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Lane Kiffin says it’s “almost impossible” to win with Al Davis

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When Al Davis fired Lane Kiffin as coach of the Raiders three years ago, Davis said Kiffin was a “disgrace to the organization.” Kiffin says the real disgrace is that the organization is led by an owner who demands control but can’t get out of bed in time to get to work.

In an interview with ESPN.com, Kiffin said he doesn’t see how a coach can win in the current climate in Oakland.

“It is almost impossible,” Kiffin said. “I don’t know why I didn’t listen, [because] so many people told me that. That’s why, if you ask [University of Washington coach Steve Sarkisian], he didn’t go. He had a chance to go. You’re just so far behind other clubs. You’re waiting for [Davis] to wake up and come to work at 2 o’clock in the afternoon to make decisions that the rest of the league is making at 6 o’clock in the morning. You’re still running videotapes over to the hotel so he can watch practice at night.”

Kiffin, who’s now the head coach at USC, sounds like he feels more pity than anger toward the 82-year-old Davis.

“It was sad, really, to see somebody who’s accomplished so much in his career and been such a powerful figure in the NFL,” Kiffin said. “To see that was actually pretty sad to watch.”

“Sad to watch” pretty well describes football in Oakland over the last several years.

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  1. sfloyal says: Aug 26, 2011 3:37 PM

    As a die hard niner fan…I hope Al lives forever!

  2. nyctexan says: Aug 26, 2011 3:38 PM

    Wow… he said what we’ve all been thinking, the Raiders are literally being run into the ground by an old, senile man.

  3. ledtear says: Aug 26, 2011 3:39 PM

    It is seemingly impossible for Kiffin to win anywhere…

  4. giorgiom3 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:39 PM

    That’s funny, I thought it was impossible to win with Lane Kiffin.

  5. southbeachtalent says: Aug 26, 2011 3:39 PM

    Thank you Captain Obvious!

  6. realfootballfan says: Aug 26, 2011 3:40 PM

    I think those other coaches who made his franchise among Pro sports winningest franchises would beg to differ.

    Furthermore, what’s been the problem for Lane since he left Oakland, we’re still waiting? Maybe the TN and USC Ads have held him back, lol.

  7. 2sloweggroll says: Aug 26, 2011 3:40 PM

    In related news … the Raiders, Vols and Trojans all say it is impossible to win with Kiffin

  8. joegibbsisking says: Aug 26, 2011 3:40 PM

    Boom, ROASTED *Michael Scott voice*

  9. kd75 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:40 PM

    You’re waiting for [Davis] to wake up and come to work at 2 o’clock in the afternoon to make decisions

    “Just Sleep Baby!”

  10. schmitty2 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:41 PM

    they are both turds

  11. derekjetersmansion says: Aug 26, 2011 3:41 PM

    Wow! I didn’t know Al was such a hard partier.

  12. americankris says: Aug 26, 2011 3:43 PM

    Lane cant win in general

    He has one of the best Defensive Coordinators ever as a dad cant cant win diddly

    Hes a bum

  13. mrcosio says: Aug 26, 2011 3:44 PM

    Come on guys are we gonna take this guy seriously? This is the same guy who wanted to draft Trent Edwards and then begged Al Davis to sign DeAngelo Hall and all those useless FA’s

    I mean the main reason for his fame is for being Monte Kiffin’s son

  14. uclabruininstlouis says: Aug 26, 2011 3:44 PM

    Isn’t there some type of board of directors for the Raiders? I mean, every business has oversight over people who just can’t do the job any more. It’s pathetic. I’m not a Raiders fan in particular but it’s just so disappointing to see this organization going down the toilet.

  15. maaaatix says: Aug 26, 2011 3:44 PM

    The raiders still play football?

  16. yallbetuckfards says: Aug 26, 2011 3:45 PM

    Lance needs to keep his piehole shut. He sucked in Oakland, he sucked Tennessee, and guess what? He gonna suck at SC too.

    Never seen a guy who has done so little be as smug and arrogant as this lame.

  17. indywilson40 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:45 PM

    Lane and Al, move on guys.

  18. 2sloweggroll says: Aug 26, 2011 3:46 PM

    What decisions are being made by the owner at 6am for other teams?

    This dude is a tool. He should have listened? Lets see, you are a young coordinator that is offered a job that only 31 other people on the plant have and you should have listened to Steve Sarkisian? Who? He took this golden oppurtunity and treated it like a entitled brat. he then exploited the oppurtunity, while still coaching in the NFL and tried to get a college job. Where was this guys real focus.

    Without Al davis he would never have the last three jobs he got. he would be luck to working on the Seahawks staff as a rb coach.

  19. seneca1ss says: Aug 26, 2011 3:47 PM

    Even Lame Kiffin is clowning on The Krypt Keeper

  20. 4512dawg4512 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:47 PM

    Didn’t they just sign Lito Shepperd? The Giants didn’t even sign him even though they’d get under the desk with a vomit bucket next to them just to get a cornerback. God I love the Raiders!

  21. Ratpee1 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:47 PM

    Al Davis is the greatest owner known on the face of the planet.

    Signed,

    The Kansas City Chiefs

    The Denver Broncos

    The San Diego Chargers

    The Los Angeles 49ers

  22. m2karateman says: Aug 26, 2011 3:48 PM

    Sorry, Oakland fans, but you have to admit that Al Davis is completely out of touch with reality and with the NFL. Lane Kiffin is no winner, either, I agree. But Al Davis built a great franchise, and is now utterly tearing it down brick by brick.

    He, Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder are shining examples of why owners should hire people to handle the teams, and then allow those folks to do what must be done without interference. Provided they hire the right person, things will be much better off.

    Now, one of you Raider fans wake Al up, change his diaper and feed him his oatmeal.

