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Chad Ochocinco’s sluggish start in New England continues

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Chad Ochocinco wasn’t exaggerating last week when he said he was behind the rest of the Patriots offense.

It doesn’t appear he caught up before the the team’s third preseason game, and it’s worth wondering exactly what Ochocinco’s role will be early in the year.

Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com broke down first-team snaps from Saturday’s game against Detroit. Ochocinco was in for 23 of 42 plays.  That total was closer to Taylor Price (17 snaps) than it was to Deion Branch (34) or Rob Gronkowski (32).  Wes Welker missed a series with an injury and played more than Ocho.

Ochocinco wasn’t effective when he played.  He didn’t make a catch, but he did have a 15-yard pass interference penalty. It looked like a bad call on television, but Tedy Bruschi of ESPNBoston.com points out that Ochocinco’s poor timing on the play caused the penalty.

“When you’re in the Patriots’ precision offense, there is a right way to run a play and a wrong way,” Bruschi wrote.

For now, Ochocinco is struggling to learn the right way. It’s only the preseason so there is no time to panic, but there’s no denying the transition hasn’t been easy.

“To put it plainly, Chad Ochocinco’s sucked this preseason,” Tom Curran of CSNNE.com. “Yet because the guy has works his ass off, shows up every single day ready to go and is as disappointed in himself as everyone who wanted an Ocho explosion on arrival, I’m cutting him slack.”

We tend to cut him slack too. It’s only August.

We’ll still be curious to see how this unfolds if Ochocinco is only the third, fourth, of fifth receiving option for Tom Brady come September.

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  1. mac3333 says: Aug 29, 2011 9:50 AM

    Thanks for the draft picks!

    Enjoy your cancer.

    I can’t wait until he runs the wrong route in a crucial spot and he tries to chew out Brady on the sideline on national TV. It’s going to be glorious when Tom, who has a pair unlike Palmer, tells him to stuff it.

    It’s going to happen people. Those who fail history are doomed to repeat it. And ole #85 is a big ball of fail.

  2. steelernationlolzatyouremptytrophycase6 says: Aug 29, 2011 9:55 AM

    Don’t look at us. We don’t want this clown. Our standards are way too high. 6

  3. jw731 says: Aug 29, 2011 9:57 AM

    At least he’s actually on the field..

  4. easyeintennessee says: Aug 29, 2011 9:57 AM

    I’d be sluggish too if the only thing I trained for in the offseason was another VH1 show. At his age, you cant just show up at training camp, and then start putting forth the effort.

  5. tbswarm says: Aug 29, 2011 9:58 AM

    If I was a Patriots fan, I wouldn’t be too worried atm.

  6. 1buckeye76 says: Aug 29, 2011 9:59 AM

    Chad is as good as he is going to get, get used to it Patriots.

  7. dietrich43 says: Aug 29, 2011 10:00 AM

    Preseason? We’re talking about preseason?

  8. chrishousand says: Aug 29, 2011 10:01 AM

    “Precision offense”? LOL. If that’s what you want to call dink and dunk screen passes and underneath routes all game long. No wonder Tom Brady had only 4 INTs last year.

  9. pjcostello says: Aug 29, 2011 10:01 AM

    I don’t know why anyone would expect him to be higher than 3rd on the WR depth chart… he’s not as fast as he once was, he doesn’t know the offense — there was no way he was going to supplant Wes Welker or Deion Branch. He was brought in to complement them, and that he’ll do quite well.

    When they need him.

    This is a Patriots team overflowing with offensive talent, including their tight ends and running backs. They didn’t, and don’t, need Ochocinco to step in and be Randy Moss Redux; they would be happy with David Givens.

  10. iflounder says: Aug 29, 2011 10:02 AM

    if there was any justice on this world the next pic would be those two barbarians kissing like french people.

  11. jpb12 says: Aug 29, 2011 10:03 AM

    They don’t need this guy. If he’s worth keeping, they’ll keep him. If they’ve got something better, they cut him.

