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Peter King discusses whether Ndamukong Suh is a dirty player

Another weekend, another possible fine for Ndamukong Suh.

SI’s Peter King joined PFT Live on Monday to discuss whether he thinks Suh is a dirty player.

“I don’t think he’s dirty. He’s just aggressive,” King said. “I just think he’s learning right now there’s a fine line in the NFL between aggression and going over the line. I think it’s something that he has to learn.”

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41 Responses to “Peter King discusses whether Ndamukong Suh is a dirty player”
  1. profootballwalk says: Aug 29, 2011 4:44 PM

    Punching a guy from behind? That’s just aggressive.

  2. Soulman45 says: Aug 29, 2011 4:46 PM

    This is football.

  3. thekiy says: Aug 29, 2011 4:47 PM

    What possible fine? The league hasn’t even said they are investigating anything and he wasn’t flagged.

    If anything, the fine is coming for Mankins who was trying to rip Lawrence Jackson’s head off by his facemask.

    Of course, you won’t mention that because it doesn’t fit your ‘Suh is dirty’ crusade.

  4. gregjennings85 says: Aug 29, 2011 4:48 PM

    Suspend him for weeks 12 and 17.

    Sincerely,

    -A Packers fan

  5. cakemixa says: Aug 29, 2011 4:50 PM

    What if it were Haynesworth, or another “bad guy / unlikable” guy doing it? What would the media say then?

  6. capslockkey says: Aug 29, 2011 4:51 PM

    When offensive players quit trying to break and wiggle out of tackles, then defensive players will quit trying to throw them to the ground. The fine for the Dalton TACKLE is complete BS. Maybe if he had just went to the ground when he was wrapped up rather than fighting to stay on his feet the slam wouldn’t have been necessary.

  7. castleofcheese says: Aug 29, 2011 4:52 PM

    @soulman

    That was fun to watch. Man, he was a beast.

  8. profootballwalk says: Aug 29, 2011 4:53 PM

    PK wants to get interviews with Suh in the future – he can’t badmouth him now.

  9. benh999 says: Aug 29, 2011 5:00 PM

    Just because the guy is likable does mean he does not play dirty. Is he actually worse than the notorious dirty players like Rodney Harrison (keeping in mind he only has one regular season under his belt so far) or Jack Tatum?

    Grabbing a QB buy the head and throwing him to the turf is above and beyond aggressive.

  10. scudbot says: Aug 29, 2011 5:01 PM

    Someone once said “Discretion is the better part of valor.” Shooting off your mouth, Twitter account or Facebook page at the league at every opportunity is stupid and will be self-destructive.

  11. docboss says: Aug 29, 2011 5:06 PM

    Before everyone starts jumping on the bandwagon and declaring a league conspiracy against Suh, remember that this is a quarterback driven league. How about the “Brady Rule” penalizing defensive players for “going at the legs” of the quarterback. The rule did not exist until Tom blew a knee on an incidental and legal hit. The league will protect the stars. I am surprised there was no huge fine for hitting Brady. I am sure the league is on guard. If Suh threatens to damage Rogers, Manning, Bradford, Brees, etc., whether it is “legal” or not, he will be punished severely. He just has to watch it with regard to the league’s marketable stars.

  12. drgfri says: Aug 29, 2011 5:07 PM

    They are just mad that a great player like this could end up on the Lions. He speaks elequently too, so they can’t demonize him as a punk. I love watching him….. this is what the NFL used to be about…. tough, physical football.

  13. gvicknair says: Aug 29, 2011 5:11 PM

    He plays old school ball. Unfortunately, it isn’t allowed anymore.

  14. polegojim says: Aug 29, 2011 5:15 PM

    Amen Peter, AMEN

  15. lioneyz says: Aug 29, 2011 5:30 PM

    A Haynesworth comparison? REALLY? That is RICH! Hmmm, Suh has a degree in engineering and is a very well spoken individual. Have you given Albert a good listen in between him spitting on or assaulting women? Suh has done more in ONE year for multiple communities and schools than Albert has done in his grossly overpaid career.