  23. berniemadoffsides says: Aug 26, 2011 3:49 PM

    I think the bigger problem is how the Raiders’ front office is a bunch of “Yes Men”.

  24. raideralex99 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:49 PM

    Now that’s a sad story … getting old sucks.

  25. jjackwagon says: Aug 26, 2011 3:49 PM

    Where is Faider Nation rallying in support of the CryptKeeper?
    Must still be toasting TP with a plastic cup of purple drank.

  26. ji536994 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:49 PM

    I know its fun to hate on the raiders, but what does it say about all the other teams who have fared worse over the years? The raiders were 8-8 last year, sure its nothing to be proud of, but thats more wins than over HALF of the NFL.

    If your team finished with 7 or less wins, Al is doing a better job than your owner.

  27. rushbacker says: Aug 26, 2011 3:51 PM

    Cue the mouthbreathers mumbling about how “the Nation will rise again.” LOL.

  28. lov3likerockets says: Aug 26, 2011 3:51 PM

    I dont blame Lane at all for this statement! The Raiders have been a joke since Jon Gruden left. And please dont even try to use the year after with Bill Callahan as an argument against that. If you posses more than half a brain, then you can easily realize that was Gruden’s doing by assembling the team, and Gannon’s doing on the field.

    And you seriously must be kidding yourself, or just simply a herp a derp raiders fan to think Lane can’t win. Did you not realize he won 8 games with USC while picking up the shrapnel Pete Carroll left behind? And has them back in the top 25 this season with a chance for an AP National title? I can’t decide if its more painful or just idiotic to be a Raider fan these days.

  29. oxyvikadin says: Aug 26, 2011 3:52 PM

    It is kind of comical to see a guy with zero credibility on anything football call out another guy with zero credibility on anything football.

  30. pftareraiderhaters says: Aug 26, 2011 3:53 PM

    Michaeld David Smith, and Evan Silva, can only post this kind of stuff….

    Bottom line Lame Kiffin lived up to his name.

  31. julianoak1 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:53 PM

    These stories are way to easy… you’re just being lazy Michael assuming all we want to read is how al davis should go away or how the raiders have been bad. Try explaining to everyone how Lane has burned bridges in oakland and with the vols and will soon bring down usc. try explaining both sides next time. Lane has as much to do with what happened during his stint as al davis did.

  32. denardsbig10inchdong says: Aug 26, 2011 3:54 PM

    ask jon gruden…he seemed to do just fine.

  33. joelvis72 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:54 PM

    Al still wants to watch practice tapes on his Beta machine.

  34. woods546 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:54 PM

    First of all, if you look up weasel in the dictionary, the 2nd definition is simply Lane Kiffin. Sure, Al Davis is his own road block in getting the Raiders back to the playoffs. Nearly all Raider fans would love Al to turn the football ops over to someone else. But as long as Al gets up at all, that won’t happen. Give the man credit, the team he has right now has more positive vibes and talent than it has in a long time.

  35. oakfan23 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:55 PM

    Im not gonna say AL is a great owner or even a good owner anymore, and for the record watching alot of what is going on the last couple of years, it does seem like he is letting go a little, but this article would hold so much more water if Kiffin won anywhere. Kiffin is a loser, Im a big Notre Dame fan, and they couldn’t beat USC until Kiffin got there. This is laughable coming from him

  36. ch8878 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:55 PM

    Kiffin is the one who is sad, he won’t be coaching much longer can’t live up to what his dad has done !!

  37. rdrs68 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:55 PM

    True, but who will people remember fifty years from now Al or Lane?

  38. vaporiizz3r says: Aug 26, 2011 3:57 PM

    Its sad to see such a great Owner for so many years go down the toilet like this. This team will not do good till hes gone. by the looks of him it wont be to many years before the Raiders become good again.

  39. mrcosio says: Aug 26, 2011 3:57 PM

    One last point, when asked about Sea Bass’ 76 yard FG he blames Shane Lechler? Way to own up to that stupid call Lame Kitten, God I pray for the day USC cans this dude and gets a real coach

  40. ampats says: Aug 26, 2011 3:58 PM

    Sad To Watch, Raiders Football.

    Decade of incompetence

  41. skolvikings2011 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:58 PM

    We all heard Davis shred Lane Kiffin when he was fired. I think this is fair game for Kiffin to be able to get his side of the story in. Of course, it cannot be 100% all on Al Davis, but I have a propensity to believe what Kiffin is saying here, especially after watching the debacle that some of the Raider moves have been (1st Round picks for Moss, Seymour, Heyward-Bey, etc). I feel bad for the Raider fans to have such inept ownership.

  42. raiderlyfe510 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:58 PM

    Gruden won here..and we were 8-8 last year with Hue Jackson.

    It’s almost impossible to win with Al Davis when you are as under-qualified for the position as Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable was…Raider Nation forgot about that joke…yet the Raiders are still on his mind.

    Lance Kiffin you’re set up for failure at USC..and when that fails I doubt we will here from you again.joke of a coach.

  43. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 26, 2011 4:03 PM

    Young Lance, You’re a clown and a joke.

    You’re very lucky to be employed in any capacity by a football team.
    The Peter Principle in action….

  44. marvsleezy says: Aug 26, 2011 4:07 PM

    They should have a new rule that owners are only allowed to own. They can make business decisions, but all personal decisions and even cap decisions should be left to the football department.

    Anyone found tampering would be fined 1 million $$’s

  45. packerrube13 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:08 PM

    What’s funny, is the Raiders have been to the superbowl more recently than the Chiefs, Broncos, 49ers, and Chargers….