    It’s just business.

  12. serifyn says: Aug 29, 2011 10:08 AM

    Branch and Welker know the system so they will be the WRs in if they are healthy, with the 2 TEs the Patriots always run, Gronkowski is the best blocker not on the OL and Hernandez is arguably the most explosive player on the offense.

    I dont think Ochocinco will be cut, when branch gets injured (it happens every year) he just better be ready to take over, although Taylor Price has looked pretty good.

    i think Tate is gone.

  13. swarlesbarrkley says: Aug 29, 2011 10:09 AM

    steelernationlolzatyouremptytrophycase6 says: Aug 29, 2011 9:55 AM

    Don’t look at us. We don’t want this clown. Our standards are way too high. 6
    ——
    the face of your franchise is a real classy guy.

  14. nbaraie says: Aug 29, 2011 10:11 AM

    He is paid to “get it” in December/January.

    He will be fine.

  15. sclazo says: Aug 29, 2011 10:13 AM

    Hope he is a major bust.

  16. therealcoltmccoy says: Aug 29, 2011 10:14 AM

    steelernationlolzatyouremptytrophycase6 says:
    Aug 29, 2011 9:55 AM
    Don’t look at us. We don’t want this clown. Our standards are way too high. 6

    Dude, it’s pretty obvious you’re just personifying the ‘typical’ Steelers fan and that you ‘re trying to make them look like even more annoying and boastful than they already are. Please stop, there’s got to be a better use of your time.

  17. sj39 says: Aug 29, 2011 10:16 AM

    Patriot fans and 85 deserve each other.

  18. Land Snark says: Aug 29, 2011 10:18 AM

    @mac3333

    “Those who fail history are doomed to repeat it.”

    That’s true of Chemistry, French and most other classes.

    But those who ignore history are also doomed. Then again, this isn’t the first Bengal the Pats have traded for either.

  19. kelvinmchale says: Aug 29, 2011 10:20 AM

    The Patriots went 14-2 with someone named Brandon Tate as their third receiver last year. With or without Ocho, they have enough targets for Brady, as long as he gets the necessary protection.

  20. Fan On Fire_Maurice Barksdale says: Aug 29, 2011 10:21 AM

    Chad Ochocinco was the best player on a bad team, which translates into only being a good player on a great team. The problem is the Patriots have a lot of good players, and Ochocinco doesn’t stand out amongst them. When you’re a player best known for touchdown celebrations rather than winning, it doesn’t surprise me that he’s struggling.

  21. jpiro says: Aug 29, 2011 10:21 AM

    Straight up for Roy Williams?

    - Bears Fans

  22. flagstaffphotos says: Aug 29, 2011 10:26 AM

    Ochocinco is the poor man’s DeSean Jackson – the poor, blind, drunk man’s DeSean Jackson.

  23. billinva says: Aug 29, 2011 10:27 AM

    Cut him. I’d rather give a younger guy a chance to develop.

  24. 3rdnlong says: Aug 29, 2011 10:29 AM

    Instead of “jetting” off to Atlanta(where he was seen last week) or Miami on his off day(s) he needs to be studying film/playbook and taking the time to learn. Showing up for practice and working hard will not magically teach him the system.

  25. stilllovemybungles says: Aug 29, 2011 10:31 AM

    Sluggish????? Thats as good as it gets! Goodluck NE!!! Thanks for the draft picks!

  26. rc33 says: Aug 29, 2011 10:37 AM

    LMAO @ “thanks for the draft picks.”

    A 5th and a 6th. Gee.
    Bengals are playoff bound now!

  27. marcuswelby70 says: Aug 29, 2011 10:38 AM

    “Precision offense”? LOL. If that’s what you want to call dink and dunk screen passes and underneath routes all game long. No wonder Tom Brady had only 4 INTs last year.

