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		<title>By: lnfinite</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huge fine for using water pills....  Just another way the Vikes get screwed over by the NFL.  Replay goofs and uncalled penalties and when all else fails find a scapegoat in purple.

Get bent Goddell..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huge fine for using water pills&#8230;.  Just another way the Vikes get screwed over by the NFL.  Replay goofs and uncalled penalties and when all else fails find a scapegoat in purple.</p>
<p>Get bent Goddell..</p>
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		<title>By: mikemcsaint</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And as far as them trying to loose weight, yes that is what they were trying to do. Almost all NFL players have bonuses tied to reporting weight when training camp starts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as far as them trying to loose weight, yes that is what they were trying to do. Almost all NFL players have bonuses tied to reporting weight when training camp starts.</p>
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		<title>By: mikemcsaint</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;ll have to hold my breathe while I side with the Viking fans here, but what the NFL did in this situation is even worse than given. Deuce McAlister was also part of this. He called the NFL office before taking the diuretic, as is prescribed by the NFL drug polcy, and was told BY THE NFL, that the no illegal substance was included in the ingredients. Once he took it, it was discovered that, randomly, some bottles contained the banned substance and some did not. The NFL&#039;s response was still,&quot; policy dictates that a player is repsonsible for what he ingests, injects, or otherwise uses.&quot; I am all for the NFL&#039;s stance on PED&#039;s but this case is absurd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ll have to hold my breathe while I side with the Viking fans here, but what the NFL did in this situation is even worse than given. Deuce McAlister was also part of this. He called the NFL office before taking the diuretic, as is prescribed by the NFL drug polcy, and was told BY THE NFL, that the no illegal substance was included in the ingredients. Once he took it, it was discovered that, randomly, some bottles contained the banned substance and some did not. The NFL&#8217;s response was still,&#8221; policy dictates that a player is repsonsible for what he ingests, injects, or otherwise uses.&#8221; I am all for the NFL&#8217;s stance on PED&#8217;s but this case is absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Gerbschmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Gerbschmidt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[buhbay1c says: 
Sep 4, 2011 10:52 AM 
Carl Gerbschmidt says:
If you don’t like it, then don’t cheat.

Take it easy Carl. I wouldn’t call taking a diuretic cheating. If that’s the case then I guess you could call the packer fans that take them to squeeze into size 48 jeans cheaters too.

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yeah, I&#039;m sure they were just trying to lose weight. What are they? High school wrestlers....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buhbay1c says:<br />
Sep 4, 2011 10:52 AM<br />
Carl Gerbschmidt says:<br />
If you don’t like it, then don’t cheat.</p>
<p>Take it easy Carl. I wouldn’t call taking a diuretic cheating. If that’s the case then I guess you could call the packer fans that take them to squeeze into size 48 jeans cheaters too.</p>
<p>______</p>
<p>yeah, I&#8217;m sure they were just trying to lose weight. What are they? High school wrestlers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: truthserum4u</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ kennyrogerschicken

If it were pedigree, why didn&#039;t he play more in high school?  Why wasn&#039;t he highly recruited?  Why didn&#039;t he start before his final year @ USC?  Why did he experience a massive and sudden body change in a short period of time?  

If you&#039;ve got the pedigree then you have the pedigree.  The skills are natural and inate, you don&#039;t don&#039;t suddenly develope them so much later in life.  

The story in and around USC was that there were numerous players &quot;enhancing&quot; their bodies and Matthews was among them.  

