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Andy Dalton outshines Cam Newton

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For one insignificant little preseason game, Cincinnati’s much-maligned rookie quarterback Andy Dalton out-played the No. 1 overall pick of the 2011 draft.

Dalton, the third pick of the second round, completed 11-of-17 passes for 130 yards and touchdown against Carolina in one half of work. Cincinnati’s dominant running game made life easy on Dalton, who actually misfired on a few long throws to A.J. Green or the numbers would have been much better in a 24-13 win for the Bengals.

Green was the best rookie in this game. He destroyed Panthers cornerback Chris Gamble repeatedly, catching two passes for 45 yards and a score. He had Gamble beat two other times deep but Dalton couldn’t hit him.  Green also had a 11-yard run.

For the third straight game, Cam Newton looked raw and intriguing.  The numbers weren’t pretty: 6-for-19 for 76 yards through the air.  But Newton has avoided a turnover in all three of his outings and he showed off his legs Thursday.

Newton rushed four times for 49 yards, including a 16-yard score where he ran over a Bengals defender. That capped an impressive opening touchdown drive.  His protection failed him for the rest of the night and Newton could only escape so often.  Newton was erratic when he did get protection.

Ready or not, the next time Dalton and Newton play this much will be in Week One.

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58 Responses to “Andy Dalton outshines Cam Newton”
  1. bdert says: Aug 25, 2011 10:06 PM

    When Cam develops…He’ll be the Roethlis/Freeman Type…

  2. edmazeing1 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:08 PM

    Still preseason!!!

  3. suckleague says: Aug 25, 2011 10:10 PM

    Enjoy senior Dalton, you can’t play Carolina every week.

  4. tampajoey says: Aug 25, 2011 10:11 PM

    Exciting. Nice seeing the beginning of the NFL’s next era of QBs.

  5. raider23mike says: Aug 25, 2011 10:12 PM

    People Don’t hate the Raiders…

    they hate Al Davis..

    FACT!!

  6. melikefootball says: Aug 25, 2011 10:12 PM

    Just watched NC game and the home announcers are all over how good Newton is, he keeps his eyes down the field. Except he could not throw to the receivers.

  7. thesmartest1 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:12 PM

    No surprises here…

  8. staffordsyear says: Aug 25, 2011 10:14 PM

    I know its just preseason but from what I’ve seein and reading it looks like newtons gonna have a looong year.

  9. kingmj4891 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:14 PM

    Newton = Bust

    Panthers should have taken that DT.

  10. r66x says: Aug 25, 2011 10:14 PM

    Much maligned? He’s played 6 quarters of NFL football…..give the guy a break. Dalton will be a decent quarterback. He may not be the athlete Newton is, but he’ll do ok.

  11. Spencer says: Aug 25, 2011 10:15 PM

    Dalton had a good game. Newton looked rough, not “intriguing”, and he has a long, long way to go to develop as a passer.

  12. rgwhodey says: Aug 25, 2011 10:15 PM

    Love the hate from the folks of pft… No matter how good dalton looks you seem to find ways to put him down… One little insignificant preseason game.. really aren’t they all insignificant or just this one because dalton looked the part of a starting qb? Keep hating

    Whodey for life

  13. longhornpride05 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:16 PM

    is anyone actually surprised by this? i for one am not… newton is another jamarcus russell

  14. pudgalvin says: Aug 25, 2011 10:16 PM

    I’ve always kind of liked the Bengals, but how are they not doing anything about Carson Palmer? They’re doing absolutely nothing about the situation. You’re franchise cornerback tells you ‘trade me or I’m retiring’ and you do absolutely nothing.

    They’re obviously willing to go all in with Dalton, so they must think he’s the QB of the future, so how did they not trade Carson Palmer? I get the you don’t want to give in angle, but enough’s enough. The Vikings, Cardinals, Niners, Seahawks, Dolphins, and Raiders all probably would have at least considered giving them a decent package for him, but there he sits doing nothing for your team either on the field or for building for your future. Simply stunning.

  15. reachmylevel says: Aug 25, 2011 10:18 PM

    Third week of preseason means we are on the home stretch towards the good stuff….Opening day here we come!

  16. rgwhodey says: Aug 25, 2011 10:25 PM

    Instead of talking about his misses how about talking about his 107 passer rating you were pretty quick to call him out on his passer ratings of the last 2 games… Don’t want anyone thinking he might be an all right qb do we..

  17. contraryguy says: Aug 25, 2011 10:28 PM

    well, one ‘misfire’ was a protested catch that was called back. Splitting hairs on that one.

