Getty ImagesAfter the lockout ended a month ago today, first-round picks quickly began to sign contracts. One source said that, thanks to the new rookie wage scale, the deals could be done in five minutes.
On Monday, the Raiders made quarterback Terrelle Pryor a third-round pick in the supplemental draft. And five minutes have passed many times over without a contract for Pryor being finalized.
Last we heard, the ball was in the team’s court. As of right now, we’re told that the two sides are still working on it. Either way, it makes no sense for a guy who already got a late start to continue to miss valuable time with his new team.
We like a lot of what the new-look Raiders have been doing lately. The inexplicable delay in getting Pryor into the fold is something better suited to the bumbling Silver and Black tendencies that disappeared (we thought) in 2010.
The only reason for any delay would be Pryor wanting to get more than than the rookie wage scale warrants. His agent always thought he was a 1st rd pick.
Pryor wants 3 tattoos, Raiders want to give him 2: one guaranteed, one in escalators.
Rosenhaus
Maybe he is holding out for more money than he got at Ohio St. he doesnt want to take a pay cut like all the SEC players.
They let Asomugha and Miller walk, overpay for guys like Wimbley, Routt, and Huff, and you like what the Raiders have been doing lately?
Camp closes Friday and after that no outsides have access to practices…They are saving the kid from some embarrassing growing pains…all part of Mr. Burns master plan
cmich2006 nails it.
Given the wage scale, the fights haven’t been about the size of the dollars, they’ve been about guarantees and length. Given that Pryor is going to be a project, I’d bet Rosenhaus is trying his damnedest to get a long guarantee.
Time’s a-wastin’. The kid only has about a week of practice left before his suspension starts. The Raiders would probably like to see him in pads before he takes his suspension, and Rosenhaus is probably banking on that and hoping that he can squeeze better guarantees out of the Raiders as a result.
Same reason why Desean Jackson’s contract situation will extend unnecessarily longer than it needs to. Rosenhaus will most likely want Fitzgerald-like money for Desean when in reality he’s worth Santonio Holmes money (which is not an insult). So what should we expect Mr. Rosenhaus to ask for Pryor? Manning Money?
He’s just trying to make sure he doesn’t wind up taking a pay cut from his OSU days.
“Either way, it makes no sense for a guy who already got a late start to continue to miss valuable time with his new team.”
Uhhh, he can’t practice with the team until after his suspension. Thought for sure you guys knew this. Just trying to stir the pot I suppose…
Maybe the Senile One forgot he drafted the miscreant?
giselleisasucubus says:
Aug 25, 2011 10:59 AM
Maybe he is holding out for more money than he got at Ohio St. he doesnt want to take a pay cut like all the SEC players.
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Well said!
It’s not like is going to be playing in 2011, let them take their time with the contract.
It’s just mind-boggling that after everything that’s already happened with this jerk, that they finally let him in (when they didn’t have to) and now he’s holding out?
/facepalm
Mike, do the research first.
Vittorio Tafur wrote about this yesterday. His report was that the Raiders are not bringing him in to camp (signing him to a contract) until after they are done in Napa. Starting Monday they will be back in Alameda and practicing in private again and away from reporters and fans. Tafur says the Raiders want him to practice in private. Probably because they dont want others to see how they will utilize him (and because they dont want the media scrutinizing his every throw).
Anyway, this is reportedly why they have waited. Look it up. … Why am I doing your job for you?!?!
Maybe he really is on some court somewhere and literally heaved a ball onto the other side, waiting for the Raiders to show up and play……
Stop reaching this stories pointless if you can’t add new info
ESPN
“The embattled former Ohio State quarterback has been through too much red tape already. It’s time for him to move on and concentrate on his NFL career.
This means Pryor will not be eligible to join Oakland’s active 53-man roster until Oct. 10, the day after the fifth game of the season. He can’t practice during his suspension, but he can work with coaches on his own during the suspension.
When Pryor comes off the suspension list, the Raiders will have to make a decision on how many quarterbacks they will carry. Trent Edwards and Kyle Boller are expected to be the backups to Jason Campbell when the season starts. Perhaps Oakland will keep all four quarterbacks when Pryor is eligible to play. ”
They are making sure they have enough depth at QB for the first 5 weeks. Signing him now would cost them a spot at QB, with no eligible playing time until week 6. It’s a smart move to wait.
Won’t be in until after camp breaks Friday so Raiders can work him out in private, when practices are closed
First it’s a stretch to draft him and now it’s a “bumbling ” in delaying the signing? It seems to me that all of the Raider draft picks were signed on time this year.
