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Panthers to play starters two series Thursday

Carolina Panthers Newton is brought down after scrambling by Miami Dolphins Burnett during their pre-season NFL football game in Miami Reuters

Some teams are keeping their starters out of the fourth preseason entirely.

In Pittsburgh, Charlie Batch will start at quarterback.  The Saints and Bucs are going right past their backups and starting their No. 3 quarterbacks.  (And they are still charging full price tickets.)

The Panthers are taking a slightly different approach. Coach Ron Rivera said the team will play their starters two series, which is about one more than most teams.  That presumably means Cam Newton will give way to Jimmy Clausen by the end of the first quarter or so.

Despite increased talk that Clausen is challenging Newton for the No. 1 job, the Panthers have simply given no real indication that’s the case.

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  1. trbowman says: Sep 1, 2011 10:04 AM

    Cam Newton is terrible.

  2. brettfavrecellphone says: Sep 1, 2011 10:10 AM

    The Panthers have starters?

  3. derekjetersmansion says: Sep 1, 2011 10:17 AM

    Wait, I thought the whole point of the fans being against the players in the lockout was that it didn’t matter what name is on the back of the jersey?

    Football is football, right?

  4. jonbeaston says: Sep 1, 2011 10:20 AM

    2010 – Clausen
    2011 – Newton
    2012 – Luck????

  5. realitypolice says: Sep 1, 2011 10:22 AM

    Cam Newton may wind up being a great QB (doubt it), but there is absolutely no doubt (and I have watched alot of Carolina preseason football this year, for some reason) that Clausen gives them a better chance to win games now.

    Which means either:

    A) The Panthers hope starting Newton now will speed his development

    B) The Panthers could care less about winning games and would rather have another high draft pick next year

    C) They believe Newton sells more tickets than Clausen

    If I were a Panthers fan, I would be mildly annoyed by A, seriously annoyed by B, and furious about C.

    I’m curious which of the above scenarios Panther fans think is the actual case.

  6. jstheconqueror says: Sep 1, 2011 10:24 AM

    Cam Newton is going to need more than two series. He should play the entire game! He needs the work!

  7. notrelated says: Sep 1, 2011 10:25 AM

    @trbowman

    Fig Newtons however… are awesome.

  8. flapjackdaddy says: Sep 1, 2011 10:30 AM

    Who is talking about Clausen gaining ground on Newton? That is a complete fabrication, Gregg.

  9. chadmurdigan says: Sep 1, 2011 10:38 AM

    Clausen’s been getting a raw deal from Rivera the entire pre-season. His stats are far superior to Newton and why he’s getting the shaft the way he is doesn’t make any sense to many Panther fans. Hell, Newton doesn’t even have the brains to slide when he’s trying to run to gain a few years, and he’ll have to do a lot of running this year to score some points because his passing game sucks big time.

    If Newton starts against Kolb in the opener with Arizona, I predict a bad loss for the Cats.

  10. doe22us says: Sep 1, 2011 10:45 AM

    So who is interested in watching a bunch of slappies play? just wait till the real thing next week.

  11. chazatlas says: Sep 1, 2011 10:48 AM

    Cam is only a handful of yards away from exceeding the combined run yardage of ALL the Carolina qb’s combined for all of last season – in just 3 pre-season games. Saying Cam is terrible considering practically no off season, new coaching staff and both O and D-line with issues – is a stretch. Panthers have the toughest NFL schedule to boot. I am a die-hard Panther fan since we got the franchise and I have no problem with this being a rebuilding year. They will be back in regular NFC South contention within then next 2 yrs. And any Panther pansies out there wishing for Andrew Luck – your boyfriend left you at the alter last year. Screw him.

  12. chc4 says: Sep 1, 2011 11:05 AM

    A guaranteed 0-6 in the division is a tough way to start the season.

  13. catman72 says: Sep 1, 2011 11:20 AM

    Keep hating haters and prepare to eat your words.

    @realitypolice:

    The answer is “A”, if you think he has the goods (which the Panthers do) then why not let him play his way into the job?

  14. hlmatty1 says: Sep 1, 2011 11:34 AM

    Enough with the snide “they are charging full price for an exhibition game” complaint already. As you may remember, just a couple of months ago the owners wanted to make two of these games real games, but the players — with your backing — didn’t want to do it because if safety issues. So there can be no better safety step than to make sure their starters do not get hurt before the season starts.

    PLus, I am sure that if the owners charged kess than top price, the players would complain that the owners are just trying to screw them out of money again.

  15. dldove77 says: Sep 1, 2011 11:38 AM

    @realitypolice:

    The answer is D) Cam Newton gives the Panthers a better chance to win than Clausen or Anderson because he has much, much more talent.