  46. raiderfanforlife says: Aug 26, 2011 4:08 PM

    Lane Kiffin is nothing but a jock sniffer. He used the Raiders as a stepping stone to get a big time college gig. He left the Tennessee programs in shambles after numerous NCAA violations. He has his so called “Dream Job” at USC now. But in two years he will blame his lack of success on Pete Carroll for the sancitons placed on USC before he got their as head coach, keep in mind that he was there when USC was committing all of these violations. This guy lives off of his dad’s reputation and has done nothing to earn any credibility as a football coach. Get ready Pete you are the next up in the Lane Kiffin blame game. Bet on it.

    Can Dana White please schedule a UFC bout between him and Hue Jackson? Action Jackson will open up a can this punk. When Hue turns it all around in Oaktown what will he say then? That Al got too old to meddle?

    The essence of a rat is to blame everyone else for you problems. Don’t forget to trim your whiskers Lance.

    Next stop Green Bay where he will find plenty of cheese.

  47. radrntn says: Aug 26, 2011 4:10 PM

    i think he meant to say ” it is almost impossile to win in court against Al Davis…….I remeber when BSPN was all over how he was going to win his lawsuit against the raiders, etc….but i guess the 76 yard field goal attempt , when he still had two times out left, only to let 40 seconds run off the clock, pretty much summed up what type of coach he was. LAME kifin.

  48. humb0lt says: Aug 26, 2011 4:10 PM

    Howard Hughes didn’t die. He became Al Davis.

  49. joetoronto says: Aug 26, 2011 4:10 PM

    Good move, MDS!

    When you need hits, no sense posting about the Chargers, Donkeys or Chiefs.

    It’s the Raiders all the way, baby!

  50. meeky1985 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:11 PM

    I’m sorry Lane Kiffin can you remind us where you have won at?.. cause it sure was not at Tennessee.. and i believe detroit going 0-16 and never even seen the SB is sad their is only 6 teams in the NFL with a better roster and history then the RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  51. TowedJumper1982 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:12 PM

    Lane Kiffin is a retard, if I were Al Davis, I’d be pissed if some retarded kid called me names.

  52. weneedlinemen42 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:13 PM

    Al Davis looks painfully infirm these days but, if anything, the last few years suggest that he was spot on in his press conference tirade against Lane Kiffin.

  53. 1nationraidernation says: Aug 26, 2011 4:14 PM

    BSPN, and michael david smith…what else do you expect. Dynamic duo of of spreading raider hating propoganda, and lies.

  54. bossplayer213 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:15 PM

    Pot. Kettle. Black. Both these guys are knuckleheads.

  55. 808raiderinparadise says: Aug 26, 2011 4:15 PM

    That’s saying a lot about his abilities if Cable and Hue Jackson can get 8 win season then. Kiffin your awful at life.

  56. deadmanwalking47 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:16 PM

    lane kiffin coaching the raiders for al davis was one tool trying to measure up against a tool that is very crusted,arthiritic,and rusted!kiffin won’t win anywhere and the raiders won’t win until dart al is gone to that great big death star in the sky!

  57. tdk24 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:16 PM

    Who is Lane Kiffin?

  58. allheat says: Aug 26, 2011 4:18 PM

    Silva?

  59. paulsdamnblog says: Aug 26, 2011 4:21 PM

    Unfortunately for Oakland fans, its Davis’s team and until someone can convince him otherwise, he knows whats best for it. Oh and Kiffin is a huge douche.

  60. Ratpee1 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:21 PM

    What’s funny, is the Raiders have been to the superbowl more recently than the Chiefs, Broncos, 49ers, and Chargers….

    Even funnier that the 49ers have 5 Super Bowl rings to the Raiders 3.

    Senors last Super Bowl: 1.26.03

    Buccaneers 48 Senors 21

  61. mvp43 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:22 PM

    At some point the NFL has to step in and evaluate his ownership or something. Not only is he ruining his own team, but it’s a black mark on the NFL itself. Al Davis needs to go…….

  62. granadafan says: Aug 26, 2011 4:25 PM

    The Lame Kitten time in Oakland was the perfect storm of incompetence. Al foisted Jawalrus Russell on the Kitten, who was clearly in over his head in the NFL, let alone college. The stories that come out make it clear that Al is really the coach of the Raiders and the “head” coach is merely there to see to the minor details. Al has lost his abilities to coach anymore and the organization needs to realize that or have the guts to tell him. Players know they can go above the heads of coaches, thus undermining their authority.

    Raider fans, yes, your team USED to be good. However, you haven’t done squat in the last decade or so. Stop living in the past and demand excellence NOW. This isn’t the 70s anymore. Cliff Branch and Lester Hayes (my favorite) ain’t suiting up. The owner is HURTING the team, not helping the team. The sooner you realize that, the better the team will be.

  63. hobartbaker says: Aug 26, 2011 4:26 PM

    Raider’s staff has to wait for the sun to go down before Al can emerge from his room.

  64. eatlessveggies says: Aug 26, 2011 4:27 PM

    I like egg rolls. I don’t think I like the Raiders though.

  65. ilovefoolsball says: Aug 26, 2011 4:29 PM

    This is so true. Davis has lost touch with reality and that final superbowl appearance seems like an aberration. It’s ashame that the likes of McFadden will be mired in mediocrity and failure. You only get a few years to be an NFL player.

  66. realfootballfan says: Aug 26, 2011 4:31 PM

    I’ve never understood the “old” jokes when we all hope to get to that stage one day. It’s lame and disrespectful on behalf of every older person in this world.

    Furthermore, anyone who’s seen Al Davis speak knows the guy is still the same person he’s always been, ornery and demanding. I didn’t know that being spry and young is involved in evaluating whether players are good or not as it seems to be a pretty simple process.

    Kiffin couldn’t handle it, but the bigger question is why introduce why you’ve failed everywhere you have been, you have a horrible personality?

    I mean, what owner or athletic director would look at that interview or those quotes and hire you in the future, considering that he’ll probably be fired after this year since USC with or without the scholarship hits looked worse in every phase last year.

