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Trade-or-release talk surfaces for Tebow

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Now that Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow has dropped to the bottom of the depth chart in Denver, there’s suddenly scuttlebutt and speculation that Tebow could be run out of town.

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen isn’t buying it.  He reported earlier tonight on Monday Night Countdown that the Broncos recently gave Tebow a check for $6.7 million, part of the guaranteed money in his first-round rookie deal.  Said Mort of Tebow, “They’re not about to trade him, they’re not about to release him.”

But the question of whether to keep or to move Tebow depends on much more than $6.7 million that the Broncos committed to pay when they signed him in 2010.  The issue is whether the Broncos believe Tebow has a future with the team, and whether they want to keep him around if they’ve concluded that he doesn’t.

Though it’s very possible that new coach John Fox has decided that he’s not a believer in Tebow, it would be a mistake to run him off right now.  Success of the franchise in 2011 would make a Tebow trade an easier pill for the locals to swallow, and Tebow’s presence provides a little leverage in the looming contract talks with Kyle Orton, who’ll be a free agent after this season.

Then there’s the challenge of finding a trade partner.  Unless former Broncos coach Josh McDaniels parlays one season as the Rams’ offensive coordinator into a second bite at the NFL apple, there may be no one who’d want Tebow.

In the end, this is simply another example of the reality that a new head coach wants his own guy at quarterback.  Tebow was the last guy’s guy, which makes the new guy naturally less inclined to keep him around, absent a reason to believe that Tebow is the real deal.

If Fox thought that, Tebow wouldn’t have fallen behind Brady Quinn.

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  1. scudbot says: Aug 22, 2011 9:20 PM

    Silliness. If Elway thinks that Gase can’t teach him to be a pro QB in a couple years, get a new QB coach. If that doesn’t work, release him.

  2. zinn22 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:20 PM

    In the end, this is simply another example of the reality that a new head coach wants his own guy at quarterback. Tebow was the last guy’s guy, which makes the new guy naturally less inclined to keep him around, absent a reason to believe that Tebow is the real deal.

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    This simply could be the case that Tebow is not close to being a NFL QB. No Favoritism or Mangini/McCoy like Bias here but simply Tebow is very bad and limited in what he can do at the NFL level.

  3. naterysavy says: Aug 22, 2011 9:21 PM

    What’s the hurry? Everyone knew he needed time to develop when he got drafted. Now all of a sudden people are surprised he’s not ready. In the mean time, Tebow can be useful in packages that highlight what he does well and the broncos have a servicable starter to take the snaps while he learns.

    If anything, the Broncos should trade Quinn.

  4. dldove77 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:21 PM

    Anyone who thinks John Fox is adept at making decisions need only look at his coaching record: three playoff appearances in nine seasons. The king of the draw play on third-and-long, the coach who only wants a QB who won’t screw things up, but gave Jake Delhomme a multi-year extension after the had six turnovers in a home playoff game. John Fox is a below average coach at best and it doesn’t surprise me at all that Tebow isn’t “his guy.”

  5. theguywhosaidit says: Aug 22, 2011 9:22 PM

    QB’s take time to develop, Tebow more then others with his mechanics. The change in coaches didn’t speed that up any. He is a project QB with high upside, but he needs work. Just say that and develop him, he isn’t in the tree of Manning, Ryan or Stafford/Bradford; sit him for a couple years and develop the guy.

    The front-office needs to just come out and say that. “Tebow is a very gifted athlete and he fits our plans in the future, but he needs time to develop into the quality QB we believe he can be”

    End of story.

  6. rjkilla says: Aug 22, 2011 9:22 PM

    tebow better start saying his prayers if he wants to stay in the league

  7. footballfanatic3431 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:22 PM

    Let me put an end to this right now.

    Tebow isn’t even the 3rd string QB yet. He was 3rd string for last weeks pre season game against the Bills. He was 2nd string the week before against the Cowboys. Tim got his chance with the 2nd stringers against the Cowboys so it was Quinn’s turn this week. We will probably see Tebow back with the 2nd stringers this week against the Seahawks.

    This is a non-story but because it is Tim Tebow the media blew the story up saying how Tebow has regressed and is 3rd string and how he could possibly be traded or cut.

    The whole thing is B.S.

    Tim is not going to be the starting quarterback for the Broncos this year, but that’s fine. Most of the Bronco fans recognize how much the lockout hurt Tim’s development so we’re willing to let Orton play another year then hand it off to Tebow next year. We aren’t trading him and we aren’t cutting him. Period.

  8. talkintrashallday says: Aug 22, 2011 9:23 PM

    BUST

  9. whichiwhichwawa says: Aug 22, 2011 9:23 PM

    he should thank mcdaniels every moment of his life for the $6.7M check!!!!

  10. mgifford7 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:24 PM

    This is such stupid talk. Denver has a starter in place, And Tebow has been in the league for 2 years. What is the rush to put Tebow on the field. It’s gotten ridiculous.

  11. mutatedzombierat says: Aug 22, 2011 9:24 PM

    Wow, so soon? He can be a versatile guy, he doesn’t have to be a QB. I’d hang on to him for a while.

  12. clawledge says: Aug 22, 2011 9:25 PM

    Trade Tebow to a team who wants him.

  13. drgfri says: Aug 22, 2011 9:26 PM

    Yawn….. Did we ever really think Tebow was going to be a good QB in the NFL? He was a great college QB, perhaps the best ever, but his play was never expected to translate into the NFL. He looks awful out there!