    @chadmurdigan:

    Are you Clausen’s mom? Because only his relatives think he has been better than Newton this preseason. To say his stats have been far superior than Newton is downright ludicrous. Only one of them threw an INT for a TD. Clausen is abysmal and the only real chance he has of getting on the field is by getting into the landscaping business.

  16. sj39 says: Sep 1, 2011 11:52 AM

    Right on hlmatty1!

  17. chadmurdigan says: Sep 1, 2011 11:56 AM

    dldove77, you’ve apparently fallen in love with Newton’s phoney smile because there’s no way a sane woman could call Cam’s lousy passing stats anything but ludicrous.

    Clausen is far from abysmal, and you’ll be eating your words when Rivera pulls Newton after a few more quarters of bad passes, lame runs, and early season losses by a LOT of points.

  18. realitypolice says: Sep 1, 2011 11:59 AM

    chazatlas says:
    Sep 1, 2011 10:48 AM
    Cam is only a handful of yards away from exceeding the combined run yardage of ALL the Carolina qb’s combined for all of last season – in just 3 pre-season games.
    ====================

    I’m sorry, I thought he was a QB.

    Please supply me with the list of all the Super Bowl champions whose QBs ran better than they threw.

  19. bullethead527 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:04 PM

    Saints- Never would any body say they were good 4 years ago.

    Bucs- nobody ever saw them going 3-13 and then 10-6, even if they played the week NFC west. Win is a Win right.

    Falcons- after Vick left look what happened to that team, got a coach that quits mid season and they go 4-12, get a new QB then they go 11-5. 9-7, and 13-3

    Panthers went 1-15, then went 7-9 then to the Super Bowl with a record of 11-5, then we had a few 7-9 seasons then a 12-4 record. So dont tell me we cant bounce back in 1-2 years a compete….

  20. ajknox88 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:13 PM

    I think Cam can turn into an NFL quarterback with the right work ethic. But he’s not one right now in terms of skill level. Athleticism, yes. But, you don’t rely on your quarterback to run and win games, thats what your RB you just payed more than any other RB in the league.

    Panther’s fans, it’s ok to admit Cam isn’t as good as Clausen, and he might never be. But at least you can be optimistic about things. Just stop going over top on the guy. He’s completed less than 50% of his passes, and only like 2 to a wide reciever, the rest were to TE’s or RB’s (I’m not exaggerating). Let’s be honest he should be doing a lot better than that.

  21. FinFan68 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:17 PM

    Newton is a better athlete than Claussen. Claussen is a better QB than Newton. Odds are both those statements will be true next year as well. Claussen has been screwed over by the Panthers’ coaching staff and the hype of Cam’s #1 pick overall status. There is no way that he should have been the #1 pick but he had a legion of supporters and wishful thinkers that fogged the discussion. He may turn out to be a decent QB but I think he has a better chance at being a STUD tight end as long as he can catch.

  22. dldove77 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:18 PM

    @chadmurdigan

    Two things:

    1) There’s no longer any doubt that you are related to Clausen.

    2) Considering I’m on the winning side of this argument – the side that most, if not all, people who get paid to put together professional football teams are on – I seriously doubt that you’ll be right. After all, I have a full season of Clausen lowlights on which to draw my basis for this argument. If you want to watch Clausen play, I suggest you go back and watch those games. Enjoy them…he was, what…1-10 as a starter? I mean, really, you’re taking the side of JIMMY CLAUSEN? Did you just finally give up on hoping for a Ryan Leaf comeback?

  23. FinFan68 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:26 PM

    @bullethead527
    Many people said the Saints were good 4 years ago. Why wouldn’t they with the #1 offense and the NFCC game in the 2006 season?

  24. pilot2011 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:27 PM

    Newton is an unconventional type of qb… Why the hell would Rivera and Chudzinski play him like he is a Drew Brees prototype?

    What Cam Newton does is ball. If the man is open then fine, but Cam should run run and run some more, and let the defense try to stop him… Cause lets face it, he’s bigger and stronger than anyone on the opposing defense.

    The throws will come and his arm and accuracy will get better with time and experience… I have a feeling the entire NFL will see something completely different from Newton and the Panther in week 1 as opposed to what they have shown in the preseason.

    I firmly believe that, because IF this is the Panthers offense then they will get clobbered week in and week out… Rivera and Chud are too good of coaches to not know this. That is all.

  25. ajknox88 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:32 PM

    dldove77 says:
    Sep 1, 2011 12:18 PM
    @chadmurdigan

    Two things:

    1) There’s no longer any doubt that you are related to Clausen.

