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Vick’s contract contains no extra conduct language

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We won’t be able to evaluate the financial aspects of Michael Vick’s new deal until we see the fine print.

That hasn’t happened yet, but we have learned an interesting nugget.  Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports and Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer note that there is no “extra” conduct stipulations in Vick’s contract. The language is standard.

Florio points out that the Eagles may not have been allowed to include such language anyhow. The real protection for the Eagles could arrive with the contract structure. Will it be easy for the Eagles to get out of the contract after, say, two years?

It didn’t take long for some folks in Philadelphia to wonder if the new contract will allow Vick to take his foot off the gas pedal.

“Now the deal is done and [Vick] has 100 million temptations to go right back to his old ways.  . . . Now that the deal is done, we’ll start to learn whether Vick really has changed or whether he has acted the part just long enough to regain what he lost,” Phil Sheridan of the Philadelphia Inquirer writes.

This sounds over-the-top, but it’s a fair enough point to raise considering Vick’s past. We suspect the Eagles structured the contract in such a way that Vick will have plenty of motivation to stay near the NFL’s mountain top.

UPDATE: Florio had his say on the Vick contract on PFT Live.

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80 Responses to “Vick’s contract contains no extra conduct language”
  1. MichaelEdits says: Aug 30, 2011 10:04 AM

    Ten million dollars is a lot of Milk Bones.

  2. descendency says: Aug 30, 2011 10:08 AM

    Everyone wants to talk about his dog fighting. I’m fine with leaving that in the past.

    What I want to know about is his work ethic and his dedication to becoming a better passer and better at reading defenses.

    He has 100 million reasons to leave that part of his past in the past and I’m wondering if he’s changed like that more. Is this Mike Vick, the guy who shows up when he has to, or Mike Vick, the guy who shows up to be nothing but the best.

  3. jacunn2000 says: Aug 30, 2011 10:10 AM

    He has paid his dues, but I think this is a mistake. They traded the wrong guy. Kolb is going to last longer in this league. Vick is Vick. And if you think going to prison has made him see the error of his ways, you are just wrong. His only regret is that he got caught. But hey, he served his time and this is America, so best of luck Mike.

  4. sj39 says: Aug 30, 2011 10:12 AM

    Can’t wait to sic the Rams defense on this POS on opening day.

  5. 240volts says: Aug 30, 2011 10:16 AM

    2010—”We love him and see him as the future of the franchise”. The Eagles after signing Kevin Kolb to a 12.25 million dollar extension.

    2011—”We love him and see him as the future of the franchise” The Eagles after signing Mike Vick to a $100 million contract extension.

    2012—”We love him and see him as the future of the franchise”. The Eagles after signing Vince Young to a long term contract extension.

  6. laeaglefan says: Aug 30, 2011 10:17 AM

    “His only regret is that he got caught”

    That is probably true of almost every criminal. So Vick is not unique in that respect. But he’s paid the price for his crimes and deserves to get on with his life and career.

    Whether the Eagles would have been better off keeping Kolb is something that only time will tell. But its obvious to me that Andy Reid felt that the Eagles have a better chance of winning a Super Bowl with Vick as his QB. We shall see.

  7. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    Mike Vick, the guy who shows up to be nothing but the best.

    ——————————————————————-

    When was he EVER that? Isn’t this the guy who couldn’t be bothered to show up at all of the off-season workouts that HE scheduled?

  8. lexnekst says: Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    There shouldn’t be any clause in his contract. Is there going to be a “no-rape clause” in Roethlisberger’s next deal. I’m pretty sure Vick’s not trying to lose $100 Million, again.

    DO WHAT YO DO MIKE VICK!

  9. svcfilmguy says: Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    I don’t get it. He faded at the end of the season and has a highly questionable past. They didn’t need the cap relief, so why not make him play out the year and see what happens?