    I think the “I can get my dad to be my defensive coordinator” card probably won’t work anymore, lol.

  67. titsburgfeelers says: Aug 26, 2011 4:31 PM

    Now that’s funny. No wonder all their fans love talking trash Its hard to not be so bitter with ur team being run into the dirt for so long.

  68. mwcarolina says: Aug 26, 2011 4:34 PM

    I’m sorry Lane Kiffin can you remind us where you have won at?.. cause it sure was not at Tennessee..
    ———————————————————–
    USC Trojans were 8 and 5 and as i recall that’s a winning record, though it’s not the best, it’s still a winning record, NOW i would agree if people said Lane is a jerk or a quitter (he left Tennessee after a year), but he did win last year. he just didnt win alot.

  69. 6stairwayto7 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:35 PM

    “Kiffin says the real disgrace is that the organization is led by an owner who demands control but can’t get out of bed in time to get to work.”

    LOLOLOLOLOL Nice one

  70. cowboysfaninbuffalove says: Aug 26, 2011 4:35 PM

    @raiderlyfe510

    Your a raiders fan but yet you don’t know who your coach was last year…you said hue jackson but it was tom cable jeez raiders fans are dumb

  71. poprox13 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:35 PM

    Lance is a loser, let me get out the overhead projector and I’ll show you why………..

  72. whynotusecommonsense says: Aug 26, 2011 4:36 PM

    packerrube13 says:Aug 26, 2011 4:08 PM

    What’s funny, is the Raiders have been to the superbowl more recently than the Chiefs, Broncos, 49ers, and Chargers….
    ——————————————————
    Even funnier is the fact that the Raiders have been to the superbowl more recently than ANY AFC team except Pittsburgh, Indy and New England.

    @oxyvicadin,
    Really, you think Al Davis has zero credibility about anything football? There’s more football knowledge in his last diaper than there is or ever will be in your feeble little mind.

  73. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 26, 2011 4:36 PM

    Young Lance is about the only guy I’ve ever seen who keeps failing upward.
    A couple more failures and he’ll be the commissioner or something.

  74. bobwhitequail says: Aug 26, 2011 4:37 PM

    Davis was once a great football persona who unfortunately is now worthy of our pity.

    Kiffin is a small man who is probably more worthy of our comtempt. His own ambition led him to the Raiders job when no one else would take it. That same ambition caused him to screw Tennessee and if someone waived a few more dollars to his face he would screw USC as well IMO. I cannot feel sorry for the guy even though I understand that the Raider’s coaching job is one of the worst in sports.

  75. reapster says: Aug 26, 2011 4:42 PM

    Not going to defend Kiffin at all, BUT he is right Al Davis is what is wrong with the Raiders and it will probably get worse until he passes away then someone can pick up the pieces and try to build from there.

    I am not a fan of the Raiders but I really think them doing well is good for the NFL.

    Jerry Jones, and Daniel Snyder are in the same vein just much less senile.

    Guys like this need to realize the ability to afford a NFL team doesn’t qualify you to run a team. Although I wonder how many people posting on here if they were super rich would do the same thing, how many of these people would run a team into the ground because they would have the same attitude as Jerry, Daniel and Al.

  76. conjecture101 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:43 PM

    Mr. Davis said it best about Lane Kiffin. “He’s a flat out liar”

    Lane Kiffin’s word is worth about as much as a Merril Hodge rookie card. It is flat out embarrassing that this guy continues to get the platform to speak as if he has any shred of credibility.

  77. blackngold4life says: Aug 26, 2011 4:44 PM

    please dont bring them back to LA..how many times can u leave home then come back? you can keep ya sub 500 team and they drunk fans..LA has enough of that with the Dodgers

  78. raiderlyfe510 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:51 PM

    People calling Al Davis a bad owner…Al Davis is still innovating the game..he’s the one who started hiring you coaches in their early 30’s..now everybody is trying to follow it. the Bucs ..the donkeys tried it with Josh Mcdaniels..The Steelers etc. Al Davis started that trend.

    The reason why the Raiders have struggled for so long,is because the coaches that he wanted initially are being talked out of the position by some weasel.

    Instead of Norv Turner in 2004…It Was supposed to be Sean Payton.

    Instead of Art Shell it was supposed to be Bobby Petrino.

    Instead of Lance the spoiled brat Kiffin….it was supposed to be Steve Sarkisian.

    Tom Cable as absolutely horrible and Waaaay to under qualified…But Al Davis identified his next head coach in Hue Jackson, and very wisely hired him as a O Coordinator first…so when he wanted to hire him as a Head Coach nobody could sway him against taking the job.

    We FINALLY have a Al’s 1st choice as a Head Coach…watch Raider Football and the winning ensue.

    You all don’t know what you’re talking about. just mindless sheep of the media who pile on my Raiders.

  79. packerrube13 says: Aug 26, 2011 4:56 PM

    Ratpee1 says:
    Aug 26, 2011 4:21 PM
    What’s funny, is the Raiders have been to the superbowl more recently than the Chiefs, Broncos, 49ers, and Chargers….

    Even funnier that the 49ers have 5 Super Bowl rings to the Raiders 3.

    Senors last Super Bowl: 1.26.03

    Buccaneers 48 Senors 21
    ———————————————-

    Yeah and the Redskins used to be good too. But living in the past does no one any good.

    Raiders have had more recent success than those teams you originally listed that were thankful for Al Davis. Thus, you’re an idiot. J-Russ and DHB were mistakes, but Alex Smith, Kentwan Balmer, Rashaun Woods, Kwame Harris, Mike Rumph, and others have turned out just as bad. Yet the Raiders always get the bad rap.

    Raiders will finish 2011 season with more wins than the 49ers. I have no vested interest in either team, but the unnecessary constant ripping of the Raiders is off base. Over the last decade the 49ers have proven to be an even worse franchise, as have the Broncos and Chiefs.