  14. shaggytoodle says: Aug 22, 2011 9:26 PM

    I think he should retire, come back get traded to the Jets, retire then go to the Raiders to stick it to Denver.

  15. footballfanman says: Aug 22, 2011 9:27 PM

    Hey Tebow, switch to FB.

  16. dfwxpress says: Aug 22, 2011 9:27 PM

    Is there any talk about switching positions? I know Lou Holtz said before he came out he would make a great inside linebacker. I don’t know about that but what about FS or H-Back?

  17. bmwaldrop says: Aug 22, 2011 9:29 PM

    The Broncos aren’t going to trade him or release him before the season…if anything, they’ll see what he can do this season (yes, he’ll probably play later this season).

    If he’s released, someone will take a chance on him. Whether he’s a QB or not, he is talented.

  18. mrvikingsfan11 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:29 PM

    Tebow is and always will be a bust!!!!!

  19. drunkenagitator says: Aug 22, 2011 9:30 PM

    Nonsense, if they cut him it’ll make the organization appear even more foolish than it already does. No way some other team wouldn’t give him a shot, even trash like Pryor got a bite and he’s not even half the QB Tebow is.

  20. ezra954 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:31 PM

    You can’t cut Jesus

  21. cletusvandam says: Aug 22, 2011 9:31 PM

    The raiders should offer Denver their 3rd round pick…oh wait

  22. gulaid26 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:32 PM

    If the brass doesn’t like the way he plays why play him? Cut your losses and move on. That’s what I do in franchise mode,anyway.

  23. jetsetfred says: Aug 22, 2011 9:32 PM

    Denver is Stupid.. Either Play him and see what you have in real games or trade him… period.. Colts can use a backup….

  24. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Aug 22, 2011 9:33 PM

    ABSURD. You take a guy that everyone knows is a project and needs time to work his way into the NFL(and is willing to work as hard as it takes) and you don’t give him but ONE YEAR? JUST STUPID. My god, Mark Rypien was stashed on IR for years and went on to be a super bowl QB. Very rarely is a qb able to play right away, especially a development QB. Just ridiculous, and I’m not a “Tebow guy”. I just think everyone has become so short sighted that they are unwilling to develop players.

  25. vikingsinla says: Aug 22, 2011 9:33 PM

    His value extends beyond the field; no one leads the team prayer like Tebow.

  26. tfbuckfutter says: Aug 22, 2011 9:33 PM

    Damn.

    That’s a lot of scratch to pay a chaplain.

  27. lionpride10 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:34 PM

    Tebow is a development guy. A smart coach would let him work with a vet for a few years and let him progress. I think this guys career will sadly be ruined by Josh McDaniels. Everyone sees him as his product because he drafted him. Thats not Tebows fault.

  28. raiderrob21 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:36 PM

    Any knowledgeable NFL fan knew Tebow was a 5th rd at best “Project” But thank you Donkeys for taking him in the 1st rd! What a great pick! The Media created the Tebow fascination. Now they will all pretend they had no part of it.

  29. christinamer says: Aug 22, 2011 9:36 PM

    For doing a whole lot of nothing, Tebow is sure one talked about player. I feel like I should care. Yet, I don’t.

  30. broncobourque says: Aug 22, 2011 9:37 PM

    Can you imagine if the Packers traded Rodgers as quick as some people want to run off Tebow? OR if the 49ers had traded off Young…

    Tebow was never supposed to be a day one starter or even a starter on day one of his second year. In his limited time on the field last season he had the best QB rating of any rookie yet the fact that he is behind a couple of veteran QBs means he is worthless?!?

    Tebow might never amount to anything as an NFL QB, at this point there is no way anybody really knows. With that being the case, there is absolutely no reason the Broncos would trade him unless some other team gave up at least the 1st round pick they used to pick him, which is obviously extremely unlikely. Maybe we should let him and the situation develop without the daily updates and rumors.

  31. americankris says: Aug 22, 2011 9:38 PM

    lol The Broncos are gonna give up on Tebow like the Falcons gave up on Brett Favre it didnt work for my Falcons and it wont work for the Broncos

  32. lasher1650 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:38 PM

    Just because the guy is a poster-boy for Christianity doesn’t mean he can play football. A QB that lacks the requisite skill to accurately throw the football is a complete non-starter for the position. I will be happy when he is in the CFL so the Tebow drama will go away, as this guy has gotten way too much attention for a guy that just isn’t really any good.

  33. vikingshuff says: Aug 22, 2011 9:41 PM

    This is awesome! I’m so sick of hearing of how Tebow is a “winner.” The correct terminology is he WAS a winner IN COLLEGE. The reality is that he’s in the NFL now and he’s not a winner, he’s a #3 QB that runs the scout team and is on the verge of getting cut! No worries about who will be the QB next year, I’ve got a feeling that with Elway in town, they are going to break the bank to go get Luck next year!

  34. cowboynation919 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:43 PM

    At one time Tim Tebow’s Bronco’s jersey was the highest selling jersey. I hate to be those people if he is traded or released. Guy never even got a chance. Not that he truly showed he is capable anyway.

  35. elliotlc says: Aug 22, 2011 9:45 PM

    So now we are going to just believe everything merril hodge says now? He says they should trade or cut him and now everyone thinks they might trade or cut him?! Give me a break they are not going to start him this year but he is going to be apart of the offense there is no doubt that he will be apart of this team for quite a bit longer than 1 year.

  36. wtfchiefs says: Aug 22, 2011 9:47 PM

    So does he have to remake the protein drink commercial where he thanks his critics for saying he’ll never be a starting NFL QB now?