  10. lexnekst says: Aug 30, 2011 10:21 AM

    jacunn2000 says:
    Aug 30, 2011 10:10 AM
    He has paid his dues, but I think this is a mistake. They traded the wrong guy. Kolb is going to last longer in this league.

    ——————————————————-

    Yeah, Kolb might last longer- Easy to do when you spend your first 4 seasons on the bench.

  11. bdert says: Aug 30, 2011 10:22 AM

    This lets me know th@ there is true redemption in a cold world…not really…Kolb could never generate the revenue th@ a Michael Vick does…This was solely a business decision on the part of the Eagles…one word “Prophet”

  12. falconsfan says: Aug 30, 2011 10:23 AM

    Remember when the Falcons signed Vick for 10 years $130 Million…. how did that work out?

    Let’s hope the Eagles get a better deal out of their contract .

    At least now those creditors that Vick still owes money to will be able to become whole again.

  13. twitter:Chapman_Jamie says: Aug 30, 2011 10:25 AM

    The true test will be when his probation is over…

  14. berniemadoffsides says: Aug 30, 2011 10:30 AM

    I’m thrilled with this signing as a Giants fan. Good luck keeping this guy on the field consistently for 3-4 years (He won’t be there past 2014 w/ that contract) while going up against our pass rush of Tuck/JPP/Osi/Kiwi, DeMarcus Ware, and Orakpo twice a year.

    Philly better hope Vince Young can get the job done 3-6 times/year, because Vick’s going to get knocked out at least once this season. I never wish any harm on any NFL QB, but I’ll always want to see Vick carried out on a stretcher for doing what he did to those dogs.

  15. itsmammoth says: Aug 30, 2011 10:33 AM

    I’m sorry, but someone who can drown dogs and electrocute them by hand is messed up in the head. I think it would take yeeeeaaarrsss to fix that in a person. With that said, Michael Vick was absolutely incredible last year.. I don’t know exactly how to look at it all anymore. All Vick is to me…. is a bad person for what he did, and a fantasy football monster. Only time will tell.

  16. terripet says: Aug 30, 2011 10:34 AM

    the eagles will regret this contract

  17. 240volts says: Aug 30, 2011 10:34 AM

    lexnekst says: Aug 30, 2011 10:21 AM

    Yeah, Kolb might last longer- Easy to do when you spend your first 4 seasons on the bench….

    ————————-

    Worked out great for the Packers and Aaron Rodgers.

  18. jnks10 says: Aug 30, 2011 10:38 AM

    svcfilmguy says:
    Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM
    I don’t get it. He faded at the end of the season and has a highly questionable past. They didn’t need the cap relief, so why not make him play out the year and see what happens?

    ————

    Signing him to this deal created about 2 million dollars of cap relief. Also he started to struggle when everyone started blitzing him. The league knows that but so does Vick (who has 1 bad pass away from beatin the super bowl champion packers in the first round of the playoffs.) If he can understand how to recognize the blitz that 6 year contact will work out just fine, well it will to everyone but the haters.

  19. udwnwitjpp says: Aug 30, 2011 10:39 AM

    After week three da eagles will regret it wen he’s lost for season tuck n osi will punish him

  20. mykelane says: Aug 30, 2011 10:45 AM

    falconsfan says:
    Aug 30, 2011 10:23 AM
    Remember when the Falcons signed Vick for 10 years $130 Million…. how did that work out?

    ——–
    I cant remember the weapons he had around him during that time.. a better comparison IMO would be McNabb’s 12 Yr $115M extention..

  21. dgreenfi says: Aug 30, 2011 10:45 AM

    I believe Vick is on a court ordered budget until 2015, so I don’t think this money will go to his head or his wallet.

  22. jacunn2000 says: Aug 30, 2011 10:49 AM

    @240volts – Bravo!