  16. bigbrad184 says: Aug 29, 2011 5:35 PM

    Yes, Peter King, there is a line there. And Suh has crossed it. Habitually. He’s a habitual line-stepper.

  17. buzzbissinger says: Aug 29, 2011 5:35 PM

    You guys are all soft. If overpowering guys with pure strength and size is agressive, then it’s time to start watching soccer.

  18. purpleisreallypinkyouknow says: Aug 29, 2011 5:51 PM

    Does anyone give 2 $hits what Peter King really thinks anyway…? This guy is more irrelevant than Chris Berman and almost twice as annoying.
    He’s probably at this moment, camping outside of Favre’s compound in Hick, MS waiting for an unretirement update, some more pecker pics, or both.

    I’ll give Suh the props because he’s an absolute beast, but you have to learn to play within the rules…simple as that.

  19. Soulman45 says: Aug 29, 2011 5:53 PM

    @castleofcheese
    Thank you it was good.

  20. turtlefox1 says: Aug 29, 2011 5:58 PM

    @soulman 45 – loved the vid – notice how Reggie does what it takes to sack the quarterback – nothing more

  21. ocdn says: Aug 29, 2011 6:06 PM

    What part of “coming to your teammates defense” is not seen by the people who call him “dirty”? Mankins had Jackson’s facemask with his hand and was dragging him by it. Suh came to Jackson’s aid and shoved Mankins back telling him, “you mess with him, you mess with me and the rest of the defense”.
    Suh should get a raise.

  22. ocdn says: Aug 29, 2011 6:16 PM

    @ thekiy

    I posted before i read your comments……2 thumbs up!

  23. wetpaperbag2 says: Aug 29, 2011 6:19 PM

    capslockkey says: Aug 29, 2011 4:51 PM

    When offensive players quit trying to break and wiggle out of tackles, then defensive players will quit trying to throw them to the ground. The fine for the Dalton TACKLE is complete BS. Maybe if he had just went to the ground when he was wrapped up rather than fighting to stay on his feet the slam wouldn’t have been necessary.
    ——————————–

    Then you would be the first to say that Dalton is a wimp and scary little b***h of a QB to go down the second Suh touches him.

    Just because one CAN do something, doesn’t always mean that they SHOULD do something. Just because he can throw a QB to the ground like a rag doll, doesn’t mean that he should.

  24. damnskins703 says: Aug 29, 2011 6:22 PM

    Fine somebody for playing football hard and the way its supposed to be played really… Goodell your a LLS and you know nothing about the game of football you need to be a commisioner in pre wee football not the NFL you are ruining it fast

  25. sws222 says: Aug 29, 2011 6:22 PM

    I can’t believe some of these comments (probably mostly by Bears fans who see how they don’t have the Lions to kick around anymore and upset Pariah Patriots fans who are used to the other team laying down for them……) Suh has had arguably 2 tackles in 23 games that could be termed “over the line”. What a bunch of crybabies! Get used to it…….there’s a new Lions team in town….and they’re not taking your crap anymore!

  26. depotnator says: Aug 29, 2011 6:23 PM

    How much is this site going to milk this topic? I guess PFT noticed all the comments from Lions fans, and has just run with it.

  27. kennyrogerschicken says: Aug 29, 2011 6:24 PM

    I’m currently discussing whether Peter King is fat.

  28. phuckyouall says: Aug 29, 2011 6:36 PM

    What everyone needs to realize and start accepting is that this i no longer the NFL that it used to be. Everything is player safety, player safety blah blah. It is also a more Offense driven league.

    Is Suh a dirty player? I don’t think so. Does he need to tone it down? Yes. There are plays where you can blow up the QB without body slamming him or trying to rip his helmet off. I would not want to be a defensive player in the league. I am not even sure where you are supposed to hit guys anymore.

    With that being said, some of the actions I have seem him do such as diving helmet first at a QB who is already wrapped up and going to the ground, is uncalled for. But hey, I guess it gives Lions fans something to cheer for finally. Let’s just not put them in the Super Bowl yet.

  29. kchoya says: Aug 29, 2011 6:45 PM

    We will see if he gets a fine:

    [Suh] said he had a “great talk about the play with the referee who was right there.”