  37. hobartbaker says: Aug 22, 2011 9:48 PM

    Yeah, right. Tebow is third string in Denver with a mediocre career backup, Kolb, starting in Arizona. A Semi-retarded Recidivist starting in Carolina, and Raggedy Andy Debacle in Cincy. Makes all kind of sense. Did I mention Slow Action Jackson and Charlie Manson in Seattle? Or the Middle Aged Mormon Tabernacle Choirboy in D.C.?

  38. lostsok says: Aug 22, 2011 9:50 PM

    Denver backed themselves into this corner when they over-reached on Orton’s value. He was valuable to Maimi for ONE YEAR as a fill-in, but they (clearly) weren’t going to overpay.

    Now, Denver is NOT going to win the division with Orton. The difference with Orton vs Brady might be 8 wins instead of 6. And maybe they only win 4-5 with Tebow…BUT…it would be an exciting 4-5 wins building towards the future.

    Denver is building towards n0thing with Kyle Orton. They are 2 years away from having a championship defense, and that’s assuming they make good moves during that time.

    Horrible string of decision making by Denver. I think Elway will “get it” eventually, but he has to learn that value is a mutable thing in the NFL. Someone that is valuable today is flotsam tomorrow.

  39. elliotlc says: Aug 22, 2011 9:50 PM

    They addressed this on the radio this afternoon and it had no truth it’s just stupid espn people and Schlereth who works for espn agreed it’s just hodge creating controversy and he is the only QB under contract next year so you really think they would get rid of him that’s stupid

  40. theonlynjd says: Aug 22, 2011 9:51 PM

    There is ZERO chance of this happening. Despite his 6+ million check he has just received, he is the only QB on the roster that has a contract beyond this year. Orton and Quinn will both be free agents after 2011.

    Fun Fact: No team in the history of the NFL has traded or released the only QB contractually obligated to be on the roster beyond the current season.

    This is a non-story. Furthermore, the 2 home games Tebow started last year caused a 22% increase in ticket purchases. He is going nowhere.

  41. lildon96 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:52 PM

    “…and starting at tight end for your Los Angeles Jaguars, Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim Teeeeeeeeeeeeebooooooo!”

  42. tatum064 says: Aug 22, 2011 9:54 PM

    naterysavy says:
    Aug 22, 2011 9:21 PM
    What’s the hurry? Everyone knew he needed time to develop when he got drafted. Now all of a sudden people are surprised he’s not ready. In the mean time, Tebow can be useful in packages that highlight what he does well and the broncos have a servicable starter to take the snaps while he learns.

    If anything, the Broncos should trade Quinn.
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    I kind of agree on that, but would draft pick would Quinn yield v. what’s Tebow’s worth? Wouldnt they devalue him by keeping him on the roster?

    One thing’s for certain; Fox isnt risking his regime on a guy he didnt draft. Tebow’s style of play is more apt to yield turnovers, and that is anathema to a defensive/run heavy team that Fox is attempting to build.

  43. vikingshuff says: Aug 22, 2011 9:54 PM

    I’m sorry, but you do not take “project” QBs in the first round, you take franchise caliber QBs and this was Denver’s first mistake. Tebow was/is and always has been the most overrated player to ever!

  44. scudbot says: Aug 22, 2011 9:55 PM

    Tebow came out of an offense that’s nothing like what the NFL runs. Broncos have a lot invested. Give the guy the resources he needs and give him through 2012. If the Broncos are willing to do that, trade him.

  45. arsement says: Aug 22, 2011 9:56 PM

    I do not like the media attention this situation is getting.

    Did anyone hear from Aaron Rodgers before his fifth season in the NFL? He and the Packers are a model of how a player like Tebow (needs to develop and work on mechanics) should be used on a team.

    I am not really buying the trade and release talks.

  46. jerranamo says: Aug 22, 2011 9:57 PM

    all the religious jokes are lame and tired.. get new material people!

    anyways, Tebow is a football player and the kind of guy who will play whatever position is asked of him. thats just his character. noone is expecting him to be a star NFL QB but he will have a good career as a football player. He is a hard worker, and isnt a knuckle-head; a trait that is very overlooked in todays NFL. Good luck to him. Hopefully he lands on a team that will find a way to utilize his skill set.

  47. Deb says: Aug 22, 2011 9:58 PM

    Tebow is a great athlete with a lot of positives. But he has drawbacks: no experience in a pro-style offense and an ingrained throwing motion that’s too slow and cumbersome. If he’d gone in the 3rd or 4th round–as he should have–a team could afford the luxury of letting him work on his throwing motion or try out at TE or RB. But McDaniels moved up to take him in the first. Now he’s being overpaid and can’t live up to first-round expectations. Enter Fox and Elway, who aren’t sold. And Elway’s not thrilled at hearing some fans claim this huge question mark will unseat him as the best Broncos QB ever.

    It’s not in Denver’s interest to deal Tebow now … but McDaniels has left him in an uncomfortable position.

  48. drtharrison says: Aug 22, 2011 9:58 PM

    Tebow to Miami for Phillip Merling, DL. Straight up. Miami has a glutton of DL. Former top pick of the second round.

    Tebow can sit the year and then Miami makes a decision on Henne.

    (Plus wouldn’t be fun to see Tebow and Henne on the same team after Henne ridiculed him in the press before Tebow was drafted?)

  49. melonnhead says: Aug 22, 2011 9:59 PM

    Trade him to the Eagles. That would make three running backs playing QB for them. Plus imagine the comedy that would ensue having him on the same roster as Mike Vick and Vince Young. He might even beat Young out of his spot.