  80. garyln7 says: Aug 26, 2011 5:12 PM

    Michael David Smith, the real disgrace is that you assume that Al can’t get out of bed to go to work. This is not news, he has been showing up for work in the afternoons for years. You should do your homework.

  81. marcsasharc says: Aug 26, 2011 5:19 PM

    its extremely amusing to read comments by Raider fans. you guys are right, the Raiders are good and have been forever. all other fans envy your contentment as Raider fans. all other fans envy your teams success. Hue Jackson is a magician. Al Davis is still the man.

    lol

  82. izwhatitis says: Aug 26, 2011 5:22 PM

    so how did Jon gruden win ? People so quick to always jump on Raiders but what about Lions,Bengals,Rams,Redskins,Niners? what have they done lately? nothing.

  83. xivraider says: Aug 26, 2011 5:22 PM

    Why the hate? what’s the point in owning a franchise if your not running it & just putting up the money for it? I guess it’s just two different mindsets.I mean Al Davis is the the raiders you take him away & change the atmosphere & history going forward you lose the raiders.It’s like any other storied franchise there has to be something a franchise stands for or it’s just another team.yeah Al’s made some huge blunders but who hasn’t? I’d rather have an owner with his own philosophies then some owner who just buys them.

    and congratulations on another team bashing article pft you guys must have a great handbook

  84. Ratpee1 says: Aug 26, 2011 5:26 PM

    2003. 4-12
    2004. 5-11
    2005. 4-12
    2006. 2-14
    2007. 4-12
    2008. 5-11
    2009. 5-11
    2010. 8-8

    Raider Greatness.

    I don’t know if it me or are Raider worshippers the most delusional bunch on the planet?

    The last time you had any success your owner traded the Coach to the Buccaneers.

    The Buccaneers would expose your butts on National TV.

    Via a Super Bowl.

    What other NFL franchise has done this?

    None.

    It doesn’t matter if your Raiders get good.

    Why because your leader will find a way to sabotage any success this team will have.

    It’s a poisoned franchise.

    Will Raider cult followers ever call a spade a spade??

  85. souldogdave says: Aug 26, 2011 5:30 PM

    Wow, volatile subject, much hubris and rancor. People tend to overlook the improvements because of their prejudice. DHB looks pretty good so far this year, 3rd year, the important year.With Boss and the new kid, TE is stronger than it was last year, IMHO. The all-important o-line will be the elephant in the room, as well as run defense. Tough schedule, but we should be at least 2-2 the 1st month.Broncs and Bills will go down, if we can steal one from the Jets or N.E. that would be sweet. McFadden, Bush, Taiwan Jones, Bennet, all players. New receiver Darius Moore, wow!Got some skill players in as youngun’s. We need to pick up a couple of tough guys on D to stop the run.And Jason, don’t underthrow your receivers, you’ll get them hurt.

  86. schmitty2 says: Aug 26, 2011 5:32 PM

    whynotusecommonsense says:
    Aug 26, 2011 4:36 PM
    packerrube13 says:Aug 26, 2011 4:08 PM

    What’s funny, is the Raiders have been to the superbowl more recently than the Chiefs, Broncos, 49ers, and Chargers….
    ——————————————————
    Even funnier is the fact that the Raiders have been to the superbowl more recently than ANY AFC team except Pittsburgh, Indy and New England.

    @oxyvicadin,
    Really, you think Al Davis has zero credibility about anything football? There’s more football knowledge in his last diaper than there is or ever will be in your feeble little mind

    Are you trying to talk up the Raiders because they went to the Super Bowl 8 years ago and got theirs a$$es kicked?? As far as Davis goes..his knowledge went out the door back in the early 90’s

  87. soaringelvis says: Aug 26, 2011 5:38 PM

    Nobody wants to live to be 90, except the guy who’s 89 years old…

    The last star in the Universe will burn out in 100 trillion years (fact), and Al Davis will be there to witness it!!

    Can you imagine how the cosmos would have spun out if there was no “Tuck Rule?”

    I love rules!

  88. packerrube13 says: Aug 26, 2011 5:41 PM

    Ratpee1 says:
    Aug 26, 2011 5:26 PM
    2003. 4-12
    2004. 5-11
    2005. 4-12
    2006. 2-14
    2007. 4-12
    2008. 5-11
    2009. 5-11
    2010. 8-8

    Raider Greatness.

    I don’t know if it me or are Raider worshippers the most delusional bunch on the planet?

    The last time you had any success your owner traded the Coach to the Buccaneers.

    The Buccaneers would expose your butts on National TV.

    Via a Super Bowl.

    What other NFL franchise has done this?

    None.

    It doesn’t matter if your Raiders get good.

    Why because your leader will find a way to sabotage any success this team will have.

    It’s a poisoned franchise.

    Will Raider cult followers ever call a spade a spade??

    ————————————————-

    Says the guy who’s team employs Alex Smith as it’s starting QB, won’t pay their 2nd best offensive player, let’s Crabtree do what he wants, and has done almost nothing in a decade. But hey, let’s continue projecting. It’s fun, right?

    “My team sucks, I’m miserable, so I’m going to point other team’s flaws!!”

    At least I can talk, my team just won the superbowl. 49ers play in the worst division in sports, and STILL couldn’t pull out a winning record the last EIGHT seasons. Hypocrisy in its finest form.

  89. ronlm says: Aug 26, 2011 5:44 PM

    Al Davis’ only real mistake was in hiring Kiffin in the first place. He was too young, too inexperienced… and most of all, too weak of character. And, as it turns out, not a very good coach.

    What was sad to see, was how Kiffin treated the Raiders organization… and how he treated the Tennessee organization. He quit on both of those orgs. I have zero respect for that guy.. And there are many, many in football who feel the same way.

