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Pryor got a Wonderlic Mulligan, too

Terrelle Pryor, Hue Jackson AP

When former Texas quarterback Vince Young got a seven on the Wonderlic, the folks at the Scouting Combine quickly gave him another shot at the test.  Young reportedly scored nine points higher the second time.

At a time when conflicting reports are emerging regarding the score generated by former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor, Pryor also took the test a second time.

Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, who initially reported that Pryor scored a seven on the test, now reports that Pryor got a 21 on his next-day do-over.

We’ve confirmed that Pryor indeed took the test a second time.  Pryor’s first crack at the Wonderlic came immediately after his August 20 Pro Day workout.  McGinn reports that Pryor took the test again the next day.

UPDATE (7:13 p.m. ET):  Pryor says on his Twitter page that he scored a 22.

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81 Responses to “Pryor got a Wonderlic Mulligan, too”
  1. epmckenna says: Aug 31, 2011 7:11 PM

    I thought Vince Young got a 6 on the Wonderlic? Hence the nickname “6.”

  2. cured76 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:11 PM

    I wish I got to take the same test twice in school.

  3. drevilstolemymojito says: Aug 31, 2011 7:11 PM

    They both received a better score after being given the test key and were told to digest it. Unfortunately, Vince and Terrelle both chewed it up and washed it down with chocolate milk.

  4. FinFan68 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:11 PM

    It’s not special to score higher on a timed test the second time. Were the questions the same? If so, that makes his 21 and VY’s 16 seem far worse than they would normally be. I would question the veracity of the test or at least its impact if they are willing to let players retake it.

  5. 14whodey18 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:14 PM

    Ohio State’s finest

  6. thegonz13 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:18 PM

    I wonder if 21 is the total of his two tests!

  7. dawkinseffect says: Aug 31, 2011 7:19 PM

    Doesn’t matter he is going to be out of the league in less then 5 years. He got kicked out of Ohio, got suspended by the NCAA and NFL…oh yeah, he will have a GREAT career…*Sarcasm*

  8. 2sloweggroll says: Aug 31, 2011 7:19 PM

    To bad he cant geta mulligan on reporting eligble for the draft.

  9. flboyindallas says: Aug 31, 2011 7:20 PM

    “You didn’t score high enough? Well, no problem! Just come right over here and let us coach you on how to pass it and you’ll be fine and dandy. Tomorrow you’ll be right as rain! Here…have a cookie!”

    How damn ridiculous is that? If they allowed this in high school & college everyone would get straight A’s. No wonder our country is going down the sh-t hole academically. Unbelievable.

  10. beedubyatoo says: Aug 31, 2011 7:23 PM

    Bob McGinn is the best NFL writer on the planet, so if he reported it, it must be correct.

  11. rayguyreturns says: Aug 31, 2011 7:24 PM

    And all of this means exactly what? Nothing.

    Just like the preseason.

  12. snowpea84 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:24 PM

    There’s always a second chance for these guys. And a third. And fourth.

  13. managod777 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:26 PM

    So? Who gives a damn? High scores certainly doesn’t make you a great NFL player. Took test, scored in 30′s. But if you don’t understand how people speak it will trip you up. Let’s see how all the white players did!

  14. amgdds32 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:27 PM

    Pryor said he got a 22. He even got that wrong

  15. footballfan15 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:27 PM

    Doesn’t really matter what he scored on this test, he isn’t going to be a good NFL Quarterback. He might make a decent back-up, but that’s about it.

  16. drmonkeyarmy says: Aug 31, 2011 7:28 PM

    Honestly, does anybody really care about this?

  17. raiderfanforlife says: Aug 31, 2011 7:28 PM

    If this guy was not a “athletic black quarterback” would this even be an issue?

    I am sure him being a Raider is just another reason to try and tear the kid down.

    What a joke? I want Bob McGinn to take the Wonderlic after he runs a 40, does shuttle drills and throws about 70 passes.

  18. scudbot says: Aug 31, 2011 7:30 PM

    Probably got through three years at Buckeye State the same way.

  19. greengob1in says: Aug 31, 2011 7:30 PM

    Without football, this guy is useless

  20. ghostofgilchrist says: Aug 31, 2011 7:32 PM

    What’s the value of a test in which the results can vary so much from one day to the next?

  21. qdog112 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:32 PM

    Wow, that practically makes Pryor a genius – a can’t miss, sure fire, future All Pro – right? Let the haters spin start … now!

