Getty ImagesThe StarCaps case finally is moving closer to a conclusion. And though Vikings defensive tackle Kevin Williams‘ legal challenge to his four-game suspension ultimately failed, Brian Murphy of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that Williams likely will face a reduced suspension, eventually.
Per the report, the StarCaps situation remains an “unresolved bargaining chip” in the negotiations between the NFL and NFLPA regarding the new drug testing policy. Murphy also reports that the two sides met Tuesday with the World Anti-Doping Agency in Montreal to review the specifics of an HGH testing program.
Because the new policy possibly will utilize only a two-game suspension for players who test positive for diuretics, and because StarCaps contained a banned diuretic, Kevin Williams, free-agent Pat Williams, and Saints defensive end Will Smith would see their suspensions cut in half.
Murphy reports that the suspensions likely won’t be implemented for Week One, which means that Kevin Williams (if healthy) will be playing against the Chargers in San Diego, and that Smith will be playing against the Packers at Lambeau Field.
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Couldn’t come at a better time for the Vikes. Fat Pat is gone and Kevin Williams will probably miss the first two games due to his injury anyway…
Brett Farve is still retired.
I wonder if those guys could just do week 1 if wanted. Kevin needs time to heal his foot anyway.
Total BS! They need to serve the suspension that was in place when they broke the rules just like all the other players that broke them.
What a joke… The NFL still has not done anything about star caps, and I am supposed to believe that they will take HGH testing seriously…
so what about the players who decided to serve they’re suspensions instead of fighting it? are any left in the nfl?
Weren’t they suspended like 18 years ago?
Starcaps, Steroids, Miami Hurricanes, Jim Tressel.
Rank in order of who gives a crap….and GO!
They should just drop these suspensions. Be better for the Packers if they didn’t but if you review the case and what went on just let it go. If they get busted again make this still count as a strike against them but the suspension shouldn’t have to be served anymore.
Who Cares? Let them cheat all they want. It doesn’t matter, they’ve never won the Super Bowl and all the cheating in the world won’t ever change that.
You gals could bring NFL legends back from the dead and you’d still have no chance of beating the Superbowl XLV Champion Packers. Go Pack Go!
this just doesnt wanna go away does it?
Who Cares what Carl Gersbchmidt says?
What are they gonna do about Clay Matthews HGH use?
So, bucky and Carl,
It really IS all about the Packers. I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Their Collective Holiness Shines Upon Thee. Vince loves you. Now, off to Lambeau Study, like good little boys.
This week’s Packer Study is ‘centered’ on Bart Starr, Archangel. I expect that you’ve removed the chapter on that devil Hornung, correct? There is no place in Packer Paradaise for that devil Hornung.
Sit the cheaters down! Gotta make it sting. Paul Hargis is an idiot.
@ Carl Gersbchmidt Do you even watch football? Pretty sure will smith has a superbowl ring!!!!
I know I perform better when I poop more regularly, so it could be argued that this is a performance enhancing drug… gotta ask tho- did they maybe just eat too much cheese?
I don’t think the suspension will be implemented until after Kevin Williams retires.
Cheating is what the Saints did Carl & the refs let it happen. Ask anyone but a Saints fan.
Stupid post.
way to wait until the players involved were irrelevant before making them serve suspensions…
And in more recent news …….. Moses has crossed the Red Sea!
@cameran0804 -
Yes, he does. Thanks to the vikes, so I’m actually okay with that.
vikesfansteve says:Aug 23, 2011 9:22 PM
Cheating is what the Saints did Carl & the refs let it happen. Ask anyone but a Saints fan.
Stupid post.
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You’re right, that is a stupid post.
I never get tired of vikes whining about the refs. Yes, some calls went the Saints way, but I think Chilly and Naufahu “what are you doing out here?” Tahi (well, or some offensive coach) also had a lot to do with it!
claymatthewsisonsteroids
Dude you really that worried about the claymaker ending your pathetic QBs season, you had to come up with that clever username? Jockin for real
Too bad they didn’t have to serve their suspensions before the “Williams wall” turned into the “Williams soggy dry wall”.