  23. lbdpatch says: Aug 30, 2011 10:49 AM

    OMG. wake up giant fans this guy came back from a three touchdown deficit and our 5 ft 8 little receiver ran through the giants defense like it it wasn’t even there to spank you guys. stop hating because you way over paid the wrong manning brother. Eli can’t hold Vicks Jock. Oh by the way OSI doesn’t even want to play In NY and one of your best receivers even woke up and went to a better team. Jealously sucks. GO EAGLES

  24. alexnexus says: Aug 30, 2011 10:54 AM

    “Now that the deal is done, we’ll start to learn whether Vick really has changed or whether he has acted the part just long enough to regain what he lost”

    Who is “we”?
    This journalist is probably referring to the media.

    The other “we”, the fans, we are witnesses of Vick’s change. We see it on the field and, more important, we hear it on the interviews.

    For us -for me-, Vick has change. The question here is: has the media become less gossipy, and more professional?

  25. greenbirdbacker says: Aug 30, 2011 10:56 AM

    It didn’t long for some folks in Philadelphia to wonder if the new contract will allow Vick to take his foot off the gas pedal.

    ————————-
    TAKE long…It didn’t TAKE long….

    I long for the day when i can visit this site and not find a typo.

  26. voiceofrealism says: Aug 30, 2011 10:56 AM

    This is going to end so badly for the eagles and Vick.

  27. thehouseofho says: Aug 30, 2011 10:56 AM

    I’m not sure why there would be extra conduct language. I don’t really know Vick’s history, but I’ve never heard one word about him getting into trouble outside of the dog fighting incident. Based on that knowledge, admittedly it’s more of a lack of knowledge, it doesn’t seem like he’s ever had a habit of conducting himself in a detrimental manner. So why should there be language in his contract dictating conduct?

  28. muttbolts says: Aug 30, 2011 10:59 AM

    This guy is a tool. If any normal person did that we would still be in prison.

  29. scudbot says: Aug 30, 2011 11:00 AM

    A huge contract for a 31 yr old QB who can’t anticipate D schemes well, isn’t a great pocket passer and gets injured every year. But no worries. Vince Young and his 150 yds/game production will step in until he has to be put in a straitjacket.

  30. ochoverated says: Aug 30, 2011 11:03 AM

    lexnekst says: Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    There shouldn’t be any clause in his contract. Is there going to be a “no-rape clause” in Roethlisberger’s next deal. I’m pretty sure Vick’s not trying to lose $100 Million, again.

    DO WHAT YO DO MIKE VICK!

    ——————————————————
    Was Ben arrested or convicted for rape?
    The answer is no, how ever i realize we live in a media driven “your guilty” first society. Witch is quite sick and the problem with the media and people today.

  31. lbdpatch says: Aug 30, 2011 11:08 AM

    Hey knucklehead was OJ and Casey Anthony Convicted of murder but we all know they are 100% guilty. Atleast Vick paid his dues.
    GO EAGLES

  32. bigbwoy000 says: Aug 30, 2011 11:13 AM

    Vick’s sterling behavior over the last 2 years has been to receive this kind of contract again. He now has it & there is no reason to keep up his façade. It has been about the money, plain & simple. This move will comeback & bite Philly right in the rear end.

    Last time this guy had big contracts, he bought property on 1915 Moonlight Road & opened a torture shop for innocent creatures. His entertainment (multiple times a week for 6 years) was to sit in bloody dog fighting pits, smoke blunts & abuse underperforming animals in some of the most heinous ways possible. When he underperformed in big games he gave fans the finger in his own stadium. He, without regard for other humans, infected others with incurable sexual disease.

    Although the Vick fans refuse to believe it, past history is a very good indicator of future behavior & 18 months in jail doesn’t cure the type of sickness involved with cruelly torturing animals with ones bare hands for amusement. Taking into consideration his recent words & his ingrained sense of entitlement, now that the money is back, it won’t be long before the “real” Mike Vick shows himself once again.

  33. rjwill says: Aug 30, 2011 11:16 AM

    I’ve been saying what Sheridon said since my Eagles signed Vick- when he gets his big money contract we will find out if the “new Mike Vick” is real. Here’s hoping he is a changed man. Good luck Mike.