    ____________________________

    Then why don’t more teams run that offense ?

  28. depotnator says: Aug 29, 2011 10:42 AM

    Everyone who cuts Ocho slack is a Patriot media homer. In a land where ‘ In BB We Trust’, no one will turn on Ocho until BB does. Then there will be a chorus of ‘ We Told You So’.

  29. Kaz says: Aug 29, 2011 10:48 AM

    We should have stuck with the Bengals…

    Signed,
    T.J

  30. lockoftheweak says: Aug 29, 2011 10:54 AM

    I cut him some slack because it’s preseason on a team with a totally different culture and approach than what he is used to (ie: gotten away with). By the end of week 4 he will have played @Miami, San Diego, @Buffalo, and @Oakland. None of those teams are known for having a strong secondary. I’ll hold off on my judgement until week 4.

  31. castleofcheese says: Aug 29, 2011 10:57 AM

    The only person I hate as much as Mark Schlereth is Tedy Bruschi. I have to change the channel when either of those jackasses come on ESPN.

  32. bradshawlives says: Aug 29, 2011 10:58 AM

    steelernationlolzatyouremptytrophycase6 says:

    “Don’t look at us. We don’t want this clown. Our standards are way too high except at QB where we don’t care what he does.”

    How’s that Runner Up ring looking?

  33. pencilfart says: Aug 29, 2011 10:58 AM

    Brady looked like a slug against the lions.

  34. mykelane says: Aug 29, 2011 11:12 AM

    Wake me up when the Patriots win a POST SPYGATE playoff game.

  35. flash1283 says: Aug 29, 2011 11:18 AM

    depotnator says:
    Aug 29, 2011 10:42 AM
    Everyone who cuts Ocho slack is a Patriot media homer. In a land where ‘ In BB We Trust’, no one will turn on Ocho until BB does. Then there will be a chorus of ‘ We Told You So’.
    ———-

    This is just stupid , ofcourse he’s going to get some slack why wouldn’t he?

    He is learning a new offense without the having offseason workouts
    he’s been with the team for about 4 weeks.

    Like the guy above said give it at least until week 4 of the season before passing judgement.

    And yes it is in “BB we trust” who knows more about the team, me you the media or the HEAD COACH??

  36. mrtampa says: Aug 29, 2011 11:20 AM

    Preseason is made for learning. He has a lot to learn in a short period of time, he will come around. I think its more a matter of getting his signals down, so that he needs to be in just the right spot when the ball arrives. By the 3rd or 4th week of the regular season he’ll be a lot more comfortable with his new QB, the signals, and the routes.

  37. dasportsninja says: Aug 29, 2011 11:21 AM

    The PATS don’t need him to be an All-Pro. As long as he keep defenses honest and catches a few deep balls the Patriots offense could use him quite well.

  38. enders9 says: Aug 29, 2011 11:21 AM

    lol at all these Bengal fans saying “Thanks for the draft picks”

    When was the last time the Bengals drafted a player that has gone to a pro bowl? Enjoy your 5th and 6th round draft picks that you will use on players who never amount to anything in the NFL.

  39. icanthelpitimabengalsfan says: Aug 29, 2011 11:23 AM

    From a Bengals fan…

    Ive said it before, que the Ochoidiocy..its coming! Ocho performed in earlier years on superior athleticism, he never was disciplined and never very focused. Now even for the hoody, he is not getting it. Just wait until he goes 0-for in a real game. Hands will fly, mouth will go full power, tweets will be flying. And, if he does actually get the call in a go-to situation, alligator arms, drops and complaints about the pass not being where it needed to be.

    Make no mistake the guy is a cancer on the team…his lack of focus on his chosen profession gets old fast and others will see it. I will be interested to see if the exemplary team management of the Pats can change him.

  40. portnoychunk says: Aug 29, 2011 11:29 AM

    mykelane says: Aug 29, 2011 11:12 AM

    Wake me up when the Patriots win a POST SPYGATE playoff game.