While people are right, until they catch him he is presumed innocent in a court of law.  However, he&#039;s in the court of public opinion, and as many celebrities have found out throughout the years, no such edict exists there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ kennyrogerschicken</p>
<p>If it were pedigree, why didn&#8217;t he play more in high school?  Why wasn&#8217;t he highly recruited?  Why didn&#8217;t he start before his final year @ USC?  Why did he experience a massive and sudden body change in a short period of time?  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got the pedigree then you have the pedigree.  The skills are natural and inate, you don&#8217;t don&#8217;t suddenly develope them so much later in life.  </p>
<p>The story in and around USC was that there were numerous players &#8220;enhancing&#8221; their bodies and Matthews was among them.  </p>
<p>While people are right, until they catch him he is presumed innocent in a court of law.  However, he&#8217;s in the court of public opinion, and as many celebrities have found out throughout the years, no such edict exists there.</p>
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		<title>By: truthserum4u</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t Williams renegotiate this year&#039;s contract this week, before he starts getting paid on Sunday?  The NFL is docing him game day pay checks and he hasn&#039;t started receivig those yet.  He could take a salary of say 1 million and the remaining five million adjusted to a bonus.  Renegotiating the contract could also help the team with the salary cap.  


Many of you on here are forgetting that one of the players (Duece McAllister I believe) asked about the product via the NFL&#039;s hotline and never got a straight answer.  

Also, the league allowed previous players who tested positive for the same thing to get off without punishment.  In the regular working world, non systematic punishment would open up a whole can of worms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t Williams renegotiate this year&#8217;s contract this week, before he starts getting paid on Sunday?  The NFL is docing him game day pay checks and he hasn&#8217;t started receivig those yet.  He could take a salary of say 1 million and the remaining five million adjusted to a bonus.  Renegotiating the contract could also help the team with the salary cap.  </p>
<p>Many of you on here are forgetting that one of the players (Duece McAllister I believe) asked about the product via the NFL&#8217;s hotline and never got a straight answer.  </p>
<p>Also, the league allowed previous players who tested positive for the same thing to get off without punishment.  In the regular working world, non systematic punishment would open up a whole can of worms.</p>
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		<title>By: Land Snark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Land Snark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@wtfru2

These guys weren&#039;t suspended for *not* taking NFL approved products. 

They were suspended for having a banned substance in their system. 

It&#039;s completely their fault. There&#039;s a list of banned substances the NFL has published. It&#039;s upon the players to know what their &quot;supplements&quot; contain.

If they don&#039;t want to go through the trouble of getting it checked out they can stick with EAS, the only NFL approved supplement supplier.

These guys had to pay more because they fought it rather than taking responsibility for their error.

I have zero sympathy for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@wtfru2</p>
<p>These guys weren&#8217;t suspended for *not* taking NFL approved products. </p>
<p>They were suspended for having a banned substance in their system. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s completely their fault. There&#8217;s a list of banned substances the NFL has published. It&#8217;s upon the players to know what their &#8220;supplements&#8221; contain.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t want to go through the trouble of getting it checked out they can stick with EAS, the only NFL approved supplement supplier.</p>
<p>These guys had to pay more because they fought it rather than taking responsibility for their error.</p>
<p>I have zero sympathy for them.</p>
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		<title>By: scudbot</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[drstrangelust wins today&#039;s  Viketard Total Hypocrite Award by  posting &quot;when does Clay Matthews start HIS suspension for HGH use?&quot; and then mere minutes later assaulted another poster with &quot;If you dont know the facts of the case, just stay away from the adult conversations!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drstrangelust wins today&#8217;s  Viketard Total Hypocrite Award by  posting &#8220;when does Clay Matthews start HIS suspension for HGH use?&#8221; and then mere minutes later assaulted another poster with &#8220;If you dont know the facts of the case, just stay away from the adult conversations!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: claymath52</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes we reap what we sow.  That is the case for Kevin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes we reap what we sow.  That is the case for Kevin.</p>
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		<title>By: kennyrogerschicken</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[deconjonesbitchslap -

You&#039;re bitter, I get it. Seriously, do any Vikings fans think that maybe, just maybe, Matthews is good because he&#039;s got the pedigree? His dad, his uncle, hell, even his brother is in the NFL. Or is it just the supposed HGH use making him great?