  50. deconjonesbitchslap says: Aug 22, 2011 9:59 PM

    he’s still a hell of an athlete. the guy just has to work with somebody to train him better.

  51. whatswiththehate says: Aug 22, 2011 9:59 PM

    It seems every year these sports guys choose a QB, they want the public to believe is the “All American QB” groomed to take the place of Peyton and Tom Bardy. Then they also pick the QB they want the public to join them in over analyzing the picking apart. These are the QBs whose career will be over before it get started. They will not be given much of a chance because these sports guru have them pegged as “projects.” Last year it was Tim Tebow. This year it’s Cam.

    Judging by the “we’re not going to give him any breathing room to not be perfect” attitude being projected at Cam, vs. the “we feel sorry for him but he isn’t welcomed in Denver” attitude directed at Tim, it seems almost safe to say that Tim will be traded to a team where the sports media folks will eventually leave him alone but they will do their doing their darnest to run Cam out of the NFL with ridiculous and unrealistic expectation just to ware him out, so they can say, we told u “certain QBs,” will never succeed in the NFL.

  52. henrykissingerisgod says: Aug 22, 2011 10:00 PM

    All you can now send your apologies to Merrill hoge…

  53. jaypace says: Aug 22, 2011 10:01 PM

    It’s funny the guy is a bust after playing three games. Some of you sound real silly. You can’t say in the three games he’s played as a starter he played poorly. An 83 passer rating says you are throwing the ball ok. 5 Tds against 3 ints means the guy is a bust. At worst all you can say is you don’t know what you have yet. How anybody can claim to know what a player is after three games is laughable. Then players like Peyton manning and Warren sapp should have been released after their first three games. Any of you talking that nonsense, not only gets a come on man, you also get a come on son.

  54. buckybadger says: Aug 22, 2011 10:02 PM

    Those comparing Tebow to the Favre and Rodgers cases are a bit off. Tebow isn’t the drop back passer they where and it is becoming clear he may never be. Atlanta dropped Favre because he was a drunk. It took Holmgren to get him to play any good. Rodgers was bad at first but at least he wasn’t learning the basic mechanics at this point, he was learning the offense. Tebow for all the hard work he says he does hasn’t progressed at all. Instead of working with QB gurus this off season he was doing book signings. He is a fraud when talks about his work ethic.

  55. tinopuno says: Aug 22, 2011 10:05 PM

    naterysavy says: Aug 22, 2011 9:21 PM

    What’s the hurry? Everyone knew he needed time to develop when he got drafted. Now all of a sudden people are surprised he’s not ready. In the mean time, Tebow can be useful carrying heavy packages for real player’s wives and flashing that winning smile to true believers.
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    Fixed!

  56. cbass59 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:08 PM

    Mark May is going to be pissed when he hears this.

    How does one trade or release Superman?

  57. promickey says: Aug 22, 2011 10:09 PM

    Wow, So much chatter over a 3rd string QB.

  58. tinopuno says: Aug 22, 2011 10:10 PM

    broncobourque says: Aug 22, 2011 9:37 PM

    Can you imagine if the Packers traded Rodgers as quick as some people want to run off Tebow? OR if the 49ers had traded off Young…

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    Or if the Raiders had cut Russell?
    God bless you for your objectivity!

  59. 6thsense79 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:11 PM

    thereisalwaysnextyear says:Aug 22, 2011 9:33 PM

    ABSURD. You take a guy that everyone knows is a project and needs time to work his way into the NFL(and is willing to work as hard as it takes) and you don’t give him but ONE YEAR? JUST STUPID. My god, Mark Rypien was stashed on IR for years and went on to be a super bowl QB. Very rarely is a qb able to play right away, especially a development QB. Just ridiculous, and I’m not a “Tebow guy”. I just think everyone has become so short sighted that they are unwilling to develop players.
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    Sorry but this regime didn’t pick Tebow. It was the previous regime’s pick. If this front office was in charge of the Broncos do you think they would have taken Tebow in the first round? Everyone says McDaniels was reaching heavily for where he drafted Tebow. So why act shocked when another coach and new front office comes in and aren’t enarmored with the guy?

  60. tunesmith says: Aug 22, 2011 10:13 PM

    More silliness…

    Orton came into camp as the starter. Fox/Elway were clear about that in the offseason. Tebow and Quinn were both offered a chance to compete.

    Neither has matched or outperformed Orton, but both Quinn and Tebow are improved from last season. (Those who say Tebow has taken a step backwards are not paying attention to his fundamentals – they’re greatly improved).

    Broncos are in a pretty good position here. Orton *seems* elite, and if he continues to have clutch problems, they have good options from two quarterbacks that are still better than a handful of starters on other teams.

  61. damnskins703 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:17 PM

    A lot of you haters really dislike tebow and I came to the conclusion that he must have whooped up on your college team when he played at Fla

  62. oarangecrush says: Aug 22, 2011 10:18 PM

    They seem to be raising quinns stock. Tebow hasn’t even had a chance with first team o-line like Quinn did against the bills. Trying to make him look good so they can get a dt out of someone!

  63. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 22, 2011 10:18 PM

    Um… Who exactly is talking trade or release? Is it anyone who matters, or just media speculation?

  64. ratbastardshanahandjob says: Aug 22, 2011 10:19 PM

    NFL. Stands for “Not For Long” if you Timmy Rah-Rah…….Can’t wait to hear Timmy Rah-Rah say how blessed he is as he’s being cut……

    Try a position you might make it at. Fullback…..

