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Bengals believe Carson Palmer could show up next week

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We haven’t heard anything new on the Carson Palmer quasi-retirement front in a while, which is remarkable considering how ridiculous the entire story is.

Well, we have an interesting development.  ESPN’s Bob Holtzman reports that Palmer met with owner Mike Brown in late July.

The Bengals believe it’s possible Palmer may report to the team next week. That would force the Bengals to trade, release, or play Palmer. They could also keep him as an $11.5 million backup.

Brown said that he wouldn’t trade Palmer, but the 31-year-old quarterback could force the issue by showing up. It’s hard to imagine the Bengals benching rookie Andy Dalton at this point.

It’s also hard to believe a well-paid player like Palmer would so willingly give up on playing football for a season.

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  1. acerockefellar says: Sep 1, 2011 7:50 PM

    Carson palmer is such a quitter he cant even quit at quitting.

  2. ernestbynershands says: Sep 1, 2011 7:51 PM

    I hope Carson shows up. It will be easier now that the Bungles freed up cap space by releasing Jordan Palmer.

  3. realistik84 says: Sep 1, 2011 7:51 PM

    This whole fiasco is ridiculous….

  4. thegonz13 says: Sep 1, 2011 7:52 PM

    Palmer could show up next week… yeah, and Santa Claus could show up at Christmas!

  5. jshawaii22 says: Sep 1, 2011 7:52 PM

    Yo Mike B. — Call PC in Seattle, he’s waiting to hear from you. A Third round pick would be good for Carson at this point.

    Hawk Fan…

  6. Sandra Lee's Cans says: Sep 1, 2011 7:53 PM

    Is that a picture of Palmer leaving the meeting with Brown?

  7. dewalt2990 says: Sep 1, 2011 7:54 PM

    …and the Lions will win the superbowl…

  8. nomoreseasontix says: Sep 1, 2011 7:55 PM

    I hope he shows up and gets traded somewhere worse. I don’t know where that would be, though.
    The guy has handled the whole deal like a whiny teenager.
    No offense to teenagers.

  9. contraryguy says: Sep 1, 2011 7:56 PM

    The consensus is that the Bengals will be carrying 2 QBs to start the season. They put Carson P. Lamer on the roster and lose another position player, on a team where depth is pretty thin all over. Nahh, even Mike Brown isn’t that stupid… is he?

  10. hartjk says: Sep 1, 2011 7:57 PM

    I’m on Carson’s side.

  11. rambo08 says: Sep 1, 2011 7:57 PM

    Mike Brown is the worst owner in the entire history of professional sports.

  12. lexnekst says: Sep 1, 2011 7:58 PM

    The Bengals ownership has given up on the fans. Please screw them over Carson.

  13. cheezysmegma says: Sep 1, 2011 7:58 PM

    Palmer reporting would be a delicious development. I’m sure there are several teams that would immediate take Carson off Mike Brown’s hands at a discount rate since Mike Brown is way too cheap to pay his salary for him to ride the pine. The whole situation reminds me of Barry Sanders exit from the Peugeots, but perhaps with a better (happy?) ending. Do something to help the team win or trade me!

  14. CKL says: Sep 1, 2011 7:59 PM

    I’d respect Palmer’s stance a lot less if he does show up.

  15. jigwig13 says: Sep 1, 2011 7:59 PM

    The yorks blaake or harbaugh should be giving mr brown a call

  16. lexnekst says: Sep 1, 2011 8:00 PM

    Carson palmer is such a quitter he cant even quit at quitting.

    ———————————————————–

    who would want to play for the Bengals? Millinos under the cap & no attempt to bring in a big splash player, or trade Carson for SOMEONE. I hope he goes to another team in your division, and owns Mike Brown.

  17. ecnasty says: Sep 1, 2011 8:02 PM

    As a former Bungal fan, I hope Carson shows up. I believe Mike Brown signs guys to contracts all the time, and then cuts them loose for one reason or another, before the contract is up. Mike Brown is such a disappointment to the Brown name.

  18. ajknox88 says: Sep 1, 2011 8:02 PM

    Carson’s such a boss

  19. raiderlyfe510 says: Sep 1, 2011 8:04 PM

    Carson Palmer tried to run the west coast offense at USC under Paul Hackett and looked worse than Jamarcus Russell did trying to run it….Mike Brown for the love of the football gods..trade him, he doesn’t fit Jay Gruden’s system….and Palmer dont even think about it.don’t do it to yourself.

  20. billinva says: Sep 1, 2011 8:06 PM

    I’d love to see the Bungles eat it when Palmer shows up.

  21. quiettexan says: Sep 1, 2011 8:07 PM

    I was hoping he’d come back…

    just so i could read about the drama that followed.

  22. zillat says: Sep 1, 2011 8:08 PM

    I’m also on Carson’s side.

  23. jussayin13 says: Sep 1, 2011 8:11 PM

    Carson will show, I know alot of very rich people that would’nt throw away 11.5 million.
    Normally I am on the owners side but Mr brown is not a good person. He takes his share of shared revenue and runs.

  24. purplehayseuss says: Sep 1, 2011 8:13 PM

    I support Palmer. It’s the only way I can see for him to stand up to the owner and be true to himself. I hope they have to pay him. If they do, Palmer wins, in my opinion. Because they won’t pay him, and he’ll be free. He said it himself, that he has tons of money and can live without any Bengals paychecks ever again even if he has to totally retire.