I gotta admit though Kevin and Pat Williams were a force that one year…literally…one year.
Thing that sucks about this is that Williams was diagnosed with plantar fascitis (screw off I can’t spell it I’m not an MD).
So he could probably benefit most by having the first two games off. NFL will see this and likely push the date back as far as possible until he’s healthy.
txtuff says:
Aug 23, 2011 6:22 PM
Total BS! They need to serve the suspension that was in place when they broke the rules just like all the other players that broke them.
You do know that some players were caught with the same diuretic before all the above said players and didn’t get suspended. That was one of the issues during the court case. Get informed before you shoot your mouth
green18blue52 says:
Aug 23, 2011 10:21 PM
claymatthewsisonsteroids
Dude you really that worried about the claymaker ending your pathetic QBs season, you had to come up with that clever username? Jockin for real
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Ahh yes. 6-1 165lbs to 6-3 255lbs playing weight. All at the ripe developing age of 21. The wonders of a good diet and excercise. Clay…you give us all hope. GET REAL.
mikemccarthyisfat says: Aug 23, 2011 11:23 PM
Ahh yes. 6-1 165lbs to 6-3 255lbs playing weight. All at the ripe developing age of 21. The wonders of a good diet and excercise. Clay…you give us all hope. GET REAL.
so steroids make you grow in height?
cleonslamminsalmon says:
Aug 23, 2011 10:38 PM
Too bad they didn’t have to serve their suspensions before the “Williams wall” turned into the “Williams soggy dry wall”.
I gotta admit though Kevin and Pat Williams were a force that one year…literally…one year.
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One year? Your football ignorance is on full display. The Vikings, with K Williams & P Williams anchoring the defense, lead the NFL in rushing defense for three straight years (2006, 2007, 2008 – a league record mind you) and was second in the league in 2009.
None of these players should be suspended.
The NFL knew that Starcaps illegally contained beumentide, an illegal and banned substance. They didn’t tell the players about it for years, putting their livelihoods and health at risk. Then they selectively targeted a handful of players on small market teams, guys with good reputations, like the Williams duo, Deuce McAllister, ect, and used it as a tool for the upcoming negotiation with the union. That is unsavory and immoral actions by any standard. They even went so far as to tell the players it was safe to take when they called the NFL hotline for which supplements are safe to take.
Carl Gersbchmidt says:
Aug 23, 2011 10:16 PM
vikesfansteve says:Aug 23, 2011 9:22 PM
Cheating is what the Saints did Carl & the refs let it happen. Ask anyone but a Saints fan.
Stupid post.
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You’re right, that is a stupid post.
I never get tired of vikes whining about the refs. Yes, some calls went the Saints way, but I think Chilly and Naufahu “what are you doing out here?” Tahi (well, or some offensive coach) also had a lot to do with it!
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Yeah, Packer fans never whine about the refs. I never heard a word about the facemask penalty that wasn’t called when A-Rodg kicked the ball away in OT against Arizona. I’m sure your twitter page never had a picture of that play with “FACEMASK!” written all over it.
truthserum4u says:
Aug 24, 2011 3:43 AM
cleonslamminsalmon says:
Aug 23, 2011 10:38 PM
Too bad they didn’t have to serve their suspensions before the “Williams wall” turned into the “Williams soggy dry wall”.
I gotta admit though Kevin and Pat Williams were a force that one year…literally…one year.
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One year? Your football ignorance is on full display. The Vikings, with K Williams & P Williams anchoring the defense, lead the NFL in rushing defense for three straight years (2006, 2007, 2008 – a league record mind you) and was second in the league in 2009.
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I actually don’t care. That’s a cute little stat though. Too bad they didn’t win anything as a team….Because, you know…that’s what really matters.