  65. laeaglefan says: Aug 22, 2011 10:20 PM

    I don’t get it. What made anyone think that Tebow would ever be a championship caliber QB in the NFL? He’s a backup at best. Another Koy Detmer. Another Mike Kafka. Maybe he can hold for field goals and extra points, but you will never see this guy leading a team to a win in the Super Bowl.

  66. chobes68 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:24 PM

    While I’m def no Tebow fanboy. The idea of letting him go this soon is absurd. He obviously has a strong work ethic, and played pretty well at the end of the year last season. IMO, you need to give a player 3 years to see if he’s got a shot before you move a rookie.

  67. packerfan1000 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:26 PM

    When you’ve got three QBs who could possibly start, you’ve got none. Orton is not a good quarterback either. He will throw for 60 yards every single drive, and all of them will be between the 20s. I can’t wait to draft Matt Prater on my fantasy team!

  68. freedomispopular says: Aug 22, 2011 10:27 PM

    Ship him to Philly. A few years there and Andy Reid will work wonders with him. Then trade him for a 2nd rounder.

  69. jaypace says: Aug 22, 2011 10:28 PM

    Tebow is the type of player you have to build your offense around. The days of the run the ball stop the run NFL are over. You have to score points. And a qb who is a dual threat is more valuable. He scored 11 Tds last year in limited action. But you have to commit to building around him. Like the offense in Philly caters to m vick’s skill set, they move the pocket get him out on the edge. Those are similar things you have to do with tebow. I mean how Denver hired j fox is a mystery to me. The only team with a worse record and you hire their coach. And as someone put it already there are worse qbs that are going to be starting week one.

  70. ftblfan9 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:29 PM

    Not a Tebow fan at all, but he was always a project and the poor kid has no hope at all at Denver any longer. It isn’t fair to him that he is top of NFL news for being “demoted” to third string.

  71. majorseahawk says: Aug 22, 2011 10:34 PM

    Yeah, Tebow got screwed when Fox was brought in. He has no clue on how to develop a QB, Tebow has no future there anymore, he better hope he gets traded to a better team.

  72. charmcityalum says: Aug 22, 2011 10:34 PM

    If they cut him, Ozzie should sign him. Denver gave him their entire draft that year to get Tebow. Plus right now the Ravens are backing up Flacco with rookie Tyrod Taylor. So if Flacco is out for an extended time their probably sunk anyway. They could use Taylor and Tebow to run the call a ton and throw selectively. With their defense they can win with less than stellar QB play and Ozzie would have Denver’s entire 2010 draft plus the player selected with the pick he traded for it. Lmao

  73. MVQB7 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:36 PM

    Trade him to Indy, Miami or Buffalo- See what you can get for him

  74. scoops1 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:38 PM

    …i need to hear what Merrill Hoge has to say

  75. qdog112 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:57 PM

    There are no Tebow haters in the NFL, only businessmen who I think want to cut their losses. Who would trade for him? Who wants the circus to come to town everyday? He has too much baggage and is not worth the trouble that follows him.

    If he doesn’t want to change positions, he won’t play in the NFL. Perhaps Canada is an option. It seems the choice option for other “duel threat QBs.” At this point he’s lucky he’s not the 4th QB.

  76. mayfieldroadboy says: Aug 22, 2011 11:02 PM

    I watched Tebow play college football and was underwhelmed by his ability and overwhelmed by the media’s attention to him as a “super-boy”. He did bag wins in what seemed a most cumbersome way; it seemed as if his college team’s offense was built just to suit his somewhat-awkward style of play.

    He needs NFL tutoring, one or maybe two years. Quinn is the backup now, but may not be with the Broncos next year; Quinn will probably stay in Denver until Tebow settles in or gets traded/released.

    Regardless of the nay-sayers, I see Quinn developing into a fine backup…or maybe, someday, a respectable starter.

  77. tfbuckfutter says: Aug 22, 2011 11:10 PM

    majorseahawk says: Aug 22, 2011 10:34 PM
    Yeah, Tebow got screwed when Fox was brought in. He has no clue on how to develop a QB, Tebow has no future there anymore, he better hope he gets traded to a better team.

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    Fox knows how to get an awful lot out of a countrified bumpkin though.

  78. senordickhaus says: Aug 22, 2011 11:18 PM

    This is such a non-story, it’s pathetic. Just because some B-level writer said something about Tebow being released or traded doesn’t mean it’s gospel. Far from it, actually.

    And as far as I understood, EVERY player is going to retained, cut or traded. That is simply a writer stating the obvious and creating false headlines on the internet.

    Gotta love that good old media sensationalism!

  79. rjc9416 says: Aug 22, 2011 11:20 PM

    Are Fox and Orton good to learn from? Don’t think so. New coaches make safe decisions. Tebow is a winner. May need to move from Denver.

  80. armoderate says: Aug 22, 2011 11:23 PM

    I know you hate Tebow and like to write him off regardless whether it’s warranted, but this time you seem to have carried it a little too far. I looked at the Denver Post, I’ve looked at the Denver Broncos site and listen to John Fox interviews. Unless you got a deep throat in Dove Valley, this is just wild speculation. What’s your source? And please no more articles on how great Quinn is. We really know his value watching the Cleveland games: completion, completion, pass rush, interception, completion, sack, fumble, completion, completion, tip near interception, punt. Did I leave anything out?

