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“Huge gap” between Brees, Saints

Drew Brees, Rolando McClain AP

As Saints quarterback Drew Brees pointed out earlier this week, Brees and the team have launched contract talks.

But those talks could take a while.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, a “huge gap” exists between what Brees wants and what the Saints will pay.  As a result, nothing is imminent.

That said, the Chris Johnson contract talks demonstrate how quickly things can turn around.  But before Brees can push the needle toward his best-case scenario, he may need to get through the 2011 season unscathed, which would give him maximum leverage as of February 2012, once the Saints apply a franchise tag that will put him in line for a one-year guaranteed salary that likely will exceed $17 million.  Both Peyton Manning and Mike Vick had to do just that before they could land their new deals.

On the other hand, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady finagled an annual average of $18 million without having to complete his contract year of 2010.

Still, if Brees wants to do a deal now, he’ll necessarily get less than he’d get if he lets the 2011 season play out.  The ultimate question for Brees is whether and to what extent he’s willing to shoulder the burden of that ever-present injury risk.

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37 Responses to ““Huge gap” between Brees, Saints”
  1. billinva says: Sep 3, 2011 10:56 AM

    Pay this guy whatever he wants.

  2. dallas001 says: Sep 3, 2011 10:58 AM

    His window is closing with this team,, yes he won a superbowl, but is he a brady or manning ? The saints are gonna win this one if the 2011 team doesnt quite perform the way it should,and all indicators this teams taken a small step back….

  3. brownsfn says: Sep 3, 2011 11:13 AM

    When will these RIDICULOUS contracts finally stop going up ten fold…where is the breaking point???

  4. dkeyser says: Sep 3, 2011 11:20 AM

    for all his “god willed me to New Orleans” talk, he better be willing to work with the management.

  5. robf2010 says: Sep 3, 2011 11:25 AM

    I don’t believe that. I can’t believe that he’s asking for much more than Peyton Manning money and I can’t believe the Saints are offering much less than Peyton Manning money so how could a “huge gap” exist? The Saints know what the market for Brees is and Brees knows what his market value is. They’re going to let him play a season and, then, franchise him? That will cost them even more, especially if he wins a Super Bowl. Saints are geared up for a big season and Drew will be the main man. Admit this to yourselves, Saints. Drew has all of the leverage. There’s no way you can let him walk. Season ticket sales would plummet and a window of opportunity for more championships will close. The fans would never forgive you. You have no Aaron Rodgers or Steve Young waiting in the wings. You have no choice. Stop messing around. Just bite the bullet and do the right thing.

  6. binkystevens says: Sep 3, 2011 11:27 AM

    It’s okay, you should definitely pay him whatever he asks for. Did you not know what a great leader he was? And that he single-handedly negotiated the new terms of the CBA contract? He also spends his free time saving whales and hosting players-only practices during the lockout, in which he pays for everyone’s lodging (and then makes sure to tell the media). Such a model citizen, just ask him.

  7. ravenator says: Sep 3, 2011 11:28 AM

    Brees is a greedy scumbag. Enough said. He showed it during the lockout. I have lost all respect for you Brees. I can’t wait to watch the Packers secondary own you on Thursday.

  8. vikesandravens78 says: Sep 3, 2011 11:32 AM

    I thought Brees loved the city of New Orleans and that’s what he rallied behind in his Superbowl win… It’s all about the money. Always has been with him, always will be.

  9. indianheadmeatpackingcompany says: Sep 3, 2011 11:35 AM

    Ummm, this is how contracts ALWAYS go. One side aims higher than they expect or are willing to take, the other side goes lower. After talking for awhile they settle on a number in the middle. It’s called NEGOTIATING. If the player offered a number and the team instantly agreed it would mean that the player didn’t get as much as he could have and the team payed less than they should have paid. This is NO STORY as it happens basically every time a new contract is written for a player. It happens more with the super stars because they have more power (fan support and jersey sales/promo for the team). This happens ALL THE TIME.

  10. godofware says: Sep 3, 2011 11:37 AM

    If there wasn’t a huge gap this early in negotiations I would say one of the two sides don’t know how to negotiate.

  11. goawayeverybody says: Sep 3, 2011 11:39 AM

    I love Drew Brees and I love my Saints but Drew needs to get through this season without giving up the pigskin so many times like he did last year. If he throws 20+ interceptions again he doesn’t deserve an obscene contract like the one Peyton Manning got.

  12. CKL says: Sep 3, 2011 11:40 AM

    Condon=”huge gap”. Take that how you will. :P

  13. goawayeverybody says: Sep 3, 2011 11:41 AM

    Hey vikesandravens, it’s called a negotiation session. You are just bitter because both your teams are terrible. Also, Drew Brees paid for players’ insurance out of his own pocket this summer when they had their player-organized workouts. You have no clue what you are talking about.

  14. robf2010 says: Sep 3, 2011 11:43 AM

    “I can’t wait to watch the Packers secondary own you on Thursday.”

    The last time they “owned” him, he hung up 51 points on them.

  15. chmba says: Sep 3, 2011 11:50 AM

    Brees is probably good for another year or two; far apart may mean in contract years and guarantee. I think he is already showing signs of dropping off and he apparently was a real trouble maker during the negotiations. I say franchise him and see if they really want him after this year and next.

  16. pspring63 says: Sep 3, 2011 11:51 AM

    Drew Brees and New Orleans were two souls that met and formed a strong co-dependence that led to an unbelievable run to the Super Bowl and lifted the visibility of the city to unprecedented heights. Time has marched forward and both Brees and NOLA are in different frames of mind. Brees has moved his vision beyond the Saints and now references himself to the group of elite quarterbacks as much as he does as a Saint. Brees was not the same QB last year. You can notion up all the reasons this occurred, but facts are facts. Do you pay him for past results or for future performance? Either way, by the end of negotiations between the two sides we shall see whether money/greed or passion and “family” are more decisive in determining the future of Brees and the Saints franchise.

