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Ryan Grant took $1 million pay cut earlier this month

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MDS passed along the surprising news earlier Wednesday that Packers running back Ryan Grant is not a lock to make the team.  That news probably didn’t come as a huge shock to Grant.

Adam Caplan reports that Grant took a $1 million pay cut earlier this month.  His base salary dropped from $3.5 million to $2.5 million.  (His bonus money remains at the same total, although it’s unclear if the structure has changed.)

The question then becomes:  Does taking a pay cut make Grant’s job safe?

It has to help, but we doubt it guarantees anything.  When a veteran takes a pay cut early in camp, it’s usually a sign that the team is ready to move on, if necessary.  If Grant wasn’t willing to take the reduction, he would likely be an ex-Packer already.

Ultimately, this isn’t about money.  It’s about who G.M. Ted Thompson believes gives them the best chance to win a Super Bowl this year and into the future: Grant or Dimitri Nance.  (Or perhaps they could keep both.)

We have no idea how Grant has looked in camp coming off surgery, but he probably hasn’t blown the team away considering the two stories that surfaced Wednesday.

UPDATE: Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports Grant’s base salary is guaranteed.  That should just about guarantee his roster spot.

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36 Responses to “Ryan Grant took $1 million pay cut earlier this month”
  1. virger says: Aug 24, 2011 5:29 PM

    i just can’t see them cutting him after the RB struggles they had last year. but that front office knows what they’re doing so who knows.

  2. itsmammoth says: Aug 24, 2011 5:31 PM

    This is crazy. lol.

  3. KIR says: Aug 24, 2011 5:32 PM

    Outperform your contract shut up and play out the deal under perform your contract or get old. Club renegotiates your contract for less money or cuts you. Sounds fair to me.

  4. medtxpack says: Aug 24, 2011 5:33 PM

    Nance jsut worries me beyond anything else…

  5. scudbot says: Aug 24, 2011 5:33 PM

    Grant’s looked okay but doesn’t have the instincts of some of the others. Nance has looked good but he’s untested. Plus Starks and Green and FB Kuhn to push the pile. Like most positions, at RB the Pack’s pretty well stacked.

  6. castleofcheese says: Aug 24, 2011 5:39 PM

    If Grant gets cut, it will come back to bite the Packers in the ass.

  7. mvp43 says: Aug 24, 2011 5:40 PM

    I see both sides of the story, but Ted will make the best decision for the future of the team and if that means cutting ties with Grant then so be it. That’s what good GM’s do…….and Ted’s a good GM.

    Grant’s a decent player and a good guy from all I ‘ve seen so he’ll have no problem latching on with another team if need be. He did have major surgery don’t forget, and quite possibly may not even be able to take the bulk of the carries without risking further injuries as it is.

  8. ajknox88 says: Aug 24, 2011 5:42 PM

    TT is a good GM. I doubt they’ll release him though. With the potential for Grant to have another good season I don’t see why they would. Most people are going to be slow early on but really when you’re a perennial playoff team the middle/end of the season is what really counts, not so much the beginning. (Think Phillip Rivers)

  9. mataug says: Aug 24, 2011 5:42 PM

    what about Kuhnnnnnnnnn

    is he a fullback or running back ? I don’t even know that lol

  10. jevinaz says: Aug 24, 2011 5:45 PM

    Also reported by Bob McGinn (JSonline Packer insider) that Grant’s remaining 2.5 million is now guaranteed. Grant is a Green Bay Packer for 2011.

  11. minnesconsin says: Aug 24, 2011 5:46 PM

    Ultimately, this isn’t about money. It’s about who G.M. Ted Thompson gives them the best chance to win a Super Bowl this year and into the future: Grant or Dimitri Nance. (Or perhaps they could keep both.)

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    I think this is dead wrong. This is Thompson dealing from a position of strength. He has depth at RB for the first time since he’s been the GM in Green Bay. When Grant was holding out back in 2008, Thompson was in a position of weakness. The tables have turned a bit, and TT is playing his hand.