So, we’re supposed to give him JaBustus money (probably what his agent is demanding) or be viewed by you as “bumbling”?
Make up your mind.
So just what will 5 days of camp prove with this guy on the roster? He’s gone until week 6 anyway.
“We like a lot of what the new-look Raiders have been doing lately. The inexplicable delay in getting Pryor into the fold is something better suited to the bumbling Silver and Black tendencies that disappeared (we thought) in 2010.”
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Mike, you got a serious mancrush on Pryor or something. Maybe you have personal stock invested in him. Idk. But, this doesn’t matter.
It doesn’t matter when he signs or when he reports. Do you really think he is going to contribute this year anyway?? He has never even seen an NFL Playbook. It’s gonna take time. If he is ready to start by even next year’s opener it will be a shock. This year is a wash. No way he sees the field this year… at least at QB.
Missing 3 days of practice is not going to make or break this kids career. But you act like it is going to.
Yea sign him asap since he playing sept 12 right, come on calm down ppl!!!
They are making sure they have enough depth at QB for the first 5 weeks. Signing him now would cost them a spot at QB, with no eligible playing time until week 6. It’s a smart move to wait.
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This is not a smart move to wait, using the 3rd QB spot. If they don’t sign TP, he will come in completely lost and the first full year will be a total wash. Given the NCAA/NFL suspension, he is out for five games anyway. How may 3rd string QB’s ever get to play in the regular season? It’s kind of like having a third PG in the NBA, you know that person will not see the court.
“The inexplicable delay in getting Pryor into the fold is something better suited to the bumbling Silver and Black tendencies that disappeared (we thought) in 2010.”
The inexplicable delay in getting Richard Seymour into the fold is something better suited to the bumbling Silver and Black tendencies that disappeared (we thought) in 2002.
Yawn….
The buzz here is that they are waiting for the off day following the Saints game to fly him for a private workout (no media). They are playing this one close to the vest.
He isnt going to sign until the team breaks camp in Napa,…whomever wrote this story is clueless…he is signing tomorrow, will practice in Alameda, not Napa.
They’re not in a hurry because he’s not in their immediate plans anyway. And as for the idea that Rosenhaus is squeezing them for ridiculous money, I wouldn’t put it past him, but what’s his leverage? Hold out? From what?
At this point he’s not a priority.
All this Tebow and Pryor “news” is actually making me start to miss the (not so long ago) days of KevinKolbTalk.com. At least that guy will actually be a starter this season. Who…..the……hell……cares?
Pryor’s got to get the best contract since it will be his last because if the raiders think this guy is a pro quarterback, I’m going to love watching another failed experiment as I did watching Jamarcus Russell and Vince Young..
Two words why it isn’t done yet: Drew Frickin’ Rosenhaus…ok three words.
5 game suspension. It’s preseason. Not an urgency. Non-story.
This statement, “We like a lot of what the new-look Raiders have been doing lately”, is completely ridiculous. NOTHING is going to change or look “new” as long as Al Davis is coherent enough to give orders.
Get a clue.
Did anyone expect anything else???
He’s a Rosencrotch client!!!!!!!!!!!!!
micraidermicraider,
He absolutely can and will practice with the team until the regular season starts. His suspension is for 5 regular season games, giving him the ability to practice with the team until preseason ends once he’s signed. Which is why everyone is questioning the holdup.
His suspension won’t even begin until he signs a contract since he’s not an NFL employee until he signs. If they followed your lead and not signed him until week 6, he would be suspended until week 11.
Swervinmervin,
That was speculation by Tafur. Hue Jackson said after practice yesterday that they wanted to get him in this week but were waiting on other issues. Not saying it couldn’t be true, but Jackson disputed the notion.
I’m guessing Rosenhaus wants more than the slotted money.
@swervinmervin
Well stated, and accurate on all accounts. Plus… Rosenhaus and the Raiders have worked together well in the past.
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@micraidermicraider
>>Uhhh, he can’t practice with the team until after his suspension. Thought for sure you guys knew this. Just trying to stir the pot I suppose…<<
Yes, he can practice with the team. He's allowed to attend and participate in all team functions until the first regular season game is played. Then he goes on the shelf.
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@mybuttsayspft
Best screen name on the web! 🙂
I’m no Raiders fan, but how is this is a story? Don’t we fans always eviscerate Al Davis for signing players hastily with no consideration as to market value? Javon Walker, Tommy Kelly, Kamerion Wimbley, etc… Yet when it takes Al more than three days to sign a QB who can’t play for over a month anyway, the media makes a story out of it.
