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Reinfeldt says he’s “not sure” progress was made with Chris Johnson

Mike Reinfeldt AP

Titans G.M. Mike Reinfeldt met Wednesday with Titans running back Chris Johnson and agent Joel Segal.  After the meeting, Reinfeldt expressed both pessimism and optimism.

“I’m not sure there was any progress made, but I do think it was beneficial to meet,” Reinfeldt said, according to the Associated Press.  “We were able to discuss several different elements of a potential contract, but there was no agreement on those topics.  I do expect to have another conversation with Joel in the next day or so to discuss things further.”

So while the meeting may have laid the foundation for future talks, the bottom line is that there’s been no change to the bottom line.

And so, while Johnson tweeted on Tuesday that things will get “better or worst,” it appears for now that the answer is neither.

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52 Responses to “Reinfeldt says he’s “not sure” progress was made with Chris Johnson”
  1. medtxpack says: Aug 24, 2011 4:21 PM

    meanwhile CJ is still preparing his future twitter post with his Slyvan learning center rep…

  2. alaricsrevenge says: Aug 24, 2011 4:25 PM

    Translation:

    “We met with Chris and Joel, we laid out our parameters to begin the negotation process of a new contract to Chris. Chris then said what I think are words, quite a few hand gestures and then Chris and his agent left my office.. something about getting take-out.”

  3. facebook.com/joesimmonscomic AKA Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says: Aug 24, 2011 4:26 PM

    Hopefully for CJ things will get more better.

  4. beefer49 says: Aug 24, 2011 4:26 PM

    How come most people can’t even renegotiate their phone plan and athletes with time remaining can… It’s a farce… Or as CJ says its a fart.

  5. lildon96 says: Aug 24, 2011 4:26 PM

    “not sure” = “I couldn’t understand Mushmouth Johnson”

  6. alaricsrevenge says: Aug 24, 2011 4:27 PM

    CJ2K speaks 1337

  7. willyalistentothis says: Aug 24, 2011 4:29 PM

    If Johnson does not sign soon, Bud Adams is going to track him down and shoot him the bird.

  8. hobartbaker says: Aug 24, 2011 4:30 PM

    Mike wasn’t sure if any progress was made. “They didn’t say anything, just laughed and rolled their eyes a lot…”.

  9. KIR says: Aug 24, 2011 4:32 PM

    Pay a running back who is the best in the NFL and HALF of your offense less than you pay backup and average quarterbacks. Outperform your contract shut up and play out the deal under perform your contract or get old. Club renegotiates your contract for less money or cuts you. Sounds fair to me.

  10. jfolland says: Aug 24, 2011 4:33 PM

    The CJ haters need some new material…I’m all for a little humor, but I think the topic his mastery (or lack thereof) of the english language has run its course….I’d be interested to see what people can come up with next…Probably the “godes up in his mouf”..yawn

  11. essentialsausage says: Aug 24, 2011 4:34 PM

    This is cool, maybe I’ll get to see Javon Ringer get a start.

  12. rayvens says: Aug 24, 2011 4:35 PM

    “I’m not sure there was any progress made, but I do think it was beneficial to meet,” Reinfeldt said,
    ——————————–
    Does that sentence contradict itself?

  13. vbe2 says: Aug 24, 2011 4:36 PM

    Progress would be telling the idiot player to go stuff himself and sit out then moving on as if without him. Let him come crawling in on his own or retire.

    If they break the bank for him he’ll just be out of the league in 3 years anyway.

  14. myspaceyourface says: Aug 24, 2011 4:37 PM

    I think he needs paid more. . .

    I also think he should show up since he is still under contract. . .

  15. medtxpack says: Aug 24, 2011 4:37 PM

    @jfolland

    Hey CJ, quit having your white friends write posts for you and posting them in articles about yourself, troll!!

    …godes up in his mouf…

  16. trollaikman8 says: Aug 24, 2011 4:38 PM

    Wouldn’t it be great is CJ-bonics was just his front and behind closed doors he spoke like Richard Dawkins?

    Full British accent and all.

  17. buddycianci says: Aug 24, 2011 4:39 PM

    Chris Johnson has a vacancy in his skull.

  18. firerogergoodell says: Aug 24, 2011 4:40 PM

    They are offering him the highest paid RB contract, and that’s still not enough? He’s not even the best RB in the league! Adrian Peterson is. And it’s not even close. If anyone deserves that contract, it’s him.

  19. sullijo1 says: Aug 24, 2011 4:41 PM

    Another fine product of our great public schools…..I say give all his former teachers the raise they deserve!

  20. destroyedbydansnyder says: Aug 24, 2011 4:45 PM

    Well Chris Johnsons text is clearer to understand than his voice.

