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Report: No further discipline expected for Haynesworth

Albert Haynesworth AP

Commissioner Roger Goodell has said that he doesn’t want a third-party to be able to review his decisions under the personal conduct policy because he doesn’t want to entrust the NFL brand to an outsider.  Perhaps the more accurate assessment is that Goodell wants to be able to make decisions on a case-by-case basis, without concern for the kind of consistency that a quasi-judicial panel would attempt to weave into the broader process of assessing the accuracy of Goodell’s decisions.

Indeed, if consistency means anything, Patriots defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth would be at least suspended for pleading no contest to simple assault, given that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was suspended six games (reduced to four) despite never being arrested or charged with any crime, in his life.

Consistency, for now, means nothing.  According to ESPN, Haynesworth won’t be suspended.

Then again, it’s possible that the NFL has investigated the charges against Haynesworth, and that the NFL has concluded that he truly isn’t guilty.  Under the law of the jurisdiction where the alleged incident occurred, Haynesworth’s lawyer wasn’t going to get a chance to apply the Chewbacca defense on a jury.  Instead, the case was going to be tried to a judge.  Thus, even if the judge had barred from evidence the inflammatory things Haynesworth allegedly said to police or the allegations of an attempt to settle with the alleged victim, the person making the final decision as to innocence or guilt would have known about it.

That said, the prosecution’s case apparently had some holes.  In fact, we’ve heard that the authorities were surprised that a grand jury even indicted Haynesworth in the first place.

So if the league has utilized its security department to investigate the situation, the league possibly (key word:  possibly) has concluded that, despite Haynesworth’s past issues, there isn’t enough evidence to conclude that he did anything wrong in this case.

Finally, don’t discount the possibility that Haynesworth’s lawyers worked the back channels in order to get a feel for the theoretical impact of a no contest plea on Haynesworth’s employment.  Though the league routinely refuses to provide any official information regarding the potential consequences of the outcome of a case, it would be naive to assume that hypothetical discussions don’t happen — especially if there’s a way to handle a case in a manner that minimizes P.R. fallout.

Here, Hayneworth’s decision to cop a plea avoided several days of media coverage of a trial of a high-profile NFL player.  Given that personal conduct policy ultimately is aimed at protecting the shield, a player’s decision to handle his business in a way that advances that outcome should be welcomed by the league.

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  1. dayumyou says: Aug 23, 2011 11:10 AM

    This is such total and complete BS!!

  2. grpatriot says: Aug 23, 2011 11:13 AM

    Al do U have anything to say? “Go Patriots!” Gotta love it!
    Besides her hands were full. Where else could he put his CC?

  3. jacunn2000 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:13 AM

    He needs to room with Tim Tebow in the offseason.

  4. dolphinsrule65 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:14 AM

    If he was on any other team then the Patriots he would be suspended. Another favor for Bob Kraft-god of the NFL…

  5. packfannchitown says: Aug 23, 2011 11:14 AM

    Goodell: “Stay outta trouble next time Albert…”

    /punishment off

  6. rectumnearlykilledem says: Aug 23, 2011 11:15 AM

    Well it’s not like he raped a couple of women…that guy is in playing QB in Pittsburgh.

  7. Davo says: Aug 23, 2011 11:16 AM

    In the interest of fairness (and I know Steelers fans will vote this down with a venom), the crime Roethlisberger was accused of was *Rape* – pretty much the most despicable crime that can be committed (along with murder and child abuse). So, yeah, the situation is indeed different.

  8. medtxpack says: Aug 23, 2011 11:17 AM

    what kinda schmuck doesnt wear a tie to court?

  9. FinFan68 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:17 AM

    If there is a guy deserving of being banned, it is Haynesworth. Sure, this incident was not so eggregious as to warrant a ban, but he has had several issues on and off the field. Where is the disciplinary message? He ought to get some form of suspension and a warning about conduct detrimental to the image of the league.

  10. 2mannings1cup says: Aug 23, 2011 11:17 AM

    This isn’t right. I’m a Pats fan, and as excited as I am for a stellar pass-rush…he is not a Patriot. He represents the antithesis of what the Kraft family has built. I suppose this move comes as an act to repair a damaged soul, but this man disgusts me and does not deserve to be in the Patriots organization.