    …..they did. “Spygate” was in the beg. of the 2007 season…the one in which they went to the Superbowl and went 18-1. Don’t let facts get in the way of your argument.

  41. august1969 says: Aug 29, 2011 11:31 AM

    @mac3333….those who fail history are doomed to repeat it….

    thanks for the draft picks…

    are you funny or stupid? i really can’t tell!

  42. trbowman says: Aug 29, 2011 11:40 AM

    Tom Curran is a hack.

  43. philyeagles5 says: Aug 29, 2011 11:42 AM

    “It’s going to be glorious when Tom, who has a pair unlike Palmer, tells him to stuff it.”
    =================================
    the same Brady that cries for flags when he gets poked???

  44. jetfanfolife says: Aug 29, 2011 11:50 AM

    mac3333 says:
    Aug 29, 2011 9:50 AM
    Thanks for the draft picks!

    Enjoy your cancer.

    I can’t wait until he runs the wrong route in a crucial spot and he tries to chew out Brady on the sideline on national TV. It’s going to be glorious when Tom, who has a pair unlike Palmer, tells him to stuff it.
    —————————————

    “Brady has a pair”…the funniest comment made so far…he was probably crying right after he threw the interception

  45. FinFan68 says: Aug 29, 2011 11:51 AM

    Chad is a great guy. He is also a malcontented unprofessional clown with deteriorating skills. He was good for the Bengals but the last few years he has declined. He was never known for running precise routes and that needs to change in the timing aspect of the Pats offense. If he makes the team but isn’t crisp on the routes or does his famous short-armed reaches, Brady will stop throwing to 85. That will not go over well with him and anybody that has followed the NFL over the last several years knows it.

  46. bostonsports11 says: Aug 29, 2011 11:53 AM

    Wake me up when the Patriots win a POST SPYGATE playoff game.

    ———————————————-

    do you remember 07? Only idiots bring up spygate…

  47. enders9 says: Aug 29, 2011 11:56 AM

    icanthelpitimabengalsfan says: Aug 29, 2011 11:23 AM

    Make no mistake the guy is a cancer on the team…his lack of focus on his chosen profession gets old fast and others will see it. I will be interested to see if the exemplary team management of the Pats can change him.

    ————————————-

    Bengal PLAYERS disagree about Chad being a cancer or distraction. After he was traded there were players who said he was not a distraction in the locker room, and that he was just one of the guys.

  48. hobartbaker says: Aug 29, 2011 12:02 PM

    Everyone is laying on the horn and throwing a finger at the bald guy putting along at 40 in the 85 zone.

  49. pftwstbshmc says: Aug 29, 2011 12:05 PM

    depotnator says:
    Aug 29, 2011 10:42 AM
    Everyone who cuts Ocho slack is a Patriot media homer. In a land where ‘ In BB We Trust’, no one will turn on Ocho until BB does. Then there will be a chorus of ‘ We Told You So’.

    I am a HUGE Patriots fan (have been for 3/4 of my life) and when I heard he was signed here I told everyone my nickname for him – “O-No-Stinko”. It still stands. Until he proves otherwise to me, that is his name. He is all hype and can on occasion be a really good reciever. However he has NEVER been in an offense this complex so I don’t know if does or if he can “get it”. Many here in Patriots nation hope he does because on paper he could be a great asset, but if reality says otherwise…. bye-bye…..

  50. flakazoid says: Aug 29, 2011 12:07 PM

    marcuswelby70 says
    “Precision offense”? LOL. If that’s what you want to call dink and dunk screen passes and underneath routes all game long. No wonder Tom Brady had only 4 INTs last year.
    ____________________________

    Then why don’t more teams run that offense ?

    ———————————————————
    Because that offense is based on deception. You need the other team’s signals to make it effective.