  34. jammer88 says: Aug 30, 2011 11:16 AM

    ochoverated says:
    Aug 30, 2011 11:03 AM
    lexnekst says: Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    There shouldn’t be any clause in his contract. Is there going to be a “no-rape clause” in Roethlisberger’s next deal. I’m pretty sure Vick’s not trying to lose $100 Million, again.

    DO WHAT YO DO MIKE VICK!

    ———————————–

    so ochoverated says “DO WHAT YO DO MIKE VICK! I wouldn’t say that too loud overated because if you do every dog here in the states will run and hide.

  35. backuppunter says: Aug 30, 2011 11:20 AM

    I think the eagles are too smart to not have it worked in that they can get out fairly easy after 2 or 3 years. I have no doubts about Vick keeping his nose clean at this point. He is older and wiser now, doesn’t want to go back to jail, doesn’t want to lose his money. But how good is Vick really going to be over the long hall, and will he stay healthy? that sure seems questionable to me at this point

  36. thefirstsmilergrogan says: Aug 30, 2011 11:22 AM

    it has been reported that the deal is not backloaded. we also know that vick will count 14+M on the cap this year. so there’s a good possibility that the eagles are on a pay as you go deal where there is a relatively modest signing bonus prorated over 6 yrs with the rest of the years being paid as they occur.

    if the signing bonus is 12M (prorated at 2M/yr), and the average of the contract is 16+ per year, the real questions are exactly how much money is guaranteed and for what; and how that money is structured.

    my guess is the team is probably financially committed to at least three years, at which time they could either part ways without too much dead money, or determine the salaries for the out years are palatable and don’t hamstring the rest of the roster.

    if they now extend desean, they have the team in order prior to opening day. whether all the machinations result in wins will be seen. it should be fun to watch…

  37. lbdpatch says: Aug 30, 2011 11:24 AM

    Get over this dog thing 99% of the world has. He paid his dues, probably spanked your team last year that why you are so jealous.

  38. tombradyswig says: Aug 30, 2011 11:31 AM

    Eli still sux horribly!

  39. orakpownd says: Aug 30, 2011 11:32 AM

    How are those ribs Mike?

    Keep sleeping.

  40. pigskinswag says: Aug 30, 2011 11:33 AM

    All these people still making “dog jokes” and “dog comments” about Michael Vick should all just go get a life. I’m not a Vick fan (mainly because he was once a Falcon and my Saints fandom will not permit me to like anyone who once wore enemy colors), but the whole dog references are way beyond stale. If you’re the special kind of stupid who thinks that Vick shouldn’t be playing in the NFL after what he did, consider this: former Rams DE Leonard Little killed a WOMAN after driving home drunk, and kept on playing. He killled a PERSON.

  41. cburke9 says: Aug 30, 2011 11:44 AM

    ochoverated says:
    Was Ben arrested or convicted for rape?
    The answer is no, how ever i realize we live in a media driven “your guilty” first society. Witch is quite sick and the problem with the media and people today.
    —————————————–

    good point. i have a good nanny for you, her name is casey. im pretty sure shes free so give her a call whenver.

  42. kingjoe1 says: Aug 30, 2011 12:10 PM

    he got himself some serious kibble.

    agree with Pigskinwag however, Stallworth and Little both killed a person…and then there is Ray Lewis…

  43. jakek2 says: Aug 30, 2011 12:13 PM

    lbd – Eli don’t want to hold Vick’s jock. It might get his SBMVP ring dirty. And we all get that your team pulled off Miracle II. However, like all year’s past when you beat us, that game was YOUR super bowl.

    Get ready for yet ANOTHER letdown by the Dream-On Team.

  44. jakek2 says: Aug 30, 2011 12:16 PM

    No doubt Vick will choke down the throttle now. He’ll do just enough to make it through this 100M contract. And…I can’t blame him.