    Palmer is not a ‘quitter’! He has stuck it out in the hellhole of the NFL for a very long time. If Palmer is a ‘quitter’, so is Eli Manning, so is John Elway. They both took stands at the start of their careers, and got what they wanted.

  25. darthobama says: Sep 1, 2011 8:13 PM

    Call their bluff…show up and make them pay…or they cut him and he can go to miami

  26. mwcarolina says: Sep 1, 2011 8:14 PM

    yeah he will show up when Washington wins a super bowl, come on, he’s already missed a ton of time, doubt he wants to come back to them and if he does get traded i dont know what team would want him, he will have to learn a new offense really fast.

  27. packmanfan says: Sep 1, 2011 8:18 PM

    Replace the name of “Carson Palmer” with “Brett Favre” and you got the same story.

  28. 14whodey18 says: Sep 1, 2011 8:18 PM

    Of course he will show up, can’t have a circus without a clown

  29. pettergriffen says: Sep 1, 2011 8:19 PM

    CKL says:
    Sep 1, 2011 7:59 PM
    I’d respect Palmer’s stance a lot less if he does show up.

    –true retard.

  30. firstand4ever says: Sep 1, 2011 8:19 PM

    The Bengals are always more entertaining and interesting than the plain old boring teams like the Steelers and Patriots. Those teams are always run well and are good. Who wants to see a functional structure. That’s boring.

    Cincy is loaded with drama and excitement. I hope Palmer shows up. Just for kicks, Marvin Lewis should make him cover kickoffs and punts. Make Carson carry Dalton’s shoulder pads. Heck for 11 million, I would do it.

  31. cballlv11 says: Sep 1, 2011 8:23 PM

    nomoreseasontix says:
    Sep 1, 2011 7:55 PM
    I hope he shows up and gets traded somewhere worse.————————————
    Not Possible… The Raiders already have enough QB’s!!!

  32. mikebrowndie says: Sep 1, 2011 8:27 PM

    While Mike Brown is worst owner in history, Carson has to man up…he was the one that one the Bengals to sign TO, L. Coles, etc. They catered to him, even drafting a 6th string QB in his brother Jordan.

    He has nobody to blame but himself…..he is a quitter.

  33. theredbengal says: Sep 1, 2011 8:30 PM

    I lost respect for him by leaving his team and basically taking the stance that “I can’t win here, and the reason is because this organization and the players are bringing my talents down.” Don’t act like you didn’t play a part in this disaster, Palmer. YOU were the one who wanted L. Coles, Antonio Bryant, and TO. This damn team kowtowed to you, and clearly they shouldn’t have.

    I definitely would lose more respect for you though, if you do return and put the team in a bad spot. At least turning your back on your teammates and saying you’d never return would make you a man of your word…

  34. 4512dawg4512 says: Sep 1, 2011 8:30 PM

    I hope he shows up and goes straight to Mike Brown’s office and takes a big stinky dump in his personal bathroom and leaves….. without flushing

  35. quirtevans says: Sep 1, 2011 8:30 PM

    I hope he shows up. The Bengals won’t have much choice but to release him, unless they want to pay him roughly $750K per game out of spite.

    They’ll either cut him right away or keep him for a week or two, to make it harder for him to find a new team, and then cut him. They’re way too cheap to pay his contract to have him sit on the bench.

  36. pskotte says: Sep 1, 2011 8:30 PM

    No point in trading #9 before the end of the season. MB won’t get anyting now so he might as well wait until he has better leverage. So much for Palmer’s lofty principles, he is obviously just trying to squeeze more dollars. What a loser.

  37. getweird4u says: Sep 1, 2011 8:38 PM

    If he shows up he WILL be an 11.5 million dollar 3rd stringer all u fools who want him on ur team take a look at some gametape sometime he is DONE!!!He is a headcase at this point just go away cp,and if u think he will FORCE mike brown to do anything you dont know the villiage idiot mike brown very well.

  38. jacksaysfu says: Sep 1, 2011 8:38 PM

    Dalton is not ready to lead yet . Payton , Floyd (sd) and many others miss camp and dont miss a beat . If carson doe show ,Mike Brown should start him . Either he plays like himself or the locker room will make his life hell . Or srop being stubborn and get badly needed picks !

  39. bengalguy says: Sep 1, 2011 8:41 PM

    @ecnasty
    Your not a former BENGAL fan…..the word Bungal is blasphamy…asshat…haters hate

  40. captainloaded says: Sep 1, 2011 8:42 PM

    This just in…..Ken Anderson and Boomer Esiason have also been reported to be coming out of retirement.

  41. 1buckeye76 says: Sep 1, 2011 8:43 PM

    lexnekst says: Sep 1, 2011 8:00 PM
    who would want to play for the Bengals? Millinos under the cap & no attempt to bring in a big splash player, or trade Carson for SOMEONE. I hope he goes to another team in your division, and owns Mike Brown.
    —————————-
    last i saw they were about 22 million under the cap… maybe a little more. they have to stay at least 12 million under this year in the event that Carson does show up and try to force the issue. also, they just ate up some of that cap space in extending andrew whitworth, and are now moving on to extend leon hall. also, i’m sure they will add a few players after rosters are trimmed to 53.

