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Seahawks may bench first round pick Carpenter


We’ve had a hard time evaluating the Seahawks quarterbacks this month because Seattle’s offensive line has looked so poor.

Perhaps the biggest weak spot in pass protection is at right tackle, where first round pick James Carpenter has struggled.  (Nick Saban is not surprised.)

The Seahawks inserted Carpenter as a starter immediately, but they are having second thoughts. Breno Giacomini played with the starters at times during the team’s third preseason game and is splitting snaps with Carpenter in practice.

Carroll said via that the team is trying to figure out if Carpenter can be ready to start the opener. New offensive line coach Tom Cable blamed much of the team’s problems on communication.

That’s what happens when almost the entire offensive line is new and the scheme is different.  This is year two of the Pete Carroll era, but on offense it’s like Seattle is starting from scratch again.

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32 Responses to “Seahawks may bench first round pick Carpenter”
  1. youboettcha says: Aug 31, 2011 11:45 AM

    Packers fans remember Giacomini. Too bad they won’t meet this year. One step closer to Luck…

  2. citizenstrange says: Aug 31, 2011 11:48 AM

    “… may bench first round pick Carpenter …”
    “It’s déjà vu all over again” says Jerry Jones.

  3. wallyballz says: Aug 31, 2011 11:51 AM

    Wow, when you can’t beat out Breno, you need to look for a new line of work.

  4. Dirty D Fo says: Aug 31, 2011 11:57 AM

    Carroll is cutting and benching his OWN guys that he BROUGHT in… If the Hawks’ were in a better division, they wouldn’t have a chance.. But who knows in the West.

  5. gilgafresh says: Aug 31, 2011 12:02 PM

    Keep your head up, Carpenter. You won’t be the only tackle this year in danger of losing their starting spot after facing Dumervil & Miller.

  6. emeraldcityfan says: Aug 31, 2011 12:03 PM

    Still don’t understand why we wasted a 1st rounder on him. Tom Cable will earn his paycheck this season that’s for sure….

  7. goawayeverybody says: Aug 31, 2011 12:05 PM

    Ha ha ha classic, Pete Carroll goes way out on a limb during the first round and it blows up in his face. No one has done more stupid things than the Seahacks this off-season.

    1. Giving essentially unproven Sidney Rice a huge contract.
    2. Naming Tarvaris the starter before he’s even played a down on the practice field.
    3. Selecting Carpenter when there were so many other good choices left on the draft board.

    It just gets better and better. Seahacks go 4-12 this season, no question.


  8. thehighhat says: Aug 31, 2011 12:25 PM

    Lockout effect.

  9. duanethomas says: Aug 31, 2011 12:27 PM

    Competition is what Pete Carroll is all about, but it blows (blowed..blew. Emmitt) up in it face when his anointed starters suck. He should have done all this last year, not this year with no off-season.They will go 6-10, which should put them right in the thick of things.

  10. shackdelrio says: Aug 31, 2011 12:30 PM

    With the first pick of the 2012 NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select…

  11. homelanddefense says: Aug 31, 2011 12:33 PM

    as a Patriots fan I still cant forgive Carroll for selecting Chris Canty (DB from K State) in the first round in ’97.

  12. majorseahawk says: Aug 31, 2011 12:40 PM

    This is what should have happened in the first place. I think they were being overly optimistic that Carpenter would be ready to start week 1. If you did your research on draft day you’d know that he’d be struggling in the areas that’s he is right now. He’s not a guy I saw coming in and playing well enough to start right off the bat.

  13. keeponhating says: Aug 31, 2011 12:44 PM

    @emeraldcityfan says: Aug 31, 2011 12:03 PM

    Still don’t understand why we wasted a 1st rounder on him. Tom Cable will earn his paycheck this season that’s for sure….


    or maybe he’ll just get drunk and slap some people around

  14. granadafan says: Aug 31, 2011 12:50 PM

    I feel sorry for Marshawn Lynch. I guess he’ll have to go Beastmode on his own with that joke of an offensive line.

  15. jimmysee says: Aug 31, 2011 12:53 PM

    Breno is a monster. Small wonder Carpenter could not best him out.

  16. CKL says: Aug 31, 2011 12:56 PM

    emeraldcityfan says: Aug 31, 2011 12:03 PM

    Still don’t understand why we wasted a 1st rounder on him.
    I have a hysterically funny screenshot I took during the draft of his name being announced and Saban et al @ the ‘bama table in the greenroom having expressions of drop dead shock on their faces. The very embodiment of a “WTF?!?!” look.

  17. pacificnw7722 says: Aug 31, 2011 1:10 PM

    It all started way back with the Tim Ruskell era. Rustyskull NEVER made the trenches a priority on this team.

    For the last 5 years this has been a HUGE problem area for the Seahawks and most likely will take several more years to to have an ADEQUATE line.

    I agree that Carpenter was a reach in the draft and Breno Giacomini seems most suited to play RT and this stage of the season. Carpenter SHOULD sit this year, and concentrate on staying in shape and learn how to pass protect.