Nevermind, Vikings fans, I already know your answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deconjonesbitchslap -</p>
<p>You&#8217;re bitter, I get it. Seriously, do any Vikings fans think that maybe, just maybe, Matthews is good because he&#8217;s got the pedigree? His dad, his uncle, hell, even his brother is in the NFL. Or is it just the supposed HGH use making him great?</p>
<p>Nevermind, Vikings fans, I already know your answer.</p>
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		<title>By: kennyrogerschicken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kennyrogerschicken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[realitypolice says: Sep 4, 2011 10:17 AM

Maybe it was important to them to keep fighting it because they didn’t do anything wrong.

It happened so long ago that maybe people have forgotten the details:

The supplement these guys took contained a banned substance that didn’t appear in the list of ingredients. The NFL knew the supplement contained the banned substance, but the players did not.

The league did not tell players around the league what they knew about Starcaps, but admitted after these guys tested positive that they knew it contained the banned substance.

These guys had a case, and did what they thought was right. I’m sure it occurred to them (or at least their agents) that they would be making more money now than they were three years ago, but they obviously decided it was a fight worth fighting.

Good for them.

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Yeah, good for them. I mean, it&#039;s not like only 5 players out of several hundreds tested positive for something the NFL didn&#039;t let anyone know was banned, right? 

Yeah, good luck arguing that case and winning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realitypolice says: Sep 4, 2011 10:17 AM</p>
<p>Maybe it was important to them to keep fighting it because they didn’t do anything wrong.</p>
<p>It happened so long ago that maybe people have forgotten the details:</p>
<p>The supplement these guys took contained a banned substance that didn’t appear in the list of ingredients. The NFL knew the supplement contained the banned substance, but the players did not.</p>
<p>The league did not tell players around the league what they knew about Starcaps, but admitted after these guys tested positive that they knew it contained the banned substance.</p>
<p>These guys had a case, and did what they thought was right. I’m sure it occurred to them (or at least their agents) that they would be making more money now than they were three years ago, but they obviously decided it was a fight worth fighting.</p>
<p>Good for them.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Yeah, good for them. I mean, it&#8217;s not like only 5 players out of several hundreds tested positive for something the NFL didn&#8217;t let anyone know was banned, right? </p>
<p>Yeah, good luck arguing that case and winning.</p>
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		<title>By: doe22us</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Booyah exactly what I said, sometimes its better to have lost the war than to drag it on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booyah exactly what I said, sometimes its better to have lost the war than to drag it on.</p>
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		<title>By: ytsejamer1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been shocked by the NFL&#039;s refusal to let this thing die...they were doggedly determined to fine these guys...and at this point a few years after the fact, what really was the impact to the game?  Nothing...they just wanted to prove their point.  That&#039;s what grates me about the whole issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been shocked by the NFL&#8217;s refusal to let this thing die&#8230;they were doggedly determined to fine these guys&#8230;and at this point a few years after the fact, what really was the impact to the game?  Nothing&#8230;they just wanted to prove their point.  That&#8217;s what grates me about the whole issue.</p>
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		<title>By: quirtevans</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[quirtevans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They chose to fight it.  Sometimes, when you fight, you lose.  Football players should understand that as well as anyone.