  90. dkhhuey says: Aug 26, 2011 5:50 PM

    I am wondering if one of Lane’s job requirements were to give Al his bath everyday! That would explain the look he has in the story’s pic after a reporter asked him about the worst part of his day.

  91. mindseye33 says: Aug 26, 2011 5:58 PM

    Nice dig at the end of the article. The Raiders went undefeated in their division last year and were pretty fun to watch actually, barely missed the playoffs if not for a botched kick at the end of the Arizona game. What a bunch of haters.

  92. crise40g says: Aug 26, 2011 6:06 PM

    Keep on Hating!

    Love,
    Raider Nation

  93. axespray says: Aug 26, 2011 6:13 PM

    packerrube13 says:Aug 26, 2011 5:41 PM
    “Says the guy who’s team employs Alex Smith as it’s starting QB, won’t pay their 2nd best offensive player, let’s Crabtree do what he wants, and has done almost nothing in a decade. But hey, let’s continue projecting. It’s fun, right?
    “My team sucks, I’m miserable, so I’m going to point other team’s flaws!!”
    At least I can talk, my team just won the superbowl. 49ers play in the worst division in sports, and STILL couldn’t pull out a winning record the last EIGHT seasons. Hypocrisy in its finest form.”

    ————
    Someone just delivered THE BUSINESS.

  94. dawsonleery says: Aug 26, 2011 6:18 PM

    I think Al Davis is finally getting it turned around. I can see another 8-8 season but I got a feeling Hue Jackson is the right guy, I never had the feeling with Kiffin or Cable. If Al Davis wants to return to greatness he’s gotta give Hue Jackson at least 4 years.

  95. racerx1225 says: Aug 26, 2011 6:22 PM

    Well thankfully the NFL wasnt invented 8 years ago and we had a decent season last year. 5 Superbowls, 3 rings, 1 blown call from being in another 5 Superbowls. Winning records against all but 5 teams in the NFL. Our own frikkin wing in Canton. Hate all you want haters, makes me feel good to hear your pathetic opinions irrespective of facts. The fact is that Al Davis is the man who has had the most influence on the NFL still alive today, bar none. Plenty of teams have had longer streaks than 7 years losing but not many have been to 5 Superbowls. So let the haters hate, chances are their team is worse and so is their owner.

  96. racerx1225 says: Aug 26, 2011 6:23 PM

    John Gruden did just fine too.

  97. racerx1225 says: Aug 26, 2011 6:24 PM

    Lance Kiffen is a frikkin tool… he is a laughable not-qualified-for-the-NFL lamer.

  98. mypuppyfarted says: Aug 26, 2011 6:28 PM

    Wow. Lance proves how stupid he is repeatedly. Can’t beat Al in court, can’t beat any other team on the field so now he has to bad mouth Al. Way to go, Lance, stay classy.

  99. nyyankeedave says: Aug 26, 2011 6:33 PM

    @ packerrube13 says:

    At least I can talk, my team just won the superbowl. 49ers play in the worst division in sports, and STILL couldn’t pull out a winning record the last EIGHT seasons. Hypocrisy in its finest form.

    =================================

    Your team just won the superbowl and yet you’re picking on the lowly Niners? Nice. What exactly is it that you have against them? I mean, they’re irrelevant. If anything you should hold a special place in your heart for them. Oh, where did Mike Holmgren come from again? What was the name of that offense he installed? Oh, what team passed on Rodgers allowing your team to get him? Right. This post is about the Raiders. THE R-A-I-D-E-R-S.

  100. badmude says: Aug 26, 2011 6:34 PM

    And this is news worthy why?
    Are you lazy mediots so bored a PFT that you had to dig deep deep down into your biased hatred for the Raiders just to make up a worthless story? You poor excuse for writers should be ashamed of yourselves for putting out this non-story.
    Yes AD is an old man and hasn’t showed up for practices this year. His health probably isn’t that good and yet you wasted your time to cheap shot this HOF NFL icon. What are you bastards gonna write when he passes on? Take another cheap shot? You guys are pitiful!

  101. badmude says: Aug 26, 2011 6:42 PM

    What has Lane Kiffin ever done? He was a lousy inexperienced coach for the Raiders that was way over his head and out coached during every game. Oh yeah, he ran Tennessee into a poor season and constantly violated NCAA rules. He assistant coached and is now coaching a team that was violating rules and now is in punishment for it too?
    Lane is the authority in all things football now?

  102. socalraidervader says: Aug 26, 2011 6:43 PM

    WOW! Its amazing how so many of you haters take time out of your life to talk $hit on a great franchise! Sure we’ve been down and out for a few years. But if you think about it for just one minute, what franchise hasn’t had its ups and downs? Before the tuck rule, the Patriots were horrible….for a long time! Before Peyton the Colts sucked, before Brees the Saints were a disgrace of a franchise, before Bill Cowher the Steelers weren’t good at all(unless you go back to the 70’s)! Before Eli the Giants weren’t a powerhouse team!(still aren’t) The point I’m trying to make is every team struggles, every team has drafted a bust, every team has had a bad coach. No team is perfect! And as far as Im concerned if your team didn’t win the super bowl that year then your team is a loser, I dont care how good of a record you had that year! Your still a loser!

    There aren’t too many teams in the league that can say they’ve won a Super Bowl, let alone multiple Super Bowl titles. If it weren’t for Al Davis we wouldn’t have an NFL so start respecting your elders and stop talking $hit!

    WIN, LOSE OR TIE RAIDERS TIL I DIE!

    P.S There’s only one nation…. Raider Nation!

  103. jdial43 says: Aug 26, 2011 6:53 PM

    Oakland swept the AFC west last year while Al slept until 2:00, imagine what they could do IF he started at 6:00. thats what all you haters are really saying after all. You knock us, because you fear us

  104. thetruth619 says: Aug 26, 2011 7:01 PM

    Apparently its not so easy to win with Kiffin as your head coach either. Ask Tennessee and USC.