  21. eaglesnoles05 says: Aug 24, 2011 4:47 PM

    Not sure progress was made? What gave it away, him leaving and not playing football?

  22. tdl8 says: Aug 24, 2011 4:47 PM

    I guess TN didn’t offer to pay to get rest of CJ’s nasty grill gold plated so he walked out!

    CJ is an over rated uneducated MORON! One lucky season and 2 mediocre seasons and he thinks he deserves QB money even though he has the football IQ and team leadership skills of a 3 year old monkey!

    Hey CJ, TN offered to make you the highest paid RB in the league even though you can’t even speak English! Be happy with that you greedy idiot!

  23. KIR says: Aug 24, 2011 4:52 PM

    The argument is that he won’t last long. Fine! Give him a short term contract of three years. To expect him to perform as one of the best players in the league, the best running back and receive pay that is less than back up and average quarterbacks is ridiculous.

    The clowns who are complaining about his vocabulary need to contact the college that admitted him and obviously enjoyed and received rewards while having him perform for free! You all are hypocrites and full of you know what.

  24. jfolland says: Aug 24, 2011 4:53 PM

    medtxpack says: Aug 24, 2011 4:37 PM

    @jfolland

    Hey CJ, quit having your white friends write posts for you and posting them in articles about yourself, troll!!

    …godes up in his mouf…

    ———

    See! This is what I’m talking about. I actually got a good laugh out of that post.

  25. firerogergoodell says: Aug 24, 2011 5:00 PM

    Adrian Peterson (in 4 seasons) has ROY, 4 Pro-Bowls, and 4 All-Pros… How is this an argument?

  26. WingT says: Aug 24, 2011 5:01 PM

    Chris Johnson is going to be paid $ 0 this year if he’s not careful.

  27. beefer49 says: Aug 24, 2011 5:01 PM

    Are CJ and Mike Tyson related?

  28. vtsquirm says: Aug 24, 2011 5:02 PM

    “How come most people can’t even renegotiate their phone plan and athletes with time remaining can… It’s a farce…”

    Its ok for owners to cut players who are scheduled to make more than they want to pay though?

  29. tennesseeoilers says: Aug 24, 2011 5:09 PM

    Chris Johnson’s dramatic drop-off the past 21 games aside, I can’t help but think the Titans last playoff outing is haunting their front office. After getting his wheels tweaked on a dirty play by the Ravens, CJ carried the ball twice more for 12 yards–and then, in the middle of that very close and pivotal game, he pulled himself out and never returned. I’ll never forget hearing Frank Wycheck on the radio immediately after that Titans’ last minute loss, saying Chris Johnson had better be seriously injured or it would not go over well in the locker room.

  30. drshakedown74 says: Aug 24, 2011 5:19 PM

    Be a man like #10 in Philly. Show up and do your job like the rest of the world homey.

  31. gothwolf says: Aug 24, 2011 5:20 PM

    @KIR

    Pay a running back who is the best in the NFL and HALF of your offense less than you pay backup and average quarterbacks. Outperform your contract shut up and play out the deal under perform your contract or get old. Club renegotiates your contract for less money or cuts you. Sounds fair to me.

    ———————————————–

    Here’s the thing. If Javon Ringer is their RB this year, guess what, he’s also going to be half their offense. And every team has an Arian Foster on the practice squad just waiting for a chance. Granted, CJ has unparalleled speed, but that only goes so far. He ran for 2,000 yards, but that was during a season when the Titans had nothing else going for them. The coaches and the line really wanted the accomplishment for CJ as much as he did. When they were competitive longer last year, he didn’t run for nearly as many yards. And without a good QB, with defenses keying on him, he’s going to get bottled up.

    Outplay your contract and deal with it? Yes. Just like the team owners have to deal with paying guys when they sit out all year because they tweaked a hammie. Take Deanglo money and be happy and secure, or play out your contract and prove your durability and really cash in after AP signs next year.

  32. drshakedown74 says: Aug 24, 2011 5:20 PM

    Ringer.

  33. davikes says: Aug 24, 2011 5:21 PM

    beefer49 and vtsquirm are on to something with the cell phone analogy. Perhaps football players should have early termination clauses in their contacts in which they would pay a fee to terminate the last year or two of a contract and become a free agent. It would help balance the inequity of the team being able to cut the player whenever they want. It would have to be negotiated up front.

    This would have worked out well for CJ, because the fee to terminate the next two years would be somewhat less than what he is due to earn. He could easily pay it with proceeds from the next contract. I’ve never heard of it in pro sports, but it’s everywhere in business contracts.