  81. cuzz4169 says: Aug 22, 2011 11:23 PM

    Please someone tell me where Fox has said Brady Quinn is the #2 Qb?! Tebow first week of preseason was #2 Quinn was #2 this week. Now this upcoming week Tebow will be #2 they will rotate. No one has said either one of them are the #2 QB and who cares really!

  82. normswifevera says: Aug 22, 2011 11:32 PM

    John Elway has turned this situation into a total abortion. No offense, Tim.

    They were all set to trade Orton and go ahead with Tebow as their starter. And if he sucks, hey, at least they might have a shot at Luck next year.

    Now they’re rolling with Orton in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they can win 6 games this year. Which puts them well out of the Luck race.

    In the process, they’ve all but publically neutered Tebow, telling the whole world that he’s not even good enough to beat out Brady Quinn as a backup.

    Tebow has no future in Denver. The Broncos have no future with Orton. And what happens after the season when Orton’s contract is up? Do they re-sign him because they have no other choice?

    And their fan base is revolting because the team is turning on the supposed savior.

    Well done, Elway. Well done.

  83. dirtdawg55 says: Aug 22, 2011 11:37 PM

    For all of you comparing Tebow to Rodgers and Young may I remind you those guys played behind Hall of Famers in Favre and Montana. Tebow is playing behind no one who should stop him from being the starter if he really was starter worthy.

    As for not playing him because he was the last guy’s guy? Well Switzer had no problems with Aikman, Tomlin had no issues with Big Ben, Shanahan had no problems with Elway, Caldwell had no issues with Manning … Need I go on? The issue isn’t Tebow is the last guy’s “guy”. The issue is he isn’t any good. If he could play, he would. It is that simple.

    Tebow is a great athlete. But so was Bruce Jenner. Neither of them are great NFL QBs.

  84. stanklepoot says: Aug 22, 2011 11:42 PM

    shaggytoodle says: Aug 22, 2011 9:26 PM

    I think he should retire, come back get traded to the Jets, retire then go to the Raiders to stick it to Denver.
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    I don’t think the Broncos would be so worried about Tebow that they’d add a multiple 1st round pick penalty should the Jets decide to trade him to the Raiders.

  85. jsratx says: Aug 22, 2011 11:43 PM

    Jersey sales don’t translate into NFL accuracy.

    The kid can’t play QB, yet.

    Not sure why anyone is surprised at this.

  86. malonezo says: Aug 22, 2011 11:46 PM

    what a terrific waste of a first round draft pick

  87. thermalito says: Aug 22, 2011 11:49 PM

    I know all the white christian mythologists can’t accept it but Tim Tebow is simply not an NFL QB and will be out of football within 3 years.

  88. pandebailey says: Aug 22, 2011 11:50 PM

    This is crazy – what the Bronco’s need is to start the QB who was an amazing runner and team leader in college and who led his team to a national title – that’s right, Eric Crouch from Nebraska!

    The only difference is that Husker fans were smart enough to know from Day 1 that Crouch wasn’t an NFL QB…..McDaniels and Bronco fans are still figuring that out about Tim Tebow.

  89. ch8878 says: Aug 22, 2011 11:51 PM

    The Broncos are a bunch of idiots

  90. mthomashoover says: Aug 22, 2011 11:51 PM

    I feel for Tim.

    The kid is a good guy…that’s undisputed. He’s not harassing waitresses, pining for his own reality show, shooting himself in the leg, going to strip clubs, sippin’ Purple Drank, getting a DUI, raping girls in bathrooms, or whatever other idiotic, immature crap he could be doing.

    He has a strong work ethic and a great attitude. He’s a football player who knows how to win. But his skills aren’t up to NFL readiness. EVERYONE knew that. So why is no one willing to give him the benefit of the doubt of a few years’ worth of coaching and getting better before calling him a bust?

    Two reasons:

    1. He’s a Christian. It’s cool to hate Christians in this day & age.

    2. He was REALLY good in college, and everyone who was jealous of him loves to see that he’s now not succeeding. Hope you losers feel better about yourself.

    Both just show signs of an awful society.

    Keep workin’ hard, Tim. Lots of people have your back, and we hope you succeed.

  91. stanklepoot says: Aug 22, 2011 11:54 PM

    I find all of this quite ironic. I’m neither a Browns fan nor a University of Texas fan, but I remember getting irritated that Tebow’s draft stock kept getting pushed up due to his “intangibles” while everyone ignored the fact that McCoy’s intangibles were every bit as good. Both are high character guys with great work ethics, but McCoy actually won more games at the collegiate level and had a much better completion percentage. Despite that fact, McCoy was dismissed by the media and dropped to the 3rd round (and would have dropped further if not for Holmgren), and the media came down with Tebow fever and he ended up going in the first round. Now, Tebow is struggling and may end up 3rd on the depth chart, and McCoy has taken over the starting spot and seems to have improved quite a bit. Good for Colt. I love it when the guy the media tries to ignore refuses to fade away.

  92. hendeeze says: Aug 23, 2011 12:06 AM

    There is always a willing trade partner for has beens and never was. They are called the Bengals

  93. bensstinkyfingers says: Aug 23, 2011 12:15 AM

    Pittsburgh needs to sign him as a mentor to that deviant ridden cesspool of a team.