    The whole offense has a new OC with a new system to learn; if Dalton can keep the picks to a minimum (and they can run Benson 35 times a game), he’ll do OK.

  18. contraryguy says: Aug 25, 2011 10:29 PM

    oh and Green is 100% legit and highlight-ready. Chad is already forgotten in Cincy.

  19. panther21384 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:33 PM

    So disappointing.

  20. whatswiththehate says: Aug 25, 2011 10:34 PM

    “But Newton has avoided a turnover in all three of his outings and he showed off his legs Thursday” And his only two sacks came in the first game.

    I don’t expect you folks at PFT to write the truth about Cam but let’s be real…The Panthers offense sucks.

    For as much over reacting is being made about Cam’s throwing after three games, the kid has yet to get intercepted.
    When it comes to Blaine, his inaccurate throws are blamed on his receivers…Go figure.

  21. thefiesty1 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:36 PM

    Of course he’s better than Cam. He’s just stuck on a terrible, cheap team. TCU would have beaten Auburn just like they did Wisconsin.

  22. whatswiththehate says: Aug 25, 2011 10:37 PM

    longhornpride05 says:Aug 25, 2011 10:16 PM

    is anyone actually surprised by this? i for one am not… newton is another jamarcus russell
    —————–
    Yep, cause they all look alike right?

  23. damnyoulinelliot says: Aug 25, 2011 10:39 PM

    Ginger!!!

  24. buddybowl69 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:44 PM

    The Redskins’s 1st stringers could beat the Bengals & Panthers 3rd stringers. Hail…

  25. mwcarolina says: Aug 25, 2011 10:46 PM

    Cam Newton didnt look bad passing, but he didnt look good, he was on and off again. he did show off his running today. he has to improve by being more consistant.

  26. wonderboy18 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:48 PM

    Hmmmmm Cam newton is the right handed Tim tebow

  27. djp141 says: Aug 25, 2011 10:54 PM

    Cam didn’t look good, but the Panther’s defense looked much, much worse.

  28. thespeaker08 says: Aug 25, 2011 11:04 PM

    Highest Passer Ratings this Pre Season:

    Colt McCoy
    Mike Kafka (who?)
    Richard Bartel (who?)
    Brady Quinn
    Charlite Whitehurts
    Matt Moore
    Greg McElroy
    Rex Grossman

    Need I say more?

  29. bangbangbilly says: Aug 25, 2011 11:06 PM

    Game of the WEAK

  30. lostsok says: Aug 25, 2011 11:08 PM

    Dalton is the kind of QB that plays just good enough that he can hold a job here and there, but any team that starts him is going to spend the next 1-however many year trying to replace him.

    He’s smart, he runs well, and he’s accurate, but he does NOT have an NFL arm. Sorry.

    I like Cam Newton about as much as I like toe fungus…but he’s still a way, way better prospect that Dalton.

  31. green18blue52 says: Aug 25, 2011 11:42 PM

    Hey Cecil, ill give you 180k if cam will play for Carolina so they can get Andrew Luck next year.

  32. donbaseball says: Aug 25, 2011 11:53 PM

    losts….

    That’s what they said about Drew Brees, you arse.

  33. jpietrefesa says: Aug 25, 2011 11:56 PM

    Just watch the tape from this game and its plain and clear that Newton can’t hit the back side of a barn. The guy can only complete it 5 yards down field. 100% bust ill guarantee it, can we say Vince Young. Ive never seen such inaccurate throws from and NFL quarterback. The Panthers could have taken Dareus and signed Brad Smith to be their QB.

  34. tjacks7 says: Aug 26, 2011 12:02 AM

    I’m gonna make lots of money this season betting on the panthers to lose every week.

  35. rockngoodtime says: Aug 26, 2011 12:07 AM

    raider23mike says:
    Aug 25, 2011 10:12 PM
    People Don’t hate the Raiders…

    they hate Al Davis..

    FACT!!

    ————————————————–
    Al Davis is an idiot, and so are quite a few of the Raiders fans that attend the games. I’ve been to many Raiders games, in both LA and Oakland, and they’re the same. Drunk and beligerant, starting fights with each other, and particularly with rival fans. I’ve never seen that kind of behaviour at any other stadium.

  36. ilovefoolsball says: Aug 26, 2011 1:00 AM

    His daddy only taught him how to run.

  37. ch8878 says: Aug 26, 2011 1:03 AM

    Cam Newton will be out played by Terrelle Pryor, by the end of the season

  38. phelbin says: Aug 26, 2011 1:07 AM

    raider23mike says:
    Aug 25, 2011 10:12 PM

    People Don’t hate the Raiders…

    they hate Al Davis..