  42. 1buckeye76 says: Sep 1, 2011 8:45 PM

    mikebrowndie says: Sep 1, 2011 8:27 PM

    While Mike Brown is worst owner in history, Carson has to man up…he was the one that one the Bengals to sign TO, L. Coles, etc. They catered to him, even drafting a 6th string QB in his brother Jordan.

    He has nobody to blame but himself…..he is a quitter.

    —————————–

    they picked up jordan as a free agent, but your right, the only reason he was on the team was because of carson.

  43. markpfs says: Sep 1, 2011 8:48 PM

    they can cut he any time, they can bench him, they (M Brown) has all the power over Palmer. he plays for a cheap, terrible team and signed a contract when things were looking up and they were signing a few talented vets. that isn’t the case anymore and he is trapped. why not trade him away? what is the point. you drafted a replacement so ship him off. tired of these owners thinking that they own the player. they are employers of players not owners! trade the guy and be human already!!

  44. bearsrulepackdrool says: Sep 1, 2011 8:49 PM

    Man, I would love to be paid $11.5 million to hold a clipboard. That would be AWESOME!

  45. l6ozbud says: Sep 1, 2011 8:50 PM

    I sympathize with Palmer and as a fan fed up with Mike Brown, I’m begging Palmer to show up. Please Carson. Make the dope trade you so the fans can hope Mikey doesn’t screw up the extra draft pick..

  46. flagstaffphotos says: Sep 1, 2011 8:53 PM

    Yeah, but you should see how many bandages Brown was sporting.

  47. brintfatre says: Sep 1, 2011 8:59 PM

    Goodell’s responsible… he let Favre get away with it!

  48. TurdSandwich says: Sep 1, 2011 9:05 PM

    Boy these Bengal haters are really uninformed and not very funny to boot. Don’t quit your day job for comedy. Oh, I forgot – you don’t have one.

    If Carson wants to show up then show up. Since he won’t be traded, he’ll have to play or ride the pine. Doesn’t help his cause, gain him fans or make him money to be the guy that is intentionally hurting a team. The joke will be on him.

    People forget, Mike Brown paid this azzhat tons of money. Built a team around him and gave his brother a charity job when no other team would.

    The perception that Brown is somehow screwing Carson around is preposterous. It’s absolutely the other way around. And he’s screwing the fans too.

  49. steelcurtainn says: Sep 1, 2011 9:09 PM

    That picture looks like Carsons face after a steelers game.

  50. skiha says: Sep 1, 2011 9:16 PM

    ecnasty says:Sep 1, 2011 8:02 PM

    As a former Bungal fan, I hope Carson shows up. I believe Mike Brown signs guys to contracts all the time, and then cuts them loose for one reason or another, before the contract is up. Mike Brown is such a disappointment to the Brown name.
    __________________________________
    This coming from a true Bengals fan: you are the worst kind of fan; calling yourself a “former fan”. I don’t care how bad your franchise is, no one should jump ship. If you can that then you are admitting that you are a fair weather fan. Do most Bengals fans wake up every morning during football season wishing they were a fan of another team, I do. But there is no way in hell I could root on any other team. I hate Mike Brown, but what am I going to do about it except bitch to people at work about what he should do to improve the team. The Bengals have a lot more problems than whether or not or not Carson comes back or not.
    WHO DEY FOREVER!!!!
    No matter what the record book says

  51. thirdngoal says: Sep 1, 2011 9:20 PM

    rambo08 says:
    Sep 1, 2011 7:57 PM
    Mike Brown is the worst owner in the entire history of professional sports.

    I agree with you in the NFL, but have you heard of Bob Nutting?

  52. sadskinsfan89 says: Sep 1, 2011 9:22 PM

    The bengals are in a lose lose situation. Mike brown loses if he releases palmer and he loses if palmer rides the bench and collects his money. If u ask me palmers in a perfect situation. What’s the worst that cld happen?

  53. KIR says: Sep 1, 2011 9:25 PM

    Why is everyone for Carson Palmer and against Chris Brown? I hope Carson shows also shows but…… wow

  54. KIR says: Sep 1, 2011 9:26 PM

    Correction
    Chris JOHNSON….. sorry. :-)

  55. jeremyb91 says: Sep 1, 2011 9:27 PM

    He’s going to Seattle one way or the other. His offseason home is just outside the city and can be reunited with Pete Carroll.

    Mike Brown deserves what Carson Palmer has been giving to him after the way Brown has treated his franchise since his Dad the Great Paul Brown died in 1991. This is the WORST team since 1991 in the NFL bar none. They have the most top 10 draft picks and the most top 10 busts in that time period. He’s not his father and needs to hand the reigns to a real football man because he obviously doesn’t have it in him.

    I don’t blame Palmer. After giving his heart and soul to the franchise since 2003 you would think Palmer would have a slew of studs throughout the whole team. Palmer deserves better treatment and he’ll get it elsewhere. He’s taken 8 years of crap and he’s done.

  56. Exiled1 says: Sep 1, 2011 9:28 PM

    Honestly folks, we know what a freaking dumpster fire the Bengals are. Palmers’s talent level is above average. Mike Brown is trying to squash the remaining decent years out of good QB to do what?….prove a point?

    Let the guy go somewhere else and show that he can/or can’t win a Super Bowl.

    So what if you don’t like him. Grow Up.

  57. steviemo says: Sep 1, 2011 9:28 PM

    Raiders were 8-8 last year, Mr. Idiot….