  18. m2karateman says: Aug 31, 2011 1:11 PM

    Pete Carroll is not a good evaluator of talent for the NFL. Those responsibilities should not be his. Coach whoever the GM selects in the draft. He should not have the final say.

    Golden Tate is teetering on being cut, and their first round pick can’t hack playing right tackle.

    Looks like Luck stays on the west coast…..

  19. volsunghawk says: Aug 31, 2011 1:17 PM

    Not really surprising, but it’s not because “lolz har Crapenter sux!1!! seahaggs!!11!”

    The lockout hurt the Seahawks’ O-line because it’s an incredibly young unit that hasn’t had even a month of work together. Add in the fact that Carpenter is being moved from LT in college to RT in the NFL, and he’s having to learn the new position, adjust to new teammates, etc. all in an incredibly short span.

    One thing you can pin on Carpenter is that due to the lockout, it was on him to make sure he was in proper shape for preseason, and he sure didn’t manage that. He needs to spend a lot of time with the team’s strength and conditioning coaches.

  20. kingmj4891 says: Aug 31, 2011 1:17 PM

    I like Pete Carroll but he really tries too hard to be out there and cute in his moves. Just build a team keep your mouth shut and antics down and you can rule the NFC West, there is not much standing in your way.

    2011 Outlook

    Hawks 6-9-1 third place in NFC West behind Rams 8-8-0 and Arizona 7-9-0 and San Fran 3-12-1.

  21. mrcosio says: Aug 31, 2011 1:26 PM

    As a Raider fan I will warn all you Seattle faithful….Tom Cable isn’t going to improve your O line much

  22. seattlereign says: Aug 31, 2011 1:45 PM

    I can remember on draft day when the talking heads on TV said that the Hawks reached quite a bit on a few of their picks. As time passes, I’m reluctantly starting to agree with them.

  23. trollhammer20 says: Aug 31, 2011 2:02 PM

    kingmj4891 says:Aug 31, 2011 1:17 PM

    Hawks 6-9-1 third place in NFC West behind Rams 8-8-0 and Arizona 7-9-0 and San Fran 3-12-1.


    So, I take it you’ve seen the Niners and Hawks play this preseason, and have the week one opener a scoreless tie?

    Sadly, as a ‘Hawks fan, I could see that, too.

  24. seeschool says: Aug 31, 2011 2:05 PM

    Every year a team tries to get cute in the first round……Gabe Carimi was the better OT prospect and he was available at #25…….woops……

  25. cball77 says: Aug 31, 2011 2:24 PM

    Still shocked that they took him over Karemi (excuse spelling), the Wisconsin RT. Most scouts had a 3rd round grade on Carpenter. Seahawks have been cursed with bad late first round picks for a while going back to Holmgren GM era (Jennings, Lawrence Jackson, Chris Spencer, etc.) – looks like Schneider/Carroll may continue the trend (although I don’t think they’ll have to worry about a late 1st rounder in ’12).

  26. dawsonleery says: Aug 31, 2011 2:44 PM

    I’m not a fan of what Seattle is doing. I don’t understand what kind of team they are building. They are wasting draft picks. Singing skill position free agents to huge deals with no QB or O-line. I think Seattle has a shot at Luck but Carroll won’t be around to enjoy it.

  27. vahawker says: Aug 31, 2011 3:02 PM

    drafting Carpenter made little sense in April, makes less sense now

  28. dino2997 says: Aug 31, 2011 3:03 PM

    Seahawk fans like to blame Tim Ruskell for everything. It’s actually pretty amusing to read every single time.

  29. juliusanonymous says: Aug 31, 2011 3:14 PM

    It cracks me up that people are calling Carpenter a bust already. That’s hilarious. The guy hasn’t even played a real game yet, much less a few seasons’ worth. Hysterical much?

  30. expatpatfan says: Aug 31, 2011 3:25 PM

    Fun fact about Seattle’s O-Line from FO: No 2 members of the line have ever played a regular season snap together. Small wonder communication is an issue.

    This is the least experienced line in football, and one of the least experienced lines in the last 10 years. It’s going to be a long year in Seattle–they should’ve given Hasselbeck a 2-year deal.

  31. seattlereign says: Aug 31, 2011 4:30 PM

    Hey expatfan, Hasselbeck wouldn’t have made it through the pre-season behind that line. Not signing Hass is a move I agree with. It actually makes a little sense that they have a QB with some elusiveness back there.

  32. savannahrose44 says: Sep 2, 2011 5:57 AM

    I’m not sad to see Matt get a chance some place else to end up. He ran for his life in Seattle for many a year…Now it’s Tavaris Jackson’s turn, until Whitehurst or Portis take the job from him. Either way should be an interesting year. But no one can call Carpenter a bust just yet. Sorry but it’s just too early and the lockout screwed a lot of players out of valuable time to go through their growing pains. Not his fault. This line is young they are going to take time.

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