  22. moelester says: Aug 31, 2011 7:34 PM

    Whats the point of lying about your 21 and changing it to a 22. We all know about the 7 and that your borderline retarded. You will fit in well with 95 percent of the people at a Raiders game.

  23. bigal1952 says: Aug 31, 2011 7:37 PM

    McGinn just couldn’t resist throwing some dirt out there.

  24. djbleedthestar says: Aug 31, 2011 7:39 PM

    What’s this test for again?

  25. deanvernonwormer says: Aug 31, 2011 7:40 PM

    After I hear the word “wonderlic” I feel this need to take a shower.

  26. 7pints says: Aug 31, 2011 7:44 PM

    Assuming this is accurate, is he bragging about a 22??? Lol. On a second attempt!

  27. bhooks says: Aug 31, 2011 7:46 PM

    yes but he also scored a 7, when it matters.

  28. phillyraider says: Aug 31, 2011 7:46 PM

    Holy Crap! Who cares….Im not rooting for a guy to ace an exam i want him to run with football and cross goal line! That’s IT! I really dont want to know anything else. This is reality show garbage, lets clean it up and start acting like MEN.

  29. rethinklogic says: Aug 31, 2011 7:47 PM

    The 7 isn’t as bad as his throwing motion

  30. phillyraider says: Aug 31, 2011 7:49 PM

    Molester scored a 9 but then realized he had the paper upside down. sorry dude u got a 6! And if you think you won the laughter contest with that stupid joke about raider fans then maybe u should Retest!

  31. mannynh says: Aug 31, 2011 7:50 PM

    they can cut this guy all the slack in the world, but he still won’t become a legit quarterback in the NFL.. Thank goodness my Patriots take the CIA approach to signing players..

    Character
    Intelligence
    Athletic Ability

    I’m sure ACI will work great for the Raiders though..

  32. andrewfbrowne says: Aug 31, 2011 7:51 PM

    Ryan Fitzpatrick got a 49 on his Wonderlic test coming out of Harvard. He is pretty good, but it probably does not have a lot to do with his Wonderlic. Jim Kelly scored in the teens, I bet there are not many Bills fans who would not trade Ryan “Amish Rifle” Fitzpatrick for Jim “Machine Gun” Kelly.

    Look up Dan Marino’s score also in the teens.

  33. scudbot says: Aug 31, 2011 7:53 PM

    Sample Wonderlic Test
    1. If the Ohio State tailback gets $42,000 from a Buckeye booster but the Escalade he wants is $57,000, he should:

    a) Buy a different SUV
    b) Take a job he doesn’t have to show up for from another booster to cover the difference
    c) Ask Maurice Clarett to borrow one for him
    d) Transfer to an SEC school with more generous boosters

  34. KIR says: Aug 31, 2011 7:53 PM

    Complete an extremely strenuous physical exercise/test. That also happens to be the most stressful event you’ve ever had to do in your life. Where IT SEEMS that everything in your entire life is riding on it. And then immediately after take a B.S. test. Oh, and your only 21. Chances are you’re not going to do as well as you might with a break in-between the two.

  35. ronaldmexico says: Aug 31, 2011 7:56 PM

    Can this McGinn character explain to Bay Area fans why Alex Smith makes so many bad decisions on the field even though he scored a 40 on the Wonderlic?

  36. melikefootball says: Aug 31, 2011 7:56 PM

    Just think if he would have gotten a 30 he could have gotten more money at OSU.

  37. scudbot says: Aug 31, 2011 8:00 PM

    “Look up Dan Marino’s score also in the teens.” Teens is literate. Seven isn’t.

  38. sterlingrodgers says: Aug 31, 2011 8:01 PM

    “ghostofgilchrist says:
    Aug 31, 2011 7:32 PM
    What’s the value of a test in which the results can vary so much from one day to the next?”

    Bingo!

  39. GG Eden says: Aug 31, 2011 8:09 PM

    I’d be interested in seeing the Wonderlic scores of many of those who post here. I bet many would do it a second time too ;)

    Fans are curious creatures. They hate star athletes because they make so much money for doing something they love, but also grovel in real life around them and yay at their exploits on the field.

  40. citiciti says: Aug 31, 2011 8:10 PM

    Singletary says:I smell a rat.

  41. madamschefter says: Aug 31, 2011 8:11 PM

    I could care less. Next story please.

  42. chuckyd317 says: Aug 31, 2011 8:17 PM

    I took the wonderlic having no idea what was to come and didn’t realize it was timed until the final minute and i got a 23… How do these clowns who “graduated” Major colleges get single digit scores???