  58. eaglesfan290 says: Sep 1, 2011 9:30 PM

    It’s the Bengals if Peyton Manning, Fitzgerald, CJ2K, Dion Sanders, Rod Woodson showed up they would still be 2-14

    The problem is with the Owner, he sucks!

  59. terrellochouno says: Sep 1, 2011 9:31 PM

    Dear Mike Brown,

    You are the worst owner in the NFL, bar none.

    Sincerely,
    Dan Snyder

  60. CKL says: Sep 1, 2011 9:33 PM

    pettergriffen says: Sep 1, 2011 8:19 PM

    CKL says:
    Sep 1, 2011 7:59 PM
    I’d respect Palmer’s stance a lot less if he does show up.

    –true retard.
    _____________________________________
    He was reportedly of the mind that he would never set foot in that stadium again as a Bengal. If he shows up he is going back on his reported word. And you call ME names?

    I wish the censors would concentrate more on namecalling other posters (especially if unprovoked)around here. It’s childish and shows someone has 0 argument.

  61. vikesfansteve says: Sep 1, 2011 9:34 PM

    It’s hard to pass up 11 million.

  62. theallegedone says: Sep 1, 2011 9:46 PM

    That’s really the only pic of him that you could find? Wow.

  63. commentcentral says: Sep 1, 2011 9:53 PM

    So if megabucks spoiled quitter Palmer shows up just to spite Mike Brown, won’t the Bengals have to cut someone who is just trying to hang on and play the game he loves?

  64. twindaddy says: Sep 1, 2011 9:53 PM

    Ah, Carson Palmer, he who takes his ball and leaves cause he’s not winning. You guys remember that kid that always quit when he wasn’t winning? Yeah, that kid was Carson. What a bitch.

  65. roxtar10 says: Sep 1, 2011 9:57 PM

    RAI…ders….RAI…ders…

  66. cincybert says: Sep 1, 2011 10:03 PM

    Typical ESPN bs….PFT should be better than to post this. Let me guess, the Bengals also believe that Carson Palmer could potentially not show up? I can’t wait for the next article on the four-letter proclaiming that “Carson Palmer could report to the Bengals as early as today…..” This type of reporting smells worse than the garbage I dumped on Palmer’s lawn.

  67. phillybirds says: Sep 1, 2011 10:06 PM

    Carson is awesome its ashame he’s going through this BS.

  68. sungateman says: Sep 1, 2011 10:11 PM

    I am a tru blue Bengal Fan, and a former fan of Carson. . . . . but anyone defending this guy is just plain a sucker. He signed a contract, and took the money, two years previously, and now whines this way. Sorry, I’m not going to be a sucker anymore. Mike Brown finally showed everyone that business is business.

  69. dirtdawg55 says: Sep 1, 2011 10:11 PM

    … Hope he gets traded somewhere worse.

    Well, a trade with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers might have done the trick but not sure that’s worse now that they are winning this year. Hmmm … A trade to a UFL team maybe?

    I don’t know. What’s worse than having to play for the Bengals?

  70. pftard says: Sep 1, 2011 10:14 PM

    The only thing that’s ” hard to believe” in this story is that anyone thinks that Carson Palmer was/ is worth $11.5 Mil.

  71. theroc5156 says: Sep 1, 2011 10:16 PM

    If Palmer shows up, he immediately improves the Bengals record from 2-14 to 4-12 this year.

  72. lesleyvissersfacelift says: Sep 1, 2011 10:16 PM

    Hey, Carson, nice face.

  73. simalex says: Sep 1, 2011 10:21 PM

    “It’s also hard to believe a well-paid player like Palmer would so willingly give up on playing football for a season.”

    —-

    If you’re playing for the Bengals, i think it’s pretty easy to believe why one would give up on playing for a season.

  74. ghostrider45 says: Sep 1, 2011 10:38 PM

    Love reading all the comments from stealers-ratbirds-and turfs fans…. we’ll be just fine this year.

  75. 1buckeye76 says: Sep 1, 2011 10:44 PM

    commentcentral says: Sep 1, 2011 9:53 PM

    So if megabucks spoiled quitter Palmer shows up just to spite Mike Brown, won’t the Bengals have to cut someone who is just trying to hang on and play the game he loves?

    —————-
    Bruce Gradkowski

  76. easyeintennessee says: Sep 1, 2011 10:53 PM

    Let’s sign him, start him week one, and then let our offensive line quit on him. Let’s see how long his career last when his team quits on him like he quit on them.

  77. Deb says: Sep 1, 2011 10:59 PM

    It’s an atypical situation. This isn’t a guy who’s trying to jack up the team for more money or who had a year of rookie success and wants to leave for greener pastures. Carson gave the Benglas his best years. He’s miserable and would like to enjoy what little time he has left before retirement. Brown has had no problem trading other players. He’s just being vindictive. I hope Carson shows up and forces the issue. He deserves the same opportunity to play elsewhere that Ochocinco is getting.

  78. tdk24 says: Sep 1, 2011 10:59 PM

    The Ravens are only a QB away.

  79. cgalaxy says: Sep 1, 2011 11:12 PM

    I’m tired of people saying Carson owes the Bengals something because they tried to bring in replacements for TJ. That’s what they’re SUPPOSED to do. As if bringing in a receiver was just a favor for Palmer and not, you know, something the Bengals obviously needed to do to fill a hole. And how many teams were excited about Coles? What about Bryant? No one else wanted TO–it’s not like he really costed them much of anything to bring in.