  34. gothwolf says: Aug 24, 2011 5:28 PM

    Its ok for owners to cut players who are scheduled to make more than they want to pay though?

    ———————————————

    A contract is really worth whatever the guaranteed money is.

    It’s part of the checks and balances to ensure performance. No player who is performing at the same level as when they signed their contract is going to be cut.

  35. mrvikingsfan11 says: Aug 24, 2011 5:37 PM

    Team should cut him, and show they don’t need the over rated RB, prove they can find a RB that can do what they need, which I may add they can. CJ your just not worth it bud and never will be an Adrian Peterson RB, so get over your self and get rid of that stupid grill.!!!!!!

  36. JAM says: Aug 24, 2011 5:39 PM

    PAY CHRIS JOHNSON. I’m appalled to think about the other one hit wonders and bums who have been handsomely paid before him. Larry Johnson, Willie Parker, and Ryan Grant come to mind. I once heard Mike Tomlin say ‘put it on film’ in regards to ‘Fast Willie’ getting another big contract. Well, Chris Johnson has put it on film and even came close to eclipsing the great Marshall Faulk’s yard from scrimmage record. He is clearly one of the best players in the NFL. I don’t want to hear the argument about ‘playing out your deal’ because everybody knows players are constantly holding out for more money and they usually get it…but not this guy and he’s one of the most deserving.

  37. prmpft says: Aug 24, 2011 5:45 PM

    …hold out buckwheat – i hope you never play another snap!!!

  38. plundergrunge says: Aug 24, 2011 5:48 PM

    The Buccaneers should be waiting to catch this guy if he becomes available.

  39. KIR says: Aug 24, 2011 6:04 PM

    @gothwolf

    Wrong! He is one of the best players in the NFL, total offense! An average back might touch the ball half of the time but he is not half of an offense. Secondly, durability has to due with luck as much as a players physical durability. Whether the team has a good quarterback or not directly effects the production of a back. Can you imagine how many yards this guy who have is his quarterback was top ten or as good as the Texans quarterback? Take half of the plays and wait for the contract to play out. No Thanks! This is his best chance to make big money. He was penalized because of his college career and has essentially played for free. It’s time to pay up.

  40. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 24, 2011 6:14 PM

    Isn’t he already under contract?

  41. asarabi says: Aug 24, 2011 6:22 PM

    A contract means nothing in the NFL. If owners can cut any player they want who’s “under contract” than a player “under contract” can choose to hold out and not play under that contract. Fair is fair. Deal.

  42. 28purple4mvp says: Aug 24, 2011 6:32 PM

    firerogergoodell says:
    Aug 24, 2011 5:00 PM
    Adrian Peterson (in 4 seasons) has ROY, 4 Pro-Bowls, and 4 All-Pros… How is this an argument?

    Forgot the pro bowl mvp in his rookie year too.

    AP>CJ Hands down!!!!!!!!

  43. flagstaffphotos says: Aug 24, 2011 6:45 PM

    Wow! A lot of racist hate directed at the guy because he spells a word funny and is not white.

    Got to wonder who is smarter – a multimillionaire who is holding out for $10′s of millions more, but mistakenly uses the word “worst” in place of the word “worse”…

    or

    … a bunch of wannabe English majors typing comments on the PFT website from the dialup computers in their mom’s basements.

    Did any of you bozos use your time productively today and go out and apply for a job???

  44. realdraftgm says: Aug 24, 2011 6:47 PM

    O.k. here is the deal. The numbers cannot be that far apart. The guaranteed money must be the issue. Let me explain. They already say Johnson will be the top paid running back in history. Peterson is making 10 million this year. The Johnson camp wants 13 million a year. So that is 3 million a year difference. Asamoga got 12 million a year. So lets match Asomaga as far as 12 million a year for the first three years. Here is the tricky part, you could guarantee the first three years at 12 million a piece. Or you could do a big signing bonus and do less per year. Either way with the new salary cap you have to pay a certain amount anyhow in contracts. If you do a top heavy contract with a bigger signing bonus then you can be more flexible with the cap in the future. Johnson just has to be told that if he is getting a 20-30 million signing bonus then his per year average will be lower and he will not be getting those numbers changed later. Or he could just take 12 million a year for the first three years fully guaranteed even if he is on injured reserve and get 36 million guaranteed. If he takes the 25 million signing bonus, then they could structure it at 4 a year for three years fully guaranteed. Does not matter how they do it he will end up with around 36 guaranteed. The fourth and fifth years can be team option for fourth year at 12 million and player option for fifth year at 12 million. In the end that is about 60 for five years. Not 13 but 12 a year. Honestly if the Titans are bickering about 11 million a year versus 12 then they are not smart; they are not selling tickets because fans want to see Chris Johnson and just like the stock market if the buyers are scared they do not buy so if Johnson is in place then buyer fear goes away and you sell out and do not get blacked out so in the end you are losing alot more money then just paying the man an extra million. Where is Floyd Reese when you need him. Maybe they are trying to be like Jacksonville and not sell out; Bud time to intervene and back Johnson because he is more important then your g.m.