Like I said, I’m no Raiders fan. But wouldn’t it be great if, for once, we might admit that Al Davis is in the right here?
One problem is that Pryor has the most combative, cantakerous, and feared agent in the league. Any player with Rosenhaus as an agent is instantly labeled a trouble-maker.
I have to agree with an earlier comment – they are just holding Pryor out until next week when the media will no longer be allowed at practice. The Raiders don’t need all that commotion distracting their other players and Pryor doesn’t need the added attention.
ESPN
“The embattled former Ohio State quarterback has been through too much red tape already. It’s time for him to move on and concentrate on his NFL career.
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Wow, those at ESPN too are showing sympathy for Terrell. I wonder why they aren’t doing the same for Cam? Oh yes, their blind loyality to UA’s money will win out over integrity everytime. Nevermind…Carry on.
The Raiders only took him to prevent other teams from getting Pryor. They really didn’t want him for themselves…..
Can’t wait to shut up all the Raider Haters up.
micraider.. thanks for the quote.. but you missed the part where he can practice in full pads with the team in the preseason. technically his suspension starts during the regular season.
Raiders are waiting till after napa to bring him in.
no big deal….only one day left in camp.
cowboyfan45 says:
Aug 25, 2011 11:44 AM
Pryor’s got to get the best contract since it will be his last because if the raiders think this guy is a pro quarterback, I’m going to love watching another failed experiment as I did watching Jamarcus Russell and Vince Young..
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Tony Romo….lmao
I can see it now, AL vs DREW.
AL: I know we drafter Pryor but he was in the supplemental draft and we’d really rather him play receiver so we’re gonna pay him like a supplemental draft receiver.
DREW: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? THIS KID PLAYED AT THE U. HE’S TOP 10 TALENT. YOU PAID JAMARCUS BIG BUCKS, I EXPECT THIS KID TO BE A TOP 5 QUARTERBACK IN THE LEAGUE, FORGET BREES, MANNING, AND BRADY THOSE GUYS ARE SLOW THIS GUY CAN FLY. He’s deserving of at worst #2 overall money.
Pryor hasn’t signed?!!! OH NO!!! It’s the end of the world!
Does the name McRussell ring a bell at QB? I never wanted the Raiders to draft this loser. I think it’s a step back no matter how fast he can run. I hope he never signs. He’s a bust before he gets started. Maybe he’s getting trained by Russell before he signs.
Waiting until Raiders break camp…off today short practice tomorrow then back to Oakland…no hurry anyway.
Pryor wants 3 tattoos, Raiders want to give him 2: one guaranteed, one in escalators.
Good show.
The Raiders are their 25th year of rebuilding.
Ummmmm Pryor wants 3 tats and 12 cars to be used over the next 3 years….
He was drafted on Monday. It’s Thursday. As you know, many of those rookie contracts took a heckuva lot more than five minutes–and five days–to sign. The Raiders were burned by the guarantees in Russell’s contract, so I’m sure they’re taking that into consideration. And they may be trying to lowball Pryor because of the five-game suspension.
Meanwhile, perhaps Rosenhaus would want to protect his kid from being short-changed over the suspension–as well he should. And Pryor may want some assurance that he’ll be developed as a QB. It’s a little more complicated to negotiate a contract from the supplemental draft because it doesn’t fit perfectly within the cascading formula applied to the other first rounders.
Once he does sign, he’ll have five weeks to study film and playbooks away from the team. It’s not like they need to sign him ASAP so he can be on the field week one.
If he doesn’t like their terms can they throw him back?
“Deb says:
Aug 25, 2011 3:46 PM
He was drafted on Monday. It’s Thursday. As you know, many of those rookie contracts took a heckuva lot more than five minutes–and five days–to sign.”
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Good post.
Per Steve Corkran of the Contra Costa Times in a live chat on insidebayarea.com today regarding the delay in Pryor’s contract:
“No worries there. I have been told that the Raiders wanted to bring him in on an off day — today — so that he could ease into things, in terms of meeting with offensive coordinator Al Saunders and his teammates. He also won’t be exposed to the media until Tuesday in this scenario, so he has a few days to get grounded.”
“The inexplicable delay in getting Pryor into the fold is something better suited to the bumbling Silver and Black tendencies that disappeared (we thought) in 2010.”
Go back at least 10 years or more and you will find that Raider rookies were always signed and in camp on time. JaPurple was the only holdout.