  80. itsmebobd says: Sep 1, 2011 11:13 PM

    Carson Palmer would rather retire than play on a team led by Carson Palmer…… lol
    In all seriousness, Take a 2nd rounder from seattle for him. If they gave up a 2nd rounder for charlie freakin whitehurst, they should easily give up a 2nd rounder for palmer. Also, I dont mind if he shows up, fine him for every single day he has missed, and then send him home for conduct detrimental to the team every time he doesnt give 100% in the locker room or practice. And serously, imagine this. Dalton goes down few weeks in at a home game, here comes you guessed it, carson palmer. the BOO from the home crowd would be so insane I think it would make sports centers top 10 plays haha.

  81. depotnator says: Sep 1, 2011 11:16 PM

    A lot of whiney Bungle fans on here who resent the way Palmer’s agent has danced with moronic Mike Brown. If Chris Johnson can force the Titans to fork over $53M before he will play, then there is nothing wrong with Palmer’s ” trade me or pay me” strategy. Not many top level QBs would ever want to play for perennial losers like Lewis/Brown. I don’t understand why the Bungle fans would whine about getting picks back in return for Palmer. Would you rather get nothing?

  82. kirschmania says: Sep 1, 2011 11:56 PM

    I wish people would stop bitching about palmer. Carson has been on this sinking ship for a long damn time and has been a model employee on a team that rivals the raiders. He’s simply cutting himself from the roster. Owners do it all the time to players. Brown’s arguably the worst owner in the NFL and its time someone had the nuts to say enough is enough.

  83. depotnator says: Sep 1, 2011 11:56 PM

    “Take a 2nd rounder from seattle for him. If they gave up a 2nd rounder for charlie freakin whitehurst, they should easily give up a 2nd rounder for palmer.”

    Seattle got Whitehurst from SD for a third round pick. But don’t let the facts disturb your argument.

  84. wuznotsobad says: Sep 1, 2011 11:59 PM

    Big deal. Palmer never did achieve much for all the ‘elite’ hype he’s been given, and at this point he’s a washed-up has-been anyway. Showing up now would simply show he lost any diginity and respect for the game he may have ever had. If he shows that much lack of class and utter didsain for the franchise and the NFL, Marvin ought to stick him on the field on special plays.

  85. depotnator says: Sep 2, 2011 12:00 AM

    “I am a tru blue Bengal Fan…Sorry, I’m not going to be a sucker anymore. Mike Brown finally showed everyone that business is business.”

    @sungateman: yup, you surely have proved you are a Bengal fan.

  86. smelllyfingers says: Sep 2, 2011 12:02 AM

    Carson is coming is back for he can be traded to Washington. The skins are screwed.

  87. Deb says: Sep 2, 2011 12:23 AM

    commentcentral says:

    So if megabucks spoiled quitter Palmer shows up just to spite Mike Brown, won’t the Bengals have to cut someone who is just trying to hang on and play the game he loves?

    ————————————————-

    You’re not too bright, are you?

    No. They could trade him. They could cut him loose … although they’d still have to pay him. They do not have to cut someone who wants to be there in order to hold Carson Palmer hostage. Mike Brown created this situation. Are the other players he’s traded spoiled quitters, too, or is that just reserved for Palmer? You can’t have it both ways.

  88. cincinnati222 says: Sep 2, 2011 12:24 AM

    Carson Palmer shows up. He plays. It’s been stated. The coaches did say recently he would have to compete but his 11 million salary is all the competition he needs. Andy will learn under Palmer and Gradkowski will be 3rd string. Mike won’t trade him. He’ll welcome him back and say ” Told you so. Now get to work. ” locker room will divide and the circus continues.

  89. qtownchawk says: Sep 2, 2011 1:38 AM

    this is good news as a hawks fan. im not saying Carson would be a savior, but a definite upgrade over t jax and charlie W. When Seattle didn’t draft a QB in this year’s draft, i remember Schneider saying that they had a definite plan for QB. Id bet money they were banking on trading for Carson, and when the news broke he was retiring, they snatched T Jax out of desperation because obviously they don’t have faith in Whitehurst. Then they slapped the “he knows the offense” excuse on to band aid the fact plan A didn’t go through. Even if they have to give up a draft pick , I’m sure they’re going to draft the QB of the future in the first round anyhow, so they can have Carson be the bridgegap (which sounds way better than what we have now).

  90. rraider says: Sep 2, 2011 2:59 AM

    Hate the Bengals but dont understand why anyone is on Carson Palmer’s side of this!

    He has:
    1) declared way too early publicly i wont play for the Bengals during a lockout year.(keep that to yourself and negotiae a trade behind the scenes)(he put the bengals backs against the wall..ala TJ and ocho)

    2) Bragged about how much money he has saved

    3) Said he would retire(file the papers then)

    4) didnt his agent realize that any team he goes to in week one or two of this NFL season is going to suck just like the Bengals and he just lost a year off a underachieving career.

    And he cost his brother a 1 million bucks and a job.

    Cant wait to see what the market is for him next Febuary…..At least hasselback, mcnabb, collins, young, croyle, carr,smith, jackson, gradkowski,edwards,leinart…..knew enough to find a seat before the music stops and get paid for 2011.

  91. nyfcat says: Sep 2, 2011 3:04 AM

    Carson Palmer was the NFL’s 19th rated QB on a 4-12 team, right?

