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		<title>By: lostwou</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1261415</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont understand how not one person on here gets the main reason Palmer wants out. It doesn&#039;t have as much to do with losing as it does how the redneck idiot fans treated him. Throwing garbage on his lawn, verbaling attacking his wife anytime she tried to go somewhere. He did it mainly to protect his wife and family. Frankly I dont blame him. I wouldnt want to play for fans like that either nor would I want to subject my family to that kind of abuse. I&#039;m a Bengals fan and live here. And I am ashamed of these fans. Its a game. Its sick and disturbing the way some fans take it so seriously that they would attack his wife? are you serious?  Let me ask you this? what would you do? Yeah he could ship his family to california. But wud you want to be away from your family to play for a bunch of jerk fans? I wouldn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont understand how not one person on here gets the main reason Palmer wants out. It doesn&#8217;t have as much to do with losing as it does how the redneck idiot fans treated him. Throwing garbage on his lawn, verbaling attacking his wife anytime she tried to go somewhere. He did it mainly to protect his wife and family. Frankly I dont blame him. I wouldnt want to play for fans like that either nor would I want to subject my family to that kind of abuse. I&#8217;m a Bengals fan and live here. And I am ashamed of these fans. Its a game. Its sick and disturbing the way some fans take it so seriously that they would attack his wife? are you serious?  Let me ask you this? what would you do? Yeah he could ship his family to california. But wud you want to be away from your family to play for a bunch of jerk fans? I wouldn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: londonbengal</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1254251</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[londonbengal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ &#039;rockieschef&#039; says.....

&#039;it&#039;s great to be a packers fan&#039;........


Sure it is......NOW....

But it wasn&#039;t so much fun being a Packers fan back in the 80&#039;s was it, when the Packers sucked and it was the Bengals going to the Superbowl....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ &#8216;rockieschef&#8217; says&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8216;it&#8217;s great to be a packers fan&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Sure it is&#8230;&#8230;NOW&#8230;.</p>
<p>But it wasn&#8217;t so much fun being a Packers fan back in the 80&#8242;s was it, when the Packers sucked and it was the Bengals going to the Superbowl&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: londonbengal</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1254249</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[londonbengal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CORRECTION........

The &#039;Bengals&#039; did not decide that Carson was going to retire.  

Mike Brown did. Not the same thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CORRECTION&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>The &#8216;Bengals&#8217; did not decide that Carson was going to retire.  </p>
<p>Mike Brown did. Not the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1251751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 17:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Am I blue ...
Am I blue ...
Ain&#039;t these tears in these eyes tellin&#039; you ...
How can you ask me, &#039;Am I blue?&#039; ...
Why, wouldn&#039;t you be, too?&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Am I blue &#8230;<br />
Am I blue &#8230;<br />
Ain&#8217;t these tears in these eyes tellin&#8217; you &#8230;<br />
How can you ask me, &#8216;Am I blue?&#8217; &#8230;<br />
Why, wouldn&#8217;t you be, too?</em></p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1251740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 17:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mojosmagic says: 

The Bengals / Brown are the laughing stock of pro sports. Feel bad for their fans who just shouldn’t show up for games.
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Now, wait a minute ...

I&#039;d say the Bengals have a dysfunctional owner ... but then again, the man makes a heckuva lot of money without investing anywhere near what some other owners invest. And this team won its division just two years ago playing against the defending Super Bowl champion and the defending runner up in the AFC Championship.