  94. stanklepoot says: Aug 23, 2011 12:20 AM

    chobes68 says: Aug 22, 2011 10:24 PM

    While I’m def no Tebow fanboy. The idea of letting him go this soon is absurd. He obviously has a strong work ethic, and played pretty well at the end of the year last season. IMO, you need to give a player 3 years to see if he’s got a shot before you move a rookie.
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    Ideally yes, but there are some problems in this case. Tebow was the pet project of the former coach/FO, and they were run out of town for messing up the team. Since Tebow was drafted in the first round before they changed the rookie pay scale, each year they keep Tebow will cost the Broncos a nice chunk of money and represent a noticeable cap hit. Now it appears that the coaching staff and FO view him as the third best QB on the roster, only there’s a segment of the fanbase that is quite zealous in its love for Tebow. All of these factors make it burdensome to keep Tebow as the Broncos’ 3rd string QB. He either needs to be the starter or clear heir apparent, or they need to get him out of Denver to calm the situation and solidify their roster. Btw, that’s what Hodge was trying to get at. It’s not a good idea to keep Tebow and demote him to 3rd string. If he’s nothing more than 3rd string, just cut your losses and move on.

  95. stanklepoot says: Aug 23, 2011 12:30 AM

    cuzz4169 says: Aug 22, 2011 11:23 PM

    Please someone tell me where Fox has said Brady Quinn is the #2 Qb?! Tebow first week of preseason was #2 Quinn was #2 this week. Now this upcoming week Tebow will be #2 they will rotate. No one has said either one of them are the #2 QB and who cares really!
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    Have to look at the practices as well. Quinn has taken over the majority of 2nd team reps, and even has been getting some 1st team reps. Tebow has been getting the leftover 2nd team reps and 3rd team reps. Official statement or not, Quinn clearly seems to be in line for the 2nd string spot at the moment.

  96. stixzidinia says: Aug 23, 2011 12:33 AM

    Safe to say Tebow’s trade value is nil.

  97. spanky5150 says: Aug 23, 2011 12:36 AM

    If the media is fair on Tebow, then we better here the “why isn’t Terrelle Pryor starting” talk by week 6, correct?

  98. stixzidinia says: Aug 23, 2011 12:37 AM

    Can you imagine if the Packers traded Rodgers as quick as some people want to run off Tebow? OR if the 49ers had traded off Young…

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    Bad comparisons. Both Young and Rodgers hit the ground running from the very beginning at the NFL level when they got their chance.

  99. upperdecker19 says: Aug 23, 2011 12:45 AM

    Would it be considered sacreligous to suggest trading him for Jesus himself…….and an apostle to be named later?

  100. dafranchize says: Aug 23, 2011 12:46 AM

    What people forget is that the Buffalo Bills and the New England Patriots were going to select Tebow either by moving up to get him or to select him at the top of the 2nd.

    Denver just got there first. I’m not defending Denver or Josh McDaniels but plenty of people but his beliefs, good looks and awe shucks attitude. Hell, the loved it. Denver just happened to get stuck with him.

    He’s a bust, anyone that doesn’t see that is trying to believe he’s something he’s not. I understand a project at QB takes a year or two, but to look as inept and completely lost out there absolutely destroys the confidence of the coaching staff, and that would be any coaching staff.

    His first preseason game of the year was as if he were in some park playing football with his buddies. Running around with no direction, throwing the ball past the line of scrimmage and looking like he doesn’t know what he’s doing. I mean he ran on a 3rd and 16 on his own 20. Sorry but in the NFL the QB never tucks it and runs from is own 20 on 3rd and long. It’s an easy way to either get hurt, get hit and fumble or get tackled for a loss. A real QB, a professional throws it away and plays it safe. That’s just how the NFL is played. Consistency is king in the NFL and Tebow might just be the most inconsistent NFL QB of all time.

    The experiment is over, sure he’ll get picked up after they release him at the end of the season but he’ll play some backup role some where and eventually get tired of being a nobody in the NFL.

    The NFL is a different game, and don’t worry Terrelle Pryor will find that out, as will Can Newton and Jake Locker. College football is played against future gym teachers, physical therapist, real estate agents and insurance sales man. 99% of the players in college will never see an NFL practice field let alone start for an NFL team.

    So big deal, Tim Tebow will go down as one of the greatest college players of all time. That’s more than most will ever accomplish. That’s definitely something he should be proud of as well as his fans.

  101. vomitingliberals says: Aug 23, 2011 12:47 AM

    Who the heck is Merril Hoge to be bagging on anybody’s potential to maintain a career in the NFL!? Hodge has the same number of Super Bowl Rings that Tim Tebow does last time I checked. In fact, both Tim Tebow and Merril Hoge have been to the same number of Pro Bowls as well… ZERO.

    Hoge was never better than “servicable” himself. If John Elway or another former QB in the media unaffiliated with the Denver Broncos (Like a Dan Marino or Steve Young) goes public and says that Tim Tebow absolutely cannot play in the NFL, then that might carry some real weight, but Merril Hoge? Really? LOL!

    Tebow needs TIME. I understand that his being drafted in round one mandates that he should be ready now, but that decision falls on the shoulders of Josh McDaniels. Develope Tebow, roll with Orton for a year or two more, and then make a decision. Simple.

    Ignore idiots like Hoge.

  102. orangeinmyblood says: Aug 23, 2011 12:52 AM

    Where is Bubby when you need him….

  103. nflcommissioner says: Aug 23, 2011 12:57 AM

    Denver fans need to go ahead and trade John Fox. Take it from a Panther fan.

  104. wingkong80 says: Aug 23, 2011 1:18 AM

    tinopuno says:
    Aug 22, 2011 10:10 PM
    broncobourque says: Aug 22, 2011 9:37 PM

    Can you imagine if the Packers traded Rodgers as quick as some people want to run off Tebow? OR if the 49ers had traded off Young…

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    Um….Young was actually traded to the 49ers, so yeah I can imagine a team trading Young early in his years.