  92. pftequalsgreatjournalism says: Sep 2, 2011 3:13 AM

    steviemo says:Sep 1, 2011 9:28 PM

    Raiders were 8-8 last year, Mr. Idiot….

    ——————————-

    I think that he was referring to the zoo that is all things run by the Crypt Keeper…

    Besides, CP has too slow of a 40-yard dash time…

  93. cmarsh64 says: Sep 2, 2011 3:13 AM

    I think Carson should come in and force Mike Browns hand because he isn’t a man of his word either,he said he wouldn’t trade Ocho or Palmer and he already trade Ocho to N.E. so why not Palmer? Pay him 11.5 mil to sit the bench or trade him its that simple unless you want his bad influence around the new QB Dalton. Time to play poker my friends and Palmer is going “ALL IN”. Your CALL Mike Brown.

  94. gobills716 says: Sep 2, 2011 3:42 AM

    I love how his excuse for this childish stunt is the lack of winning in Cincinnati. They’ve made the playoffs twice in his seven years as a starter. Players for the Bills and Lions would kill for an opportunity like that. He’s such a baby, what team would want to bring him on at this point.

  95. Jecurb says: Sep 2, 2011 5:03 AM

    I respect his choice to want to be traded… we’re a bad team. But this whole approach is disruptive and done in bad taste. If you say that you’re retiring, then retire. You had the choice to play or leave. Choose a path and stick to it. (sigh) Then again, maybe I’m just salty about fact that we suck. smh

  96. savannahrose44 says: Sep 2, 2011 5:29 AM

    Stick it to the man Carson…Seattle is waiting.

  97. flagstaffphotos says: Sep 2, 2011 6:34 AM

    Carson Palmer still doesn’t understand – the Bengals biggest problem in recent years has been … Carson Palmer.

    2005 is a long time ago – he’s got poor accuracy, poor arm strength, and poor progression with his reads. What’s left of his game falls completely apart under pressure. He pads his stats at the ends of meaningless games, but overall he just doesn’t have the skill set of a quality NFL starting qb. He should go ahead and stay retired – it’s not going to end well for him.

  98. opie333 says: Sep 2, 2011 7:59 AM

    He should have traded him in july when he talked to him! He had good value then. dumb decisions! I had a boss that used to tell me keep the sh!t at shoe level.

  99. tv426 says: Sep 2, 2011 8:12 AM

    Nice pic!

  100. beelicker says: Sep 2, 2011 8:40 AM

    Palmer will owe $30K/day in fines for every day he’s missed since the initial reporting date (July 29), so Brown could stick it to him for the accumulated million or so (and in after-tax $$$ too) & only then cut him loose or trade him for a popsicle stick.

    Just imagine the French maid QB’s squealing & whinebagging when that would happen … Garcon Palmierre really WOULD ask his wife if he could just go ahead & file his official retirement papers then! Mike can even come out looking like the even more reasonable adult in all this in the face of such treasonous blackmail attempt by the Garcon when he magnanimously drops the fine$$$ as well.

    Mike Brown IS a Harvard Lawyer & he ain’t dumb. In fact, he’s a friggin’ genius when it comes to negotiations & leverage (he twice punked the IRS on the sub-S corp tax inheritance device he devised to ‘inherit’ about half the shares of the team from one of PB’s original co-owner/buddies Austin Knowlton, you can look it up).

    Mikey holds the card$$$ here & even if he does relent & trade him now, possibly for live & viable bodies right now at the cutdown day instead of draft pix from next year that wouldn’t have helped this year’s team anyway due to the lockout & draft already being over before he could move him & for which he can still can do a deal right up to the next draft – so I don’t really see why all you lemmings have such hair afire for needing him to have already traded him already?

    4-0 start with Red “Ryder” Dalton/SHOCK THE WORLD/ Make My Whodey!

  101. theravishingrachelnichols says: Sep 2, 2011 9:00 AM

    Why assume he would be the back up? Perhaps he’s seen the new offense with AJ Green and decided to come back and play (at least) one more year for $11.5 million. Not to mention he shouldn’t have any trouble keeping Dalton on the bench, fire crotch-noodle arm can’t throw the deep ball.

  102. guvsta says: Sep 2, 2011 9:22 AM

    I agree with opie333- the time to get value has been and gone. Now you either keep him as an expensive I-told-you-so or trade him for a mid round pick. Everyone knows Brown is a cheapskate so his leverage for a trade is gone. Dolphins and Seahawks would have paid up a month ago- not sure they would now. Oh well, you live and learn (or not in Brown’s case).

  103. managod777 says: Sep 2, 2011 9:44 AM

    I hope Carson Palmer shows up. Prideful Mike Brown won’t release or trade him, so Carson will be a backup. Pay him $11.5 mil and then release him because he has an attitude “detrimental to the team.” He’ll get with a team needing a veteran QB. He’ll be overvalued so he’ll probably get 30-50 million dollars for 4 to 5 yrs. In the end Carson will get what he wants and Brown will be happy because he “got what he wanted”. But to those of us with intelligence, we’ll see Brown for the idiot he is. As long as teams can release guys under contract and not pay them, players should be able to walk away from deals. NFLPA should have negotiated. The more I see the more I realize that the players caved in like crackheads getting free hits!

  104. commentcentral says: Sep 2, 2011 9:57 AM

    @Deb: You’re not too bright, are you?

