought for a minute and then said “You have to take orders from people you wouldn’t even spit on!!” Now why did I think of that?&quot;

After 27 years of military service I found that there were many folks like this. They had a sense of superiority over their peers and appointed superiors. They believed that they were smarter and better than everyone else and were shocked that no one agreed with them. In the matter of actually performing they were woefully inadequate and would blame everything and everybody for their professional and personal failures. 

A common trait which you evidence here:

&quot;My clever comments aside . . .&quot;

What makes you think your comments are clever?

&quot; . . .stories like this are THE biggest reason I would never even consider going to a pro sports game.&quot;

Well yes of course the entire NFL is a lesser place because you don&#039;t attend games.

So why did this story make you think of that story? Probably because it is giving you a chance to proclaim your superiority over all the inferior peoples of the world, once again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 1historian:</p>
<p>&#8220;I was just about to go into the service and I was talking to a guy who had just gotten out. I asked him what was the worst thing about being in the service. He thought for a minute and then said “You have to take orders from people you wouldn’t even spit on!!” Now why did I think of that?&#8221;</p>
<p>After 27 years of military service I found that there were many folks like this. They had a sense of superiority over their peers and appointed superiors. They believed that they were smarter and better than everyone else and were shocked that no one agreed with them. In the matter of actually performing they were woefully inadequate and would blame everything and everybody for their professional and personal failures. </p>
<p>A common trait which you evidence here:</p>
<p>&#8220;My clever comments aside . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>What makes you think your comments are clever?</p>
<p>&#8221; . . .stories like this are THE biggest reason I would never even consider going to a pro sports game.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well yes of course the entire NFL is a lesser place because you don&#8217;t attend games.</p>
<p>So why did this story make you think of that story? Probably because it is giving you a chance to proclaim your superiority over all the inferior peoples of the world, once again.</p>
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		<title>By: bigchief816</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At least LA doesn&#039;t have the same gang problems as the Bay Area....oh wait.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least LA doesn&#8217;t have the same gang problems as the Bay Area&#8230;.oh wait.</p>
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		<title>By: nomoreseasontix</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We should all thank Mexico for sending us their trash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should all thank Mexico for sending us their trash.</p>
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		<title>By: discosucs2005</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think some people don&#039;t seem to understand that the Bay Area does not include LA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some people don&#8217;t seem to understand that the Bay Area does not include LA.</p>
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		<title>By: dogsweat1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/21/fan-violence-mars-raiders-49ers-game/#comment-1211281</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The battle of which team moves to Los Angeles first!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The battle of which team moves to Los Angeles first!</p>
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		<title>By: packerzman</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/21/fan-violence-mars-raiders-49ers-game/#comment-1211262</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just one more reason to get rid of preseason games all together..like an earlier post talked about , the chances that a regular season ticket holder would be kicking the sh!%t out of another fan in the bathroom or shooting someone in the parking lot is albeit not impossible..very IMprobable and remote. The low attendance and ticket availability at these &quot;hyped scrimmages&quot; make it more likely that they&#039;re a hangout for the dregs of society that would be doing the same thing..drinking and shooting people.. irregardless of where theyre at. They just get national publicity when its at a NFL game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one more reason to get rid of preseason games all together..like an earlier post talked about , the chances that a regular season ticket holder would be kicking the sh!%t out of another fan in the bathroom or shooting someone in the parking lot is albeit not impossible..very IMprobable and remote. The low attendance and ticket availability at these &#8220;hyped scrimmages&#8221; make it more likely that they&#8217;re a hangout for the dregs of society that would be doing the same thing..drinking and shooting people.. irregardless of where theyre at. They just get national publicity when its at a NFL game.</p>