    FACT!!

    – – – – – – – – – –

    Not so, Raider23mike. Al Davis could give the team to me, and I’d still hate the Raiders!

    But more than anything we hate Raiderfan. Somehow you thought it was appropriate to post a comment about Al Davis and the Raiders on an article that had nothing to do with them. Typical Raiderfan. (shaking head)

  39. phelbin says: Aug 26, 2011 1:13 AM

    Oh, and I forgot to mention…within two years, Cam Newton will be known as the poor man’s Vince Young.

  40. bigfootballfan says: Aug 26, 2011 1:25 AM

    Greg, Wow! You must have lost money on this game.

  41. thekidmd1234 says: Aug 26, 2011 2:02 AM

    Went to game. Dalton looked ok but still needs work. Cam looked terrible as did the Panthers D. Ouch! AJ is legit. Enjoyed $60 worth of grub and drinks courtesy of Mike Brown as they sent out fan loyalty cards for renewing season tickets. Club seat food not bad.

  42. alan3008 says: Aug 26, 2011 2:08 AM

    Looks like Dalton is going to make us quickly forget about Carson the whiner Palmer. LOL.

  43. alan3008 says: Aug 26, 2011 2:10 AM

    lostsok,
    “I like Cam Newton about as much as I like toe fungus…but he’s still a way, way better prospect that Dalton.”
    _____________

    What a bunch of BS.

  44. rozz513 says: Aug 26, 2011 2:35 AM

    It’s true that Cam didn’t throw an interception, but if you watched the game, the throws he missed were so bad that they weren’t going to be caught by anyone. The only thing intriguing about Cam is his legs. The kid can run, but I don’t see him ever being a great QB.

  45. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Aug 26, 2011 3:26 AM

    whatswiththehate says:
    Aug 25, 2011 10:37 PM
    longhornpride05 says:Aug 25, 2011 10:16 PM

    is anyone actually surprised by this? i for one am not… newton is another jamarcus russell
    —————–
    Yep, cause they all look alike right?

    ——————————-

    As a general principle, they do…

    Not sure what it is about over-rated college QB who will never amount to isht in the NFL but they are not hard to spot….

    They typically went to SEC schools, were thieves and won the Heisman…

  46. beelicker says: Aug 26, 2011 6:18 AM

    >>> suckleague says: Enjoy senior (sic?) Dalton, you can’t play Carolina every week. <<>> pudgalvin says: You’re(sic) franchise cornerback(sic) tells you ‘trade me or I’m retiring’ and you do absolutely nothing. <<<

    Garcon Palmiere is subject to $30K fine/day for not reporting if he tries to $$$trongarm his way back in/force the issue (as countless lemmings here have suggested) before the final 53 cut, and then probably at the expense of l'il boo's Jordy's roster spot (#4QB Dan "Beng" LeFevour has looked like PS material to date).

    He could also only have been traded for future 2012 draft picks in any eventuality (due to labor situation), so explain just what's the danged hair-on-fire rush to "do something" at all costs right eeee-now??

    Come the same 53 day, there might even be the potential of some sort of blockbuster mega-player deal pending from some brand new regime desirous of a wholesale housecleaning featuring actual live & viable NFL bodies in exchange of such historic magnitude for #9 as not yet imagined in the modern NFL (to be fair, it wouldn't take much).

    Not to even mention Mr Michael F Brown is a Harvard Lawyer. He also played QB in the Ivy League (Dartmouth '57) , so another popular notion he somehow completely "just doesn't understand football" also seems peculiarly mis/uninformed. He also was the only NFL owner who presciently(?) voted (with sound mind at least, i.e. Ralph Wilson) against the last – some would say 'flawed' – CBA agreement .

    Thus he's also likely WAY smarter than you, especially in the twin arenas of "negotiations" & "leverage".

    4-0/Shock The World/Make My Whodey!

  47. cbass59 says: Aug 26, 2011 6:22 AM

    Maybe Cam’s dad can get some money out of this.

  48. beelicker says: Aug 26, 2011 6:23 AM

    Ooops, somehow my response (above) to the suckleague quote disappeared, so here it is:

    ummm OK but how about @CLE/@DEN/SF/BUF the 1st 4? How about 4 new rookie HCs with (almost completely) new coordinators/schemes on both sides of the ball?

    I’ve been humbly projecting via cold hard factual analysis the strong potential for a 4-0 start for My Preciousss tissue paper tigers since before camp & all you have to do is check out pbsjungle dotcom (noncommercial-affiliated domain where i be aka C Hamet Benengali).

    who dey/all dey/every dey

  49. beelicker says: Aug 26, 2011 6:32 AM

    Sorry, oooops again.