    No. They could trade him. They could cut him loose … although they’d still have to pay him. They do not have to cut someone who wants to be there in order to hold Carson Palmer hostage. Mike Brown created this situation. Are the other players he’s traded spoiled quitters, too, or is that just reserved for Palmer? You can’t have it both ways.

    _________________

    No, Palmer created this situation. If he would have lived up to his contract there would be no situation. Period. What other players did he trade that were threatening to sit out? Esiason? . . . but he played for another year. Also, my comments were based on Mike Brown’s statements he wasn’t going to trade him. So therefore, they would have to let someone go.

    Perhaps you should be commenting on crochet or cooking boards.

  105. beelicker says: Sep 2, 2011 1:21 PM

    @ Deb >>> they’d still have to pay him <<<

    No they wouldn't if they cut him loose or traded him before the KO of the first game & then they would not owe him his entire salary guaranteed this season as a vested veteran. Brown could still go after the million or more in fines though, likely making the payment of any money they did owe him contingent on the Garcon Palmierre paying that fine $$$ first.

    There's probably precedent for that being "conduct detrimental" as well.

    btw, Palmer is not nearly mobile enough for the rollouts, bootlegs & sprints inherent in the WCO der Bingles are running now.

    Dalton may have Ken Anderson's #14, who was the first QB to become a superstar under OC Bill Walsh back when he & PB first invented the North Coast of Kentucky offense (what eventually became misnomered as the WCO) back in the '70s when tragic Bengal matinee bigarm QB Greg Cook hurt his shoulder and Walsh/Brown found gritty running QB with a weak arm Virgil Carter & devised the scheme to fit his talents & ended up taking them to the playoffs (winning the last 8 games) with it in the Bengals' 3rd expansion season.

    That's the legacy Bengal who AD the QB savant is actually channeling!

    The vacuum left by Palmierre's antics has actually unified this team deep in a bunker behind Red "Ryder" Dalton. Kicking #s 85, 81 & 9 to the curb will come to be seen as the ultimate ironical "addition by subtraction" situation by 2009's NFL coach of the year Marvin Lewis..

    4-0 start/SHOCK THE WORLD/Make My Whodey!!

  106. Deb says: Sep 2, 2011 1:46 PM

    flagstaffphotos says:

    Carson Palmer still doesn’t understand – the Bengals biggest problem in recent years has been … Carson Palmer.

    2005 is a long time ago – he’s got poor accuracy, poor arm strength, and poor progression with his reads. What’s left of his game falls completely apart under pressure. He pads his stats at the ends of meaningless games, but overall he just doesn’t have the skill set of a quality NFL starting qb. He should go ahead and stay retired – it’s not going to end well for him.

    —————————————–

    I don’t disagree with this :) But let the guy go somewhere else and find out for himself. Why force a player to stay with at that age, after all those years, when you’re letting other players go? It’s not a happy situation when a guy wants out so desperately.

  107. Deb says: Sep 2, 2011 1:59 PM

    @commentcentral …

    Those goofball crochet-club comments are the refuge of dimwits who can’t intelligently discuss the issue. He isn’t threatening to sit out. He’s threatening to retire. There’s a difference, which seems to be lost on you. I imagine that’s a regular occurrence. My point was that Mike Brown doesn’t have to cut someone else in order to hold Palmer hostage. He is choosing to do so. That should be obvious, but perhaps you’ll have to sit quietly to let it sink in.

    @beelicker …

    Yes, Brown could trade him and end this whole thing.

    I really admire your optimism!! And that’s why I disagree so much with Brown. That team isn’t going anywhere with Carson Palmer under center. I agree with flagstaffphotos that Palmer isn’t as good as he thinks. I’m just not sure if his misery at playing in Cincy has killed his passion, or if he lacks the skills, as flagstaff said. Either way, he’s not doing the team any good and neither is this tug-o’-war.

    So let him go. Begin a new era with players who want to be there!

  108. ocgunslinger says: Sep 2, 2011 2:44 PM

    skiha says: Sep 1, 2011 9:16 PM

    This coming from a true Bengals fan: you are the worst kind of fan; calling yourself a “former fan”. I don’t care how bad your franchise is, no one should jump ship. If you can that then you are admitting that you are a fair weather fan.

    As a former Rams fan who held season seats for many years when they were a terrible team and then that witch moved the team to St. Louis I disagree with your assessment…..especially when it is the team that jumps ship.

  109. commentcentral says: Sep 2, 2011 3:02 PM

    @Deb
    You take a shot at me and then get all defensive when I take one back . . . typical.

    On my original statement I was making a very easy to understand point (assuming Mike Brown is a man of his word when he said that Carson will only play for the Bengals) if Carson shows up the Bengals will have to cut a player. That’s why it was also assumed by PFT they’d keep his brother in case Carson showed up his brother would be the odd man out (cut).

    and your statement: “Are the other players he’s traded spoiled quitters, too, or is that just reserved for Palmer? You can’t have it both ways.”

    That is such a straw man, pardon straw person, argument. You state a position I didn’t make and say I can’t have it both ways.

    Is this really Mrs. Palmer?

  110. Deb says: Sep 2, 2011 4:08 PM

    commentcentral …

    First, I’m not defensive. I think you’re funny.

    Second, that “straw man” bit is another favorite of people who can’t think of anything original. Next you’ll be giving me “anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you.”