  11. scudbot says: Aug 23, 2011 11:17 AM

    20 laps around the field, washing Goodell’s car and an abject apology should finish this off.

  12. RDM says: Aug 23, 2011 11:18 AM

    This is just another thing for the rest of the NFL to hate on, from a Pats fan perspective. You couldn’t write a more interesting script thus far.

    ‘Go Patriots’.

  13. vdaigglesfan says: Aug 23, 2011 11:18 AM

    Great news. The patriots will certainly cut him. Cheesesteak vendors in Philly are giddy just thinking of Haynesworth coming.

  14. flakazoid says: Aug 23, 2011 11:19 AM

    How far does Robert Kraft have his nose up Goodell’s butt?

    Pretty far, I’d say.

  15. bullcharger says: Aug 23, 2011 11:19 AM

    The guy didn’t plead guilty, has a deferred sentence and it will be wiped from his record if he complies with the judges orders.

    It looks to me like he had a case but didn’t pursue it and took some lumps to make it go away quickly and quitely. I’m sure the Patriots and the league were involved in the decision to some extent.

    This is what the NFL wanted. It’s suddenly not news anymore and Haynesworth has to be a good boy to stay out of jail.

  16. deeboisgonnaeatyourkids says: Aug 23, 2011 11:19 AM

    If he played for the Steelers, he would have been fined and suspended.

  17. all4patriots says: Aug 23, 2011 11:20 AM

    It’s not that he didn’t do anything wrong, it’s just that what he did (apparently sticking a credit card in the cleavage of a waitress) doesn’t really constitute criminal behavior.

    Granted it is classless, he is a turd, and even most Patriots fans have a hard time feeling great about him wearing the Pats uniform.

  18. flagstaffphotos says: Aug 23, 2011 11:22 AM

    Haynesworth got the good old wink-wink-nod-nod justice that Goodell reserves for the Patriots.

    Smart decision to move to New England, big man.

  19. wvucolumbus says: Aug 23, 2011 11:23 AM

    This is not surprising news at all. The league clearly has its unique precedents/rules for the Steelers.

    How else do you explain suspending a person for 6 games without being charged or even arrested.

    It must irk the commish to no end to see the Steelers routinely play for hardware.

  20. fancyleague says: Aug 23, 2011 11:25 AM

    Yeah, northerner Ben supposedly raped a southern girl in a small southern town, yet the cops from that small southern town decided not to even arrest him. Happens all the time.

    Roger Goodell, this is why no one on the planet has an ounce of respect for you. If you want to “protect the shield” then you should make sure you are as many miles removed from “the shield” as possible.

  21. destroyedbydansnyder says: Aug 23, 2011 11:26 AM

    Wow. You have to now think its a Kraft influenced decision. Disgusting.

  22. joetorious says: Aug 23, 2011 11:27 AM

    @davo

    The key word is “accused.” Goodell has suspended players for up to an entire season for accusations alone. If he’s going to allow accusations to be the basis for suspensions of some players, he certainly has to allow admissions of guilt, no contest, et al, to serve as a basis for a multi-game suspension.

    Goodell is inconsistent. He is a D. And lest we forget, he’s ruining the NFL across the board.

  23. hinesward86 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:27 AM

    Davo says:
    Aug 23, 2011 11:16 AM
    In the interest of fairness (and I know Steelers fans will vote this down with a venom), the crime Roethlisberger was accused of was *Rape* – pretty much the most despicable crime that can be committed (along with murder and child abuse). So, yeah, the situation is indeed different.

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    Key word: accused. I thought it was innocent until proven guilty in this country?

  24. portnoychunk says: Aug 23, 2011 11:27 AM

    Dolphinsrule6….oh yes, clearly the NFL has shown preferential treatment for the Pats. Quit whining because the Dolphins can’t field a decent team. James Harrison physically beat his girlfriend in 2008 and attended anger management. Guess what? The league didn’t suspend him either. I’m not saying Haynesworth is a good guy or I enjoy having him on the Pats, but quit moaning like a child.

  25. hinesward86 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:28 AM

    rectumnearlykilledem says:
    Aug 23, 2011 11:15 AM
    Well it’s not like he raped a couple of women…that guy is in playing QB in Pittsburgh.

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    Jealousy of our elite QB will get you nowhere, son.