    2) Considering I’m on the winning side of this argument – the side that most, if not all, people who get paid to put together professional football teams are on – I seriously doubt that you’ll be right. After all, I have a full season of Clausen lowlights on which to draw my basis for this argument. If you want to watch Clausen play, I suggest you go back and watch those games. Enjoy them…he was, what…1-10 as a starter? I mean, really, you’re taking the side of JIMMY CLAUSEN? Did you just finally give up on hoping for a Ryan Leaf comeback?
    _______________

    You can’t blame him for losing all those games. It’s not like he was the QB of the Patriots, GB for example. If he was I assure you his record would be a lot better.*cough*mattcassell*cough*

  26. djp141 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:34 PM

    The Clausen love on this thread is laughable. He’ll be out of the league in 3 years.

  27. qdog112 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:44 PM

    notrelated says: Sep 1, 2011 10:25 AM

    @trbowman

    Fig Newtons however… are awesome.
    ——————————————————
    If you’re 90.

  28. qdog112 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:46 PM

    The NFL do not have preseason box scores available prior to 2008, but here are what some QBs since then did in preseason.

    •Joe Flacco: 35/67 (52.2%), 284 yards (4.2 YPA), 1 TD, 0 INT, 68.3 rating
    •Matthew Stafford: 30/55 (54.5%), 389 yards (7.1 YPA), 1 TD, 4 INT, 52.8 rating
    •Josh Freeman: 22/49 (44.9%), 238 yards (4.9 YPA), 1 TD, 3 INT, 41.0 rating
    •Cam Newton: 21/52 (40.3%), 275 yards (5.3 YPA), 0 TD, 0 INT, 58.2 rating

    Cam Newton is a bust… right? I’ve heard it mentioned here on PFT, and I’ve heard it from the strains of the masses on PFT, Yahoo, ESPN etc. Football fans are like Guy Pearce in Memento they have no memory. As it stands right now with one more game to play Newton has a better YPA than Flacco or Freeman had, had a QB rating higher than Stafford had and a completion percentage fairly close to Josh Freeman.

  29. sguy2130 says: Sep 1, 2011 12:48 PM

    What Cam Newton does is ball. If the man is open then fine, but Cam should run run and run some more, and let the defense try to stop him… Cause lets face it, he’s bigger and stronger than anyone on the opposing defense.

    The throws will come and his arm and accuracy will get better with time and experience… I have a feeling the entire NFL will see something completely different from Newton and the Panther in week 1 as opposed to what they have shown in the preseason.

    ————————————–
    Signed,

    Vince Young err.. pilot2011

  30. dldove77 says: Sep 1, 2011 1:09 PM

    @ajknox88

    Yes, I can, because I watched every single one of those awful performances.

    He’s skittish in the pocket and has no presence. If he isn’t holding it too long and taking the sack, he’s throwing it away too quickly. He’s inaccurate.

    He doesn’t inspire his teammates.

    His hair is stupid.

  31. ajknox88 says: Sep 1, 2011 1:40 PM

    @dldove77

    lol at the hair comment.

    So what your saying the Panthers record fell completely on his shoulders. The coaching staff, the defense, offensive line, recieving corps, all had nothing to do with the Panthers losing?

    My guess to that answer is yes they did have a lot more effect than Jimmy Clausen. Clausen is still on the team. Their coaching staff is gone. Their top reciever is gone. Some blame might be on him, but you can’t blame 1 person for a franchise failing in 1 year (unless you’re the Denver Broncos and Josh Mcdaniels is the head coach).

    That’s all my point is.

  32. petedutcher says: Sep 1, 2011 2:02 PM

    @Gregg Rosenthal
    The Bucs are not charging full price for hte 4th preseason game…the Redskins are. It’s an away game, silly.

  33. petedutcher says: Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM

    dldove77 says:
    Sep 1, 2011 1:09 PM
    @ajknox88

    Yes, I can, because I watched every single one of those awful performances.

    He’s skittish in the pocket and has no presence. If he isn’t holding it too long and taking the sack, he’s throwing it away too quickly. He’s inaccurate.

    He doesn’t inspire his teammates.

    His hair is stupid.

    And this is why you will not haver a good season this year. Clausen was a rookie. They are nearly always skittish. If the Panthers want to develop a QB, they need to be willing to commit to playing him and accepting the bad as he grows into a quality player.

  34. granadafan says: Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM

    It’s absurd that owners demand full ticket prices for putting an inferior product on the field.

  35. petedutcher says: Sep 1, 2011 2:09 PM

    Panthers fans better hope Newton wins some games before he faces the Bucs…because he’ll be killed by their new line.

  36. scg84 says: Sep 1, 2011 2:15 PM

    Have any of you guys that are preferring Clausen to Cam watched Jimmy play much for Carolina? Or are you still going by what people said about him coming out of college? 50% of the time passing plays are called, he holds the ball for five minutes, and ends up throwing it away, because he wastes what (very) little time the offensive line manages to provide for him. Cam’s made his share of bad throws, but that also means he’s made his share of throws, which is more than I can say for Jimmy.