  45. MVQB7 says: Aug 30, 2011 12:17 PM

    “Cannot wait to sic the Rams defense on him” ? OMG that is funny ! More like he will make goat cheese of them lol

  46. pigskinswag says: Aug 30, 2011 12:23 PM

    agree with Pigskinwag however, Stallworth and Little both killed a person…and then there is Ray Lewis…
    ___________________________________

    Exactly! You can kill a MAN or a WOMAN and we can all forgive and forget, but if you kill Fido or Spot you’re bad candy. Seems like we have our priorities all effed up.

  47. realitypolice says: Aug 30, 2011 12:24 PM

    thehouseofho says:
    Aug 30, 2011 10:56 AM
    I’m not sure why there would be extra conduct language. I don’t really know Vick’s history, but I’ve never heard one word about him getting into trouble outside of the dog fighting incident.
    ========================
    Oh my Lord, please tell me you’re joking.

    You never heard one word about him:

    -Failing a drug test while out on bail?

    -Being accused of knowingly giving Herpes to women and checking into clinics under an alias (Ron Mexico) ?

    -being accused of stealing a watch while going through an airport security line?

    -being accused of stealing millions from his business partners?

    -being accused of attempting to hide assets to defraud creditors during his bankruptcy?

    -flipping a double bird at his own fans after a loss in 2006?

    -being detained at an airport for being in possession of water bottle with a secret compartment commonly used for storing drugs?

    You need to get out more.

    -

  48. skoobyfl says: Aug 30, 2011 12:29 PM

    They starve the people without criminal records to the point they need to steal & pay the criminals king’s ransoms after serving time for the crime.

    Only in America.

  49. drew05 says: Aug 30, 2011 12:29 PM

    I am an Iggles fan…

    I am glad for Mike Vick, the person…he seems to have “found a better path”…

    As for the football side…

    Vick has issues reading D’s…
    issues with being able to see…(he’s too short)
    issues with trusting his offense…3 step drops, ball NEVER comes out…

    I just hope, as a fan…his atheletic prowess remains for the duration of the contract (the part the Iggs’ll need to honor)

    Best athelete ever to play the position…

    Nerve-racking to watch, but Oh-my-god explosive.

    Good luck, Mike Vick.

  50. nflofficeadmin says: Aug 30, 2011 12:39 PM

    Only in America.

  51. The Shoeman says: Aug 30, 2011 12:39 PM

    melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    Mike Vick, the guy who shows up to be nothing but the best.
    —————————————————————-
    When was he EVER that? Isn’t this the guy who couldn’t be bothered to show up at all of the off-season workouts that HE scheduled?

    ***********************************************************

    Uh NO ! . . .

    Another idiotic comment !

    The one stat that defined the change in Vick’s game last year was his completion percentage.

    He displayed a level of accuracy that he simply never had before.

    His previous season high as far as completion percentage was 56.4%, while last year it was 62.6%.

    That is the sixth biggest increase over a previous season’s best completion percentage since the merger, with the others being Steve Bartkowski, Jim Hart, David Carr, Archie Manning & Jim Plunkett.

    as or better then the best in history !!

    NOT – ROMO / BECK / ELI / RODGERS /ETC.

  52. dirtdawg55 says: Aug 30, 2011 12:39 PM

    How is it over the top to suggest Vick has been acting the part up until now and that now that he has a huge contract we will see whether he truly has changed?

    Philly fans are a bunch of sheep, so desperate for a SB they are willing to believe Vick has changed his ways. And maybe he has, but it has been a pretty quick tale of redemption for Mr. Vick. Lets not forget he was a gangsta clown even before the dog fighting.

    Did some hard time knock some sense into him? One can only hope so, but to suggest it might not have is not some whacky proposition. It is a fair question.