  26. portnoychunk says: Aug 23, 2011 11:28 AM

    wvucolumbus: James Harrison – do some reading on his abuse record, and then tell me how hard Goodell is on the Steelers.

  27. nro1962 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:28 AM

    Glad you’ve dropped the collusion reference to Bob Kraft from yesterday’s post. Haynesworth has been a pig pretty much since he joined the league, but nothing he has done approaches the deliberate harm that was almost certainly committed by Rothlisberger in Georgia, regardless of the fact that women’s family chose not to press charges. I don’t understand why you think a jurist would apply the same sentence to such different harms, a notion that the NFL appears to rejected. In the end, this was a very smart move by Haynesworth.

  28. blastfurnaceknows says: Aug 23, 2011 11:28 AM

    Let’s see – the man who has been an NFL problem and embarrassment both on and off the field for years gets no suspension, despite this new assault conviction. Cedric Benson can drink & drive all he wants. Rey Maualuga can commit the same crime with underage girls in his car and nothing there either. Sure, this makes sense, if by “makes sense,” you mean makes the NFL look insanely idiotic, arbitrary and hypocritical. What a joke!

  29. melikefootball says: Aug 23, 2011 11:30 AM

    Just goes to show you that God-Del is all over the chart in his punishments and to whom he punishes. This guy pleated NO CONTEST I”M GUILITY with a crime against a women. Lets see we overly help to the point of recommending a place for a convicted felon, we suspend a QB not convicted to four games and nothing is done here. No wonder fans and players shake ther heads at the league office.

  30. hinesward86 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:30 AM

    portnoychunk says:
    Aug 23, 2011 11:28 AM
    wvucolumbus: James Harrison – do some reading on his abuse record, and then tell me how hard Goodell is on the Steelers.

    ————————-

    Look at Hayneworth’s track record.

  31. contract says: Aug 23, 2011 11:32 AM

    Goodell must have burned the evidence again. Goodell’s NFL is just another form of reality television. It’s less real than the WWE.

  32. dayumyou says: Aug 23, 2011 11:32 AM

    rectumnearlykilledem says:
    Aug 23, 2011 11:15 AM
    Well it’s not like he raped a couple of women…that guy is in playing QB in Pittsburgh.

    _______________________

    What the hell…speak english much???

  33. mike83ri says: Aug 23, 2011 11:35 AM

    Big Ben wasn’t suspended until after multiple events of the same nature reflected poorly on the league. Pacman Jones was suspended after multiple arrests without being found guilty of any crimes too, I don’t see you crying about how unfair that was to him.

    Get off your soap box, comparing different situations when arguing consistancy makes you sound like an idiot.

  34. Rhode Island Patriots Fan says: Aug 23, 2011 11:36 AM

    A PFT post entitled, “Haynesworth could be in hot water with the league” argued that Albert’s nolo plea to misdemeanor simple assault “should result in a significant punishment, if there’s any consistency or fairness in the Personal Conduct Policy.” Furthermore, the post went on to say that the Patriots “…possibly will move swiftly to cut him… .” While I do believe that a one-game suspension would have been appropriate here given Albert’s past, the suggestion that “significant punishment” by the league is warranted makes little sense. As to the suggestion that the Patriots should cut Albert for this particular offense, I’m reminded of WWII General McAuliffe’s response to the surrender ultimatum during the encirclement of Bastogne: “Nuts!” (Speaking of which, I’d give my right one to be a fly on the wall in the Steelers locker room to hear their reaction to the League’s decision not to punish a Patriot. LOL)

  35. kissbillsrings says: Aug 23, 2011 11:42 AM

    gotta say I agree with the outcome…total media hyped story…tring to make a mountain out of a mole hill….

    GO ALBERT & GO PATRIOTS!!!!

  36. rectumnearlykilledem says: Aug 23, 2011 11:42 AM

    Steeler fans must be the most naive bunch of children in America. And they wonder why America laughs at this bandwagon of a fan base…it’s just embarrassing. Big Ben raped at least two women. Read up and deal with it kids. Sorry, truth hurts.

  37. shageman13 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:44 AM

    That’s funny. I remember yesterday posting that Roethlisberger’s case is completely irrelevant compared to this one. Guess what. I was right. James Harrison and Phillip Merling were both arrested for battery, neither was found guilty, and neither had any league punishment.