  43. scudbot says: Aug 31, 2011 8:25 PM

    Retakes always generate higher scores. Even when they’re not mentored.

  44. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 31, 2011 8:34 PM

    I’m gonna see if I can find the test on the Internet and take it. I’ve gotta see what it’s all about.

  45. TheDPR says: Aug 31, 2011 8:44 PM

    The test results don’t “vary” from one day to the next. They get better the more times you take the test. That is perfectly normal for any test in any subject, especially when you are coached in-between testing sessions.

    Lots of people comment on the Wonderlic who have never taken it.

    I have taken it.

    It isn’t that hard. If you score below a 20, in my book you are officially stupid. Maybe not too stupid to succeed as a pro athlete but you are definitely in danger of being mistaken for a moron when out in public.

    I’m a fairly smart guy but not a genius. I scored a 38. Like I said, not because I’m that smart but because the test isn’t that hard…unless you’re stupid. If I took it again the next day I’d have probably gotten in the high 40s.

  46. firerosenthalthebastard says: Aug 31, 2011 8:51 PM

    Example of Wonderlic questions….

    # Assume the first 2 statements are true. Is the final one:
    The boy plays for the Tigers. All the players on the Tigers wear white sneakers. The boy wears white sneakers.

    # Paper sells for 21 cents per pad. What will 5 pads cost?

    # How many of the six pairs of items listed below are exact duplicates?

    # PRESENT, RESENT – Do these words

    # A train travels 20 feet in 1/5 seconds At this exact speed, how many feet will it travel in three seconds?

    # When rope is selling at $.10 a foot, how many feet can you buy for sixty cents?

    so how is any of this going to help him hit a crossing pattern?

  47. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 31, 2011 8:57 PM

    Took 3 sample tests. Averaged 42.
    But I still can’t throw a football to save my life.
    Go figure.

  48. radrntn says: Aug 31, 2011 9:03 PM

    i love your selected postings. If you question something, it does not post, if you say I hate the raiders it gets posted, and magically gets 376 thumbs up.

  49. FinFan68 says: Aug 31, 2011 9:03 PM

    raiderfanforlife says:
    Aug 31, 2011 7:28 PM
    If this guy was not a “athletic black quarterback” would this even be an issue?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Really? Why make this a racial deal?

    If this guy was not a[n] “athletic black quarterback” would he have been allowed to test again?

    It works both ways on this one, doesn’t it?

  50. hobartbaker says: Aug 31, 2011 9:07 PM

    McGinn is lying through his yellowish teeth. He is just trying to direct readers to his seldom read blog in the land of the mainly illiterate down there in Wisco. He is supposed to be the Packer’s beat writer why he is poking his nose into Pryor? No reason except to create controversy, so that those beyond his immediate family know he exists. Favre is retired and Tebow is on the verge of attention fatigue from all of the other hacks in the land. So Bob thought he would ride Pryor. Besides can’t have some jock score higher than the Wisco White Trash Wonderlic average. Which is 8. Like the average number of slices of Wisco White Trash Wonder Bread slices consumed at a sitting by the locals.

  51. hobartbaker says: Aug 31, 2011 9:11 PM

    Cheesehead Yellow Lying Scum McGinn offers NO attribution or proof of the crap he distributes. Only an invitation to click on his BOG so he doesn’t get fired next week for viewer apathy. Pathetically Packer like behavior. It’s too bad natural disasters never bother to visit Wisconsin either.

  52. sdw2001 says: Aug 31, 2011 9:25 PM

    Who cares? The Wonderlic is just more meaningless pseudo-academic nonsense. It’s not a reliable measure of intelligence.

    And that’s from a 13-year teaching veteran who isn’t a Pryor fan. So beat that with a stick, as they say.

  53. dirtdawg55 says: Aug 31, 2011 9:26 PM

    mannynh says the Pats choose players based on character, intelligence and ability. I respond with Randy Moss, Ryan Mallett, Ocho Stinko, Laurence Maroney, Nick Kaczur, Rodney Harrison, Willie Andrews, Mack Herron, Bill Belichick … And that is just off the top of my head, or in your view do multiple drug busts, violations of NFL policies and other indiscretions fall under any of character, intelligence or ability?

  54. tsimpson50 says: Aug 31, 2011 9:26 PM

    If TP put it on his TWITTER you know it must be true! His Abe Lincoln type traits are evident by how he’s always conducted himself! Great Job TP….