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		<title>By: briank1ne</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/21/fan-violence-mars-raiders-49ers-game/#comment-1211251</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is a damn shame... Im a niners fan that lives in philly. philly fans are classless a-holes...thats for sure. I never been to san fran. for a game. so im not sure how that goes. But for real there is a fight everytime ive been to a philly game. EVERYTIME. but a shooting? thats just complete nonsense. i never got the rivalry either. its afc nfc not even in the same division. stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a damn shame&#8230; Im a niners fan that lives in philly. philly fans are classless a-holes&#8230;thats for sure. I never been to san fran. for a game. so im not sure how that goes. But for real there is a fight everytime ive been to a philly game. EVERYTIME. but a shooting? thats just complete nonsense. i never got the rivalry either. its afc nfc not even in the same division. stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Meloship of the Ring</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/21/fan-violence-mars-raiders-49ers-game/#comment-1211241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meloship of the Ring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im sorry, I live in the bay area. The bay area fans are the worst. It used to be that the raiders drew notoriously bad crowds and now it&#039;s both teams. The niner crowds are just as bad if not worse. It&#039;s embarrassing and ridiculous what is going on with bay area football fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry, I live in the bay area. The bay area fans are the worst. It used to be that the raiders drew notoriously bad crowds and now it&#8217;s both teams. The niner crowds are just as bad if not worse. It&#8217;s embarrassing and ridiculous what is going on with bay area football fans.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboyhater</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/21/fan-violence-mars-raiders-49ers-game/#comment-1211239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cowboyhater]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see a lot philly fans speaking out on this? Please, you deserve every bit of that criticism. I would never go to your stadium to watch my skins. Fans outside the area are never welcomed, and you even have the nerve to come over to FedEx and make an a** out of yourselves. I remember in the day that the Redskin Mascot came back with the broken leg from philly, because he was pushed down an escalator after the game. Trust me, it&#039;s justified philly. What a shame fans from philly, and oakland can&#039;t control themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a lot philly fans speaking out on this? Please, you deserve every bit of that criticism. I would never go to your stadium to watch my skins. Fans outside the area are never welcomed, and you even have the nerve to come over to FedEx and make an a** out of yourselves. I remember in the day that the Redskin Mascot came back with the broken leg from philly, because he was pushed down an escalator after the game. Trust me, it&#8217;s justified philly. What a shame fans from philly, and oakland can&#8217;t control themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: drunkenagitator</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/21/fan-violence-mars-raiders-49ers-game/#comment-1211230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drunkenagitator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your typical knuckle-dragging, grunting, alcohol-addled NFL fans, basically just loosely-organized gangs who tie the outcome of football games to their individual self-esteem. Face it, a solid 50% of these &quot;fans&quot; couldn&#039;t &quot;talk football&quot; if their lives depended upon it. They go to games to wear their little costumes and drink as much alcohol as is humanly possible, then, when the suds run out, they become belligerent a**holes looking to punch people. It&#039;s sad to see grown men get worked into a frenzy over whether the 49er&#039;s are &quot;better than&quot; the Raiders or whatever, as if it matters. They make concert crowds look civilized in comparison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your typical knuckle-dragging, grunting, alcohol-addled NFL fans, basically just loosely-organized gangs who tie the outcome of football games to their individual self-esteem. Face it, a solid 50% of these &#8220;fans&#8221; couldn&#8217;t &#8220;talk football&#8221; if their lives depended upon it. They go to games to wear their little costumes and drink as much alcohol as is humanly possible, then, when the suds run out, they become belligerent a**holes looking to punch people. It&#8217;s sad to see grown men get worked into a frenzy over whether the 49er&#8217;s are &#8220;better than&#8221; the Raiders or whatever, as if it matters. They make concert crowds look civilized in comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: 1historian</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/21/fan-violence-mars-raiders-49ers-game/#comment-1211228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1historian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My clever comments aside - stories like this are THE biggest reason I would never even consider going to a pro sports game. 

Other reasons - cost of tickets, cost of food, cost of drinks, cost of souvenirs, cost of transportation to get there, cost to park, waiting in traffic after the game, etc.

What to do? 