  53. FinFan68 says: Aug 30, 2011 12:41 PM

    Vick is an exciting player. He runs very well and he has a cannon. A simple flick of his wrist sends the ball zipping downfield. He also has a hard time figuring defense out and his style is reckless to the point where injury is a matter of when, not if. He is also a con-man. He did some heinous things and went to jail. Fine, he did his time. It is possible that he has changed his core beliefs and altered his life for the better. It is also possible that he is just doing what he needs to do in order to get paid again. Which one is it? None of the “haters” or the “apologists/worshipers” knows. The Eagles are gambling that it is the former. That is a gamble I would not have made, especially without any safety net for his potential issue to be banned (not suspended)

  54. wyobroncoboy says: Aug 30, 2011 12:42 PM

    “This lets me know th@ there is true redemption in a cold world…not really…Kolb could never generate the revenue th@ a Michael Vick does…This was solely a business decision on the part of the Eagles…one word “Prophet””

    I’m gonna take a Prophetic guess that you might have meant “Profit”.

    A Prophetic Filly Profiteering Prophet??

  55. drew05 says: Aug 30, 2011 12:44 PM

    The Iggs know they need a back-up plan.

    Hopefully vince Young can do it.

    I kinda like Kafka, he’s smart enough…

    Just…the noodle…he is smart enough.

  56. ochoverated says: Aug 30, 2011 1:04 PM

    jammer88 says: Aug 30, 2011 11:16 AM

    ochoverated says:
    Aug 30, 2011 11:03 AM
    lexnekst says: Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM

    There shouldn’t be any clause in his contract. Is there going to be a “no-rape clause” in Roethlisberger’s next deal. I’m pretty sure Vick’s not trying to lose $100 Million, again.

    DO WHAT YO DO MIKE VICK!

    ———————————–

    so ochoverated says “DO WHAT YO DO MIKE VICK! I wouldn’t say that too loud overated because if you do every dog here in the states will run and hide.
    ————————————————–
    No ochoverrated DIDN”T say that

    lexnekst says: Aug 30, 2011 10:19 AM
    There shouldn’t be any clause in his contract. Is there going to be a “no-rape clause” in Roethlisberger’s next deal. I’m pretty sure Vick’s not trying to lose $100 Million, again.

    DO WHAT YO DO MIKE VICK!
    pay attention

  57. flapjackdaddy says: Aug 30, 2011 1:05 PM

    Haterz gon hate

  58. dallasux says: Aug 30, 2011 1:05 PM

    berniemadoffsides says :

    I never wish any harm on any NFL QB, but I’ll always want to see Vick carried out on a stretcher for doing what he did to those dogs.

    ————————————————-

    Well than that makes you no better than he was.

  59. bobbyhoying says: Aug 30, 2011 1:14 PM

    Who would you rather spend money on – Albert Haynesworth, Roy Williams or Mike Vick?

  60. The Shoeman says: Aug 30, 2011 1:22 PM

    And yet … all of you “Haters” can remember this one thing:

    Vick – is pretty much THE main reason all those FA’s signed for less money.

    They wanted NO part of your team for more money.

    Translation: NFL players (who play for $$$) would rather be an Eagle with M. Vick . . . then to be on your team for lot’s mo’ $$$.

    Nuff Said ‘ . . . now go moan about your own crappy team.

    go Eagles GO . . .

  61. gallaghedj311 says: Aug 30, 2011 1:35 PM

    Again, 60% of u are simply dumb as hell. Due to the court ordered pay backs fr the people MV owes $ to, he’ll only see 11% of this contract. The rest go to his debtors

  62. oldhamletman says: Aug 30, 2011 1:37 PM

    the Eagles will regret the day they signed a no clause big deal with someone who showed a flash of brilliance..

    just like the Raiders with JaMarcus…
    and everyone with Haynesworth…

    Vick could prove us wrong….

    …, but the trend the NFL has of bending over for these clowns and then getting taken is very frustrating for us fans that work hard for our money then pay $300 to take our family to one game.

  63. geo1113 says: Aug 30, 2011 2:02 PM

    jakek2 says:
    Aug 30, 2011 12:16 PM
    No doubt Vick will choke down the throttle now. He’ll do just enough to make it through this 100M contract. And…I can’t blame him.
    ________________

    Well, jakek2, you have just told us what kind of guy you are!!!