The upside would have been no suspension at all.  Surely, if they want to take a chance on getting the upside, they have to risk a downside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They chose to fight it.  Sometimes, when you fight, you lose.  Football players should understand that as well as anyone.</p>
<p>The upside would have been no suspension at all.  Surely, if they want to take a chance on getting the upside, they have to risk a downside.</p>
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		<title>By: deconjonesbitchslap</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so when can we expect Clay Matthews Jr. to get busted?  what  a mystery it is that he AND cushing test positive before the draft, but magically, those tests are thrown out and everything is just fine. pete carroll would never advocate cheating.  I guess I must be a bitter Vikings fan, just jealous. I mean, USC during that decade had the highest standards, and would never, ever cheat on anything...they were boyscouts over there.  you look up morals and ethics, USC set those standards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so when can we expect Clay Matthews Jr. to get busted?  what  a mystery it is that he AND cushing test positive before the draft, but magically, those tests are thrown out and everything is just fine. pete carroll would never advocate cheating.  I guess I must be a bitter Vikings fan, just jealous. I mean, USC during that decade had the highest standards, and would never, ever cheat on anything&#8230;they were boyscouts over there.  you look up morals and ethics, USC set those standards.</p>
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		<title>By: drstrangelust</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drstrangelust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[misfit74 says:
Sep 4, 2011 11:02 AM
That’s it! ONLY do steroids when you are about to retire!
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Holy God, are you that much of an Fing idiot?  Or are you just an A-hole?  Nobody has ever accused him of doing steroids!  If you dont know the facts of the case, just stay away from the adult conversations!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>misfit74 says:<br />
Sep 4, 2011 11:02 AM<br />
That’s it! ONLY do steroids when you are about to retire!<br />
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<p>Holy God, are you that much of an Fing idiot?  Or are you just an A-hole?  Nobody has ever accused him of doing steroids!  If you dont know the facts of the case, just stay away from the adult conversations!</p>
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		<title>By: drstrangelust</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drstrangelust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[canetic says:
Sep 4, 2011 10:10 AM
Boo hoo. You know what costs people a lot of a money? A 9% unemployment rate.
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Best post of the day!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>canetic says:<br />
Sep 4, 2011 10:10 AM<br />
Boo hoo. You know what costs people a lot of a money? A 9% unemployment rate.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Best post of the day!</p>
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		<title>By: lexnekst</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of the rich complaining about taxes- If you make enough to where millions of dollars is a PERCENTAGE of your income. I don&#039;t feel sorry for you. My check is $400 (bi-weekly!) and I&#039;d kill to make $6million and pay $1.7 million in fines, and half in taxes, it still equals....MORE THAN $400 EVERY 2 WEEKS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the rich complaining about taxes- If you make enough to where millions of dollars is a PERCENTAGE of your income. I don&#8217;t feel sorry for you. My check is $400 (bi-weekly!) and I&#8217;d kill to make $6million and pay $1.7 million in fines, and half in taxes, it still equals&#8230;.MORE THAN $400 EVERY 2 WEEKS!</p>
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		<title>By: welzy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bears46 says:Sep 4, 2011 10:56 AM 

All the fine money goes to charity so stop whining, and think about who that money may help…Big babies.
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So they get their money back?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bears46 says:Sep 4, 2011 10:56 AM </p>
<p>All the fine money goes to charity so stop whining, and think about who that money may help…Big babies.<br />
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So they get their money back?</p>
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		<title>By: lexnekst</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Who wants to work for free?”
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Every free agent trying to make a roster in the preseason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Who wants to work for free?”<br />
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Every free agent trying to make a roster in the preseason.</p>
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		<title>By: lexnekst</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lexnekst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somewhere, Clay Mathews is biding his time.....and taking HGH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere, Clay Mathews is biding his time&#8230;..and taking HGH.</p>
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		<title>By: lexnekst</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lexnekst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Williams said. “Who wants to work for free?”

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I would play football for free.  Unfortunately, Mr. Williams, the rest of us have to go to real jobs, where we get paid slightly above free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Williams said. “Who wants to work for free?”</p>
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<p>I would play football for free.  Unfortunately, Mr. Williams, the rest of us have to go to real jobs, where we get paid slightly above free.</p>
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		<title>By: welzy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[welzy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[drstrangelust says:Sep 4, 2011 10:50 AM 

So…when does Clay Matthews start HIS suspension for HGH use? Oh, thats right…the hypocrisy of the NFL rears its ugly head again!