    See, the cheating scumbag with the video camera gives the video tape to the mysterious cheating scumbag old friend of the head cheating scumbag who deciphers the signals then sends them down to the head cheating scumbag who relays them to the cheating scumbag with the sissy hair who magically audibles to a screen pass at the exact same time the opponent comes with a blitz from that exact same side.

    And that, sports fans, is how the Patriots offense works!

  51. ossipeepats says: Aug 29, 2011 12:09 PM

    A post spy gate playoff win? I can think of two of them off hand. One was over Jacksonville, and the other was over San Diego.

  52. itsmebobd says: Aug 29, 2011 12:36 PM

    This does not surprise me at all. This clown has been thinking it was everyone around him who was the problem for the past 4 years, meanwhile it was him focusing on his reality shows, twitter, and pathetic OCNN. I loved chad in 2006 and years prior, the guy backed up his smack talk. But he got old, lost a step, and to be honest once TJ Houshmandzadeh and Chris Henry weren’t there to take away some heat in the passing game, he flopped. Great Receivers excel no matter what. Who does Andre Johnson have to take the heat off him? Nobody, yet he always looks amazing. Larry Fitzgerald still looks great without anquan boldin. Not to mention, chad quit showing up for the voluntary minicamps, once he did this, he went down hill. I was calling for chad to be traded to the redskins for 2 first rounders, Chris Henry wasnt gone (RIP) yet and we had other options, not to mention could have easily bolstered the defensive line and WR position with the picks. Instead we wait until hes worth nothing and trade him to the patriots. Looks like for once, Mike Brown got the better of Bill Belichick. Never EVER thought i’d say that, but chad isnt worth a cardboard cutout and a $20 chipotle giftcard, let alone a 5th and 6th rounder. WHODEY

  53. hooockey says: Aug 29, 2011 12:40 PM

    Ocho going from 9 years of Bob Bratkowski’s offense to the Patriots is like going from college to the NFL. Ocho is learning that many NFL offenses are highly complex.

  54. mogogo1 says: Aug 29, 2011 12:43 PM

    “When you’re in the Patriots’ precision offense, there is a right way to run a play and a wrong way,” Bruschi wrote.

    _______________________

    Is there any offense, at any level all the way down to Pop Warner, where that wouldn’t be true? There were wrong ways to run it when the only play on the books was the Single Wing.

  55. expatpatfan says: Aug 29, 2011 12:56 PM

    No (realistic) Pat fan expected him to be more than a #3 WR–possibly a #4. Despite all the talk the Pats get about running multiple sets, they used a ton of heavy (2 TE) formations last year, so the #4 WR didn’t see many snaps. I don’t expect great things from Ocho, but I also don’t think great things are needed for the Pats to do well.

  56. Deb says: Aug 29, 2011 1:05 PM

    steelernationlolzatyouremptytrophycase6 says:

    Don’t look at us. We don’t want this clown. Our standards are way too high. 6
    ————————————————-

    Speaking as a Steelers fan … who was looking at us? Who said anything about us regarding Ochocinco? This story has nothing to do with us. No wonder people think our fans are obnoxious. Give it a rest. :roll:

  57. Deb says: Aug 29, 2011 1:09 PM

    @Pats fans …

    What seems to be the problem with Chad? I’ve never been a fan of his, but he’s a talented receiver, he works hard, and I know it means everything to him to be part of team that’s got a serious chance to contend. Do the Pats run a significantly different offense from the Bengals? I really thought he’d fit in pretty well. This surprises me.

  58. beelicker says: Aug 29, 2011 1:30 PM

    >>> Ocho going from 9 years of Bob Bratkowski’s offense to the Patriots is like going from college to the NFL <<<

    Actually, one of the problems with Boob Bratkowski's offense was that it was arguably TOO complex & that was one of the reasons he came to fail more at the end, because they couldn't make adjustments easily even after all that time in the same scheme, which led to it becoming far TOO predictable.