  45. FinFan68 says: Aug 24, 2011 6:50 PM

    CJ is really getting bad advice or he’s not listening to good advice. The Titans have basically said what they are willing to pay him. (How anybody can argue #1 RB deal is bad/disrespectful is beyond me) He is sticking to his guns and harming his ability to be traded. I doubt another team is willing to pay him what he expects and still compensate the Titans what they would demand in a trade. Basically he is sitting on a shelf for now and the only realistic way to get back in the game before 2013 is to sign a short term deal with Tenn for less money than he wants. If not, he can sit out 2 years incurring $30K/day fines while his skills/value deteriorate. Good call CJ

  46. laeaglefan says: Aug 24, 2011 7:09 PM

    “And so, while Johnson tweeted on Tuesday that things will get “better or worst,” it appears for now that the answer is neither”

    It also appears that to no one’s surprise, Johnson did not get an “A” in his basic English 101 class.

  47. FinFan68 says: Aug 24, 2011 7:20 PM

    @realdraftgm: I do see a plausible scenario in that post but there is a major flaw…

    “Johnson just has to be told that if he is getting a 20-30 million signing bonus then his per year average will be lower and he will not be getting those numbers changed later.”

    That statement encourages another holdout in the future and CJ has proven he is more than willing to complain. They restructured some stuff last year didn’t they?

  48. scootypuffjunior says: Aug 24, 2011 8:03 PM

    @KIR

    Penalized for his college career?

    You seem to be unfamiliar with Chris Johnson’s college career, so let me inform you:

    -Over 1400 yards rushing his senior season
    -24 total TD’s his senior season
    -Racked up 408 total yards from scrimmage (an FBS bowl record) in his final game for ECU — a win over a very good Boise State team
    -Ran a 4.24 40 at the combine

    He was “penalized” by being picked 24th overall and given a 12 million dollar contract over five years. I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at — based on the caliber of opponents ECU faced, his accolades, and his performance at the combine, he was picked exactly where he should have been…and got 12 million dollars to play a game.

    Johnson is good — good enough to be paid amongst the best running backs…but high dollar — really high dollar players are quarterbacks — quarterbacks who win championships. Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Roethlisberger. You don’t win anymore without an elite quarterback, and NONE of those guys listed won with an elite running back, so remind me why this guy deserves so much money again?

  49. KIR says: Aug 24, 2011 8:07 PM

    @realdraftgm

    Peterson contract 5 years $40.5 million $17 million guaranteed.

    Chris Johnson contract 5 years $12 million $7 million guaranteed.

    To put that in perspective, the second leading rusher since 2008, Adrian Peterson (4,441 yards), $40.5 million. Leading rusher Chris Johnson (4,598 yards) 12 million

  50. KIR says: Aug 24, 2011 8:11 PM

    Can someone please explain to me why the Titian’s don’t want to pay this man?

    Adrian Peterson contract 5 years $40.5 million $17 million guaranteed.

    Chris Johnson contract 5 years $12 million $7 million guaranteed.

    To put that in perspective, the second leading rusher (4,441 yards) since 2008, Adrian Peterson, $40.5 million. Leading rusher (4,598 yards) since 2008 Chris Johnson $12 million.

  51. kcfanatic says: Aug 24, 2011 9:00 PM

    Chris Johnson is very good, but running backs have a short shelf life. I would use him up and spit him out. Find the next Chris Johnson, Larry Johnson, Priest Holmes, Clinton Portis. These guys were all explosive runners. Explosive runners hit a wall very fast. Save the money. Spend it on a good line, and you can get 4+ yards a carry with an above average back

  52. KIR says: Aug 25, 2011 7:15 AM

    Adrian Peterson the second leading rusher (4,441 yards) since 2008, contract 5 years $40.5 million $17 million guaranteed.

    Chris Johnson the Leading rusher (4,598 yards) since 2008. 5 years $12 million $7 million guaranteed.

    If Johnson comes back and gets hurt, his career and chance for a well deserved big payday as one of the best players in the NFL is over. He’s going into his 4th year and hasn’t even made12 mill. There are plenty of players and non QB’s making 12 million or more a year! Those who disagree and think he’s not worth it. Put your money where your mouth is. Don’t watch any of the games he plays in. :-)

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