  17. souldogdave says: Sep 3, 2011 11:54 AM

    Sounds like typical saber-rattling , they should pay the man.

  18. mediasloppy says: Sep 3, 2011 12:08 PM

    What would Breezus do.

  19. aldavisisthenfl says: Sep 3, 2011 12:22 PM

    Brees was let go in San Diego mainly because of his salary demands. He was ready to sign with Miami because they offered the most $$ plain & simple. New Orleans made a last second pitch (cough, cough) offered more money. It will be the same deal again, when will the fans learn…it’s no longer the love of the game, it’s love of money……….

  20. cakemixa says: Sep 3, 2011 12:23 PM

    Great example of PFT painting the picture of a bad guy player

  21. bullcharger says: Sep 3, 2011 12:28 PM

    They’ll pay him. He’s still great. Who are they going to get instead? It’s either Drew or they go back to mediocrity.

  22. youboettcha says: Sep 3, 2011 12:38 PM

    @robf2010

    I’m pretty sure that was three seasons ago, when the Packers went 6-10. The last two seasons, the packers have had a top 10 defense with three pro-bowlers in the secondary.

  23. bullcharger says: Sep 3, 2011 12:39 PM

    vikesandravens78 says:Sep 3, 2011 11:32 AM

    I thought Brees loved the city of New Orleans and that’s what he rallied behind in his Superbowl win… It’s all about the money. Always has been with him, always will be.

    ———————

    I don’t get why people would slag a player for trying to get the most money they can. All of us would do the same. There’s this sense that because they make so much they shouldn’t care about making more. That makes no sense. Not many middle class americans need all the money they have, and always want more if they can get it to further support their family etc. Not many people give it all away and live on what they truly need.

    In a free market you are worth what you can get, plain and simple.

  24. robf2010 says: Sep 3, 2011 12:52 PM

    “Brees was let go in San Diego mainly because of his salary demands.”

    WRONG. Brees was let go because he was injured, his contract was up, and they had Phillip Rivers waiting in the wings. Despite his shoulder injury, the Saints stepped up and offered him a big contract right up front. Nick Saban and the Dolphins were all business and expressed concerns about his injury. The Saints simply wanted him more than the Dolphins and Brees went for that. Paid off big time. Best free agent signing ever … in any sport.

  25. dd393 says: Sep 3, 2011 12:54 PM

    Maybe he should sue somebody. Oh, yeah, wait a minute. Already been there, done that.

  26. robf2010 says: Sep 3, 2011 12:58 PM

    “a top 10 defense with three pro-bowlers in the secondary.”

    Woodson got smoked for at least two of the touchdowns. Is he one of those all-pros? He’s three years older now and he couldn’t cover Marques Colston or Lance Moore last time. The Pack had the top-rated secondary then.

  27. 504in860 says: Sep 3, 2011 1:00 PM

    Yes, I remember Brees saying he didn’t like the attitude of Saban and the Dolphins. But when he visited the Saints, he realized how much they genuinely wanted him on the team.

    It worked out well for both parties.

  28. calvikefan1 says: Sep 3, 2011 1:05 PM

    Yeah, pay the man whatever he wants, ……front office, well I guess we’ll have to raise ticket prices again.

  29. mikemcsaint says: Sep 3, 2011 1:12 PM

    As I read all of the anti-Brees posts on this site, I have to wonder, is ignorance a prerequisite?

  30. tdrundmc says: Sep 3, 2011 1:19 PM

    captain checkdown

  31. grogansheroes says: Sep 3, 2011 2:24 PM

    pay who dat

  32. bng7 says: Sep 3, 2011 2:30 PM

    “…shoulder the burden…”. Tremendous.

  33. billinlouisiana says: Sep 3, 2011 2:34 PM

    aldavisisthenfl says:
    Sep 3, 2011 12:22 PM
    Brees was let go in San Diego mainly because of his salary demands. He was ready to sign with Miami because they offered the most $$ plain & simple. New Orleans made a last second pitch (cough, cough) offered more money. It will be the same deal again, when will the fans learn…it’s no longer the love of the game, it’s love of money……….

    ————————————————-
    A perfect example of revisionist history.

  34. saintsfan1112 says: Sep 3, 2011 5:40 PM

    Pay him everything he wants and more. If we lose Brees, we lose all chances of staying good. I love the Saints, and I hate to say it, but it’s the truth.

  35. dd393 says: Sep 3, 2011 8:06 PM

    504in860 says: Sep 3, 2011 1:00 PM

    Yes, I remember Brees saying he didn’t like the attitude of Saban and the Dolphins. But when he visited the Saints, he realized how much they genuinely wanted him on the team.

    It worked out well for both parties.

    ==================================

    Awww. Hugs all around.

    All you have to do to beat Brees is to make him throw deep. Not enough arm. Enough wallet, though.

  36. vikesandravens78 says: Sep 3, 2011 9:11 PM

    @goawayeverybody At least the Ravens lost to a team that was above .500 last season.

  37. 504in860 says: Sep 3, 2011 10:07 PM

    dd393 says:
    Sep 3, 2011 8:06 PM

    Awww. Hugs all around.

    All you have to do to beat Brees is to make him throw deep. Not enough arm. Enough wallet, though.
    —————————————————

    Is this the moment I tell you that Brees is top 5 in completion percentage of deep throws? It’s amazing you’re not coaching or playing though, since you know so much.

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