    Now, I am surprised he got nothing. I figured a 2-4 game suspension was on the way. But that “he’ll be cut immediately” and “one-year suspension” talk was complete and utter BS.

  38. pleasantsurpriselefty says: Aug 23, 2011 11:44 AM

    From now on all malcontents should sign with the hooded one in NE for rehabilitation. When he leads the Pats to the Super Bowl both Goodel and BB will be vindicated in their judgment. Everyone deserves a chance to do it the Patriot Way and be saved. Eat your hearts out rest of the league!

  39. rabidbillsfan says: Aug 23, 2011 11:46 AM

    @medtxpack

    Dude, do you know how many stairs he climbed, and how long that hearing was! The man had to eat something. He must see a delicious looking morsel in that picture.

  40. nagaswan says: Aug 23, 2011 11:46 AM

    Kinda reminds me of some Rage Against the Machine lyrics

  41. kylecleric says: Aug 23, 2011 11:49 AM

    what haynesworth did doesn’t really constitute a crime.

  42. brianpat says: Aug 23, 2011 11:51 AM

    Listen to all the haters crying about the lack of suspension. Like it’s been pointed out, very good chance she’s was fishing for dollars and the offer she got from Al’s lawyer wasn’t enough.

    Hey, if a guy can beat his wife and only face a fine. Then you have a guy on the same team who’s accused of sexually assaulting two different woman and he get suspended for 4 games ?

    Now that some standards that teams has, as long as their one of the best at their position, good forbid we do anything about it !

    Yes Haters, Big Al will be on the line, playing his heart out. Al, you have anything to say ” Go Patriots “

  43. chatham10 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:55 AM

    I agree with some of the posts that Kraft’s name and team has a lot to do with this so it will be interesting to see what Goodell does with the StarCap players who are waiting to hear but it has been so long that three fourths of the guys charged are out of the league.

  44. dayumyou says: Aug 23, 2011 11:56 AM

    nro1962 says:
    Aug 23, 2011 11:28 AM
    Glad you’ve dropped the collusion reference to Bob Kraft from yesterday’s post. Haynesworth has been a pig pretty much since he joined the league, but nothing he has done approaches the deliberate harm that was almost certainly committed by Rothlisberger in Georgia, regardless of the fact that women’s family chose not to press charges. I don’t understand why you think a jurist would apply the same sentence to such different harms, a notion that the NFL appears to rejected. In the end, this was a very smart move by Haynesworth.

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    really…”deliberate harm”…..and um no…epic failure on your part..it was the DA who did not press charges…please get your facts straight before posting about something that you obviously know nothing about!!!

  45. joe6606 says: Aug 23, 2011 11:57 AM

    wow, no suspension..just as i guaranteed yesterday…

    could goodell be any more horrendous??

  46. ampats says: Aug 23, 2011 11:58 AM

    Great news.

    What s with all the hatred toward Bob Kraft? Had it not been for him and his sacrifice while his wife was dying we would still be talking about DeSmith/Goodell negoiations instead of the upcoming season.

    dolphin65 and other dolphin fans, please share with everybody on this site how critical/involvement the ringleader of the circus called the miami dlphins S Ross contributed toward the end of the lockout?

    Nothing, about sums up the miami ownership group

  47. jimmymcnultysbottleofjameson says: Aug 23, 2011 12:04 PM

    Little Ben is a rapist as sure as the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning. Haynesworth is filth as well but at a smaller level. Comparing minor sexual assault and rape are like comparing, well, Albert to Ben. Goodell really needs to get a clue though and find some kind of consistency. Does he even keep a record of the punishments he’s given? It’s all over the place.

  48. Patskrieg dot com says: Aug 23, 2011 12:04 PM

    So both the supposed “rumor” that Ochocinco was being cut, and your reasoning that the Pats were intentionally keeping Haynesworth off the field so they could cut him after he’d been dealt his imminent suspension were wrong?

    Got it. Thanks.

  49. marima07 says: Aug 23, 2011 12:05 PM

    There are huge differences between what Albert Haynesworth pleaded no contest to, and what Ben Roethlisberger was accused of (multiple times).

    If the accusers were being honest, Ben is a rapist while Albert is a gropist. Both athletes were very wrong, but one was involved in an ugly incident while the other a disturbing pattern of abuse.