  105. mrclaytonbigsby says: Aug 23, 2011 1:34 AM

    Technically, Orton, Quinn and Tebow are all McDaniel’s “guys”.

  106. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Aug 23, 2011 2:14 AM

    ratbastardshanahandjob says:
    Aug 22, 2011 10:19 PM

    Try a position you might make it at. Fullback…..

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    Or H-back or TE, any of which would make use of his athleticism he has…

    He will never be a successful starting QB in the NFL…

    And please don’t tell me about all of his college accolades and accomplishments because those don’t mean isht at the next level….

  107. lance19 says: Aug 23, 2011 2:26 AM

    “He is going nowhere.”

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    You’re right, but not the way you intended.

  108. mello10 says: Aug 23, 2011 3:58 AM

    Tebow & a pick to the dream team for Kafka

  109. stopthehate15bowdown says: Aug 23, 2011 5:10 AM

    I would prefer to see Tebow start. But I have no problem with Orton being the starter this year. But this madness about him being 3rd string and trading or cutting him has got to STOP!!! Tebow has more value to the team than the other two combined! 1. Tebow is still the best red zone threat we got (Mcgahee a close second though). 2. Tebow is the only qb under contract next year. 3. Tebow is a second-year 1st round draft pick. If you put all three on the trading block does any one really think that Tebow wouldn’t get the best price? Miami wouldn’t even give up a 4th rounder for Orton!

  110. bleedblue18 says: Aug 23, 2011 5:44 AM

    Tebow is not getting released, Chris Mortensen reported Tebow was paid a 6.5 million roster bonus last week. No NFL team would ever pay a player 6.5 million dollars and just up and release them a week later.

  111. akulabug says: Aug 23, 2011 6:16 AM

    I think this story is proof that they need to move him. No team can function under this distraction in the locker room.

  112. stonedwhitetrash says: Aug 23, 2011 7:28 AM

    It was much easier to get rid of McDaniel than Tebow. The powers that be at the Broncos should have been aware that McDaniels love affair with little Timmie was just that love.

  113. jacunn2000 says: Aug 23, 2011 7:31 AM

    Someone on this thread calledOrton “Elite”. I am starting to question humanity now.

  114. stugie says: Aug 23, 2011 8:02 AM

    Right now he is listed as number 2 on the depth chart

    http://www.denverbroncos.com/team/depth-chart.html

    How then could he have dropped to the bottom?

  115. essentialsausage says: Aug 23, 2011 8:11 AM

    In the end, this is simply another example of the reality that a new head coach wants his own guy at quarterback. Tebow was the last guy’s guy, which makes the new guy naturally less inclined to keep him around, absent a reason to believe that Tebow is the real deal.
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    Oh PLEASE! Tebow is low on the depth chart because he isn’t as good as the other QB’s on the roster, not because the coaches are biased against him.

  116. purnellmeagrejr says: Aug 23, 2011 8:35 AM

    Not a Denver follower but from the outside looking in McDaniels seemed like a catastrophic coach.

  117. pigeonpea says: Aug 23, 2011 8:42 AM

    whatswiththehate says:
    It seems every year these sports guys choose a QB, they want the public to believe is the “All American QB” groomed to take the place of Peyton and Tom Bardy. Then they also pick the QB they want the public to join them in over analyzing the picking apart. These are the QBs whose career will be over before it get started. They will not be given much of a chance because these sports guru have them pegged as “projects.” Last year it was Tim Tebow. This year it’s Cam.

    100% correct. Next year, it’s Andrew Luck.

  118. thefiesty1 says: Aug 23, 2011 8:58 AM

    RELEASE!! He can then go on a retreat to help some underprivileged country.

  119. rollerino1 says: Aug 23, 2011 9:14 AM

    There was an earthquake in Colorado near the New Mexico border this a.m.; God’s warning the Broncs that they had better try a little harder with Tebow……..or that next quake will be underneath Mile High Stadium!

  120. opie333 says: Aug 23, 2011 9:30 AM

    I love it the PFT guys love to get the Tebow’ers fired up! I think if I was going to demote him to 3rd string. I would think about trading him to get some help on the defensive side of the ball. Release him C’mon man that ant going to happen! I would trade for him just for the Jersey sales!

  121. iplaybad says: Aug 23, 2011 12:29 PM

    @stugie — the team’s online depth chart has clearly not been updated.

    1. LenDale White has been released, though he appears on their RB chart.

    2. Julius Thomas is listed behind Richard Quinn. If you’ve watched any game, that’s definitely not the case.

  122. Broncofanatic7 says: Aug 23, 2011 12:48 PM

    Literally every post on here is speculation.
    Why don’t we WAIT and SEE what he can do. Instead of being like a bunch of Merril Hoge’s we can see if Tim Tebow can actually play.
    He is not 3rd string. If people actually pay attention to Denver sports news, John Fox said that decision won’t be made until after pre-season. He was 3rd string for this last preseason game.
    I for one have this belief that Tim Tebow is going to succeed in the NFL and become a champion someday.
    But as I said before I will wait and see. Just give him a chance to get acclimated to the NFL game and he will find a way to win. That’s just what the dude does, find a way to reach the goal.
    Go Broncos

  123. MichaelEdits says: Aug 27, 2011 1:13 PM

    Just don’t bring in Delhomme. I’m from North Carolina, and I’d cry for you Fox if you brought in Delhomme.

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