1) Buy a 6-pack of good beer $10
2) Bag of chips or whatever $3
3) Getting up to take a leak whenever - PRICELESS!!
4) Steak or whatever - $12
5) Getting up to take (another) leak whenever - PRICELESS!!!

For some reason I just thought of something that happened many years ago. I was just about to go into the service and I was talking to a guy who had just gotten out. I asked him what was the worst thing about being in the service. He thought for a minute and then said &quot;You have to take orders from people you wouldn&#039;t even spit on!!&quot;

Now why did I think of that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My clever comments aside &#8211; stories like this are THE biggest reason I would never even consider going to a pro sports game. </p>
<p>Other reasons &#8211; cost of tickets, cost of food, cost of drinks, cost of souvenirs, cost of transportation to get there, cost to park, waiting in traffic after the game, etc.</p>
<p>What to do? </p>
<p>1) Buy a 6-pack of good beer $10<br />
2) Bag of chips or whatever $3<br />
3) Getting up to take a leak whenever &#8211; PRICELESS!!<br />
4) Steak or whatever &#8211; $12<br />
5) Getting up to take (another) leak whenever &#8211; PRICELESS!!!</p>
<p>For some reason I just thought of something that happened many years ago. I was just about to go into the service and I was talking to a guy who had just gotten out. I asked him what was the worst thing about being in the service. He thought for a minute and then said &#8220;You have to take orders from people you wouldn&#8217;t even spit on!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now why did I think of that?</p>
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		<title>By: dogsweat1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/21/fan-violence-mars-raiders-49ers-game/#comment-1211222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dogsweat1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any Male that uses a public toliet in San Francisco-should be on red alert!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any Male that uses a public toliet in San Francisco-should be on red alert!</p>
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		<title>By: zeussuperman</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/21/fan-violence-mars-raiders-49ers-game/#comment-1211219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zeussuperman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[east96st says: Aug 21, 2011 9:52 AM

You want to know why everyone considers Philly fans the worse? There is one man in a coma, another one beaten, and two that got shot and you assclowns come on here and whine “woe is me!”. Clueless, self centered bastards. THAT’S why you are hated across the entire nation. No empathy, no consideration for others. You honestly think everything is about you.

------------------------------

Says the guy from New York city, the most self-centered city in the world.

Not to mention, east96st, you&#039;re one of the worst trolls when it comes to &quot;Philly is an evil city, look how bad their fans are!&quot; -- so yeah, we resent the label as &quot;worst sports fans&quot; and we&#039;d be a lot less defensive about it if ignorant asses like yourself didn&#039;t use every justification to go for the throat of the people of Philadelphia.

Don&#039;t complain about the fire when you&#039;ve thrown gasoline on it in the past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>east96st says: Aug 21, 2011 9:52 AM</p>
<p>You want to know why everyone considers Philly fans the worse? There is one man in a coma, another one beaten, and two that got shot and you assclowns come on here and whine “woe is me!”. Clueless, self centered bastards. THAT’S why you are hated across the entire nation. No empathy, no consideration for others. You honestly think everything is about you.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Says the guy from New York city, the most self-centered city in the world.</p>
<p>Not to mention, east96st, you&#8217;re one of the worst trolls when it comes to &#8220;Philly is an evil city, look how bad their fans are!&#8221; &#8212; so yeah, we resent the label as &#8220;worst sports fans&#8221; and we&#8217;d be a lot less defensive about it if ignorant asses like yourself didn&#8217;t use every justification to go for the throat of the people of Philadelphia.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t complain about the fire when you&#8217;ve thrown gasoline on it in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: 1historian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1historian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My clever comments aside this is]]></description>
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		<title>By: 1historian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1historian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[welcome to the hotel california

it&#039;s all urine, friends and neighbors, it&#039;s ALL urine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome to the hotel california</p>
<p>it&#8217;s all urine, friends and neighbors, it&#8217;s ALL urine</p>
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