    “He said in the future, I should let them handle those situations, but that he understood exactly what I was trying to do,” [Suh] said.

  30. glowingstone says: Aug 29, 2011 6:48 PM

    I’ll be more interested in this when I start hearing other *players* calling him “dirty.”

  31. schmitty2 says: Aug 29, 2011 6:54 PM

    I wouldnt mind Suh sacking Peter, just saying

  32. jimr10 says: Aug 29, 2011 7:06 PM

    lioneyz…….
    he was not compared to Haynesworth. He said, what if it had been Hayneswortht that did it. Your reading comprehension skills need some work.

  33. steelerhypocrite says: Aug 29, 2011 7:09 PM

    What’s worse, being a questionable “dirty” player or a bunch of cheating scumbags like the Patriots? We all the know the answer…

  34. woodyg says: Aug 29, 2011 7:18 PM

    Ya, throwing a punch is not dirty at all ……
    Someone needs to remind the ‘boy named Suh’ that there are cameras all over the place ….. You just can’t get away with breaking the rules by calling it something other than “dirty” …..

    I’m going to enjoy it when Lion Fans start turning on Suh when his ‘aggressive play’ starts costing games ……. It will happen.

  35. vikescry1 says: Aug 29, 2011 7:22 PM

    as a packers fans i like suh, and the way he play’s. i don’t believe he is dirty. i think the league does have to protect defenseless players, but really i love to see a qb get destroyed( except my own) if i’m being honest. so play on suh (p.s.) hope you enjoyed the pie rodgers momma baked for you….

  36. simplesimon1 says: Aug 29, 2011 7:32 PM

    Once again. If he’s dirty then every player in the NFL that plays in the trenches also is dirty. He didn’t do anything wrong at all towards Mankins in that game. Who was the penalty on? That’s what I thought. People on here are trying to say that if their team had a player being manhandled by Mankins and throwing him around by his facemask nobody on their team would come to the rescue. BS

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Find me any one player, coach, GM, HOFer, etc, or anybody that has actually played the game, and find me any single, solitary quote of that person saying they think Suh is dirty. Not even Dalton or Delhomme, the only two guys ever to have a proper bone to pick with Suh, have ever had anything to say. The closest it ever gets is journalists that never played the game, bloggers on PFT that are upset he’s not on their team, and a quiet statement from Dungy that he has to change slightly.

  37. sullijo1 says: Aug 29, 2011 7:40 PM

    People should watch the cheap shot Robert Gallery put on Broderick Bunkley before judging N. Suh.

    Gallery is probably just frustrated because his QB and Team stinks. Or, because he is not a very good football player. So, I guess we have to cut him some slack…..

  38. theglobalbrief says: Aug 29, 2011 8:02 PM

    bottom line is…anyone trying to falsely portray suh as a dirty player would want him on their team if they were a head coach. i’m sure he wouldn’t be so “dirty” than. losers

  39. woodyg says: Aug 29, 2011 8:51 PM

    theglobalbrief says:
    Aug 29, 2011 8:02 PM
    bottom line is…anyone trying to falsely portray suh as a dirty player would want him on their team if they were a head coach. i’m sure he wouldn’t be so “dirty” than. losers

    ___________

    I’d rather have BJ Raji anyday before the “boy named Suh” ……. BJ is a disciplined player that is a force on the DL ….. He plays within the team concept & won’t commit that 15-yarder for ‘dirty play’ to cost the game …… He lets his play do the talking ……. ……… Suh just can’t seem to shut-up.

  40. kcflake says: Aug 29, 2011 9:02 PM

    every football fan would love to have suh on their team. do not think he needs to slam qb’s on their head though. if suh is so intelligent, then he should know that.

  41. deltanovembertoronto says: Aug 29, 2011 10:16 PM

    How come nobody made a big deal about the ‘nobody’ from the chiefs that rolled into Tom Bradys knee?? Exactly because he is a nobody. Suh is making plays and is dominating… People are just hating just like they were hating on Harrison.

    This is football, chess not checkers!

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