    I like Jimmy, but he doesn’t give us a better chance to win football games than Cam.

    If you want to argue Derek Anderson gives us a better chance to win right now, I could see that argument. He’s familiar with Chud, and had his best season under him. But, I’d still prefer Cam to start because I’d rather have 2, 3, or 4 wins and try to build for the future than win maybe 5 or 6 with a guy that’s past his prime and who isn’t our long-term guy.

  37. dldove77 says: Sep 1, 2011 2:27 PM

    Fox is gone but Smith (leading receiver) is not.

    You can’t blame one person, but there’s a reason that wins and losses are attached to QBs and no other position. They have to be the smartest person on the field and they have the ball in their hands more than any other player. When you play as poorly as Clausen did last year, you deserve the vast majority bit of the blame. Everything starts with the quarterback.

    Take the Bears game in week 5 last season. Clausen was a pathetic 9/22 for 60 yards and an INT and two fumbles before he got pulled. The Carolina defense forced Todd Collins to throw three first half INTs. Clausen couldn’t lead the Panthers to a single point off of any of those turnovers.

    That’s just one example. I can go on, but please don’t make me revisit his games. Have mercy on me and everyone else reading these comments.

  38. chadmurdigan says: Sep 1, 2011 3:15 PM

    dldove77, last season was last season so pull your head out of the past which is irrelevant at this pint and focus on what’s happening THIS year.

    Cam Newton’s not ever going to be an elite NFL quarterback. That’s painfully obvious when you compare him to other first round QB draft choices who are seizing control of their teams and scoring touchdowns.

    Cam has a wonderful smile (if you like that sort of thing on quarterbacks, which I don’t), but that’s about the best thing he’s shown the fans so far this pre-season.

    I’m not saying Clausen is an elite QB, but I am saying that the Doughboy has more potential than Newton, and by the end of this NFL season, you’ll be agreeing with me and apologizing for being a tool on the PFT comment section because Clausen will be starting and Cam will be working on improving his game while expanding his cultural icon activities and endorsement deals before it’s too late.

  39. stairwayto7 says: Sep 1, 2011 3:48 PM

    If $Cam Newton does not do anything vs the Steelers backup ecpect no more than 2 wins from the Panthers this year…

  40. feldman9000 says: Sep 1, 2011 4:47 PM

    2 Reasons to hate Jimmy Clausen.

    1. He showed up in a limo to his signing day.

    2. He played for Notre Dame

    Never. Ever draft a player from Notre Dame. Golden Tate, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen. All hyped. All garbage.

    Hey Golden, how bout you get a ride in the Truck Series and see if you can even compete with those jokes. However they’re more relevant than you are now.

  41. dldove77 says: Sep 1, 2011 4:51 PM

    @chadmurdigan

    You’re wrong. About everything. Including the idea that you aren’t into Cam’s smile. I’m sure you’re also into Jimmy’s smile.

    And if you aren’t basing Clausen’s 2011 play on his 2010 performance, exactly what leads you to believe he’ll be so great? Because based on EVERYTHING I’ve seen this preseason, he is just as horrible this year as he was last year. (Which is being kind.)

    So, in conclusion, you’re wrong, I’m right, I won’t be apologizing, and you are in love with Jimmy Clausen. Are we clear on those facts?

  42. cplat2010 says: Sep 1, 2011 6:19 PM

    Clausen seriously was cheated last year. His coaching staff quit, no OL, used 3rd string RB, and did i mention the OL was terrible! He did not have a fair shot, but at best i think he is a back up QB.

    Cam looks like every rookie QB in pre-season making terrible throws, moving out the pocket etc… He had a short camp, but I think overall he is much better than clausen. He will have a rough year this year, but his attitude will make him improve fast and prove many wrong.

    If we draft Andrew Luck next year, which we wont becasue we will not be the worst team in the league, but if we do you can look for me on ESPN getting arrested for kicking Marty Hurney in the sack!

  43. chazatlas says: Sep 2, 2011 4:39 AM

    realitypolice says:
    Sep 1, 2011 11:59 AM
    chazatlas says:
    Sep 1, 2011 10:48 AM
    Cam is only a handful of yards away from exceeding the combined run yardage of ALL the Carolina qb’s combined for all of last season – in just 3 pre-season games.
    ====================

    I’m sorry, I thought he was a QB.

    Please supply me with the list of all the Super Bowl champions whose QBs ran better than they threw.
    ====================
    realitypolice – how about some reality? Ever heard of the benefits of a QB that could scramble in case the pocket collapses? Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rogers – all three Super Bowl Champions whose ability to scramble helped make them champs. My point was that Cam’s running ability can turn a sack on a Clausen or a Delhomme into a first down or touchdown. He has only run outside the pocket a few times. Cam being able to run when he needs to is an incredible asset.

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