    Also ironically enough, even though it was the only NFL scheme he ever knew, #85 always displayed the maddening tendency to average (even last season) what seemed like maybe 2 false starts every 3 games or so (and from WR!) , not to mention his rampant freelancing in a precision either/or read & throw TO SPOTS accordingly & which leads to high INT totals because of it … basically because the opposing Ds (especially in division) were more disciplined to go to those spots based on the same keys.

    He should have changed his name to something more reflective of these habitual gaffes, like maybe "ChicoZeppo"?

    Strange but true!

  59. Vegas Guy says: Aug 29, 2011 1:33 PM

    Big Fish (Ocho) – Little Pond (Cincy)

    now is..

    Little Fish (Ocho) – Big Pond (New England)

    If you have any little bit of talent you’ll look like a star if you play in Cincy because you’re that far above the mediocre talent that stays there.

  60. 1historian says: Aug 29, 2011 2:45 PM

    Good luck OC – ignore the haters. they know who they are.

  61. bray72 says: Aug 29, 2011 3:36 PM

    Well said Deb!
    That guy is a complete embarrasment to the many good and decent Steeler fans. Just as bad as all the Ben posters who malign a guy who made some mistakes (and is steadily rectifying them)and is just like the same young mistake prone players EVERY team has.
    And just a perspective to the hater who asked how the steelers liked their runner up position – probably better than the 30 teams that only wished they were there.

  62. enders9 says: Aug 29, 2011 3:49 PM

    itsmebobd says: Aug 29, 2011 12:36 PM

    This does not surprise me at all. This clown has been thinking it was everyone around him who was the problem for the past 4 years, meanwhile it was him focusing on his reality shows, twitter, and pathetic OCNN. I loved chad in 2006 and years prior, the guy backed up his smack talk. But he got old, lost a step, and to be honest once TJ Houshmandzadeh and Chris Henry weren’t there to take away some heat in the passing game, he flopped. Great Receivers excel no matter what. Who does Andre Johnson have to take the heat off him? Nobody, yet he always looks amazing. Larry Fitzgerald still looks great without anquan boldin. Not to mention, chad quit showing up for the voluntary minicamps, once he did this, he went down hill. I was calling for chad to be traded to the redskins for 2 first rounders, Chris Henry wasnt gone (RIP) yet and we had other options, not to mention could have easily bolstered the defensive line and WR position with the picks. Instead we wait until hes worth nothing and trade him to the patriots. Looks like for once, Mike Brown got the better of Bill Belichick. Never EVER thought i’d say that, but chad isnt worth a cardboard cutout and a $20 chipotle giftcard, let alone a 5th and 6th rounder. WHODEY

    ————————————————-

    Chad brings out the idiot in all the haters, and this is a perfect example of that. Chad was a stud before Chris Henry was ever on the team and before anyone even knew who Houshmandzadeh was. And it’s impossible for Mike Brown to get the better of anyone.

  63. CKL says: Aug 29, 2011 6:02 PM

    @ Deb,
    I tried to explain and I think you can guess what happened over and over. Last post notifying you about what happened got the axe too so I’ll try again.
    Routes had numbers in Cincinnati and words in NE and the learning curve was already a challenge with the short offseason. Chad seems to realize that he has to fit into the Pats instead of the other way so for now I will withhold judgment on whether this will work or not.

  64. icanthelpitimabengalsfan says: Aug 29, 2011 7:49 PM

    1historian says: Aug 29, 2011 2:45 PM

    Good luck OC – ignore the haters. they know who they are.

    Very high quality post…this is a discussion board..can’t you come up with something of substance to add to the conversation?

  65. Deb says: Aug 29, 2011 8:43 PM

    @CKL …

    Thanks for the info and the persistence. This situation is beyond asinine. They throw tantrums and limit word counts to a sentence, kill intelligent football posts from people like you but leave the porn jokes. Cheetah runs the jungle here. At least there’s sanity on the college side.

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