  50. therealsmiley says: Aug 23, 2011 12:06 PM

    Funny to hear people defend Fat Albert. You’re standing behind the wrong guy. Hail!!

  51. medtxpack says: Aug 23, 2011 12:07 PM

    @ rabidbillsfan

    i have to agree! i think i saw like 4 stairs and possibly had to open at least 3 doors!

  52. lowleadman says: Aug 23, 2011 12:09 PM

    Let’s keep things in perspective folks. Yes you too Steeler and Jets fans.

    I am a Pats fan and think Albert is a turd, but Billy must believe that he will have value here in NE. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    However, as for Kraft getting preferential treatment, where was your owner when negotiations for a CBA were ongoing? We are playing football in no small part because of Robert Kraft. Seeing Jeff Saturday hug Kraft in an emotional moment said it all for me. Under the conditions that Kraft participated, with his wife ailing, went a long way to give me even more respect for the man. Some of you need to climb out of your mom’s cellar and grow up.

  53. flagstaffphotos says: Aug 23, 2011 12:13 PM

    Goodell is just signaling his adherence with a racist rule that courts across the country have implicitly followed for over two centuries – it isn’t a crime unless you did it to a white girl.

  54. cliverush says: Aug 23, 2011 12:16 PM

    Bob Kraft would not interfere with the NFL office. Although the team was treated very unfairly for obtaining film that any fan could have obtained with a camera, he took the punishment. He is able to recognize the need for an autocrat commish to keep order. Decisions have to be made right away due to the nature of the business. Sour grapes and complaining about the decisions of the league are a fans right. Making false accusations without evidence are not. Remember the fool Senator from Penn.

  55. n1murray says: Aug 23, 2011 12:25 PM

    The difference in my mind is that if this was any of us who committed these crimes we would be in jail for what Ben did and we would have only been kicked out of the restaurant for what Albert did.

  56. Steeler's Will says: Aug 23, 2011 12:32 PM

    Lotsa Haynesworth apologists on here today…yesterday Pats fans were OMG OUTRAGED! that vermin like him even dared to put on a Patriots uniform. Today? He gets a big welcome back hug from Krafty Bob and the Hoodie, as well as their legions of kool-aid drinkers.

  57. Steeler's Will says: Aug 23, 2011 12:37 PM

    Alturd Gropesworth for PATS MVP! A true redemption story.

  58. rajbais says: Aug 23, 2011 12:41 PM

    Goodell = Patriots’ lapdog!!!

    This is a disgrace!!!

  59. Steeler's Will says: Aug 23, 2011 12:41 PM

    It’s ok though, because Mr. Kraft singlehandedly saved football dontcha know.

  60. sojumaster says: Aug 23, 2011 12:50 PM

    Anyone can accuse anyone of anything, that is why have a legal system in place, except for the NFL and roger goodell.

  61. dcpatfan says: Aug 23, 2011 12:55 PM

    Good. Now all you whiners get ready for what really matters. X’s and O’s baby! Where we unleash Big Al & Big Vince in the belly and Ellis and Warren on the bookends. Sorry slobs, but don’t hate Us!

  62. titknocker says: Aug 23, 2011 12:57 PM

    I see a lot of pissed off people who I bet that their more pissed off that the Patriots got big Al for short money & will without a doubt be wreaking havoc on NFL quarterbacks all season, than they are about a lack of suspension/conviction etc. At the end of the day each and everyone of you would want this guy on your team.

    Go Patriots!

  63. The Grand Occident says: Aug 23, 2011 1:01 PM

    Ben is White and Albert is Black.

    Some people are more “equal” than others.

    Roger Goodell is horrible – he’s killing the NFL.

  64. kissbillsrings says: Aug 23, 2011 1:08 PM

    Albert has some issues to work through, nobody is denying that….but seriously, how many of you out there have been told by your waitress”My hands are full so just slip it in my shirt pocket”…SERIOUSLY…the guy has hands the size of plates & a lousy character rep already…sounds like a gold digger set up to me….that’s why nothing became of this….

    I’m not jusifying what he (allegedly) did but come on….she has to share some blame on this one….

    I’m very excited to have Albert here for the potential he can help the team but I am also nervous about him doing something really stupid too….I hope he pulls it together for his sake….time will tell….

    GO PATRIOTS, as Big Al would say….