  64. glac1 says: Aug 30, 2011 2:17 PM

    He’ll blow it.. It’s only a matter of time.

  65. laeaglefan says: Aug 30, 2011 2:24 PM

    “just like the Raiders with JaMarcus…”

    When did JaMarcus EVER show a flash of brilliance as a pro? He was paid all of that money based on what he did in college. Speaking of which, he might even have to go back and finish that degree now that he’s broke, fat and nobody will hire him to play football anymore.

  66. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 3:15 PM

    Vick – is pretty much THE main reason all those FA’s signed for less money.

    —————————————————————-

    Where do you get this fairy tale that any of the free agents the Eagles signed took less money than they could have gotten somewhere else?

  67. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 3:17 PM

    Who would you rather spend money on – Albert Haynesworth, Roy Williams or Mike Vick?

    ———————————————————————-

    This assumes that you have to sign one of them. You don’t have to sign any of them.

  68. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 3:22 PM

    Did some hard time knock some sense into him? One can only hope so, but to suggest it might not have is not some whacky proposition. It is a fair question.

    ————————————————————————-

    That’s true. It’s a simple fact of life that there’s a high recidivism rate for ex-cons.

  69. alaricsrevenge says: Aug 30, 2011 3:34 PM

    pigskinswag says:
    Aug 30, 2011 11:33 AM
    All these people still making “dog jokes” and “dog comments” about Michael Vick should all just go get a life. I’m not a Vick fan (mainly because he was once a Falcon and my Saints fandom will not permit me to like anyone who once wore enemy colors), but the whole dog references are way beyond stale. If you’re the special kind of stupid who thinks that Vick shouldn’t be playing in the NFL after what he did, consider this: former Rams DE Leonard Little killed a WOMAN after driving home drunk, and kept on playing. He killled a PERSON.

    ———————————————–

    Let’s not forget Donte Stallworth, and Ray Lewis too. Plax carries guns and I’m sure that’s a large number of athletes, not just NFL, that would be guilty of infedility, drug use, and other various addictions. But Vick killed dogs so he’s the only one that gets to be hated on. I wonder why, if this was so lucrative a business..the dog fighting that is, that no other NFL athletes were raised as contributors or conspiritors? Do you really believe no one else from the NFL was ever involved in the least bit? Vick was able to hide this from everyone? Someone kept their mouth shut true enough.

  70. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 4:02 PM

    The one stat that defined the change in Vick’s game last year was his completion percentage.

    He displayed a level of accuracy that he simply never had before.

    ———————————————————————

    Shorter passes are higher percentage passes. Last year 230 of Vick’s 372 pass attempts were to points 10 yards or fewer downfield. That’s almost 62% of his attempts. In 2006, that number was 53% so he’s throwing more short passes than before. For passes further than 10 yards downfield last season, Vick’s completion percentage was 48.5%

    Eli Manning’s was 47.8%
    Aaron Rodgers’ was 48.2%
    Romo’s was 52.6%. But it was a short season so if you’d rather go by his 2009 number, it was 49.5%.

    But you probably don’t have the slightest idea what I’m talking about, do you?

    By the way, you’re kind of retarded… no, you are completely retarded for talking about Vick’s increase in completion percentage like it’s some sort of big accomplishment. For starters, Neither Manning nor Rodgers nor Romo ever had a season when they played an appreciable amount of time that saw their completion percentages as low as Vick’s was in 2006 in the first place (52.4%) only Rodgers had a season that was as low as Vick’s 46.2% in 2009. In fact Romo’s completion percentage has never been lower than 61.3%,

    All three had higher completion percentages than Vick did last season.

  71. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 4:05 PM

    Let’s not forget Donte Stallworth, and Ray Lewis too. Plax carries guns and I’m sure that’s a large number of athletes, not just NFL, that would be guilty of infedility, drug use, and other various addictions. But Vick killed dogs so he’s the only one that gets to be hated on.