  55. whatswiththehate says: Aug 31, 2011 9:27 PM

    FinFan68 says:Aug 31, 2011 9:03 PM

    raiderfanforlife says:
    Aug 31, 2011 7:28 PM
    If this guy was not a “athletic black quarterback” would this even be an issue?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Really? Why make this a racial deal?

    If this guy was not a[n] “athletic black quarterback” would he have been allowed to test again?

    It works both ways on this one, doesn’t it?
    —————
    Wow…you stepped up the race card game. Can’t outsmart the inventors of the mind games.

    You know we were all waiting with baited breathe to get Pryor’s Wonderlic score so the usual , “he’s too stupid,” mantra can be chanted. Nothing racist about that at all. Dan Marino is stupid also.

  56. josh928 says: Aug 31, 2011 9:36 PM

    Agree with everyone saying who cares. Not like the test changes anything. I don’t remember seeing on Peyton Manning or Tom Bradys list of accomplishments it listing there wonderlic scores

  57. cromags says: Aug 31, 2011 9:41 PM

    He’s Raider material already!

  58. freedomispopular says: Aug 31, 2011 9:54 PM

    The Wonderlic is kinda like the standardized tests taken across the country. Means a lot on paper, but applies to absolutely nothing anything in the real world.

  59. raiderrob21 says: Aug 31, 2011 9:55 PM

    6,7,21,22? They all equal MILLIONS!

  60. billsfan1 says: Aug 31, 2011 10:02 PM

    You know we were all waiting with baited breathe to get Pryor’s Wonderlic score so the usual , “he’s too stupid,” mantra can be chanted. Nothing racist about that at all. Dan Marino is stupid also.

    Dan Marino also didn’t get to take it a second time so every body could say look he’s not stupid….

  61. bleedgreen11 says: Aug 31, 2011 10:06 PM

    moelester says:
    Aug 31, 2011 7:34 PM
    Whats the point of lying about your 21 and changing it to a 22. We all know about the 7 and that your borderline retarded. You will fit in well with 95 percent of the people at a Raiders game.

    ——

    hey guy, before you insult someones intelligence you should get some smarts of your own. The word you are looking for is you’re. It is short for you are. You will fit in with 30% of kids in the 4th grade, the other 70% being smarter than you.

  62. drunkenagitator says: Aug 31, 2011 10:26 PM

    Getting a six on that test is very, very poor. Anyone who couldn’t manage a 25 or higher on that thing had no business being anywhere near a college, it’s not exactly a difficult test. A six means you’re nearly illiterate.

  63. zone44blitz says: Aug 31, 2011 10:37 PM

    Terrelle “Seven Costanza” Pryor

  64. drevilstolemymojito says: Aug 31, 2011 10:43 PM

    Marino is an arrogant, athletically gifted idiot. His low Wonderlick score was spot-on.

  65. dgrowe213 says: Aug 31, 2011 10:56 PM

    I hope Pryor, and Al Davis, realizes that you don’t get “do-overs” against pass rushers in the NFL unless the defense commits a pass interference penalty.

  66. bearfan51 says: Aug 31, 2011 11:05 PM

    Tebow

  67. mmmpieyummy says: Sep 1, 2011 1:18 AM

    Whatever moelester, you can’t even spell your occupation right. Until you’ve actually been to a game at the Coliseum and experienced the Black Hole, then just shut up and spare us your thoughts.

  68. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Sep 1, 2011 1:22 AM

    FinFan68 says:Aug 31, 2011 9:03 PM

    raiderfanforlife says:
    Aug 31, 2011 7:28 PM
    If this guy was not a “athletic black quarterback” would this even be an issue?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Really? Why make this a racial deal?

    If this guy was not a[n] “athletic black quarterback” would he have been allowed to test again?

    It works both ways on this one, doesn’t it?
    —————————————–

    @ FinFan

    Don’t you know that Raider Nation can only see things one way due to that patch that they all have to wear over their left eye…

    It’s mandatory based on a memo sent out by the Crypt Keeper…

    TP better hope he can catch better than he can throw…

  69. tamonty67 says: Sep 1, 2011 2:13 AM

    Does 2+2 = A)4 B)6 C) Pi D) Apples

    Your Answer: How much ink can I get for Raiders practice pants

  70. titsburgfeelers says: Sep 1, 2011 2:16 AM

    Tebow got a 22. Pryor got the same as Al davis and he has Als himers.

  71. ihateannouncers says: Sep 1, 2011 2:43 AM

    Amazing how these guys get to retake the test so quickly. Like nobody will know how poorly he did on the first one. Must have written all the answers on his arm in ink and couldn’t read them. Rosenhaus- “Son use a different color ink than your tat ink next time”. I’m thinking pryors legal problems devlelop faster than his qb skills.