  105. sfc44e says: Aug 26, 2011 7:02 PM

    Kiffin has no room To talk about anyone! They deserved one another.

  106. bucks12965 says: Aug 26, 2011 7:04 PM

    I wonder who is more universally disliked…Lane Kiffin or Tiki?

    At least Kiffin still has a hot wife.

  107. eastbayjose says: Aug 26, 2011 7:08 PM

    Wow… Keeping digging yourself a deeper hole you disgrace. Lane your dad must be ashamed of you.

  108. snnyjcbs says: Aug 26, 2011 7:09 PM

    What is sad is how many PUNKS our country is producing today, and they wonder why the Nation is in decline.

    Never heard a FIRED man talk well about their employer. Kiffin has been shown to be a fella of very low character not only in Oakland but TN as well.

    The day this schmuck ever accomplishes anything in College lol, let alone the NFL maybe his words may mean something. If he was a Horse they would guild him, they do not want inferior Horses passing on their genes to the next generation.

  109. bombayjon says: Aug 26, 2011 7:55 PM

    Kiffin is such a turd. He always tries to take the credit for the good and defer blame for the bad. He is willing to badmouth anyone, even his own players and staff, if it serves is own purpose of propping himself up. I can’t believe USC does not see him for what he is, a smug little turd.

  110. gunner1970 says: Aug 26, 2011 8:09 PM

    NFL needs to force the sale of the Raiders franchise. Everyone but Kiffin has known for years that Al Davis is senile and clueless as an owner.

  111. jackbassett says: Aug 26, 2011 8:11 PM

    joelvis72 says:
    Aug 26, 2011 3:54 PM

    Al still wants to watch practice tapes on his Beta machine.
    ______________

    Your reference to Beta shows your age (young). Al actually uses reel-t0-reel. Draws up game plans with a quill and sends notes down to the sideline with a pigeon.

  112. thetruth619 says: Aug 26, 2011 8:14 PM

    I’m sorry Lane Kiffin can you remind us where you have won at?.. cause it sure was not at Tennessee..
    ———————————————————–
    USC Trojans were 8 and 5 and as i recall that’s a winning record, though it’s not the best, it’s still a winning record, NOW i would agree if people said Lane is a jerk or a quitter (he left Tennessee after a year), but he did win last year. he just didnt win alot.
    ____________________________

    Thats basically losing at USC.

  113. tomsd1 says: Aug 26, 2011 8:16 PM

    I have been a Raider fan since the early 70’s – when I lived in SF. Even had season tickets in the late 70’s before moving to San Diego.

    Sadly – the once brilliant Al Davis has not kept in tune with the modern game (you can’t just take what you want/go deep at any tiome – any longer against the Cover 2 D many teams play) – and he is now also physcially a wreck – although some say his mind is still sharp.

    As for Lane Kiffin – this should be a big season for him at the ole School – and last year – his dad had trouble adjusting to the college game (wider has marks), didn’t have live tackling practice because of the thin roster/fear of more injuries, were putting in a new system, Pete left the cupboard a bit bare – yada yada – and they still could have won three more games (11 in total) – if they had hung on at the end.

    Hopefully – they will come out smoking this year and could be going back undefeated/6 & O to play a similiar situated 6 & O Notre Dame team on Oct 22nd. (Note – just bought 2 tix/silent auction – at the Trojan Club of SD lunch today – which reatured radio announcer Pete Arbogast).

    That will be a barnburner if it happens.

  114. raiderapologist says: Aug 26, 2011 8:17 PM

    Nice to see Niner fans cracking on Davis. His miserable team would have won your division last year. Still, Raider fans realize Al makes a lot of bad choices these days. Like hiring Lane Kiffin.

  115. torturedraiderfan says: Aug 26, 2011 8:19 PM

    Whether you like Kiffin or not, he’s telling the truth. The Raiders will never win as long as Al Davis is alive. The old mean-spirited, vindictive, senile SOB make personnel decisions based on ego and not what’s best for the team. I’ve been a Raider fan since LaMonica was the QB and I can honestly say that after all those years I’ve grown to hate Al Davis….and don’t tell me you can’t be a Raider fan and hate Al Davis because the Raiders will be around long after that old rotten bastard is long gone.

  116. paulieorkid says: Aug 26, 2011 8:35 PM

    Al Davis needs his beauty sleep – and it’s paying off – and it seems to be paying off. In his last photo opp – he only needed two large band aids on his scalp, and there were only seven oozing partially crusted sores that were left uncovered.

    Cut the guy a break.

  117. Keyser Söze says: Aug 26, 2011 8:59 PM

    USC will suck this season and Lame Quiffen will blame Pete Carroll and Reggie Bush for it. That’s his MO….in case you haven’t noticed.

  118. whynotusecommonsense says: Aug 26, 2011 9:05 PM

    So schmittyduece, who’s your team? I doubt they’ve been to the bowl in the last 8 years. Or are you one of them bandwagon fans? Never mind I know the answer.

    Amazes me the number of trolls who are so concerned with the Raiders. No matter how bad they’ve been, they are still relevant to you fools. Raider fans are concerned with one team while you are consumed by ours. Pathetic.

  119. bbk1000 says: Aug 26, 2011 9:07 PM

    Mr. Davis can no longer run the Raiders, and hiring Kiffen was evidence of this years ago.

    Mr. Davis should leave it to people who will make the proper decisions, for the good of the franchise.

  120. rcali says: Aug 26, 2011 10:39 PM

    The first sign for Lane was somebody was offering you a job you had no business having in the first place. At least Al Davis has an excuse for making bad decisions.