    It most certainly is not about Grant -vs- Nance, because anyone who has ever watched these two play knows Grant is the better player. If they do get rid of Grant and keep Nance, it would be Starks and Alex Green who benefit. Nance would end up being more of a Brandon Jackson type player, mostly 3rd downs, in that scenario.

  12. deelron says: Aug 24, 2011 5:49 PM

    Mothers don’t let your babies grow up to be running backs.

  13. thephantomstranger says: Aug 24, 2011 5:50 PM

    Grant has always been a mediocre running back. His numbers came from opportunity. Give him credit for taking advantage, but he probably isn’t worth the investment at this point coming off an injury. From what I hear, the Packers could plug Bryant McKinnie in at running back and still win the Super Bowl.

  14. berniemadoffsides says: Aug 24, 2011 5:50 PM

    He’ll get picked up instantly.

  15. iamgoodkid says: Aug 24, 2011 5:51 PM

    so whats it gonna be if i watch green bay and ryan grant play with their running game, so who is going to take me back home then because i have nothing to take me home

  16. thefiesty1 says: Aug 24, 2011 6:05 PM

    Tennessee needs a decent RB on the cheap since they are not going to pay what Johnson is asking. Grant did pretty well last year, but an injury may have messed up his mind.

  17. teal379 says: Aug 24, 2011 6:08 PM

    This basically means Nance is the most likely to go.

    RB’s as a valuable (high paid) part of the offense is waning. A stud, every down back simply isn’t necessary anymore. This IS a passing league and you don’t need to “protect” Aaron with a stout running game like you might a rookie or new QB. Aaron can throw and run an offense like the best of them. Grant knows this and he knew he was on the bubble – bad injury, older etc. He came to the team and did the cut. Made himself MORE valuable to the team because of it.

    It’s a win for the team – they get to keep the guy at a reduced rate who knows the offense and obviously is okay with taking less reps and it frees up another million to sign guys later this year to long term deals. Guys like Finely or Mathews.

  18. lionpride10 says: Aug 24, 2011 6:09 PM

    The lions should offer up a fifth round up for him.

  19. scudbot says: Aug 24, 2011 6:10 PM

    Grant is a high character guy who does not have a messed up mind. The Titans wouldn’t know what to do with him.

  20. teal379 says: Aug 24, 2011 6:12 PM

    thefiesty1 says:
    Aug 24, 2011 6:05 PM
    Tennessee needs a decent RB on the cheap since they are not going to pay what Johnson is asking. Grant did pretty well last year, but an injury may have messed up his mind.

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    Yeah – he was AWESOME in that one game where he had 8 carries. (it was a good game so far for him – 5.6 ypc but that included a long run of 18 yards so he was at 3.8 ypc without that)

    Hard to say with all honesty “he did pretty well last year” – he played 8 plays all year…..

  21. jevinaz says: Aug 24, 2011 6:13 PM

    The only way Grant is not in Green Bay this next season is if some team gets desperate and offer the Ted Thompson a trade he can’t refuse…

  22. darthvincent says: Aug 24, 2011 6:16 PM

    he took a pay-cut of 1 million to guarantee the 2.5 million — he isn’t being cut this year by the Packers

  23. TheDPR says: Aug 24, 2011 6:23 PM

    Nance? Really?

    This kind of thing is why I won’t pay for Gregg’s draft guide.

    If it isn’t Grant it will be Starks for the Packers. Nance is a role player.

  24. buckybadger says: Aug 24, 2011 6:40 PM

    You think they could make a trade. Not talking block buster or anything but maybe get another body for the DL or OLB.

  25. buckybadger says: Aug 24, 2011 6:41 PM

    @TheDPR, don’t be surprised if Green takes over. Better out of the back field and has better speed. The kid is made for the Packers offense.