The Browns are a team on the rise who last year beat the defending Super Bowl champion and could well surprise everyone this year by snagging a Wildcard. This is a storied franchise with eight league championships. My Steelers didn&#039;t win a single playoff game in the first 40 years of its existence. Fortunately, the fans didn&#039;t give up on them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mojosmagic says: </p>
<p>The Bengals / Brown are the laughing stock of pro sports. Feel bad for their fans who just shouldn’t show up for games.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Now, wait a minute &#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say the Bengals have a dysfunctional owner &#8230; but then again, the man makes a heckuva lot of money without investing anywhere near what some other owners invest. And this team won its division just two years ago playing against the defending Super Bowl champion and the defending runner up in the AFC Championship.</p>
<p>The Browns are a team on the rise who last year beat the defending Super Bowl champion and could well surprise everyone this year by snagging a Wildcard. This is a storied franchise with eight league championships. My Steelers didn&#8217;t win a single playoff game in the first 40 years of its existence. Fortunately, the fans didn&#8217;t give up on them.</p>
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		<title>By: dreno322</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 17:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carson was supposed to be a leader on this team but showed his true (quitter) qualities and became a bigger distraction than Ocho and TO idioto&#039;s combined...Now that the last member of the side show is almost gone from Cincy, let&#039;s get serious about football! Yea, he threw for 3900+ but that&#039;s how it goes when your getting your ass kicked week in, week out. Retire bonehead! We&#039;ve moved on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carson was supposed to be a leader on this team but showed his true (quitter) qualities and became a bigger distraction than Ocho and TO idioto&#8217;s combined&#8230;Now that the last member of the side show is almost gone from Cincy, let&#8217;s get serious about football! Yea, he threw for 3900+ but that&#8217;s how it goes when your getting your ass kicked week in, week out. Retire bonehead! We&#8217;ve moved on!</p>
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		<title>By: beelicker</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 05:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt;&gt; brintfatre says: Redskins, Indy, Dallas, Giants, Miami, Jacksonville, Bills, all could benefit from having him as their starter&lt;&lt;&lt; 

Seems to me like dwindling supply of competent QBs + growing demand to fill the position with same = possible bidding war on the horizon?

Just because anybody says one thing (alleged clueless owner/GM Snidely Brownlash included) doesn&#039;t actually mean that&#039;s the be all &amp; end all for eternity. Poker features something called &quot;the bluff&quot;, and Harvard Lawyer &amp; master negotiator/contractual engineer Brown understands this just as well (if not better) than just about anyone. 

The alleged feeler to #9 a couple of weeks ago was to warn him of the either/or point for reporting and the steps Brown would then be forced to take as a demonstration of the leveraged hand he could throw down on the former QB in case he eventually called Brown&#039;s supposed &#039;bluff&#039; &amp; reported for $pite, after which it would no longer be any sort of bluff at all ... but rather a hot &amp; ready howitzer pointing straight at his bank account. 

I&#039;ve grown so very weary of the pointless kneejerk lemmmings constantly typing &quot;why hasn&#039;t stupid Brown traded him already?&quot; for the same 2012 draft pix that he&#039;ll still be able to get same as now &amp; which wouldn&#039;t do a thing for this year&#039;s edition in either case. 

Plus there was always the possibility that French maid Garcon Palmierre could have seen fit to grown a pair &amp; come to his senses (all except wifey the pants wearer would never sign off on that) in time to actually still be an effective part of the 2011 Bengals?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; brintfatre says: Redskins, Indy, Dallas, Giants, Miami, Jacksonville, Bills, all could benefit from having him as their starter&lt;&lt;&lt; </p>
<p>Seems to me like dwindling supply of competent QBs + growing demand to fill the position with same = possible bidding war on the horizon?</p>
<p>Just because anybody says one thing (alleged clueless owner/GM Snidely Brownlash included) doesn&#039;t actually mean that&#039;s the be all &amp; end all for eternity. Poker features something called &quot;the bluff&quot;, and Harvard Lawyer &amp; master negotiator/contractual engineer Brown understands this just as well (if not better) than just about anyone. </p>
<p>The alleged feeler to #9 a couple of weeks ago was to warn him of the either/or point for reporting and the steps Brown would then be forced to take as a demonstration of the leveraged hand he could throw down on the former QB in case he eventually called Brown&#039;s supposed &#039;bluff&#039; &amp; reported for $pite, after which it would no longer be any sort of bluff at all &#8230; but rather a hot &amp; ready howitzer pointing straight at his bank account. </p>
<p>I&#039;ve grown so very weary of the pointless kneejerk lemmmings constantly typing &quot;why hasn&#039;t stupid Brown traded him already?&quot; for the same 2012 draft pix that he&#039;ll still be able to get same as now &amp; which wouldn&#039;t do a thing for this year&#039;s edition in either case. </p>
<p>Plus there was always the possibility that French maid Garcon Palmierre could have seen fit to grown a pair &amp; come to his senses (all except wifey the pants wearer would never sign off on that) in time to actually still be an effective part of the 2011 Bengals?</p>
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		<title>By: b412</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 05:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carson is acting like he wasn&#039;t a big part of the problem in Cincy.  He has gotten everything he wanted over the years and then decides to act like a 4-12 season doesn&#039;t have anything to do with his poor play.  All this nonsense about the Bengals being the worst franchise in pro sport is baloney.  Who cares what the dopes at ESPN think?  If you are a fan, you are a fan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carson is acting like he wasn&#8217;t a big part of the problem in Cincy.  He has gotten everything he wanted over the years and then decides to act like a 4-12 season doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with his poor play.  All this nonsense about the Bengals being the worst franchise in pro sport is baloney.  Who cares what the dopes at ESPN think?  If you are a fan, you are a fan.</p>
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		<title>By: pftequalsgreatjournalism</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 05:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[buffordtjustice says:Sep 8, 2011 6:58 PM 

Peyton is not done. I have a good feeling he will be back by week 15 or 16.