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I suppose we might wait until Matthews actually uses HGH and there is proof of it. Last I checked, this is still America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drstrangelust says:Sep 4, 2011 10:50 AM </p>
<p>So…when does Clay Matthews start HIS suspension for HGH use? Oh, thats right…the hypocrisy of the NFL rears its ugly head again!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>I suppose we might wait until Matthews actually uses HGH and there is proof of it. Last I checked, this is still America.</p>
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		<title>By: scarletmacaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[realitypolice -  No one except the players know for sure they took StarCaps, that&#039;s just what they claim.  All that&#039;s known for sure is that a banned diruretic was detected in their NFL drug tests.  They could have knowing taken the diruretic and then claimed &#039;StarCaps!&#039; after finding out the NFL made a mistake by not listing it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>realitypolice &#8211;  No one except the players know for sure they took StarCaps, that&#8217;s just what they claim.  All that&#8217;s known for sure is that a banned diruretic was detected in their NFL drug tests.  They could have knowing taken the diruretic and then claimed &#8216;StarCaps!&#8217; after finding out the NFL made a mistake by not listing it.</p>
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		<title>By: indianheadmeatpackingcompany</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indianheadmeatpackingcompany]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bears46 says: 
Sep 4, 2011 10:56 AM 
All the fine money goes to charity so stop whining, and think about who that money may help…Big babies.

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It&#039;s great that it goes to charity, but if you are the person they are taking money from forcefully and you believe they are doing it for the wrong reason, you would be upset too.  It is possible to be mad that they are taking you money but still have the &quot;at least it goes to charity&quot; attitude.  It is possible that not all the players involved with this punishment knew what they were taking.  It&#039;s also possible that they all knew.  Unless somebody is going to admit they knowingly took, there is no way to prove one way or the other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bears46 says:<br />
Sep 4, 2011 10:56 AM<br />
All the fine money goes to charity so stop whining, and think about who that money may help…Big babies.</p>
<p> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that it goes to charity, but if you are the person they are taking money from forcefully and you believe they are doing it for the wrong reason, you would be upset too.  It is possible to be mad that they are taking you money but still have the &#8220;at least it goes to charity&#8221; attitude.  It is possible that not all the players involved with this punishment knew what they were taking.  It&#8217;s also possible that they all knew.  Unless somebody is going to admit they knowingly took, there is no way to prove one way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: textexington</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Packers &gt; Vikings]]></description>
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		<title>By: indianheadmeatpackingcompany</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s fine to suspend and fine guys for failing the drug test.  The only issue with this is that it was not listed on the label so there is no way a person can be expected to know that it was in the supplement they were taking.  If it&#039;s not listed on the ingredients, how could you possibly know?  Starcaps wasn&#039;t on the NFL&#039;s list of banned substances either.  There is NO WAY a person other than the guys who took the supplement could ever prove that the players knowingly took the banned substance.  Starcaps needed to be added to list when this came about along with a stern warning.  Seems only fair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fine to suspend and fine guys for failing the drug test.  The only issue with this is that it was not listed on the label so there is no way a person can be expected to know that it was in the supplement they were taking.  If it&#8217;s not listed on the ingredients, how could you possibly know?  Starcaps wasn&#8217;t on the NFL&#8217;s list of banned substances either.  There is NO WAY a person other than the guys who took the supplement could ever prove that the players knowingly took the banned substance.  Starcaps needed to be added to list when this came about along with a stern warning.  Seems only fair.</p>
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		<title>By: misfit74</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;That said, Pat Williams potentially won big.  If his career is over, he’ll never have to pay a dime to the NFL.&quot;

That&#039;s it! ONLY do steroids when you are about to retire!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That said, Pat Williams potentially won big.  If his career is over, he’ll never have to pay a dime to the NFL.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it! ONLY do steroids when you are about to retire!</p>
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		<title>By: bears46</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bears46]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the fine money goes to charity so stop whining, and think about who that money may help...Big babies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the fine money goes to charity so stop whining, and think about who that money may help&#8230;Big babies.</p>
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		<title>By: voiceofrealism</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[voiceofrealism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone knows that if you take a supplement and don&#039;t know what&#039;s in it, you take the risk of there being a banned substance in it. The players could have asked the NFL if the product was safe or not and saved themselves the wasted fight and money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows that if you take a supplement and don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s in it, you take the risk of there being a banned substance in it. The players could have asked the NFL if the product was safe or not and saved themselves the wasted fight and money.</p>
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