  72. joetoronto says: Sep 1, 2011 6:09 AM

    mannynh says: Aug 31, 2011 7:50 PM

    they can cut this guy all the slack in the world, but he still won’t become a legit quarterback in the NFL.. Thank goodness my Patriots take the CIA approach to signing players..

    Character
    Intelligence
    Athletic Ability

    I’m sure ACI will work great for the Raiders though..
    ************************************************
    Ya, that’s why the Pats wanted him too, but didn’t get him.

    Makes sense, to someone like you.

  73. scudbot says: Sep 1, 2011 6:20 AM

    “What’s the value of a test in which the results can vary so much from one day to the next?”

    “In about 95% of the cases, the player scores higher the second time that he takes the test. Usually the margin is just a few points, but in some cases the difference is about 20. When the margin is so wide, NFL teams usually just disregard the high score and, in some cases, use it against the player because the perception is that he cheated.”

  74. blackbug99 says: Sep 1, 2011 7:02 AM

    You need at least an 11 to work at Burger King!!

  75. wnyraider says: Sep 1, 2011 10:04 AM

    @mannynh, thank God your patriots used the “lets get raped” philosophy when trading Richard Seymour. That guy was the pats’ entire pass-rush. Now he is almost directly responsible for the raiders getting 47 sacks last year. So you go ahead and take that 17 overall and we’ll keep Seymour for the rest of his career.

  76. cmbksu says: Sep 1, 2011 11:00 AM

    The saddest thing of all regarding this is that this is supposedly a kid who PASSING COLLEGE CLASSES!! I went to a school with less emphasis on sports (Kent State) and I saw the same thing. Football / Basketball players never in class but passing tests. Giving presentations that a 3rd grader could do and getting A’s & B’s. Our system of higher education is failing this kids and it is due to MONEY. Each school could care less if each player learns anything as long as they get the sporting revenue. College sports has become a business. That is why I believe that the players should get payed (or compensated somehow) and don’t give me the “they get a free education” line of bull. I covered that above. They don’t even have a chance of getting an education. If they aren’t practicing, studying playbooks, watching film or sleeping, they are playing in a game or traveling to one.

  77. wnyraider says: Sep 1, 2011 11:15 AM

    And we all know Albert Haynesworth’s character and intelligence levels.

  78. radrntn says: Sep 1, 2011 11:33 AM

    @scudbot says:
    Sep 1, 2011 6:20 AM
    “What’s the value of a test in which the results can vary so much from one day to the next?”

    “In about 95% of the cases, the player scores higher the second time that he takes the test. Usually the margin is just a few points, but in some cases the difference is about 20. When the margin is so wide, NFL teams usually just disregard the high score and, in some cases, use it against the player because the perception is that he cheated.”
    ——————————————–
    man you have one heck of an imagination. You can really tell that you know what NFL teams do….fact is you don’t have a clue , or this is really Mike Lombardi.

  79. tobiathan says: Sep 1, 2011 3:44 PM

    hey guy, before you insult someones intelligence you should get some smarts of your own. The word you are looking for is you’re. It is short for you are. You will fit in with 30% of kids in the 4th grade, the other 70% being smarter than you.
    ——————————————————-

    As much as i can see why you’d want to disagree with this guy it is kinda weak to pick out a couple of instances of incorrect punctuation as the foundation of you argument against his credibility.

    It’s like saying “You’re dumb because you said the sky was blue but girls DO poop!”

    See what I mean?

  80. vbev63 says: Sep 1, 2011 6:31 PM

    First, I am not a fan of Pryor’s at all and think he will not make the grade in the Pros for lots of reasons, but mainly because he has the wrong attitude about life and given two chances at Wonderlic is why the kid has attitude of empowerment problems, and he let others cause that.

    Now for the Wonderlic test…Any of you folks can go online and take the test, at least in a mini version, and see for yourself what you think of it…..It is not always easy, and some fairly smart people can bomb standardized tests especially when they are timed tests…..A bad score does not mean he is dumb, but it could…Six is pretty low…..Most players get to study versions of the Wonderlic before they have to take it and that is the best question to ask?? Did he get to study several versions before he took the real version and he still made a 6???

  81. marcsasharc says: Sep 3, 2011 12:53 AM

    the Wonderlic test is extremely simple and anyone who thinks otherwise is apparently in the same IQ range as Terrelle Pryor.

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