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Is that feeling based on the recent surgery that you performed on him or some psychic ability that you possess...

Idiot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buffordtjustice says:Sep 8, 2011 6:58 PM </p>
<p>Peyton is not done. I have a good feeling he will be back by week 15 or 16.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Is that feeling based on the recent surgery that you performed on him or some psychic ability that you possess&#8230;</p>
<p>Idiot</p>
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		<title>By: rozz513</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 04:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Broncofanatic7 says:
Sep 8, 2011 6:58 PM
Why can’t he just pull a Favre? Retire… and then come back and play for another team that needs him. Makes sense to me!

Because if a player retires in the middle of a contract he still has to honor the contract if he comes back. The contract is essentially put on &quot;hold.&quot; Favre retired at the end of his contracts. So, if Carson doesn&#039;t get traded or cut he&#039;s stuck with the Bengals at least through 2014.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broncofanatic7 says:<br />
Sep 8, 2011 6:58 PM<br />
Why can’t he just pull a Favre? Retire… and then come back and play for another team that needs him. Makes sense to me!</p>
<p>Because if a player retires in the middle of a contract he still has to honor the contract if he comes back. The contract is essentially put on &#8220;hold.&#8221; Favre retired at the end of his contracts. So, if Carson doesn&#8217;t get traded or cut he&#8217;s stuck with the Bengals at least through 2014.</p>
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		<title>By: rockieschef</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rockieschef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 04:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s good to be a Packer fan,,,,,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s good to be a Packer fan,,,,,</p>
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		<title>By: golonger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[golonger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I was Palmer, I would show up and start doing stupid stuff like tripping over my own feet, throwing passes into the dirt, punting the ball on third down, etc.....just to piss Brown off LOL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was Palmer, I would show up and start doing stupid stuff like tripping over my own feet, throwing passes into the dirt, punting the ball on third down, etc&#8230;..just to piss Brown off LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: r66x</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Brown will eventually trade him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Brown will eventually trade him.</p>
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		<title>By: gguffey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gguffey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trade him to the Colts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trade him to the Colts.</p>
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		<title>By: mddare007</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if Lewis makes him try to pass a rigorous conditioning test, but keeps failing him.  Is he obliged to pass it before he is put on the roster?  Could he be put on the PUP list out of spite?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if Lewis makes him try to pass a rigorous conditioning test, but keeps failing him.  Is he obliged to pass it before he is put on the roster?  Could he be put on the PUP list out of spite?</p>
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		<title>By: db3300</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why can’t he just pull a Favre? Retire… and then come back and play for another team that needs him. Makes sense to me!&quot;