    Fox in Denver is not a rookie HC. Rookie GM though inheriting already talent-poor base having just withstood failed rookie HC regime’s customary personnel purge. Particular weakness DL vs vet Bengal OL & Benson

    My Precious is nowhere near #32 in the league. There is a tier between the NE/GB/PIT echelon and the starting-over-from square 1 crowd & the Cincinnati Harlequin Warriors are in it.

    That is all.

  50. steeelfann says: Aug 26, 2011 7:14 AM

    Sir tall Cam, they name is Kordell.

  51. einstein30184 says: Aug 26, 2011 7:23 AM

    I think Newton will do fine if they get the system to fit him, and have him coached up. No off season work outs have been to the defenses benefit with these rookies.
    Here in Atlanta we heard the same things ad nauseum regarding ” Terrible O-line”, and “sub par receiving corp”. The year after the Petrino .5+ era ended, and all of the sudden our O-line was one to be admired. Same guys. I’m not an expert, but 1 of our O-line men stated that with Vicks mobility and the zone blocking scheme, they had to constantly look over their shoulders to detect where they should move the pocket.
    The Jamarcus Russell comments are just lazy, as was J-marc. Cam had a father who was too involved in his life, and like all young kids going to college faltered a bit when he wasn’t looking at times, so cecil took the approach he deemed to be in Cams best interest at times. Do you really want a Kid leading your team that had an awful upbringing? No father involvement?
    I think he wants to succeed. I’m not saying that is enough, but it is a good start, but what do I know, I’m just a tool with a keyboard.

  52. bingocostello says: Aug 26, 2011 8:06 AM

    Shocker, why wasn’t Cam Newton the best thing since sliced bread? why the LIBERAL sportswriters deemed him better than, Baugh,Unitas,Manning,Montana etc. This slug is another bust without a brain!

  53. pskotte says: Aug 26, 2011 8:08 AM

    Chad who?

  54. 12strikes says: Aug 26, 2011 8:38 AM

    Week 1: “Kevin Kolb outshines Cam Newton”
    Week 2: “Aaron Rodgers Schools Cam Newton”
    Week 3: “Blaine Gabbert Over Cam Newton”
    Week 4: “Jimmy Clausen Sees action in 2nd Half”
    During Week “Ron Rivera says Cam is starter”
    Week 5: “Newton-bomb, 3 interception”
    During Week: “Jimmy Clausen takes reps with first team”
    Week 6: “Clause Starts Cam Sits”
    April 2012 “Panthers select Andew Luck, Stanford with the first overall pick”
    Next Day: “Panters trade Cam Newton to Raiders”

  55. jmat40 says: Aug 26, 2011 9:34 AM

    Andy Dalton is an elite quarterback. /sarcasm

  56. beelicker says: Aug 26, 2011 10:38 AM

    >>>jmat40 says: Andy Dalton is an elite quarterback. /sarcasm<<<

    Well now that's certainly a clueless reach at this juncture that I don't think anyone is saying anywhere but what I will say here is that in the toughest situation that a rook QB will likely find himself starting from Day 1 with an NFL franchise (without standard benefit of rookie/minicamps, offseason program & OTAs & with 1st year new rookie OC) he just might prove himself to be one damned precocious NFL QB savant!

    It's like how Belichick & Brady were portrayed in re the beginning of his career as being as of one mind & thinking each other's thoughts & completing each others sentences as though via Vulcan mindmeld or something.

    That's how JG/AD appears to me (I go to camp lots & have season tix on the 40 in the 3rd row upper deck catbird seats) and that team has become fully united behind their nonflapppable young field general in the vacuuminous void left in the wake of the mysterious withdrawal of zee French Foreign Lesionnaire QB Garcon Palmierre …

    Go ahead punks, d'ya feel luckyyyy?? … Well do ya? … Make My Whodey!/Dreaming the Impossible Dream since '68

  57. trickbunny says: Aug 26, 2011 11:39 AM

    Love it. Ginger has one non-pathetic performance and Bengal fans are are packing their coolers for the Super Bowl.

  58. granadafan says: Aug 26, 2011 11:49 AM

    “thekidmd1234 says:
    Aug 26, 2011 2:02 AM
    Went to game. Dalton looked ok but still needs work. Cam looked terrible as did the Panthers D. Ouch! AJ is legit. Enjoyed $60 worth of grub and drinks courtesy of Mike Brown as they sent out fan loyalty cards for renewing season tickets. Club seat food not bad.
    ——————————————————————————————-

    $60?? I hope you enjoyed that one pretzel and a beer.

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