  65. scudbot says: Aug 23, 2011 1:10 PM

    Haynesworth, who allegedly celebrated Goodell’s decision with two 20 piece buckets, was unavailable for comment but issued the following statement: “It’s too much stuff going on right now, too much stuff that doesn’t have anything to do with football going on. It’s just ridiculous. Let’s just concentrate on playing football, because this is what we’re paid to do, and win games. I hope it’s what everyone else wants, but it’s just all the other kid games that’s going on that’s making me sick. I’m sick about it.”

  66. ajknox88 says: Aug 23, 2011 1:13 PM

    And yet Pryor gets suspended for 5 games when he didn’t do anything illegal. Just violated some rules…. WOW!! Goodell is absolutely rediculous.

  67. kissbillsrings says: Aug 23, 2011 1:13 PM

    @titknocker: you nailed it!!!!

    Pats questionable D was the only thing that gave those guys hope…now all hope is lost!!!

  68. elmobad says: Aug 23, 2011 1:15 PM

    Ben… accused, not by the “victim” but by her sorority sisters.. (the girl actually wanted Ben to take her home to “finish” but Ben refused) This snub caused the accusation..

    never charged, never tried… six game supension..

    Keep it fair Godell

  69. jsrdc says: Aug 23, 2011 1:21 PM

    FatAl is still a dirty POS player, a serious non-professional, and is utlimately bad for the league and the game. The Pats got him cheap, and that could work out for them on the playing field.

    When it comes to quality human beings, Al is anything but that. I still think he will eventually crash and burn with the Pats with future off-the-field incidences, as it is too difficult to fix something broken this badly, even for Bill Belichick. See: Randy Moss.

    Had Fat Al not been a pro football player, he would have been in Jail and serving a just sentence. Instead, he gets off with a song and a dance, and WAY too much money in his pocket from his last team.

  70. scudbot says: Aug 23, 2011 1:24 PM

    titknocker says: “I bet that their more pissed off that the Patriots got big Al for short money & will without a doubt be wreaking havoc on NFL quarterbacks all season.” Right. Let me know when Haynesworth is ready to do something besides watch other players practice.

  71. dolphinsrule65 says: Aug 23, 2011 1:28 PM

    “ampats”
    What did Ross do, who knows, do you? Behind the scenes as the 2nd richest owner behind Paul Allen, I have no idea either. But lets review Bob Kraft…screwed the State of Connecticut, Voted to end the CBA, Voted to lock the players out….then comes riding in on his white horse as the saviour of the NFL.

  72. majmalphunktion says: Aug 23, 2011 1:34 PM

    Favoritism? Are you SERIOUS?
    Wait, I can go into any other Pats thread and see how many Spygate references? I bet that Bill B. article has him called the ‘most fined coach in NFL history’ or some such.

    Take that for your ‘fair’. Damn hypocrites around here.

    AH was accused of a misdemeanor. He got a pretty big fine by all accounts for a misdemeanor. He handled it like a man, and let it lie. Ben R. is a despicable human being. Forcing yourself on a woman is something you should know not to do like, from childhood. He got lucky he is not doing jail time since the stupid cops in that hick town were star enamored. There really is no comparison.
    I don’t think AH is a ‘nice guy’ but I don’t think he is in the same league as a rapist…or attempted rapist, or even alleged rapist.

  73. richm2256 says: Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM

    Don’t go assuming that every Patriot’s fan loves Haynesworth and is glad to have him….. most of us aren’t.

    We all know what a turd and POS he is, and are stunned that BB andKraft brought him here. While the jury is still out on whether he can – or WILL – still get it done, rest assured not many of us are proud to see that guy wearing Patriots colors, even if he goes Pro Bowl this year.

  74. jackfnburton says: Aug 23, 2011 1:52 PM

    …because disciplining Albert Haynesworth doesn’t work?

  75. Steeler's Will says: Aug 23, 2011 1:56 PM

    dcpatfan says:
    Aug 23, 2011 12:55 PM
    Good. Now all you whiners get ready for what really matters. X’s and O’s baby! Where we unleash Big Al & Big Vince in the belly and Ellis and Warren on the bookends. Sorry slobs, but don’t hate Us!
    ——————–
    Just WIN, Baby!!