  26. greenbaypeckers says: Aug 24, 2011 6:53 PM

    This is why guys never want to miss time, no wonder guys play through concussions, you’re only as good as you last play, the pack went on and won the superbowl. As a pack fan, I say they are crazy if they cut him, and I think if Arodg can stand up for james jones, no doubt he has for grant. They let their best blitz blocker bjax go, grant sticks around. Let me also add, while it’s nice to have 5 te and 5 rb’s, how about our lb’s….zombo gone for a while, so we have clay and walden, seriously, we should have looked at a couple more lb’s in the draft instead of 2 more rbs and te’s. we have a tough schedule, a running game is key, grant deserves the ball, and then alex green is next….dude has talent.

  27. thehouseofho says: Aug 24, 2011 7:07 PM

    As a Pack fan, I would like to see Grant stay on the team. He’s played hard since he was traded to GB from the Giants and has shown himself to be a good running back during that time.

    Not sure what’s going on in training camp, but I just can’t see Green or Nance being able to contribute the way Grant can, unless that ankle is still messing with him. Green and Starks have good straight line speed and they’re both pretty big, but Grant is bigger, faster and quicker than both of them. On paper it just doesn’t make sense.

  28. ScubaXsniper says: Aug 24, 2011 7:35 PM

    Grant or Nance? Starks has by far shown me the most thus far.

  29. welzy says: Aug 24, 2011 7:37 PM

    Grant has always been a mediocre running back. His numbers came from opportunity. Give him credit for taking advantage, but he probably isn’t worth the investment at this point coming off an injury. From what I hear, the Packers could plug Bryant McKinnie in at running back and still win the Super Bowl.
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    The “mediocre” running back you speak of had back-to-back seasons with over 1200 yards rushing in ’08 and ’09. According to NFL.com, in 2009, he had 1253 yards rushing for a 4.4 yd average with no fumbles. Just to put it in perspective, Adrian Peterson had 1383 yards for a 4.4 yd average with 6 LOST fumbles in 2009.

  30. jebsta16 says: Aug 24, 2011 7:58 PM

    The pay cut probably had more to do with him being injured all last year. It is also a possibility we have seen less of him because he already knows the offense and doesn’t need as many reps as say a Starks or Green would considering we didn’t resign on of the best third down backs in the game.

    I can’t see a reasonable scenario that Nance gets a spot over Grant. I would think they will see what Grant has to offer on Friday against the colts. His playing time in that game and performance could be the indicator that he will or will not make the team.

    I hope he doesn’t get cut, he is my favorite packer and very under rated, always has been.

  31. qdog112 says: Aug 24, 2011 8:04 PM

    Puzzling….

  32. stellarperformance says: Aug 24, 2011 8:17 PM

    It’s still a business. On scale of 1-100, if one guy is an 88 and is making $2.5M + bonus, and another guy is an 82 and only costs the team $525K, guess which guy becomes the “most improved player in camp?”

    Been nice knowing you Ryan. I’m sure you’ll do well somewhere else.

  33. teal379 says: Aug 24, 2011 8:22 PM

    thehouseofho says:
    Aug 24, 2011 7:07 PM

    Grant is bigger, faster and quicker than both of them.

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    Not to quibble but Grant is an inch shorter than Starks and ran his combine 40 all of .07 seconds faster. Considering Grant’s a bit older NOW than he was THEN – Starks probably beats him in a foot race rather easily these days.

    Grant also came into the league a whole 4 lbs heavier than Starks – pretty much a wash.

  34. n8fullahate says: Aug 24, 2011 9:31 PM

    We shall see. Let them battle for the roster spot.

    They are the champs

  35. badfish6907 says: Aug 24, 2011 9:45 PM

    I can’t see them keeping Nance over Grant. I can’t see them keeping Nance over Green actually.

  36. transam7816 says: Aug 24, 2011 10:21 PM

    I think they did this move to possibly make grant prove that he deserves another contract. Possibly for another 2-3 years

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