  121. polishkingski says: Aug 26, 2011 11:19 PM

    stand corrected….yes i do….stand corrected. my order of most annoying fan bases. #1 eagles, #2 jets, #3RAIDERS!, #4 vikings or packers….after reading the level headed comments kifin made and to hear them laughed at by raider nation it moves them into the #3 spot. ralph wilson is old and i am sure he has a hard time doing things he did even 30 yrs ago! why is it so hard for retard nation to understand al`s ship has sailed? pathetic really.

  122. daubs17 says: Aug 27, 2011 1:05 AM

    Not a Lane Kiffin fan but you can’t argue with what he said. It has nothing to do with Lane’s personal W/L column or how great the Raiders used to be, etc.

    They’ve had what like 7 different head coaches since 2003 in almost as many years and have had a top 10 draft pick in just about every draft since their last SB run?

    Say what you want about Kiffin but its tough to argue with it and its not only Kiffin that has said these same things about Davis. He impedes a coach and franchise from progressing because he’s deeply involved in a decision process he has no business being part of.

    In case you haven’t noticed, Davis has forced the team to select the prospect with the fastest 40 time at the combine each of the last three years. Now he drafts Pryor, who ran a 4.3? The guy is an idiot and I hate to admit it but Lane Kiffin is dead on.

  123. ernestbynershands says: Aug 27, 2011 1:36 AM

    Wow! 2 things impressed me about the comments on this piece…
    First, I didn’t realize that inmates have so much access to the Internet in jail.
    Second, that Raiders fans can read and write. The reading thing surprises me. Anyone can spell with spellcheck now automatic on most pcs and phones.

  124. citynative says: Aug 27, 2011 5:50 AM

    @packerrube

    I forgot, where did Mike McCarthy coach before he came to Green Bay.

    As for Niners fans cracking the Raiders and vice versa, its called a rivalry. Im sure you do the same with the Bears and their fans.

  125. CKL says: Aug 27, 2011 8:48 AM

    I think Davis was wrong for his public lambasting of Kiffin using the old fashioned overhead projector but Kiffin should have taken the high road and let it go already. If it were just a person or two who had worked in or played for Oakland who had negative opinions or the work environment I would chalk it up to its being their problem…but there are just too many people who feel that way for me not to give it credence.
    Fact is Lane is a disgrace to his father who DOES have class.

  126. marcsasharc says: Aug 27, 2011 5:11 PM

    why would any team fear the Raiders? they suck and their fans arent tough anymore.

    getting your ass beat by “wine and cheese” 49er fans isnt a good look :)

  127. huejackson says: Aug 27, 2011 5:49 PM

    ok so lets be real ere, first of all Michael davi smith is raider hater, Were the raiders that bad last year/ They destroyed everyone in their divison TWICE.. If the kicker hits a 30yrd feild gol they would of been in the playoffs.
    Lane Kiffin is a cry baby and if it was horrible why is he still talking about it today?
    He is a failure coach. If this Smith writer had a bone of honesty in his little bad writer body he would also mention that Kiffin is HATED everywhere and has been caught in several lies and isa confirmed liar

  128. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Aug 27, 2011 11:52 PM

    raiderlyfe510 says:
    Aug 26, 2011 3:58 PM
    Gruden won here..and we were 8-8 last year with Hue Jackson.

    It’s almost impossible to win with Al Davis when you are as under-qualified for the position as Lane Kiffin and Tom Cable was…

    ——————————–

    Two questions for you sir:

    1. WTF is so great about 8 – 8? I guess that is the new standard for the Commitment to Excrement…

    2. Your Leader AKA the Crypt Keeper hired both of those clowns so who should be held responsible for the ensuing disasters?

    And finally, Gruden won there a decade ago so I am curious how long Raider Nation plans to hang on to his legacy. As I recall, Gruden destroyed you in the SB! ha ha ha

  129. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Aug 28, 2011 12:20 AM

    realfootballfan says:
    Aug 26, 2011 4:31 PM

    I’ve never understood the “old” jokes when we all hope to get to that stage one day. It’s lame and disrespectful on behalf of every older person in this world.

    ——————————–

    So when Grandpa gets to old to drive the car safely, what is your answer?

    Because many Raider fans on this thread recognize that the Crypt Keeper is too old to drive the f’ing car…

    I grew up in the 70’s loving two great teams – Cowgirls and Raiders, both of which are now led by bumbling idiots who are in dire need of a replacement. And I am not talking about their hips or knees…

  130. Deb says: Aug 29, 2011 11:21 PM

    nomoreseasontix says:

    Young Lance is about the only guy I’ve ever seen who keeps failing upward.
    A couple more failures and he’ll be the commissioner or something.

    ————————————————
    You know … Little Lanie Kiffin is an idiot. But that could still be an improvement over the current commish.

  131. udie34 says: Aug 29, 2011 11:57 PM

    Al Davis wants to respond on here to Lane’s comments but can’t figure out how to connect his overhead projector to the internet!

  132. lexnekst says: Aug 30, 2011 8:58 PM

    As a die hard niner fan…I hope Al lives forever!

    ————————————————–

    Well the 49ers havent donre much better the last 10 years. What’s their excuse?

  133. itsmebobd says: Aug 31, 2011 9:20 PM

    Ratpee1 says: Aug 26, 2011 3:47 PM

    Al Davis is the greatest owner known on the face of the planet.

    Signed,

    The Kansas City Chiefs

    The Denver Broncos

    The San Diego Chargers

    The Los Angeles 49ers

    *************************************

    WHO THE HELL ARE THE la 49’ERS? idiot

  134. david7590 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:02 AM

    @ji536994

    Last year was the first time since 02 that they didn’t lose at least 10 games. Al did not do better than anyone in that period except maybe Detroit, who by the way are now better than Oakland, so yes Al Davis is now the worst owner/GM in the game today.

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