  76. Steeler's Will says: Aug 23, 2011 2:11 PM

    majmalphunktion says:
    Aug 23, 2011 1:34 PM

    AH was accused of a misdemeanor. He got a pretty big fine by all accounts for a misdemeanor. He handled it like a man, and let it lie. Ben R. is a despicable human being. Forcing yourself on a woman is something you should know not to do like, from childhood. He got lucky he is not doing jail time since the stupid cops in that hick town were star enamored. There really is no comparison.
    I don’t think AH is a ‘nice guy’ but I don’t think he is in the same league as a rapist…or attempted rapist, or even alleged rapist.
    ———————–

    Albert’s just a bathroom stall away from being Ben. This “simple” assault could very easily have been charged as “sexual” assault if he wasn’t an NFL player. But keep on supporting your team. Just win baby!

  77. vahawker says: Aug 23, 2011 2:16 PM

    You actually used “discipline” and “Haynesworth” in the same sentence?

  78. kashonly says: Aug 23, 2011 2:18 PM

    Why do yall believe the accusations? When was the last time a sexual assault claim against an NFL player turned out to be true?

    Why do you think that French dude DSK had to go to jail and then house arrest killing his political career all because some trash maid thought she could make a couple bucks off him….like Roth’s Vegas chick….like Underwood’s Pros…..Irvin’s rape…Foster’s Assault…etc,etc,etc..duke lacrosse?

    This attitude that the athlete is always guilty….um…FACT: Men with money or power do not RAPE….they don’t have to, the poon is thrown their way.

    IMO….the NFLPA Policy concerning Rape/sexual assault: Tramp better have bruises, or the NFLPA will not sleep til she is either in jail or completely bankrupt and unemployed.

  79. peanutbutter&jelly says: Aug 23, 2011 2:56 PM

    i want to say first that i’m not a steeler fan nor a big ben fan but the facts are that he hasn’t been convicted of any crime so who are all of you that say he has raped anyone?where have you gotten the facts from ?what jury convicted him? were you there? come on people! if he were in fact guilty of such a horrible crime dont you think somthing would have been done? and i guess you feel that a drunk college girl or a woman that brags to her friends that she slept with ben could not possibly be gold diggers ? no way that dont happen to well paid pro football players no not a chance of that. the point is when people really do wrong then bash em for it stop forming your own ill informed opinions then spewing them over the internet the web would be a much better place

  80. Deb says: Aug 23, 2011 3:29 PM

    According to the letter Goodell sent Roethlisberger, NFL Security found nothing to contradict the investigative findings in Milledgeville, which resulted in no charges or arrest. You have no reason to infer Roethlisberger was suspended because the league considered him guilty, so you have no reason to infer Haynesworth is getting a pass because the league considers him innocent. He’s getting a pass because Goodell is hypocritical in administering these issues–as you have pointed out in other columns.

    Roethlisberger was well-known to the masses and Goodell wanted to show the public the NFL doesn’t tolerate bad boys. He wasted a season investigating Favre’s two-year-old flirtation–on which no complaint had even been filed–for the same reason. He won’t suspend Haynesworth because the average person never heard of him–and Goodell wants to keep it that way. Same reason he didn’t suspend Brandon Underwood for his hooker misadventures. It’s all about PR with the commish. Right and wrong are irrelevant.

  81. Deb says: Aug 23, 2011 3:47 PM

    Just skimmed the comments. Goodell’s decision didn’t have anything to with Bob Kraft or the Patriots. He’d have made the same call if Haynesworth were still with the Redskins.

    This isn’t about the team or the seriousness of the allegation. It’s about public perception. Roethlisberger took the hit because he’s a star QB. An objective review of the evidence supports his innocence–but he brought the suspension on himself by failing to recognize a man in his position can’t act like an idiot in a college bar. Same with Favre. Guys at that level aren’t free to sext team employees.

    I despise Goodell and the way he does business. But I understand it.

  82. asthebeaver says: Aug 23, 2011 3:47 PM

    Must be because of the NFL’s credit card “tuck rule.”

  83. jackericsson says: Aug 23, 2011 5:35 PM

    Consistency and Goodell should never be used in the same sentence!

  84. mornelithe says: Aug 23, 2011 7:13 PM

    Innocent until proven guilty? Apparently not to raving NFL fans.

  85. citizenstrange says: Aug 24, 2011 5:24 PM

    Goodell has zero credibility.

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