    Third, Mike Brown’s word wasn’t carved in stone and brought down from Mount Sinai by Moses. He does not have to cut anyone to hold Carson Palmer hostage. He has chosen this path. He can cut or trade Palmer instead. Amazing how that still hasn’t seeped in. You need more quiet time.

    But let’s say Mike is honor-bound (uh-huh) and to accommodate Palmer has no choice but to cut some poor fellow who’s desperate to play Bengal ball. That’s the nature of the business. Most teams started with around 90 players and by next week will whittle down to 53. Anyone the Bengals cuts would have been on the cusp anyway.

    Nope, not Mrs. Palmer. Carson doesn’t appeal to me anymore than he does most of the Bengals fans. But Matt Hasselbeck is a cutie.

  111. commentcentral says: Sep 2, 2011 4:59 PM

    A straw man comment is certainly legitimate when you are creating someone’s point to shoot it down. Now that is a lack of originality.

    Well at least now you agree with me that should Palmer decide to show up, and Brown being true to his word, Brown would have to cut someone.

    I suspect that Brown might do that as he’s already given him a $10 million signing bonus in 2003 and a $9 million bonus in 2006 in addition to his usual salary (don’t get your calculator out that’s $19 million in bonuses total). So what’s another $11 million or whatever it is this year.

    If he were to be traded and the new team did a new contract for him, I certainly wouldn’t give this guy another signing bonus. He could pull this retirement thing again.

    I seriously doubt he shows up though. It would mean living away from his family for a 16 week schedule or more if the Bengals make the playoffs (tongue in cheek), or dragging his family with him while they live in rent.

  112. Deb says: Sep 2, 2011 5:54 PM

    @commentcentral …

    Yes, you are very funny. I didn’t build your little strawman, but if that makes you feel better, scarecrow, play on. And yes, Mike Brown could feel compelled to stay true to his word. That would be a novel approach for him.

    You do realize, of course, that the signing bonuses paid in 2003 and 2006 applied to 2003 and 2006. Palmer earned his money then. Those bonuses have nothing to do with this contractual issue in 2011.

    Don’t grab your abacus, but you can afford quite a nice house rental with an income of $11.5 million, even minus several $30,000 fines. And many players spend 16 weeks aways from their families when they move from one team to another. I doubt that would be a major consideration. Again, that’s the nature of the business. My doubts about Palmer returning have more to do with questioning whether he has the wit or the nerve to pull a stunt like this. He’s just never struck me as that guy. But since he still hasn’t filed his retirement papers, I hold out hope he’ll surprise me.

    Brown isn’t a great owner. He reaps the rewards of the NFL’s revenue-sharing system while spending as little as possible to further his team. It’s not just about paying salaries. It’s about paying for appropriate training facilities, promoting the team, and doing right by the fans. Brown doesn’t. I believe players should honor their contracts. But there are exceptions to every rule. Palmer has done everything the Bengals have asked, and now he’s requested to be traded. And he did so in plenty of time for the Bengals to make a good deal that would benefit the team. Brown isn’t acting for the good of the organization in forcing this issue. He’s acting on his own ego. That’s why I’m backing Palmer.

  113. getweird4u says: Sep 2, 2011 7:43 PM

    @deb…really im supposed to feel sorry for palmer you talk about not being too bright….this team(with palmer throwing the fewest passes of his career swept the division including ur steelers 2 years ago,dont tell me about how he is so miserable about being in cincy.He is a child and i believe you talk out ur butt most of the time.

  114. getweird4u says: Sep 2, 2011 7:54 PM

    @ DebThose goofball crochet-club comments are the refuge of dimwits who can’t intelligently discuss the issue. He isn’t threatening to sit out. He’s threatening to retire. There’s a difference, which seems to be lost on you. I imagine that’s a regular occurrence. My point was that Mike Brown doesn’t have to cut someone else in order to hold Palmer hostage. He is choosing to do so. That should be obvious, but perhaps you’ll have to sit quietly to let it sink in.——————–
    Isn’t your entire dialog here insulting his intelligence,which is in its own way very infintile?

  115. Deb says: Sep 2, 2011 10:24 PM

    @getweird4u …

    ROFL … the end of that first post was really funny. As for insulting this guy … I give as good as I get on the football blogs, hon.

    We’re not talking about two years ago. You guys keep going back to old signing bonuses and 2009 season records. That has nothing to do with 2011. But if you want to talk about 2009, fine.

    What happened?

    It looked like you guys were really building something–especially with that secondary. And in one season you’re back in the basement, your star corner says he doesn’t mind taking a cut to play anywhere else, Ochocinco–who’s been more the face of your franchise than Palmer–is in New England, and your franchise QB would rather retire than play for Cincy. You guys can give me a gazillion thumbs-down, but obviously there’s something dysfunctional going on with the Bengals, and it starts with Mike Brown.

    Not trying to be a nasty troll to you guys. I really think the whole thing sucks for Bengals fans. Do you honestly want Palmer back knowing his attitude toward the team? Wouldn’t you rather have gotten some trade value for him?

  116. getweird4u says: Sep 3, 2011 8:40 PM

    @ deb No kidding there is something wrong with mike brown….thanx for that new bit of info

  117. steelerfannomatterwhat says: Sep 6, 2011 12:42 PM

    They should strap Palmer to the offensive line blocking trolley and have every Bengals player hit him at least once.

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