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    Did you just start reading PFT yesterday? Dude, Tony Romo gets hated on for *playing golf* in the off-season.

  72. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 4:09 PM

    Yeah, Kolb might last longer- Easy to do when you spend your first 4 seasons on the bench.

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    Blame the Eagles for riding the McNabb horse until the legs fell off ,not Kolb. He’ll also last longer than Vick because duh, he’s 27 and Vick is 31.

  73. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 4:12 PM

    I am an Iggles fan…

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    I can tell by the way that you spell “athelete”.

  74. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 4:13 PM

    If he can understand how to recognize the blitz that 6 year contact will work out just fine

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    It’s his 9th season. He’s not going to all of a sudden get smarter.

  75. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 4:17 PM

    The other “we”, the fans, we are witnesses of Vick’s change. We see it on the field and, more important, we hear it on the interviews.

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    I don’t see a difference. On the field, still an average to below average passer. On the mic, still contrite when it serves him. Same stuff I’ve seen since the first time I ever saw him play or heard him speak about whatever his trouble of the month happened to be.

  76. myeaglescantwin says: Aug 30, 2011 4:25 PM

    it’s spelled profit jerko.
    oh wiat,, were you trying to be funny??

    &
    are there giants fans still trying to talk trash??
    your players are bailing on your organization for rivals… shows how bad the taste of NY is.

    and havent any of you fools payed attention to the contracts of present day players.. this contract is a $40 million dollar deal. thats it !! thats all thats guaranteed. . So if there is ANYTHING they dont like, performace or character, they can cut him and only have 40mil invested..
    IF, a big IF Vic plays out the entire 100 million deal, everyone in philly will be smiling cause that means he did something right. so if this is indeed a 100 million dollar deal, i figure we wont be hearing that Super Bowl-less banter anymore.. i hope he gets 6 years of dominance.

  77. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 4:29 PM

    I’m not sure why there would be extra conduct language. I don’t really know Vick’s history, but I’ve never heard one word about him getting into trouble outside of the dog fighting incident. Based on that knowledge, admittedly it’s more of a lack of knowledge, it doesn’t seem like he’s ever had a habit of conducting himself in a detrimental manner.

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    OH LORDY. Wikipedia is your friend. Yes it an be edited by anyone but everything there is true. It’s too extensive to post here. Everything from knowingly giving a woman herpes to testing positive for drugs to bankrolling an interstate gambling ring and killing and torturing animals for fun.

  78. zeussuperman says: Aug 30, 2011 4:34 PM

    ochoverated says: Aug 30, 2011 11:03 AM

    Was Ben arrested or convicted for rape?
    The answer is no, how ever i realize we live in a media driven “your guilty” first society. Witch is quite sick and the problem with the media and people today.

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    Michael Vick was convicted for running an illegal gambling ring, not dogfighting.

    Bet you’re still crucifying him on behalf of the puppies though! Therefore pot… meet kettle.

    What happened doesn’t always = what you’re charged with in court.

  79. zeussuperman says: Aug 30, 2011 4:40 PM

    melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 3:15 PM

    Where do you get this fairy tale that any of the free agents the Eagles signed took less money than they could have gotten somewhere else?

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    Jerry Jones and Rob Ryan’s fist bump might have had something to do with that perception. Also, Ronnie Brown and Cullen Jenkins, Pro Bowlers. But, that’s right, Nnamdi “wanted to go to the Cowboys all along” so the Eagles must have overpaid to get him.

  80. melonnhead says: Aug 30, 2011 5:30 PM

    Jerry Jones and Rob Ryan’s fist bump might have had something to do with that perception.

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    Right, because only Nnamdi is fistbump-worthy.

    “Nnamdi “wanted to go to the Cowboys all along” so the Eagles must have overpaid to get him.”

    At 12 million per season, they did.

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