If that&#039;s all any player had to do to get out of a bad situation, they would all be doing it. Palmer has 3 more years on his contract.  He could be out of the game for a decade but those 3 years still belong to the Bengals when he comes back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why can’t he just pull a Favre? Retire… and then come back and play for another team that needs him. Makes sense to me!&#8221;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s all any player had to do to get out of a bad situation, they would all be doing it. Palmer has 3 more years on his contract.  He could be out of the game for a decade but those 3 years still belong to the Bengals when he comes back.</p>
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		<title>By: lando1383</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lando1383]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 01:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[**Not actually condoning &quot;blowing his brains out&quot;, but he really should off himself for everyone&#039;s good]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**Not actually condoning &#8220;blowing his brains out&#8221;, but he really should off himself for everyone&#8217;s good</p>
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		<title>By: lando1383</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lando1383]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 01:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure how Mike Brown lives with himself.  Besides all the money, he can&#039;t be proud of anything he&#039;s done.  Inheriting a team, fleecing a county and continually putting out a dogsh*t team.  Any decent team we had was in spite of him.  Most in Cincy would blow his brains out if given impunity to save some face on our laughingstock image.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how Mike Brown lives with himself.  Besides all the money, he can&#8217;t be proud of anything he&#8217;s done.  Inheriting a team, fleecing a county and continually putting out a dogsh*t team.  Any decent team we had was in spite of him.  Most in Cincy would blow his brains out if given impunity to save some face on our laughingstock image.</p>
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		<title>By: brintfatre</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 01:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Redskins, Indy, Dallas, Giants, Miami, Jacksonville, Bills, all could benefit from having him as their starter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redskins, Indy, Dallas, Giants, Miami, Jacksonville, Bills, all could benefit from having him as their starter.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelEdits</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MichaelEdits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 01:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;d be a great Indianapolis Colt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;d be a great Indianapolis Colt.</p>
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		<title>By: beecee71</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250340</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 01:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i was going to work out today too, then I decided not to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was going to work out today too, then I decided not to.</p>
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		<title>By: cbass59</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250329</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tory Polamalu hopes he returns. It&#039;s almost a guaranteed pick 6 for him. Palmer is another USC QB bust and a crybaby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tory Polamalu hopes he returns. It&#8217;s almost a guaranteed pick 6 for him. Palmer is another USC QB bust and a crybaby.</p>
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		<title>By: thefiesty1</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250327</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brown will NEVER trade him, because he&#039;s an idiot.  He could sure help the Colts out right now because Collins is not the answer for Peyton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brown will NEVER trade him, because he&#8217;s an idiot.  He could sure help the Colts out right now because Collins is not the answer for Peyton.</p>
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		<title>By: steelturf76</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250317</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Broncofanatic7:

Unless the Bengals grant him his release he will still be property of the Bengals if he pulled a &quot;Favre.&quot;  As long as the Bengals don&#039;t release him and he retires then tries to come out of retirement the only way he can play for another team is if he is released.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Broncofanatic7:</p>
<p>Unless the Bengals grant him his release he will still be property of the Bengals if he pulled a &#8220;Favre.&#8221;  As long as the Bengals don&#8217;t release him and he retires then tries to come out of retirement the only way he can play for another team is if he is released.</p>
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		<title>By: voyager6</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250313</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) The only way Palmer gets back into Paul Brown Stadium is if he buys a ticket!  Brown has likely asked security to block him getting to the field/locker room.

2) Remember the Mike Brown/Sam Wyche &quot;He Fired me!&quot;, &quot;No he quit&quot; controversy. In that one, Sam apparently made an ultimatum to quit if Mike didn&#039;t do something and Mike accepted it as a resignation. Mike never paid Sam&#039;s last two years on his contract. The Carson ultimatum will be handled the same way.

Carson said to Mike that he&#039;d retire if he wasn&#039;t traded. Mike won&#039;t trade him, so he will refuse to pay Carson nor let him near the field. (See Steve McNair lockout that took a court order to let him practice). In this case, Brown has a case as Carson&#039;s agent went public and Carson never publically denounced it. So it is a reasonable assumption that Carson is retired and the club made changes based on that assumption.

3) IF Carson came back, expect Brown to sue him for damages and breach of contract. Carson&#039;s refusal to play has cost the team a draft pick, a free agent QB pickup (Gradkowski), and probably at least 15,000 season tickets and  the damage can probably be multiplied/accounted for the remaining years of his contract. That $50 million nest egg he has saved could go up in smoke in court and Brown would rightfully, in my opinion, be owed the damages for what Carson has done to the team.

4) Carson can&#039;t simply retire and then unretire a&#039;la Favre. It requires two things. First, after filing retirement paperwork, the team owning the contract must file with the NFL to relinquish it.  Second, the comissioner must approve the reinstatement. Do you think Brown will voluntairily give up Carson&#039;s contract? Do you think the Commissioner would approve Carson&#039;s re-entrance into the NFL without Brown&#039;s concurrence? NO!

Finally, Carson can&#039;t wait three years until his contract expires. If he doesn&#039;t show up before the sixth game each year, he doesn&#039;t get credit for a year against the contract. Thus a three year hold out will result in him still owing Brown three years of service on the contract.

Carson received bad advice, whether it be from his agent or wife (wanting out of Cincinnati). Best he can do is be a commentator for one of the networks and use that as a bully pulpit to criticize Brown and the Bengals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) The only way Palmer gets back into Paul Brown Stadium is if he buys a ticket!  Brown has likely asked security to block him getting to the field/locker room.</p>
<p>2) Remember the Mike Brown/Sam Wyche &#8220;He Fired me!&#8221;, &#8220;No he quit&#8221; controversy. In that one, Sam apparently made an ultimatum to quit if Mike didn&#8217;t do something and Mike accepted it as a resignation. Mike never paid Sam&#8217;s last two years on his contract. The Carson ultimatum will be handled the same way.</p>
<p>Carson said to Mike that he&#8217;d retire if he wasn&#8217;t traded. Mike won&#8217;t trade him, so he will refuse to pay Carson nor let him near the field. (See Steve McNair lockout that took a court order to let him practice). In this case, Brown has a case as Carson&#8217;s agent went public and Carson never publically denounced it. So it is a reasonable assumption that Carson is retired and the club made changes based on that assumption.</p>
<p>3) IF Carson came back, expect Brown to sue him for damages and breach of contract. Carson&#8217;s refusal to play has cost the team a draft pick, a free agent QB pickup (Gradkowski), and probably at least 15,000 season tickets and  the damage can probably be multiplied/accounted for the remaining years of his contract. That $50 million nest egg he has saved could go up in smoke in court and Brown would rightfully, in my opinion, be owed the damages for what Carson has done to the team.</p>
<p>4) Carson can&#8217;t simply retire and then unretire a&#8217;la Favre. It requires two things. First, after filing retirement paperwork, the team owning the contract must file with the NFL to relinquish it.  Second, the comissioner must approve the reinstatement. Do you think Brown will voluntairily give up Carson&#8217;s contract? Do you think the Commissioner would approve Carson&#8217;s re-entrance into the NFL without Brown&#8217;s concurrence? NO!</p>
<p>Finally, Carson can&#8217;t wait three years until his contract expires. If he doesn&#8217;t show up before the sixth game each year, he doesn&#8217;t get credit for a year against the contract. Thus a three year hold out will result in him still owing Brown three years of service on the contract.</p>
<p>Carson received bad advice, whether it be from his agent or wife (wanting out of Cincinnati). Best he can do is be a commentator for one of the networks and use that as a bully pulpit to criticize Brown and the Bengals.</p>
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		<title>By: pthompson1187</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250310</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The jaguars will be starting Luke mccown. Enough said. Bring in palmer til gabbert is ready]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The jaguars will be starting Luke mccown. Enough said. Bring in palmer til gabbert is ready</p>
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		<title>By: blackheld</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250309</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blackheld]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, showing up would absolutely be the best way to force a trade or a release.  Aside from the money thing, every day he&#039;s there, and Dalton looks horrid in practice, it has to apply pressure to the whole organization.

Or Dalton could look great in practice, and Mike Brown would be reminded of all that money he&#039;s wasting on a QB they don&#039;t need.

Win-win.

Of course, this assumes Carson doesn&#039;t look good enough, himself, to make a case for starting.  He just wants to look good enough to be a competent backup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, showing up would absolutely be the best way to force a trade or a release.  Aside from the money thing, every day he&#8217;s there, and Dalton looks horrid in practice, it has to apply pressure to the whole organization.</p>
<p>Or Dalton could look great in practice, and Mike Brown would be reminded of all that money he&#8217;s wasting on a QB they don&#8217;t need.</p>
<p>Win-win.</p>
<p>Of course, this assumes Carson doesn&#8217;t look good enough, himself, to make a case for starting.  He just wants to look good enough to be a competent backup.</p>
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		<title>By: stevincinci</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stevincinci]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is officially known in Cincinnati as &quot;Idiot #9&quot;. Please use his new name when referring to him. I heard he has submitted the forms to change his name legally in a Miami courtroom referred to him by Chad Ochojohnson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is officially known in Cincinnati as &#8220;Idiot #9&#8243;. Please use his new name when referring to him. I heard he has submitted the forms to change his name legally in a Miami courtroom referred to him by Chad Ochojohnson.</p>
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		<title>By: mhillman71</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250299</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mhillman71]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By week 2 or 3 Palmer will be on a team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By week 2 or 3 Palmer will be on a team.</p>
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		<title>By: silkyjohnson937</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/carson-palmer-is-working-out/#comment-1250296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silkyjohnson937]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 00:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing comes to mind when I think of  this situation: mike brown is an idiot.who pays that much money for a pack of chicken flavored ramen noodles?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing comes to mind when I think of  this situation: mike brown is an idiot.who pays that much money for a pack of chicken flavored ramen noodles?</p>
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